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tartesos said:
I like it and it's in line with what I wanted to do and she has been so fishy and flopped.
Would be a very noob wolf move if it was.
Mistakes are paid in blood.


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Coop doesn't have a ton of actual wolf experience, but she is in no way new to the game, and experienced villagers learn a good sense of blatantly obvious wolf behavior to avoid. Mistakes happen but just pointing out I don't consider her a noob, noob wolf, as a general statement. She could be a wolf this game, just not a noob one.
 
Karabiner13 said:
Just because I'm catching up doesn't mean you all need to sit on Coop and not discuss options after coop or alternatives to coop. I'll be back to catching up after I run some errands
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I keep saying each person should ideally have just as many wolf suspects they are considering as we estimate wolves in the game, ideally twice that number actually.

I am considering Coop, Mel, CoffeeQ, Allie, BJ, that's just off the top of my head, I'll look at the roster again as per usual.
 
I'm currently writing up my feels on the people I actually have feels towards but where I'm leaning to place my vote after quickly getting caught up is: mel, tarty, LOTF, YK
 
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Miranda Senft said:
DAY 5 Official ~ End of the Night It's Goin Down ~ Lynch Tally

Coop (4) - Lawper, AM, Paws, tarty
Mel (2) - Mixalot, Sporty
Cray (2) - Mel, MOOSE
Tarty (4) - Coffeebean, yk, kara, Bryndi

12/16 voting
Coops and Tarty, you're in the lead

~the bigger they are the harder they fall~

Lynch close 10pm EST (~1 hour)

~you better move, you better dance~
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How right is this, Moose? Because I'm drunk modding right now and am about to watch a movie and it would be suuuuper if this was accurate lol
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MixedAnimals77 said:
Alrighty I actually have a little bit of time so short synopses.
Villages feels currently:
Moose -after pming her and the fact I'm still alive believe she is village.
Coopah- I really don't think a wolf would be that dumb to push a lynch like that and then back off knowing she'd be the next lynch target
Allie- as stated before she's making sense to me and similar thinking
AM-obvious reasons

Current top suspects on my list are Mel and bryn. Bryn was the nail in the coffin making a tie in the Moose/genny debacle. Could be wolf hoping to have two villagers killed at once. She also voted independent only to change it last minute to make the tie. I know she explained why but my thoughts. I agree with what Cray's post about Mel. I don't like how Mel got "mad" at Dolphin and I for voting SAR then continues to beat the point to death the next day especially when he initially votes genny early day then changes to coffee? Also just general feels not liking his play.

As an aside tinfoil: It was a WildAxolot wedding-WZ was wolf so is Mel since they got married.

Disagree with me but personally I'm not of the opinion of lynching chaos-they have independent win conditions that generally don't harm village.

With Kara's point out of Mel's quote, plus he's voting for Coop "on policy" is an easy way to go with the lynch and get someone who is probably gonna flip village lynched.
Lynch Mel
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I agree with 99% of this post. MA has in her village pile a number of my suspects, but that's hardly unusual for players. I agree that Mel and BJ are worrisome for reasons stated by MA and myself. BJ was going on a bit about people's sketchy last min change votes for SAR but I didn't find her defense all that convincing when I pointed out hers.

As far as chaos, we really don't have to speculate if someone is or not. There might be mechanics where that might be important (see Age of the Gods) but otherwise, like I keep saying, it's enough to just decided you don't think they are village or are not working for village. That's it. That said, I don't find her role claims to be particularly concerning, more just how she's been interacting with us about it. She seems cagey and I don't totally get why at this point
 
Let me role reveal. I'm the one that made Mel like ballet, wild zoo break dancing day 1 and genny tap dancing.
Night 3 I tried to do moose but it didn't work ( night cancel?)

Now do with your lynch vote as you may, but you might as well go for a wolf or chaos, or at least the resurrected one.
Im keeping my vote on coop but I could vote on coffee if I see the chance even if it means I die tonight.



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MixedAnimals77 said:
Also N3 would have been a conversion
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I thought I saw a clue somewhere in the write up. What are you seeing? I tend to miss these things.

Again, it doesn't matter too much to worry about conversion, besides the fact that one needs to be continually reassessing one's village pile anyway, and sometimes having an inkling of date can help one hone in on a change in a villager pile player's tone or play.

Otherwise, it's just open season on non-village. It's easier to just catch originals unless it was like last game. But even then a sensitive wolf-dar is all you need.
 
Animal Midwife said:
👍 Doing well, nooblet.
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tartesos said:
Let me role reveal. I'm the one that made Mel like ballet, wild zoo break dancing day 1 and genny tap dancing.
Night 3 I tried to do moose but it didn't work ( night cancel?)

Now do with your lynch vote as you may, but you might as well go for a wolf or chaos, or at least the resurrected one.
Im keeping my vote on coop but I could vote on coffee if I see the chance even if it means I die tonight.



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Not sure what to make of this
 
SportPonies said:
ISOing bryndi so I can put on paper why she was sketching me out.


Fishing?


Questioning coop. Not inherently sketchy, just something interesting I found that's making me think the two could be wolf/village or a well placed wolf-wolf interaction.


