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I don't trust anyone...but I trust my teammates more than I trust outsides because we've talked more. If eveyone just vouches for their own teammates, does that really get us anywhere?
Not really, and I think most of us feel like we can/should trust our teammates. I'm pretty sure that list was useless. And if 2 wolves are on a team, of COURSE they'll say they trust each other!
 
Not really, and I think most of us feel like we can/should trust our teammates. I'm pretty sure that list was useless. And if 2 wolves are on a team, of COURSE they'll say they trust each other!

Exactly! I mean, anyone and everyone can be lying. I'm as starting to dirstrust people in real life at this point! The trick is to catch a lie or notice a hypocricy. I haven't noted anything like that thus far. But sometimes it is hard to keep up and I feel I miss something.
 
Look, I'm not sure what else to say about the PM. I definitely don't get a drop down menu, but I'm on an iPad so I'm not sure if that affects things. I don't know what else I can say to defend myself. My reasons have been stated and I guess it's just a matter of you all deciding.

Something that occurred to me: what if it's tributes against named characters in the books? Peeta, Katniss, Haymitch, Rue, etc? Like, the "named" characters are actually trying to kill off the other tributes? Is that how the games worked in the book? That may be why PetPony volunteered her role as Katniss (because we as tributes would think she was "safe")? Just a thought.

I'm off to bed now!
 
Something that occurred to me: what if it's tributes against named characters in the books? Peeta, Katniss, Haymitch, Rue, etc? Like, the "named" characters are actually trying to kill off the other tributes? Is that how the games worked in the book? That may be why PetPony volunteered her role as Katniss (because we as tributes would think she was "safe")? Just a thought.

I'm off to bed now!
I did mention that at about noon today, but I don't think anyone noticed/cared. I suggested that there are only 3 wolves and that they are Cato, Clove and Glimmer as they are the only named 'Careers' in the book.
 
Look, I'm not sure what else to say about the PM. I definitely don't get a drop down menu, but I'm on an iPad so I'm not sure if that affects things. I don't know what else I can say to defend myself. My reasons have been stated and I guess it's just a matter of you all deciding.

Something that occurred to me: what if it's tributes against named characters in the books? Peeta, Katniss, Haymitch, Rue, etc? Like, the "named" characters are actually trying to kill off the other tributes? Is that how the games worked in the book? That may be why PetPony volunteered her role as Katniss (because we as tributes would think she was "safe")? Just a thought.

I'm off to bed now!

Well in the books the named tributes (Peeta, Katniss, Rue) were trying to kill the other tributes so they could win the game and go home to their family. But of the tributes in the book I would argue that those along with perhaps Tresh where the good tributes. Dyachei confirmed Peeta is a good guy. That would mean the rest of us would be evil.
 
For those who don't 100% trust that SOV, that redhead and I are tributes, any easy way to figure it out would be to have someone who can investigate (item, role, whatever) check into one of us.

The whole secret characters is annoying because we don't know what they could do like in the dog sanctuary. Where is bandierose has she posted today? Interesting that she didn't come on and defend herself all she would have had to say is "I'm Rue" and we would have changed our votes, or at least I would have. Oh well, guess we'll have to wait and see what happens tonight!
 
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Exactly! I'm still pissed that I am dead. Next game I mod, every wolf from this game will die first whether they are attacked or not. Mark my words!
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Did bandie share with anyone in her group what she could do as Rue? Or same with CFC as peeta or petpony as katniss (if that's true)?
 
Well in the books the named tributes (Peeta, Katniss, Rue) were trying to kill the other tributes so they could win the game and go home to their family. But of the tributes in the book I would argue that those along with perhaps Tresh where the good tributes. Dyachei confirmed Peeta is a good guy. That would mean the rest of us would be evil.

Maybe we're the bad guys and we're supposed to kill off the good guys to win?
 
Did bandie share with anyone in her group what she could do as Rue? Or same with CFC as peeta or petpony as katniss (if that's true)?

I don't see how we could have made such a huge mistake. Why did bandie not share more information, or defend herself, especially when she say the lynch vote was against her? I am so confused. My head hurts.
 
