WildZenge Presents: Horizon Zero DaWWn

[Melchizedek]

Advertisement - Members don't see this ad

@Melchizedek Where are you leaning Sporty today?

Village lean to be reassessed later because it’s a pure tone read based on the specific way she self-Prez’d and there was a comment she made when someone asked her to justify her own tone read

 

[Aprilthearab]

Lol I found genny surprisingly supportive at end game that one game where I got misyeeted for the win.

So you're more inclined to think genny would white knight? Or?

 

[WildZoo]

Pretty sure at least once in some bastard or semi-bastard game a villager ability/action led to a wolf conversion.

Yeah. In The Little Mermaid I was a villager, and my ability was to resurrect one player...who automatically came back as a wolf 😢

 

[Melchizedek]

@Melchizedek Where are you leaning Sporty today?

What is your read on Cubs and VSLMP

 

[Animal Midwife]

Village lean to be reassessed later because it’s a pure tone read based on the specific way she self-Prez’d and there was a comment she made when someone asked her to justify her own tone read

I thought you were still wolfreading her yesterday after you witnessed this though.

Did any other reads change?

 

[Aprilthearab]

I feel like TME is here but not many posts have been memorable which concerns me

 

[Animal Midwife]

What is your read on Cubs and VSLMP

Slight wolfread on cubs. Who's the second person?

 

[Crayola227]

This feels insincere

And this also kind of does, but not as heavily.

Potentially moving SP less wolfy because except for when she posts about me I find myself agreeing with her. If she really is village I hope she can move off the Cray tunnel.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

But do we really? Genny is really good at WIFOM and not being overly predictable.

I mean that's fair, but then you get into this cycle where you just have no clue so you have to flip her just to find out. I'm not saying we won't get there at some future point in the game, but I think it's better to stay away from that until we have to.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

I feel like TME is here but not many posts have been memorable which concerns me

this feels weirdly retaliatory for me asking you a few questions

 

[Crayola227]

How nice of you to make a broad assumption of my play this game when I've been gone for 36-some odd hours and have most certainly been making reads of more than just you.

Beyond tunnel, I should say wolf playbook move of "especially antagonize someone without let up."

I agree tunnel implies you aren't wolf reading elsrwhere.

 

[cubsrule4e]

What is your read on Cubs and VSLMP

She’s voting me.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I feel like TME is here but not many posts have been memorable which concerns me

I feel the opposite. We were some of the only ones talking during the silence.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I mean that's fair, but then you get into this cycle where you just have no clue so you have to flip her just to find out. I'm not saying we won't get there at some future point in the game, but I think it's better to stay away from that until we have to.

Remind me how you're reading Genny and Bob?

 

[Aprilthearab]

this feels weirdly retaliatory for me asking you a few questions

Wait, you asked me questions? Did I miss them?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Oh hey @Ms Procrastinator I see you're catching up, any reads?

I still have some of the same reads as yesterday. Can we use another name for sporty/ shorty cause I feel like they're a little too close? Bob made a comment and I don't know if he mixed up sporty with shorty or he's just plain confused. The was nothing coincidental or weird about the question shorty asked sporty. It was one of the concerns that sporty (and a few other people on the thread) brought up so shorty asked her how she felt about it later.

Now I'm grouping Sporty and Bob together in a pack. He seemed to agree with sporty that shorty's question was weirdly coincidental, but then votes sporty anyway

 

[Crayola227]

No, that's whiteknighting you're describing.

Buddying isn't an official WW term so it could mean any affiliation by default.

I have made buddying an official term. I know it gets discussed on one of the wikis, I'll find it.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I agree with Shorty. Sounded weird and very coincidental bc coincidence or...???

@BobLoblaw78 did you mean sporty or shorty?

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

Wait, you asked me questions? Did I miss them?

okay, one question and a statement, but you replied so you didn't miss them

I think he's implying that we're wrong about genny and you're taking advantage of that to join in on a misyeet, not necessarily that you're bussing genny

at least that's my concern

is there a reason you felt your third vote on her would make something more exciting happen after my vote with pretty much the exact same reasoning?