We now know that there was no influencer and it did not lead to two village lynches (this is during the Dubz lynch). Feels a little shifty to me, like a wolf trying to lead village astray. Could, of course, be a villager genuinely trying to gamesolve and getting it way wrong, but WIFOM.


Interaction with confirmed wolf. No comments, just noting her interaction.

Jumps on Dubz train 25 minutes before lynch close, despite stating that some of Dubz's choices were questionable earlier in the day.



Monday, bryndi lynches Coop at 10 AM, MOOSE at noon, and genny at 5 PM (times in CST). Unlynches genny at 8:30, lynches tart at 8:50, lynches SAR at 8:56. Just weird to me. Sudden flip to tart feels like a wolf trying to get off a village lynch. Goes back to tart with her first lynch the next day.
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Like this post lots, thanks for the work.

Um, how do we know there isn't an influencer? I don't even remember it coming up but there it is in black and white.
 
DAY 5 Unofficial ~ End of the Night It's Goin Down ~ Lynch Tally

Coop (4) - Lawper, AM, Paws, tarty
Mel (3) - Mixalot, Sporty, Cray
Cray (2) - Mel, MOOSE
Tarty (4) - Coffeebean, yk, kara, Bryndi

13/16 voting
Coops and Tarty, you're in the lead

~the bigger they are the harder they fall~

Lynch close 10pm EST (~30 minutes)

~you better move, you better dance~
 
Karabiner13 said:
lol was going to post something similar

9/16 voting

No wonder I feel like I've taken over the thread today. Guys come on discussion is good and early lynch votes with discussion are better. Definitely been hearing the same voices on repeat today

bryndy: you've been on a lot today. Where you voting?

coop: I know you're moving but you didn't even want to get in a contingency?

tarty: where you leaning today?

LoTF and allie: I know you both work but interested in your thoughts

Sporty: you popped in earlier today saying you were leaning bryndy. Any chance you want to get a vote in soon?

And I already tagged moose wanting to know her thoughts
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I voted coop. For obvious reasons, seeing if we catch a wolf that made a mistake. I could vote coffee or sporty also but I don't see anyone on them.


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tartesos said:
Let me role reveal. I'm the one that made Mel like ballet, wild zoo break dancing day 1 and genny tap dancing.
Night 3 I tried to do moose but it didn't work ( night cancel?)

Now do with your lynch vote as you may, but you might as well go for a wolf or chaos, or at least the resurrected one.
Im keeping my vote on coop but I could vote on coffee if I see the chance even if it means I die tonight.



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Funny, I tried to vanillize you during that night cancel thing 😛
 
tartesos said:
Let me role reveal. I'm the one that made Mel like ballet, wild zoo break dancing day 1 and genny tap dancing.
Night 3 I tried to do moose but it didn't work ( night cancel?)

Now do with your lynch vote as you may, but you might as well go for a wolf or chaos, or at least the resurrected one.
Im keeping my vote on coop but I could vote on coffee if I see the chance even if it means I die tonight.



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Also the last few games the people with the posting restriction abilities have been wolves so...
 
Unlynch Cray
Lynch Cofee

Self prez rather lose chaos than myself
 
bryndiana.jones said:
I'll respond to these quote by quote

Nope, I wanted to hear why she felt that way, not what her role was.


Yeah but we didn't know at the time, and something that happens too often in this game (probably today included) is that a vote picks up speed, and it doesn't feel like many of the possibilities are addressed. We didn't know exactly what was going on with Dolphin, so if it was just some source feeding her info, if the source was a wolf, then we lose two villagers in mislynches. Yeah I got that way wrong, but you know what? A fat chunk of players got it way wrong yesterday.


My feelings throughout the day changed quite a bit, I unlynched genny because it felt like we were missing information, and I didn't have wolf feels for genny before that anyway. Tart is still sketch, and I addressed this above, but why would I sit on a vote that is going nowhere (tart) when two people I believe are village are about to die? So I threw down my vote for SAR, who was in my neutral category.
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Weak defense on a number of fronts. Pointing out that others are wrong to explain your own play, not good village defense if you are village, and the "me too!" thing is a common one you see wolves claim as they try to blend in with the lynch mob.

Also asking why should you sit on a nowhere vote... we've all been over this. We all change from nowhere votes to players up for contention, but it's overall a truism to vote who you really are convinced is a wolf. Sure, you're going to intervene to save people, but that should be made clear at the time before flip. Maybe there wasn't time or you did make that clear. Dunno. Not using this to roast you, but had to point out this isn't great defense and taken all around not liking the whole sitch.
 
Miranda Senft said:
Also the last few games the people with the posting restriction abilities have been wolves so...
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was PBC in the last game? I thought she was village
sooo I think this is wrong
but who am I to judge that sort of mistake in remembering prior games, or even stuff from this one?

except it just feels like you're throwing things out there to see if they'll stick
 
Crayola227 said:
was PBC in the last game? I thought she was village
sooo I think this is wrong
but who am I to judge that sort of mistake in remembering prior games, or even stuff from this one?

except it just feels like you're throwing things out there to see if they'll stick
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When I wolfed with Jboo she assigned posting restrictions to people and they posted all day.
 