So there are obviously people keeping their character roles quiet, and apparently it doesn't really help them. 😳
 
So there are obviously people keeping their character roles quiet, and apparently it doesn't really help them. 😳

I also think character roles MUST have some sort of special ability, otherwise they wouldn't be character roles, they would be tributes. Since dyachei isn't giving clues on items usage, maybe they had to deduce they special skill relative to the character in the book!? All this runaround is making me dizzy 😏
 
To whoever had the survival pack tonight could you try to use the leaves to save the three silenced players. In the books the leaves in the survival pack could be chewed up and applied to trackerjacket stings to remove the venom.
 
Ok. I have looked back through the thread, just a quick overlook

This is what I have found to be suspicious...

-Packen (The deal with the role not matching what other people who have had the role said it could do seems a little awkward to me)

-Pet Pony (Suddenly claiming to be Katniss right before she is about to be lynched could have been a last ditch attempt, but then there is the possibility that she could be Katniss, hopefully those trackerjackers just silence for one day/night :xf:)

-thatredhead (The thing with the PM's seems weird, but what seems even more weird is the constant stating that there is a knife as a weapon which I don't think there actually is). I could be way off on this and I really hate to metion this since she was cleared by Lissa but I don't know if it is possible that a wolf was able to feed Lissa this info or if a wolf was able to avoid investigation. I also hate to mention this because I was on the cleared by Lissa list and if she were to come back as a wolf that puts a target on the rest of us on that list...:scared: But, I think it is worth mentioning to help find the wolves.

-cuitl (She has been defending herself quite a bit, but is it possible that CFC mentioned her role and that is why she is now gone? I think it could be a possibility)

-hedgie (I know she was cleared by squirrels, but she was really active in the last game and not so much in this one (Maybe she just learned really quickly). Also, just because people claim to have had a role does that mean they actually had that role? Since we are starting to figure out items/roles I would suppose that just about anyone could say I had x even though they didn't). I would say she is at the bottom of my suspicious list at this point. You know the whole voting for people because they are being quiet has not been working well.

Just my thoughts. Please add anything to them if you see anything. I am going to head to bed for the night. I will check in again before work tomorrow morning.

ALERT: I will be at work from 7:15AM mountain time to 7:30PM (or later) tomorrow. I will be able to get on during my lunch break which could occur somewhere between 11:30 to 2:00PM or possibly later. Please do not start getting suspicious of me because I am not being acitve; I have a real life too and I have to make money to survive the real game of life..😉
 
So I can say that orca2011 hasn't done anything suspicious that I've seen. But I mean I can only figure out so much from PM's.

I also think character roles MUST have some sort of special ability, otherwise they wouldn't be character roles, they would be tributes. Since dyachei isn't giving clues on items usage, maybe they had to deduce they special skill relative to the character in the book!? All this runaround is making me dizzy 😏

Just speculation, but what if the special characters need the item that's related to them to get a special ability? like Haymitch need the rum or something like that?
 
Ok. I have looked back through the thread, just a quick overlook

-hedgie (I know she was cleared by squirrels, but she was really active in the last game and not so much in this one (Maybe she just learned really quickly). Also, just because people claim to have had a role does that mean they actually had that role? Since we are starting to figure out items/roles I would suppose that just about anyone could say I had x even though they didn't). I would say she is at the bottom of my suspicious list at this point. You know the whole voting for people because they are being quiet has not been working well.

I've stayed quieter this game because when I talked a lot in the last game I got votes for every lynching. I've figured out there's no good amount of talking to do. If you're too vocal, especially in defending yourself, people think you're a wolf. If you don't talk people think it's because you don't want to be outed as a wolf. I tried to talk a medium amount but that leads people to think I'm a wolf because I was more talkative last game. There's really no way to win 🙂. I changed my strategy because in the post mortem of the Disney game readers who hadn't been playing said they were certain I was a wolf. That's when I decided to pick a new strategy.

Since you mentioned that I'm not posting a lot I went through and looked at who's commented the most with this post I have 59 posts in this thread and am tied for the fifth most comments in this thread (although I am tied with a dead player...). I have been strategizing openly in the thread and chatting with my district members. Although I don't agree with killing people because they're quiet to play devil's advocate: Trematode was also really active in the last game and in terms of commenting on this thread her place is 25/35.

