WWings of WWonder Game Thread

[finnickthedog]

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I never corroborated I was attacked twice. In fact, I am pretty sure several times I said I only believed I was attacked n2. Can you point me to where you got that idea?
Afaik, I was only attacked once. I have no idea if wolves tried to attack me again. I have no evidence they did, besides the words of a dying wolf.

meh I'm on my phone and this is annoying but whatever

N2 results:
As you were flying away, someone nasty looking went chase after you, but you were already too far gone!
N3 Results:
As you were flying away, you saw some people chasing after you... Geeze, you're popular.

You have been insisting that your N2 results mean you were the NK target.

You N2 and N3 results are essentially the same (albeit not verbatim). You were flying away, someone was chasing after you. I'm not sure how you can insist that N2 was an attack but say that N3 wasn't and claim you were only attacked once.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Because they killed her over mutts?
A little, though they probably figured mutts would be protected.

Or me, as the more vocal of the pair. Unless they didn't pick up on the mason thing and thought Dolph may be a protector and that's why I was defending her?

This gives you more village points, btw. Wifom as they may be

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

You have been insisting that your N2 results mean you were the NK target.

You N2 and N3 results are essentially the same (albeit not verbatim). You were flying away, someone was chasing after you. I'm not sure how you can insist that N2 was an attack but say that N3 wasn't and claim you were only attacked once.

n2 said someone nasty, n3 didn't. n2 there was no NK. no one else claims their protection was needed. n3 there was a NK. n3 I know of other people who targeted me who my night results could be talking about and they weren't nasty.

Also to those wishing for a powwow last night you weren't nasty so you're cool in my book 😀

also I won't be on at close as I'm going to a movie

I said this after n3

 

[WildZoo]

Probably finn or allie today for me. I'm getting into too much WIFOM with lupes. Maybe suspicious that she's been off target all game and that isn't too normal for her iirc, but then again this is a whole new group of people. I don't trust that I would pick up anything unusual about her in PM, I don't know if there's anything I can point to that is a definite "Ah she is village!" at this point, so more of a neutral read than anything else, as terrible as that is at this stage in the game.

 

[Barkley13]

You N2 and N3 results are essentially the same (albeit not verbatim). You were flying away, someone was chasing after you. I'm not sure how you can insist that N2 was an attack but say that N3 wasn't and claim you were only attacked once.

Sounds like the N3 results didn’t specify someone nasty too because there were multiple people chasing her

 

[SARdoghandler]

lynch allie

 

[finnickthedog]

n2 said someone nasty, n3 didn't. n2 there was no NK. no one else claims their protection was needed. n3 there was a NK. n3 I know of other people who targeted me who my night results could be talking about and they weren't nasty.

Well, you asked where I got the idea that you corroborated and that was where. I guess I have a different interpretation of the similarity of those results than you do.

That said, even if you were attacked once, I still had the same reasons for thinking that something was very off with you and that you are unlikely to be a villager. The twice aspect just made it worse--which incidentally is what convinced me there is no way you're a wolf. Because I can't fathom the wolves deciding to claim you were attacked twice when I was already looking at you sideways for claiming attacked once.

 

[WildZoo]

Keep in mind mods aren't always consistent with how they report results. See: moose and mutts getting slightly different messages for protection.

I'm actually concerned about something else for n...5? Whenever genny and paws both died. There was no mention of AM having an extra kill, just that she was a strongarm (which...didn't work on ziggy? eh?). So how did two kills happen?

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Keep in mind mods aren't always consistent with how they report results. See: moose and mutts getting slightly different messages for protection.

I'm actually concerned about something else for n...5? Whenever genny and paws both died. There was no mention of AM having an extra kill, just that she was a strongarm (which...didn't work on ziggy? eh?). So how did two kills happen?

I brought this up earlier. Not sure if there was another block or possible conversion.

 

[WildZoo]

Taking out the clear people, the quick vote progression leaves lupin and finn. Based on this and the overlap with AM's reads, plus the fact that I don't think she ever mentioned finn prior to yesterday (will look back though), I'm going to go with
lynch finn

Spoiler: Quick AM votes

###lynch AM###
You killed genny

Lynch AM

*****lynch AM*****

Haha. No wonder this game has been screwy.

lynch am

unlynch ziggy
lynch AM

 

[WildZoo]

I brought this up earlier. Not sure if there was another block or possible conversion.

Oh I must have missed it. Catching up in reverse for some reason lol

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Not offended by a Finn vote and am Ok going there today. Does anyone know if Allie ever revealed anything?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Keep in mind mods aren't always consistent with how they report results. See: moose and mutts getting slightly different messages for protection.

I'm actually concerned about something else for n...5? Whenever genny and paws both died. There was no mention of AM having an extra kill, just that she was a strongarm (which...didn't work on ziggy? eh?). So how did two kills happen?

After she flipped I assumed a different wolf had an extra kill. No clue why they would wait so long to use it though. Like AM did the genny one and another wolf did the extra one.

I brought this up earlier. Not sure if there was another block or possible conversion.