 

[Crayola227]

This feels overall "meh" which is basically the type of reads I give when I'm wolfing. Afraid of laying down anything definitive in case in condemns me later. Doesn't mean April wolfs the same but it's not encouraging for my read on her this game.

Why genny and not April? You had talked about wolf reading april for several posts before this.

Lol I can't decide if I agree with SP or we have opposite reads

 

[Animal Midwife]

I still have some of the same reads as yesterday. Can we use another name for sporty/ shorty cause I feel like they're a little too close? Bob made a comment and I don't know if he mixed up sporty with shorty or he's just plain confused. The was nothing coincidental or weird about the question shorty asked sporty. It was one of the concerns that sporty (and a few other people on the thread) brought up so shorty asked her how she felt about it later.

Now I'm grouping Sporty and Bob together in a pack. He seemed to agree with sporty that shorty's question was weirdly coincidental, but then votes sporty anyway

No, we can just use proper capitalization.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

I still have some of the same reads as yesterday. Can we use another name for sporty/ shorty cause I feel like they're a little too close? Bob made a comment and I don't know if he mixed up sporty with shorty or he's just plain confused. The was nothing coincidental or weird about the question shorty asked sporty. It was one of the concerns that sporty (and a few other people on the thread) brought up so shorty asked her how she felt about it later.

Now I'm grouping Sporty and Bob together in a pack. He seemed to agree with sporty that shorty's question was weirdly coincidental, but then votes sporty anyway

this hurt my head to read

SP is apparently bad too though because you're MsP

 

[Melchizedek]

She’s voting me.

I haven’t read from today anything unless I was quoted or tagged. Good to know. I’m almost home.

 

[supershorty]

I still have some of the same reads as yesterday. Can we use another name for sporty/ shorty cause I feel like they're a little too close? Bob made a comment and I don't know if he mixed up sporty with shorty or he's just plain confused. The was nothing coincidental or weird about the question shorty asked sporty. It was one of the concerns that sporty (and a few other people on the thread) brought up so shorty asked her how she felt about it later.

Now I'm grouping Sporty and Bob together in a pack. He seemed to agree with sporty that shorty's question was weirdly coincidental, but then votes sporty anyway

Have you gotten to Bob's claim yet? If so, how do you feel about it?

 

[Aprilthearab]

okay, one question and a statement, but you replied so you didn't miss them

Oh, I didn't see that as pressure on me, just conversation. I didn't have that on my mind when I made that most recent post

 

[Dinashadow]

When the word "steal" is used, that's the description I'm imagining. If a word like "copy" was used then I'd think no, but I'm just assuming these things

steal sounds more wolfy, copy sounds more villagey, but I've gotten burned on assigning affiliation to roles before

 

[Aprilthearab]

Has anyone village read genny, or is basically everyone sussing her to some degree?

 

[supershorty]

Has anyone village read genny, or is basically everyone sussing her to some degree?

Why is neutral reading her not an option here?

 

[Crayola227]

I'm referencing what AM said



I wasn't sure what she meant by "renders the ability unusable"

I assume this is how ability thief works. Or else wouldn't it just be ability mimic?

I'm also assuming a thief gets to use the ability stolen at least once.

 

[Aprilthearab]

steal sounds more wolfy, copy sounds more villagey, but I've gotten burned on assigning affiliation to roles before

Yeah, I'm keeping that as NAI, but I'm more interested in the way he talks about how he intends to use it than what the actual ability might be if he's being truthful

 

[Aprilthearab]

Why is neutral reading her not an option here?

It is. I just didn't say it

 

[supershorty]

Slight wolfread on cubs. Who's the second person?

I think it's pleasy.

 

[Dinashadow]

This is weird. The first part.

Yeah I agree with this. I haven't really had time to assess TME. I liked her analysis post from the end of day voting from last cycle, but also haven't really seen any reads from her, but her voting genny made me pause because I'm sussing genny as well.

 

[Crayola227]

I find it very hard to not get caught up in a back and forth with AM.

Why is it that I catch flak for it when she is also just as involved with keeping it going???