I'm confused about what you're saying about the items and the roles. I'm not taking the people's statements about their roles as face value. I even brought up that it was odd that Petpony signed up for Katniss and just happened to be her in the game. If dyachei assigned roles fairly (like drawing slips of paper out of a hat) Petpony would have had a less than 3% chance of getting Katniss.

In terms of items I've only mentioned one--the jabberjay. I mentioned it before anyone else on the main thread said they had it or knew about it. I tried to relay what it is used for but I wasn't totally sure of the details since squirrels is the one who had it. I've never claimed to have any items since I haven't.

I think you might be missing how often I post or that I'm strategizing because in this game everyone has similar avatars. Most people have the dark dreary district pictures whereas in the Disney game I had a bright happy timon avatar. I know that I've even seen ky post and looking at the avatar without reading the name I'll say when did I post that? Maybe that's just me though since I tend to remember people by their avatars.

/sorry for the novel.
 
Just speculation, but what if the special characters need the item that's related to them to get a special ability? like Haymitch need the rum or something like that?

Now that is an idea...maybe Katniss needed the bow and arrow as well?
 
Now that is an idea...maybe Katniss needed the bow and arrow as well?

Perhaps that's why, when given the bow & arrow, the tribute is told they can use it or give it to someone else? 😕
 
Perhaps that's why, when given the bow & arrow, the tribute is told they can use it or give it to someone else? 😕

Hmm. I thought only Packen said they had that option. kanariya had the bow and arrow and said she(?) didn't have options as to what she could do with it. Before she died CFC also said that she was only told to use the bow and arrow carefully and that there were no option as to what to do with it.
 
Hmm. I thought only Packen said they had that option. kanariya had the bow and arrow and said she(?) didn't have options as to what she could do with it. Before she died CFC also said that she was only told to use the bow and arrow carefully and that there were no option as to what to do with it.

All my ideas are dead ends. :bang: I got nuthin' then. Off to bed for now.
 
DVMDream or Shortandsweet could have vouched for Devyn but didn't for whatever reason, and Trematode didn't say anything about PetPony.

1. We, Shortnsweet (ahem, me) and DVMDream are not in Devyn's group. And I have been super open saying everything I know about Kanderson's role before she died, as well as saying DVM and I have been chatting every day.

2. Sorry Bandierose 🙁

3. Is Trematode at a meeting or work IRL? I feel like if I found out my district mate was A) Katniss and B) then attacked, injured, and silenced, I would be on the public thread a lot more trying to figure out how to help her or get more information/think things through with us.
 
I can vouch for hedgiehog, she is the only player I was able to clear with my jabberjay. In her first pm to us she said that she wasn't gonna post like crazy in the main thread like last time because it didn't turn out well for her. She has been very open with our group in PM and we have chatted frequently about strategy.

Does anyone find it odd that SOV and Kirst decided to come out with Liss's list after she was killed by the wolves? I can't help but wonder if SOV and Kirst are both wolves and that's why they took Lissarae out and then they sent out the list of "cleared" players and of course both said it was the list Liss. sent because they're both wolves. I don't think either is dumb enough to list all wolves in their list, they could be all tributes and they just want us to waste our votes taking out those players after finding out they are wolves because they know we will. I'll admit it is a really risky move if you have 2 wolves in the group, though, because then you're giving up 2 wolves to save a wolf from being lynched for 4 days, doesn't really seem to add up to me. So, maybe that's not it 😕. So confusing.
 
Does anyone find it odd that SOV and Kirst decided to come out with Liss's list after she was killed by the wolves? I can't help but wonder if SOV and Kirst are both wolves and that's why they took Lissarae out and then they sent out the list of "cleared" players and of course both said it was the list Liss. sent because they're both wolves. I don't think either is dumb enough to list all wolves in their list, they could be all tributes and they just want us to waste our votes taking out those players after finding out they are wolves because they know we will. I'll admit it is a really risky move if you have 2 wolves in the group, though, because then you're giving up 2 wolves to save a wolf from being lynched for 4 days, doesn't really seem to add up to me. So, maybe that's not it 😕. So confusing.

I feel like coming out with information after someone has died is because that person didn't want to share the information themselves for fear of being targeted when they were alive (eg Kanderson/survival pack). If Liss did in fact share her list with her district buddies, perhaps she asked to have them wait to say anything unless she was already dead or silenced? I don't know, maybe I am just going by my experience with Kanderson--but I can understand not wanting to be targeted with a list/item. I am inclined to believe SOV is a tribute, because he has been so open about everything.
 
