WildZenge Presents: Horizon Zero DaWWn

[TelemarketingEnigma]

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I wish genny would have come back to give something. At this point I may just have to go back to my gut and vote there.

If she doesn't come back she's getting modkilled anyway cause she's only at 7 posts this cycle

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Have you gotten to Bob's claim yet? If so, how do you feel about it?

It seems super disadvantageous to village. He steals village abilities which means they can't use it and he wouldn't be able to tell if he got "blocked" or the person he chose was a wolf.

 

[SportPonies]

@SportPonies, why did you dislike this?

Oh I misread context and thought you were calling her wolfy

 

[cubsrule4e]

###vote april###

 

[Aprilthearab]

If she doesn't come back she's getting modkilled anyway cause she's only at 7 posts this cycle

This doesn't make me feel great but waffles aren't likely to help us catch a wolf

 

[Dinashadow]

I'm not sure why me voting genny is suddenly surprising when I voted for her yesterday

she hasn't posted all that much since then

I'm not surprised you're voting for genny, when I said "pause" I meant I paused looking deeper into my read on you because you're voting for someone I'm suspicious of. Sorry that was confusing wording on my part.

But I don't feel like you've mentioned any other wolf reads besides genny even when I asked you for them yesterday. I agree with cray that the first part of what you said was weird because it's hedgey - saying you're uncomfortable with the genny discussion, but following it up with saying you're keeping your vote there.

 

[supershorty]

If she doesn't come back she's getting modkilled anyway cause she's only at 7 posts this cycle

Well, she'd get a warning. Modkill is after second infraction.

 

[Dinashadow]

###vote april###

Didn't you say you were going back to genny??

 

[supershorty]

Just discovered the Threadloom search is working again, in case anyone else prefers that one over Xenforo.

 

[Animal Midwife]

If she doesn't come back she's getting modkilled anyway cause she's only at 7 posts this cycle

It needs to happen twice in a row.

 

[Crayola227]

Pretty sure at least once in some bastard or semi-bastard game a villager ability/action led to a wolf conversion.

Hey, to be fair, I don't really think it's bastard. I love games that do all they can to push people's assumptions about WW convention. But if we use the MU definition that SDN's conversions are bastard, which I will adopt because it tickles me and it is bastardly difficult to deal with even if not bastard in my actual view, then yeah, having a villager ability lead to wolf conversion is... I'm lacking a word here but I'll find. Devilishly delightful, maybe?

Edit: this post was response to WZ's sad react on my post. I thought maybe she modded a game where a villager action led to a conversion. Which I would fully support.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Yeet Sporty I like my sporty/ bob theory. I'd also be okay with leaving bob to get "night killed".

 

[Dinashadow]

Just discovered the Threadloom search is working again, in case anyone else prefers that one over Xenforo.

Ooooo threadloom never used to work for me, but now it is

 

[cubsrule4e]

Didn't you say you were going back to genny??

Cray reinforced my ideas about April’s voting pattern from before. And if she’s getting mod killed anyway, why not go after another read?

 

[Crayola227]

So you're more inclined to think genny would white knight? Or?

I actually can't predict what genny would do. That's why I said she's unpredictable lol

 

[Dinashadow]

Yeet Sporty I like my sporty/ bob theory. I'd also be okay with leaving bob to get "night killed".

what's your sporty/bob theory again?

 

[Crayola227]

Yeah. In The Little Mermaid I was a villager, and my ability was to resurrect one player...who automatically came back as a wolf 😢

Lol who modded that? That was one of my first games.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Yeet Sporty I like my sporty/ bob theory. I'd also be okay with leaving bob to get "night killed".

Seeing as he's planning to use it on his village reads, if he's a villager, then I don't imagine the wolves are going to take too much concern unless Bob's village reads are wrong or he changes his mind and uses it on correct wolf reads

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

That Sporty and bob are in a pack.

 

[WildZoo]

Lol who modded that? That was one of my first games.

PBC I think?

 

[Zenge142]

Day 2 Confidence Is Quiet...You Are Not Vote Tally

sporty (2) - Bob, MsP
Bob (3) - Dina, pleasy, Cray
genny (3) - shorty, TME, April
cubs (1) - AM
shorty () -
Cray () -
April (3) - Mel, Sporty, Cubs

12/13 votes
Leading: A tie?
Missing: Genny
Deadline: 10pm EST (~20 minutes)

 

[supershorty]

Yeet Sporty I like my sporty/ bob theory. I'd also be okay with leaving bob to get "night killed".

So you're wolf reading them, but also voting with Bob?

 

[WildZoo]

A tie?

Not if you look closely...

 

[WildZoo]

Zenge: tallying like a good mod
Dubz: ****posting

 

[Animal Midwife]

That Sporty and bob are in a pack.

Who else are you looking at?

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

If cubs is wolfing I'm impressed because he's doing a great job of being on my same thought process.

As far as reads go, I still don't feel that genny has contributed any wolfhunting of substance. But the closer we get to yeet close, the more concerned I get that she's just busy and wolves are happy to let us vote her off.

I'm concerned about a wolf between April and Dina, for basically the same reasons for both of them. Both of them did not look great to me in my vote analysis, and now they're both happily claiming they're suspicious of genny now that it looks like she might go down (though only april is voting there). Would be very surprised if they are both wolves but they're very echoey to me so its hard to tease apart

Bob is concerning me because he feels so different than previous games and a bit overly defensive. So i'd be okay with a lot of the possible wagons.