I hear ya man.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

Yeah I agree with this. I haven't really had time to assess TME. I liked her analysis post from the end of day voting from last cycle, but also haven't really seen any reads from her, but her voting genny made me pause because I'm sussing genny as well.

I'm not sure why me voting genny is suddenly surprising when I voted for her yesterday

she hasn't posted all that much since then

 

[Crayola227]

I think that was pippy in Madagascar.

I thought about doing that for laughs!!! But I’m not wolf and would feel guilty for misleading village…when I’m not wolf. Btw. I’m not wolf

Nah, it was you or Bread. Not sure which.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Remind me how you're reading Genny and Bob?

bob is wolfy to me because i really don't understand his pushes of various people
and genny i don't understand a lot of the sus around her, I'm reading her neutral rn but that's mostly bc shes been very absent and i don't feel like i have enough to go off of yet

 

[Dinashadow]

You have a good history of reading cubs right?

idk ask zenge lolol

But for real I've been correct on my read on him in a few games. I had some sus about him in MHA, but not enough to vote for him. I'd probably trust sporty's read of him more than I'd trust mine, but she seems to be village leaning him too?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Let me put it out there so I can at least possibly be a NK instead of misyeet. I don’t see anything beneficial in waiting (to see wolf fan the flames). If I was wolf I would see no reason to push my misyeet further bc it has plenty of momentum on its own.

I have the ability to steal someone else’s ability and use it the following night. Pretty cool in the fact I get an ability, but can also possibly surmise that the person is village if it is an obvious village ability. So steal ability and seer-lite.

I picked AM first night. Obv blocked. I picked shorty for tonight (I originally picked MsP but changed). I picked ppl I thought were more village than not bc I want to be able to steal. I assume if I pick wolf then I won’t get ability and won’t know for sure they are wolf (blocked or whatever reason). I figured if I picked villagelean and got village ability, it would mostly confirm them as village. I didn’t pick Dina or Mel (my two big village reads) bc I don’t think the info would add much (bc I would go from 90% sure to 92% sure).

So you would be able to use someone's ability and steal someone's ability during the same night? You can also light seer someone?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think it's pleasy.

Oh. Please is in my neutrals until I get a better grasp on the game. Her playstyle just seems wolfy to me by default.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Her playstyle just seems wolfy to me by default.

🙁

 

[Aprilthearab]

idk ask zenge lolol

But for real I've been correct on my read on him in a few games. I had some sus about him in MHA, but not enough to vote for him. I'd probably trust sporty's read of him more than I'd trust mine, but she seems to be village leaning him too?

I remembered someone saying they were considerably reliable at reading Cubs and I couldn't remember if it was you or someone else. Whoever it is, I'd like to know how they're reading cubs because I suck at it and I mostly need to rely on village reads to tell me what they think

 

[Melchizedek]

@Aprilthearab you owe me an analysis? Can you quote it for me so I can find it

 

[cubsrule4e]

I wish genny would have come back to give something. At this point I may just have to go back to my gut and vote there.

 

[Crayola227]

Excuse you? Go look at your own posting history please

This is the kind of hypocrisy that isn't that useful for distinguishing between wolf and villager.

 

[supershorty]

I think it's pleasy.

@SportPonies, why did you dislike this?

 

[Aprilthearab]

@Aprilthearab you owe me an analysis? Can you quote it for me so I can find it

Yeah, I do, I just didn't get to it today between classes and horse things. I'll get to it in an hourish assuming people don't waffle onto me

 

[cubsrule4e]

I remembered someone saying they were considerably reliable at reading Cubs and I couldn't remember if it was you or someone else. Whoever it is, I'd like to know how they're reading cubs because I suck at it and I mostly need to rely on village reads to tell me what they think

It was SP, and she posted some quotes saying I was village sounding.

 

[Crayola227]

If I was a wolf that saw Genny was gaining votes and knew other people were likely to join in, why would I put my vote there? I'd just let the ship sink on its own

Some wolves appreciate the opportunity. Pretty NAI unless you know a certain player has a preference for these things when they wolf

 

[Aprilthearab]

This is the kind of hypocrisy that isn't that useful for distinguishing between wolf and villager.

I'm not wolf reading mel