This is probably due to a naive/newbie mistake. I have never played any WW games before. I got a PM from Dyachei that said I got the b&a, use it wisely. I asked her what it did. She said that she could not tell me, but I could use it or give it away. I figured she told everyone that. So that is why I thought that would be a good way to catch someone lying about having an item.

Strategery gone wrong.
 
Ok. I have looked back through the thread, just a quick overlook

This is what I have found to be suspicious...



-thatredhead (The thing with the PM's seems weird, but what seems even more weird is the constant stating that there is a knife as a weapon which I don't think there actually is). I could be way off on this and I really hate to metion this since she was cleared by Lissa but I don't know if it is possible that a wolf was able to feed Lissa this info or if a wolf was able to avoid investigation. I also hate to mention this because I was on the cleared by Lissa list and if she were to come back as a wolf that puts a target on the rest of us on that list...:scared: But, I think it is worth mentioning to help find the wolves.

-cuitl (She has been defending herself quite a bit, but is it possible that CFC mentioned her role and that is why she is now gone? I think it could be a possibility)

I'm stating there is a knife as a weapon because there was a knife listed (in bold!) after CFC was killed. I figure that a weapon wasn't inserted into the storyline and bolded for no reason whatsoever. But if you guys don't think so, that's fine. Of course no one would come forward about it because it would implicate them. Sheepdog says he woke up next to the knife but nothing else. It's our decision to believe him or not - seems that people want to believe him - okay, I'll let it go.

I'm trusting that list from Lissarae because I'm on it, and I know I'm a tribute. It's suspicious that it came out after her death but honestly, I think we're wasting a crapload of time strategizing about it. Why would SOV and krist both agree on information when they were both wolves? And if you think I'm a wolf, that would be adding three wolves on a list that could be double-checked and outed. So for the love of hummus, people, can we move off of the list? It's providing an excellent distraction.

If Dyachei says we aren't supposed to kill the good guys, I assume the three "bad guys" mentioned (Cato and the other two) are our targets. I think we need to look at Cuit and Trematode in that case, because they both potentially know about the roles of Peeta and Katniss in their groups. Cuit maybe had Peeta hit; Trematode seems keen on keeping Petpony alive - maybe she's sucking information out of her (or was...)
 
I'm stating there is a knife as a weapon because there was a knife listed (in bold!) after CFC was killed. I figure that a weapon wasn't inserted into the storyline and bolded for no reason whatsoever. But if you guys don't think so, that's fine. Of course no one would come forward about it because it would implicate them. Sheepdog says he woke up next to the knife but nothing else. It's our decision to believe him or not - seems that people want to believe him - okay, I'll let it go.

I went back and looked at all of dyachei's posts in this thread. She never bolded the word knife. If it was a physical item of importance it would likely be bolded because that's how it has been in previous games and she has bolded things in this game too. The only person who ever actually bolded the word knife is cuitlasdlfjk. Maybe that was her way of admitting to being a wolf but I doubt it since dyachei isn't making it seem like the knife is an actually item.

As for Sheepdog I think you're missing the bigger point of his post. You keep focusing on the fact that he woke up next to the knife. The important part is really that someone tried to stab him in the middle of the night and failed. He was the target of a wolf attack.
 
I went back and looked at all of dyachei's posts in this thread. She never bolded the word knife. If it was a physical item of importance it would likely be bolded because that's how it has been in previous games and she has bolded things in this game too. The only person who ever actually bolded the word knife is cuitlasdlfjk. Maybe that was her way of admitting to being a wolf but I doubt it since dyachei isn't making it seem like the knife is an actually item.

As for Sheepdog I think you're missing the bigger point of his post. You keep focusing on the fact that he woke up next to the knife. The important part is really that someone tried to stab him in the middle of the night and failed. He was the target of a wolf attack.

Like I said, I'll drop it.
 
Sheesh, I'm sorry for ever bringing up the knife! It was me theorizing and obviously I was wrong.

This is the part that made me think the knife was an item:
She has stumbled over the body of CFC, Peeta Mellark. It looks like his throat has been slit.