Why would there be a conversion on a two night kill? I saw no mention of something similar

 

[WildZoo]

After she flipped I assumed a different wolf had an extra kill. No clue why they would wait so long to use it though. Like AM did the genny one and another wolf did the extra one.

That was my thought too. I'm suspicious it may have particular restrictions.

 

[Barkley13]

Not offended by a Finn vote and am Ok going there today. Does anyone know if Allie ever revealed anything?

I don’t believe so

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

That was my thought too. I'm suspicious it may have particular restrictions.

Uh oh I think I see where you're going

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

After she flipped I assumed a different wolf had an extra kill. No clue why they would wait so long to use it though. Like AM did the genny one and another wolf did the extra one.

Why would there be a conversion on a two night kill? I saw no mention of something similar

No the night that they attempted to kill you there was only one kill attempt that night (AM was one), while yesterday there were two kills (AM was one). So maybe N2 was possible conversion?

Edit: or the someone having an extra kill yesterday makes sense too. That’s probably the most logical.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Also does anyone else find that Dolph was a weird night kill?

I would have thought mutts. I wonder if she picked up any new info.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Uh oh I think I see where you're going

wait no I have no idea what did you mean @WildZoo

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Keep in mind mods aren't always consistent with how they report results. See: moose and mutts getting slightly different messages for protection.

I'm actually concerned about something else for n...5? Whenever genny and paws both died. There was no mention of AM having an extra kill, just that she was a strongarm (which...didn't work on ziggy? eh?). So how did two kills happen?

also we havent talked about why both of them were protected n2 when afaik every other night has only had 1 protection. I'm not convinced there are two protectors? but I could be wrong
also nav and I got different results for blocking but no one has been claimed to be blocked after nyanko died so I am not sure there is more than one blocker either

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

n2 protection: moose, mutts
n3: ?
n4: genny (if you believe AM)
n5: ?

n1: ?
n2 protection: moose, mutts
n3: mpm
n4: genny (if you believe AM)
n5: mutts
n6: dubs

blocking:
n1: me or shelter gone to me
n2: nav
since then, no one??

 

[kaydubs]

Day 7 Launch tally
Lupin (1) - ziggy
Allie (3) - Barks, miz, SAR
Finn (1) - DubZ

5/12

Deadline 9pm central

 

[WildZoo]

n6 protection was me

 

[WildZoo]

wait no I have no idea what did you mean @WildZoo

That's ok, not sure it needs to be discussed

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

went back and saw mpm also claimed n3
so looks like only 1 day with 2 protections. maybe a JOAT? no clue. I should stop with the mechanics lol

 

[Barkley13]

went back and saw mpm also claimed n3
so looks like only 1 day with 2 protections. maybe a JOAT? no clue. I should stop with the mechanics lol

JOAT might fit? Why did nav think there were 2 blockers? Was it just because of the wording?

 

[WildZoo]

What if there was confusion and one of those protections was actually n1

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

JOAT might fit? Why did nav think there were 2 blockers? Was it just because of the wording?

I think so, yeah


where are your reads at @AccidentFromFlorida @allieh8607 @Lupin21 @cubsrule4e

 

[WildZoo]

lupes said she'd be away most of the day because work. figure she'll post her reads when she gets back.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I think so, yeah


where are your reads at @AccidentFromFlorida @allieh8607 @Lupin21 @cubsrule4e

In my head while at work. Looking possibly at Afflac today

 

[finnickthedog]

Only one vote on me right now, but at least a couple other people saying they'd be okay with as far as I can tell so for the sake of not waiting until the end of the day here... A lot of the willingness to vote for me seems to come from me being kind of a question mark. Not really seeing much issues that people actually had with my play so not sure how I'm supposed to defend it. Dubz at least had the reasoning of disliking that I jumped on the AM vote but I've more or less explained why I did that, and it's not like I checked out of the thread after that. Anyways, @muttmanager should know what I was up to last night. Not sure if that will help at all.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Everyone else in the possibility of being OG:
dubs
lupin
finn
cubs
allie
mpm
florida

Thinking about things I feel better about dubs and finn just on tone and certain reasons (but have yet to hear from mutts today). I could be wrong about these two but eh.
I am just going based off the assumption there are 4 more wolves. I think the 4 are within this group then: lupin, cubs, allie, mpm, Florida. Think I feel the best about cubs from that list.

12 people.
4w, 8v.
if we mislynch + NK = 4w, 6v tomorrow and *ylo

 

[WildZoo]

Read through AM's posts/interactions, quoted some things below.

My takeaways:
Several soft defenses of allie and lupin
She did offer finn up as lynch that would provide the most info when paws asked (at least I think that's what she was saying?). I initially read that as her saying finn had good interactions = village read, but I think I read it wrong.
Kind of uncomfortable with what looks like finn & AM trying to bring up a zig lynch
I think it's kinda weird how quickly she picked out that I had accidentally left mpm off my reads list

So actually, gonna switch to allie, because I'd like to stick with that feel and it will also be good for illuminating yesterday's lynch situation.

