WWedding at the End of the WWorld: Game Thread

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Do you think Cray would opt to bus sloth in a world that almost ties sloth with please? I think they're fully incompatible and she can only be with cubs if we're picking between the two.

Yeah I agree it seems unlikely, it involves a convoluted bussing plot that only Lawpy would dream of
 
Do you think Cray would opt to bus sloth in a world that almost ties sloth with please? I think they're fully incompatible and she can only be with cubs if we're picking between the two.
Yeah, I mentioned that in the ISO:

Again, I think this is NAI. Cray's vote here actually, IMO, doesn't give us any info about her OR Sloth's aff, although I'm a bit less inclined to believe in a wolf!Sloth in a wolf!Cray world because Cray's vote put the total at 3 when please was only 2 votes ahead of that. It would be a risky move to put an additional packmate that close to danger when she easily could have gone on Bread instead.
 
I don't think I'm willing to consider it entirely off the table at this time though. I've seen packs (that included Cray) make some decisions that were pretty wild.
I guess I'm just hesitant to put Cray in the Stagg zone (unless sloth exactly is some vanilla or meme ability which would then be reasonable bussing again).
 
I guess I'm just hesitant to put Cray in the Stagg zone (unless sloth exactly is some vanilla or meme ability which would then be reasonable bussing again).
If we take Sloth out of the equation for the moment, how do you feel about Cray's contributions to the game thus far?
 
Still slight village. I can't move her further up than that unless sloth flips wolf.
You village read her in RvB too though, didn't you?

I'm open to being talked out of this if I'm just tunneling on another villager, I just feel like there are tonal differences in what contributions she has made, and I can't quite get past that. But I haven't had a chance to look at RvB yet for comparison.
 
You village read her in RvB too though, didn't you?

I'm open to being talked out of this if I'm just tunneling on another villager, I just feel like there are tonal differences in what contributions she has made, and I can't quite get past that. But I haven't had a chance to look at RvB yet for comparison.

I think she needs more pressure at the very least. She hasn't posted enough to get an idea of where her reads/thoughts are.
 
You village read her in RvB too though, didn't you?

I'm open to being talked out of this if I'm just tunneling on another villager, I just feel like there are tonal differences in what contributions she has made, and I can't quite get past that. But I haven't had a chance to look at RvB yet for comparison.
Yes, but she henged on a wolf!Zenge world. I'm not connecting her to anyone here.

I don't know that I can do much talking out of it because she's not been all that active. It's just a gut feeling of mine that is weak compared to reasons I have to village read others.
 
Not clear; reminder why you don't sit on me a full D1 cycle.
Who do you see as a 3rd in a wolf!genny world? I think she's incompatible with Sloth, and I also think it's less likely that she and cubs would be w/w because both wolves sitting early on a village wagon (assuming that my feeling that she's incompatible with Sloth is correct) would be pretty bold. Which leaves me with Cray or Cyndia because I feel pretty good about at least the upper 2/3 of my bloc being where they are.

I searched her posts and there were very few mentions of pleasy. I'll check pleasy's posts for the reverse.
 
Who do you see as a 3rd in a wolf!genny world? I think she's incompatible with Sloth, and I also think it's less likely that she and cubs would be w/w because both wolves sitting early on a village wagon (assuming that my feeling that she's incompatible with Sloth is correct) would be pretty bold. Which leaves me with Cray or Cyndia because I feel pretty good about at least the upper 2/3 of my bloc being where they are.

I searched her posts and there were very few mentions of pleasy. I'll check pleasy's posts for the reverse.
How is she incompatible with sloth?

Probably not with cubs though as you were saying.
 
Nothing that I said contradicted that. I still don’t have a read on cray, I was saying that I’ll get a more solid idea about her after she spends some more time on the thread, specifically how she does her nightly catch-ups

I feel like I’m forgetting some of the roster is here. I would maybe like to get some pressure on bread, genny, cyndia, and Dina.

Not gonna place a vote yet bc we’re still like 24 hours away but if I had to right now, one of those four

Well from memory genny doesn’t respond to pressure votes she doesn’t really seem to care

genny- i wrote not as chaotic as id expect- but I'm not sure this is AI
Please only mentioned genny these 3 times, and they're fairly non-committal. I remember thinking it was odd that she included genny in her list of people she was "forgetting" were in the game when genny had been around and posting.
 
Please only mentioned genny these 3 times, and they're fairly non-committal. I remember thinking it was odd that she included genny in her list of people she was "forgetting" were in the game when genny had been around and posting.
Are you able to glean anything from this? I wasn't about to find it AI for genny at the time.
 
Are you able to glean anything from this? I wasn't about to find it AI for genny at the time.
No, this is part of why I'm planning to ISO genny's posts today when I get a chance. I can read pleasy's posts and go "this could be a soft distancing attempt," but she could very easily have been saying that to hedge on a village!genny too. genny hasn't posted anything yet this game that triggered me the way she did in HZD, but she's been floating in my neutrals because I haven't gotten enough to feel like she's definitely village either. I'm hoping that going back and looking at all of her posts might help me.
 
That would be a heckin hard bus today (so far) if she and Sloth are w/w.
genny busses when necessary.

Even ignoring please's first wolf game where she bussed while almost everyone else was bussing her, I distinctly remember her voting wolf!Mel when no one else was in Meat then saying this when confronted about it later.
I vote for wolves as a wolf, just don’t bus.
I voted for Mel because he was sketchy in PM, and switched to PotE the next day because that role reveal was even sketchier. Not being on a wolf lynch doesn’t mean I’m a wolf, it just means I vote badly. Lots of villagers do.
 