In a clearing a little further along, a knife is found in the ground, dripping with blood.

I think we need to look at Cuit and Trematode in that case, because they both potentially know about the roles of Peeta and Katniss in their groups. Cuit maybe had Peeta hit; Trematode seems keen on keeping Petpony alive - maybe she's sucking information out of her (or was...)

I agree that you need to look at me and Trematode. In my case so you finally learn I'm a tribute and stop wasting your time suspecting me! And I'd really like to know if Trematode is a wolf or not 'cause she's high on my list right now. As far as having CFC hit, I can honestly say (for the billionth time) that I had no idea that CFC was Peeta. My guess is she was a random target but a wolf could easily have had an investigatory item (or potentially an investigatory role).

But I think it's going to take my being investigated or killed for you to believe me 🙄

Finally, I was given the bow and arrow last night. I can confirm that you're told to use it wisely. And if you ask what you can do with it that you can pass it to another player, use it on another player, or not do anything. I'll be honest and say I really, really thought about using it on someone (since you think I'm a wolf anyway what does it matter if I accidentally take out a tribute?)... but I'd rather have known for sure that my target was a wolf. So I passed it to someone else (not sure I should say who yet though).

I've got a super scary test from 9-10am CST so I'm off to study some more now.
 
I've stayed quieter this game because when I talked a lot in the last game I got votes for every lynching. I've figured out there's no good amount of talking to do. If you're too vocal, especially in defending yourself, people think you're a wolf. If you don't talk people think it's because you don't want to be outed as a wolf. I tried to talk a medium amount but that leads people to think I'm a wolf because I was more talkative last game. There's really no way to win 🙂. I changed my strategy because in the post mortem of the Disney game readers who hadn't been playing said they were certain I was a wolf. That's when I decided to pick a new strategy.

You just can't win. Don't talk enough=wolf; talk too much=wolf; talk somewhere in the middle=wolf. :laugh:

I did state that you are at the bottom of my suspicious people list. I am just trying to pick up on anything. As for what I was saying about the item, I was trying to say that if someone had mentioned it previously anyone could now say hey I found x item and used it and so and so is cleared. I also did read through over 25 pages of thread in about an hour and a half last night so I could have easily gotten mixed up as to who said they had what item first (especially with all these dark avatars).

At this point, I am not sure who is or is not a wolf.
 
Still waiting. Here's the deal, I can't move forward without this PM - kaydubs and TT don't have the results/PMs that I do, so you are going to have to wait for me to get back from work to post night results. I won't have access to the internet from work except by phone, and as you might imagine, typing up those results will be difficult. But I want the game to move along. So the day deadline will still be tonight at 11 pm eastern unless no night results are available. Will do my best to update ASAP
 
I had no idea that PP was Katniss either until AFTER she outed herself.
This is how the conversation went:
"PP, DVMdream seems to want to lynch me."
*I leave go to do whatever*
I come back onto this thread and see that PP has outed herself as Katniss.
*checks pms*
"I may have an idea."
"PP why did you out yourself as Katniss? Are you really Katniss or are you just saying that to save my butt?"

Then she said she IS Katniss. I think she outed herself to save her butt (because people were getting suspicious of her comments) and I think she wanted to see if the whole Peeta/Katniss thing had any significance. She told me she was not afraid to out herself because she has some sort of protection. She said she still did not know if she could trust me. I told her I could not help her there, because I was given the role of tribute and that nothing significant had come my way at that point in time to help prove otherwise and I apologized to her for that. Then, she was silenced and I have no way of communicating with her.

If she was NOT Katniss, you would think that the real Katniss would reveal the role to at least one other person and somehow the truth would escape. But it hasn't, so for the meantime, I think that she is. If you want to throw her under a bus, so be it, but you will look like an idiot if she is the real Katniss. Someone with powers should investigate her and report back to the group. Thanks to that nice list of investigations that Lissa I believe gave to us before she died, the chances of PP actually being Katniss is higher than if that list was never brought to out attention.

Unless there is a shred of evidence that PP is not Katniss, I am not voting my partner out of this game. She is the only person I can talk strategy with, and I have felt pretty useless without her.
 