Spoiler: Some Quotes

It'd tell me about his affiliation and the people who lynched/defended him. As for MJ, it'll happen when it happens. allie has actually been posting in mid-range more often than not lately making it easier to see where she at regarding reads and affiliation.

I'd still like to hear more about your Lawpy vote though.

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Lupin, never played with her before but leaning neutral village here.

You played with Lupin in Horses. Does that affect anything?

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@Animal Midwife what are your thoughts on shelter, skimble, and lupin?

Slightly wolfy, neutral, and slightly village, respectively.

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What if I answer everything in questions for 24 hours to make a point?

Obvs wolfy, she barely kept this up for an hour!
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How about mpm?

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Whose lynch would give us the most info?
@Animal Midwife @genny same question

From your list?

No in your opinion in general

I interested in seeing how Skim/bjeh is handled today so I know where to proceed, but I think finn has some decent interactions with different people. Not saying everyone has to vote for the hydra right now though.

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How are squawk people feeling squawk about allie squawk right now?

I have her at slight village.

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You are not. Two people are claiming protection. We still don't know what zig is claiming

And this doesn't concern anybody at all? Well, alright then.

I mean, it bugs me, but I don't want to be stuck alone on a vote for the remainder of this game.

 

[WildZoo]

unlynch finn lynch allie

 

[WildZoo]

Only one vote on me right now, but at least a couple other people saying they'd be okay with as far as I can tell so for the sake of not waiting until the end of the day here... A lot of the willingness to vote for me seems to come from me being kind of a question mark. Not really seeing much issues that people actually had with my play so not sure how I'm supposed to defend it. Dubz at least had the reasoning of disliking that I jumped on the AM vote but I've more or less explained why I did that, and it's not like I checked out of the thread after that. Anyways, @muttmanager should know what I was up to last night. Not sure if that will help at all.

You defend it by making yourself not a question mark lol At this stage in the game, especially with how it's been going, I think most people are down to their strong village reads vs the people they don't have anything on.

 

[Barkley13]

Everyone else in the possibility of being OG:
dubs
lupin
finn
cubs
allie
mpm
florida

Thinking about things I feel better about dubs and finn just on tone and certain reasons (but have yet to hear from mutts today). I could be wrong about these two but eh.
I am just going based off the assumption there are 4 more wolves. I think the 4 are within this group then: lupin, cubs, allie, mpm, Florida. Think I feel the best about cubs from that list.

12 people.
4w, 8v.
if we mislynch + NK = 4w, 6v tomorrow and *ylo

are you feeling okay about cubs because of his play or his role?

 

[WildZoo]

Also I have no particular issue with lupin based on the role she provided, the ability would be...eh, weird for a wolf IMO?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

are you feeling okay about cubs because of his play or his role?

his play. role names don't appear to be super AI here and I have no idea of the specific bird he is or what ability he has or doesn't have

Also I have no particular issue with lupin based on the role she provided, the ability would be...eh, weird for a wolf IMO?

I would tread very carefully with this line of thought... what ability did she claim if you wanna share with the class?

 

[Barkley13]

Anyways, @muttmanager should know what I was up to last night.

So AM definitely knew she was tracked then

 

[finnickthedog]

So AM definitely knew she was tracked then

Not what I was getting at, actually. I don't know if AM knew she was tracked.

 

[WildZoo]

Anyways, @muttmanager should know what I was up to last night. Not sure if that will help at all.

So AM definitely knew she was tracked then

Mutts is a watcher though, not a tracker.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

So AM definitely knew she was tracked then

?? pretty sure AM wasn't tracked. is that what mutts told you??

 

[WildZoo]

AM wouldn't have known mutts saw her now that I think about it, because mutts' action was on genny, not on AM

 

[WildZoo]

I would tread very carefully with this line of thought... what ability did she claim if you wanna share with the class?

No ****, always tread carefully with ability claims 😉 it may actually be one to test sooner rather than later, I haven't decided yet, but I'm not going to out it without her permission today

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

AM wouldn't have known mutts saw her now that I think about it, because mutts' action was on genny, not on AM

OooHHooo the plot (or sauce) thickens!! 😱

I think this could change how I feel about early voting (and cubs + finn for that matter) but I am unsure
cubs confusion now seems more wolfy
finn being on AM's list now seems more villagey

 

[WildZoo]

I wanted to ask her a question about it but we can't chat today so will wait to see if she wants to share with barks and then ask through her

 

[Barkley13]

Mutts is a watcher though, not a tracker.

?? pretty sure AM wasn't tracked. is that what mutts told you??

I meant watched

 

[WildZoo]

OooHHooo the plot (or sauce) thickens!! 😱

@Lawper softly approves

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Is there a watcher and a tracker? I got squinted at the other night.

 

[WildZoo]

Is there a watcher and a tracker? I got squinted at the other night.

That was me. I am neither.
Wouldn't usually say it but my dumb ass told AM I was the one who squinted at her n3 so here we are.