Also if I was a wolf, I would know if tarty or coops ate village and since chaos doesn’t count for village numbers and I’d want to lose as many villagers as possible, I’D VOTE THE VILLAGERS NOT THE CONFIRMED CHAOS.
 
Melchizedek said:
I read genny village since D1. She flipped village. She was blocked by Coop on a no kill night. Go ahead and tell me it wasn't a conversion. I can't help it if I've reasoned through things and am 2 steps ahead of everyone.


Are you saying a wolf isn't a wolf until the flip wolf? I caution against looking into ANYTHING a wolf posts. Just because her tracker was correct doesn't mean it isn't a distraction that will just waste time and lead to a dead end. You think that if the tracker actually would out a wolf, she would have posted it?


There is no Dana, only COOOOOOOOP.



You're delusional if you don't think Coop wouldn't hide behind the WIFOM.
You're also delusional if you think that its okay for village to lose a villager over losing chaos who doesn't count for village numbers.


Where are you getting this? N3 was the night coffee? redirected everyone so how would the conversion have happened?
You're officially downgraded to noob status again.





are all three of you daft? The bolded lyrics are "I can work a miracle...Keep you like an oath" Dolphin was the SECRET KEEPER sworn to secrecy, its mod flair for her death.

:bang::bang::bang:

Lynch me if you want, this is all you're getting from me today.
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Pretty decent post, but there are other issues with play.

I didn't catch that MA was suggesting chaos was low priority - I'm championing that we don't get too sidetracked hunting chaos per se, not that same thing as suggesting they should be tolerated because they are usually benign. Not so at all. I was a neutral redirector once that chose to play village, and caused a good amount of havoc. However as we saw in the last game with SAR, she chose to work with the wolves. So that is just the most ridiculous point and I missed it. Raises an eyebrow.
 
LOTF- would like to know if I'm still her #2 that she was so adamant about, especially now that genny is dead. Not sure if I'm having a hard time reading her because I'm annoyed with her feelings on me but I lean wolf on her. Just seems like she's trying too hard to cast suspicion on me.

Tarty- very aloof, not what I would call "actively" wolf hunting. Don't see many original thoughts and seems to just pick one of the leading lynch candidates. (I see his role reveal while I'm writing this and it makes me feel a little better about him- likely won't vote there)

Mel- drastic change in tone over the last 24 hours- is the dancing banana some kind of post restriction or is it just part of his recent idgaf attitute?

YK- hasn't really done anything today to change the feelings I had on her yesterday- could vote there today

mixy, am, kara- village

moose- In the sense of the theme of this game, the "buzzkill" role kind of screams wolf to me- I may have missed it but do we know what she actually does?

coffee?- unconfirmed chaos (unless Mel knows something we don't), don't know how her little lightning bolt thing was necessarily helpful to neither village nor wolves so it kind of makes sense. I am someone that is ok with getting rid of chaos whenever possible...

coop- I'm just not feeling that lynch today! originally was getting wolf feels from her just because of the way she was questioning dolphin's info and then of course the whole pushing genny's lynches, but the way things have gone down after she changed her mind about genny, it just reads to me as a very misguided and overly assuming villager

lawpy (forgot he was playing), bryndi, cray, sporty, paws, anyone else I'm forgetting- not enough stuff off the top of my head to form an opinion on them, need to ISO
 
Melchizedek said:
Also if I was a wolf, I would know if tarty or coops ate village and since chaos doesn’t count for village numbers and I’d want to lose as many villagers as possible, I’D VOTE THE VILLAGERS NOT THE CONFIRMED CHAOS.
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wait, I must not be caught up, we have confirmed chaos? where?
 
Karabiner13 said:
@MixedAnimals77 what do you think of mel now people have weighed in on your write-ups interpretation and mel has given reads
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Still the same. Maybe I'm tunnelling but I'm not finding him particularly helpful and his last few day votes haven't been particularly useful. Also not a fan of his obvious trolling which isn't helpful either and refused to answer bryn.
Crayola227 said:
why?
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I explained this a bit later but incase you missed it. If Sporty is right about the bolded lyrics meaning something last nights write up talks about taking an oath (I'm thinking this is vows because you don't take an oath to play truth or dare but some people think its relating to dolphin's role) and then it says til death do us part. This was a WildAxolot wedding and WZ was a wolf therefore I don't think it'd be unreasonable for Mel to be the other half of that. People disagree, but I'd like to see if Sporty is right at all along with Mel's current play I'm fine with lynching him.
Crayola227 said:
I thought I saw a clue somewhere in the write up. What are you seeing? I tend to miss these things.
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PippyPony said:
____________________________________

Night 3​

I was caught In the middle of a railroad track
I looked round And I knew there was no turning back
My mind raced And I thought what could I do
And I knew
There was no help, no help from you
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People are thinking since Coffee took all the actions that night overall the possibility is low. IDK If sporty is right weirder things have happened. I'm willing to pursue it otherwise.
 
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