In what world do I sit on your vote as a wolf when a wolf is going down? Me, lover of ties. Come on AM, you’re better than this. You’re better than I am at this game!
Would you ever tie two wolves as the third and final wolf?
 
Right, but I wouldn't think that being the second vote of the cycle and first onto a packmate would fall under the umbrella of "when necessary."

Did Mel get voted out in that game?
Yes. She was off-wagon that cycle though.

I feel like sloth is in dangerous territory regardless of affiliation so a vote can always be justified there.
 
I’m having a hard time figuring out why please had to go down unless there was another wolf up for vote.
I have a tinfoil about this other than the bolded, but I haven't seen anything in the write ups yet to suggest it's correct, and I think HZD being my last game is clouding my judgment a bit.
 
Vote Cubs

@Animal Midwife anything wrong with a sloth/Cubs pack? Any reason I should consider Sloth over Cubs?

I liked a Cubs vote yesterday and I like it even more today in light of the VSLMIP flip. His D1 pass just expired. (Plus kinda copping out and sheeping a flipped villager so I don't think I'm tunneling)
Sloth still looks bad trying to get the thread to back off of Dina.
 
Vote Cubs

@Animal Midwife anything wrong with a sloth/Cubs pack? Any reason I should consider Sloth over Cubs?

I liked a Cubs vote yesterday and I like it even more today in light of the VSLMIP flip. His D1 pass just expired. (Plus kinda copping out and sheeping a flipped villager so I don't think I'm tunneling)
Sloth still looks bad trying to get the thread to back off of Dina.
Do you mean please here? Otherwise, where did this happen?
 
Vote Cubs

@Animal Midwife anything wrong with a sloth/Cubs pack? Any reason I should consider Sloth over Cubs?

I liked a Cubs vote yesterday and I like it even more today in light of the VSLMIP flip. His D1 pass just expired. (Plus kinda copping out and sheeping a flipped villager so I don't think I'm tunneling)
Sloth still looks bad trying to get the thread to back off of Dina.
I don't think so? I'd just be mainly confused why he didn't do more when both of his partners are up. He's not exactly shy to bussing.
 
There's also please protecting both of them that is extremely risky given how many already wanted to kill her.
 
I pulled please's comments about Sloth and cubs to see if I could glean anything from them. She gives early village/"normal" reads on both of them. With really very little justification. It wouldn't surprise me if one of them is a wolf, but it would surprise me if both are.
@Melchizedek how do you feel about this?
Please has only wolfed the 2 times, so I guess I can't say that she 100% wouldn't do something risky like village read both her packmates, but it feels less likely to me than her doing it with 1 sketchy villager and 1 wolf partner. Thoughts?
 
@Melchizedek how do you feel about this?
Please has only wolfed the 2 times, so I guess I can't say that she 100% wouldn't do something risky like village read both her packmates, but it feels less likely to me than her doing it with 1 sketchy villager and 1 wolf partner. Thoughts?
I'm 100% ready to sheep you and AM and thats a lot of quotes I have to analyze later, you caught me just as I was about to log off. I will read later and think about it.
 
@Melchizedek how do you feel about this?
Please has only wolfed the 2 times, so I guess I can't say that she 100% wouldn't do something risky like village read both her packmates, but it feels less likely to me than her doing it with 1 sketchy villager and 1 wolf partner. Thoughts?
Okay but who are you assuming is the sketchy villager and who the packmate?
For sloth, Like I said the general thought process of asking someone for specifics on their reads felt villagey, but the VCA don't lie.
Cubs I have no village points for
I like my vote between these two, but on Cubs unless you tell me sloth over cubs.
 
Okay but who are you assuming is the sketchy villager and who the packmate?
For sloth, Like I said the general thought process of asking someone for specifics on their reads felt villagey, but the VCA don't lie.
Cubs I have no village points for
I like my vote between these two, but on Cubs unless you tell me sloth over cubs.
I'm waiting to see more content from Sloth before I feel like I can really decide, but I ISOed both of them last night and felt like cubs had a few moments that were too wolfy to be wolfing (similar to in HZD when he was weird about genny after I voted her, and he was village), and I was leaning slightly more toward Sloth because of it. But she's barely posted today so far.
 
I'm waiting to see more content from Sloth before I feel like I can really decide, but I ISOed both of them last night and felt like cubs had a few moments that were too wolfy to be wolfing (similar to in HZD when he was weird about genny after I voted her, and he was village), and I was leaning slightly more toward Sloth because of it. But she's barely posted today so far.

I don't think she's going to post much more today since it seems like she's not feeling well

sloth and cubs do feel w/v to me. Not sure where to place cray, it's hard to evaluate her when she's acting outside of her usual meta
 
I think my POE is sloth, cubs, genny, cray, and cyndia

I think I feel okay about genny atm, mostly because I feel like she wouldn't have sat on AM when she could've helped save please and also because I didn't feel particularly wolfy about her before that. Open to re-evaluating her more later because I'm terrible at reading her

Not sure about cyndia, but I've been agreeing with a lot of her logic
 
This is kinda weird coming after my ISO conclusions. Did you even read the tl;dr, or did you just see the word "defense" and get triggered by it and stop reading?

No I understand hows its viewed as a defense, I was just trying to add more context. Saying I dont generally feel like shes wolfy vs laying out reasons and actively trying to get people not to vote there.
 
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