Finally, I was given the bow and arrow last night. I can confirm that you're told to use it wisely. And if you ask what you can do with it that you can pass it to another player, use it on another player, or not do anything. I'll be honest and say I really, really thought about using it on someone (since you think I'm a wolf anyway what does it matter if I accidentally take out a tribute?)... but I'd rather have known for sure that my target was a wolf. So I passed it to someone else (not sure I should say who yet though).

I've got a super scary test from 9-10am CST so I'm off to study some more now.
Hi. I just got in. I can confirm I received the bow and arrow from cuitl. Dyachei specifically sent me a message telling me it came from cuitl.
 
Btw, I am not saying cuitl is cleared or anything because of that. Since we talked about looking for people with weapons, that might be the safest thing to gain trust. Or not. Anyway, I have it since midnight last night. I have not done anything with it.
 
So I think an idea from further up is worth revisiting: what if each "named" player needs to get their special item to be useful to us? Like bow and arrow to Katniss, knife (if it exists...) to Haymitch, etc? I worry that passing the bow on to Petpony will be useless because she's silenced, but it's worth considering.

We need some kind of strategy here. However, whoever is supposed to PM dyachei has not been active yet - let's see who's missing from the last night (not one of the silenced trackerjacker people) - they might have a wolfy role?
 
So I think an idea from further up is worth revisiting: what if each "named" player needs to get their special item to be useful to us? Like bow and arrow to Katniss, knife (if it exists...) to Haymitch, etc? I worry that passing the bow on to Petpony will be useless because she's silenced, but it's worth considering.

We need some kind of strategy here. However, whoever is supposed to PM dyachei has not been active yet - let's see who's missing from the last night (not one of the silenced trackerjacker people) - they might have a wolfy role?

Oh crap, the suspense is gonna kill me 🙁. Hopefully not literally :laugh:.
As someone who hasn't read the books, I don't know how that all works, but I agree that our strategy needs to change and this seems like a good place to start.
 
So I think an idea from further up is worth revisiting: what if each "named" player needs to get their special item to be useful to us? Like bow and arrow to Katniss, knife (if it exists...) to Haymitch, etc? I worry that passing the bow on to Petpony will be useless because she's silenced, but it's worth considering.

Can you actually pass these to people? Or if you don't use them, are they given to someone through random chance.

(I brought my laptop to school today so I can keep up with the game :meanie:. Back to astrophysics for the meantime).
 
So I think an idea from further up is worth revisiting: what if each "named" player needs to get their special item to be useful to us? Like bow and arrow to Katniss, knife (if it exists...) to Haymitch, etc? I worry that passing the bow on to Petpony will be useless because she's silenced, but it's worth considering.
But aren't almost all the items for Katniss in the book. The bow/arrow, the pin, the pack, etc. I am not sure that makes sense. Any tribute can use them, just as Dyachei says, "we have to use them wisely".

That may be beyond my capability right now.
 
But aren't almost all the items for Katniss in the book. The bow/arrow, the pin, the pack, etc. I am not sure that makes sense. Any tribute can use them, just as Dyachei says, "we have to use them wisely".

That may be beyond my capability right now.

Right, but the bow and arrow is the only one we can choose to pass on - not so for the pin, for example.
 
I was also thinking that maybe the items needed to be passed to a particular player, like the bow and arrow to Katniss. But there hasn't been any mention of an item that's particular to either Peeta or Rue, so I'm not sure anymore.

Also, I don't think targeting people who were silent overnight is a great idea. Sleep is pretty awesome and it's only 7:15am here on the west coast.
 
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Apparently the bow and arrow has to be used or passed on.
I don't want it to pass to a wolf so I am inclined to use it.

I will use it to kill someone who you guys decide, but not someone on the cleared list.

I will randomly start with
shoot trematode
 
PS Why isn't night over?? Dyachei said night actions are due by 8 am eastern which is like 3 and 1/2 hours ago? Am I missing something?
 
krist, dyachei posted this a little further up on the page:

Still waiting. Here's the deal, I can't move forward without this PM - kaydubs and TT don't have the results/PMs that I do, so you are going to have to wait for me to get back from work to post night results. I won't have access to the internet from work except by phone, and as you might imagine, typing up those results will be difficult. But I want the game to move along. So the day deadline will still be tonight at 11 pm eastern unless no night results are available. Will do my best to update ASAP
 
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