MsP is hard to read while so absent

Sporty Feels different to me than in the last game where she wolfed so I'm inclined to lean village, but I don't have any specific super villagey things she's done

other people are more neutral/i need to spend mroe time thinking about them

 

[Crayola227]

I think it's pleasy.

Lol why a dislike from SP? She's just explaining VSLMP is probably Vetschoolsletmeinplease

 

[Melchizedek]

Excuse you? Go look at your own posting history please

No need to excuse me. You still haven’t followed up with your analysis, haven’t asked me any questions (unless I just missed them). By engagement I mean your engagement with me.

I may not be on thread much, but I am making salient points. Points which I want you to evaluate so that I can see if you’re actually wolf hunting. Getting snippy with me just makes me flashback to wolf!sunshine and how she acted when I was pushing her

 

[Crayola227]

I remembered someone saying they were considerably reliable at reading Cubs and I couldn't remember if it was you or someone else. Whoever it is, I'd like to know how they're reading cubs because I suck at it and I mostly need to rely on village reads to tell me what they think

It was Sporty. Last game. When she wolfed lol.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm not wolf reading mel

But you implied he shouldn't wolf read you for something he himself is doing.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Seeing as he's planning to use it on his village reads, if he's a villager, then I don't imagine the wolves are going to take too much concern unless Bob's village reads are wrong or he changes his mind and uses it on correct wolf reads

His PR is literally no threat to wolves. If there is a blocker they would have to out themselves to confirm that they did in fact not block him. If the blocker is village then his PR's disadvantageous to village. If the blocker is a wolf then that complicates things. There could also be no blocker at all.

 

[TelemarketingEnigma]

Cray reinforced my ideas about April’s voting pattern from before. And if she’s getting mod killed anyway, why not go after another read?

I was incorrect, she'll just get mod-warned.

 

[Aprilthearab]

No need to excuse me. You still haven’t followed up with your analysis, haven’t asked me any questions (unless I just missed them). By engagement I mean your engagement with me.

I may not be on thread much, but I am making salient points. Points which I want you to evaluate so that I can see if you’re actually wolf hunting. Getting snippy with me just makes me flashback to wolf!sunshine and how she acted when I was pushing her

Oh, did you mean specifically interacting with you? I thought you meant activity overall.

There's less than 20 minutes until yeet close and I'd rather keep up with new posts than go do an ISO, so an analysis of you will have to wait.

 

[Crayola227]

It needs to happen twice in a row.

Really? It's spelled out like that in the intro post? I'll have to look

 

[Melchizedek]

Slight wolfread on cubs. Who's the second person?

Slight wolf read is enough for you to be voting for him?
Vetschoolsletmeinplease god you just had to make me type it out with my little sausage fingers didn’t you.

 

[supershorty]

Really? It's spelled out like that in the intro post? I'll have to look

3. Participation requirements are in place. You must vote and make at least 10 posts each day cycle. The first infraction will incur a warning, the second will result in modkill.

 

[Aprilthearab]

But you implied he shouldn't wolf read you for something he himself is doing.

Yes, and the note of his hypocrisy is separate from my read of him, unless you're talking about something else here

 

[Aprilthearab]

His PR is literally no threat to wolves. If there is a blocker they would have to out themselves to confirm that they did in fact not block him. If the blocker is village then his PR's disadvantageous to village. If the blocker is a wolf then that complicates things. There could also be no blocker at all.

If his PR is no threat to wolves, then why did you assume that he would get night killed?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Slight wolf read is enough for you to be voting for him?
Vetschoolsletmeinplease god you just had to make me type it out with my little sausage fingers didn’t you.

Yes. And I answered the second question in a prior post.

 

[WildZoo]

Boy am I starting to regret allowing for a warning though

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

So you're wolf reading them, but also voting with Bob?

Bob voting sporty doesn't mean sporty can't be a wolf too. It's been done thousands of time

 

[Dinashadow]

I'm concerned about a wolf between April and Dina, for basically the same reasons for both of them. Both of them did not look great to me in my vote analysis, and now they're both happily claiming they're suspicious of genny now that it looks like she might go down (though only april is voting there). Would be very surprised if they are both wolves but they're very echoey to me so its hard to tease apart

What? You're literally voting for genny how is it sus to you that other people also find her sus

I'm not even on her vote

 

[Animal Midwife]

Bob voting sporty doesn't mean sporty can't be a wolf too. It's been done thousands of time

This bussing plot is almost as bad as the shorty one.

 

[Melchizedek]

Oh. Please is in my neutrals until I get a better grasp on the game. Her playstyle just seems wolfy to me by default.

What things in her playstyle?

 

[Crayola227]

Doesn't say it has to be twice in a row.

 

[Dinashadow]

Also april and I get called out for echoing each other every game. It's nothing new

 

[Crayola227]

Yes, and the note of his hypocrisy is separate from my read of him, unless you're talking about something else here

I am taking something else. Will return to this point after deadline if reminded

 

[WildZoo]

Doesn't say it has to be twice in a row.

If this is referring to participation rules, correct. It does not have to be consecutive. "Warned" status does not go away once it is reached.

 

[Animal Midwife]

What things in her playstyle?

She hedges a lot.

 

[Crayola227]

What? You're literally voting for genny how is it sus to you that other people also find her sus

I'm not even on her vote

This might make more sense than it seems. Will let her answer first tho