2013-2014 University of Hawaii Application Thread

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Honestly curious why this school charges so much to look at your application.
 
Mt Kilimanjaro said:
Honestly curious why this school charges so much to look at your application.
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Same reason why they charge instate Hawaii residents the OOS rate of 65K if they haven't lived in Hawaii for the full year prior to matriculation.

Instate for application purposes, OOS for tuition purposes. Yeah.
 
volcomx said:
Same reason why they charge instate Hawaii residents the OOS rate of 65K if they haven't lived in Hawaii for the full year prior to matriculation.

Instate for application purposes, OOS for tuition purposes. Yeah.
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I heard about this. Do they charge OOS (to "in-staters") for all 4 years or just one year then in-state for 3 years?
 
synth said:
I'd like to know this also.
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All 4 years, I believe. Their reasoning is that they really prefer in-state people for the purpose of educating doctors that will stay and practice in Hawaii, and are willing to provide education to those that have a high chance of doing so at a significantly lower rate. Those that have already left the island for UG purposes are much more likely to do so again after obtaining their MD.
 
Secondary received!
 
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Just received an interview invite via email! OOS. seems like a fairly involved process
 
LiveLoveLearn said:
All 4 years, I believe. Their reasoning is that they really prefer in-state people for the purpose of educating doctors that will stay and practice in Hawaii, and are willing to provide education to those that have a high chance of doing so at a significantly lower rate. Those that have already left the island for UG purposes are much more likely to do so again after obtaining their MD.
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Wow. Is this really true?
 
II a couple days ago. OOS also
 
From what I understand, it's not true. Because there are only 2-3 colleges in Hawaii, I hardly think they expect their applicants to have done their undergrad in Hawaii. Many of my friends at JABSOM are from Hawaii (went to high school here and parents live here) but went to school elsewhere and have never said anything about being charged out of state tuition. I think the year in Hawaii prior to matriculation is a requirement if you don't meet the other requirements.

From their website:
To determine status as a 'resident' or 'nonresident' for application purposes to the University of Hawai'i John A. Burns School of Medicine, an applicant is scored on the following six criteria on the Residency Screen: 1) legal residence of the applicant, 2) legal residence of the applicant's parents, 3) birthplace, 4) location of high school graduated, 5) location of college or university attended (degree not required) and 6) Legacy - parent/legal guardian is a JABSOM faculty member (FTE 50% or >) or JABSOM graduate. The information will be accessed from the applicant's AMCAS application. An applicant is required to have a minimum of three out of the six criteria indicating ties to the State of Hawai'i to be considered a 'resident' for application purposes. An applicant who has less than the minimum three points will be considered a 'nonresident' for application purposes. The Residency Screen is not to eliminate an applicant at this stage of the application process. The screen is used to determine whether an applicant proceeding to the Secondary/Academic Screen is a 'resident' or 'nonresident'.
 
erblee said:
From what I understand, it's not true. Because there are only 2-3 colleges in Hawaii, I hardly think they expect their applicants to have done their undergrad in Hawaii. Many of my friends at JABSOM are from Hawaii (went to high school here and parents live here) but went to school elsewhere and have never said anything about being charged out of state tuition. I think the year in Hawaii prior to matriculation is a requirement if you don't meet the other requirements.

From their website:
To determine status as a 'resident' or 'nonresident' for application purposes to the University of Hawai'i John A. Burns School of Medicine, an applicant is scored on the following six criteria on the Residency Screen: 1) legal residence of the applicant, 2) legal residence of the applicant's parents, 3) birthplace, 4) location of high school graduated, 5) location of college or university attended (degree not required) and 6) Legacy - parent/legal guardian is a JABSOM faculty member (FTE 50% or >) or JABSOM graduate. The information will be accessed from the applicant's AMCAS application. An applicant is required to have a minimum of three out of the six criteria indicating ties to the State of Hawai'i to be considered a 'resident' for application purposes. An applicant who has less than the minimum three points will be considered a 'nonresident' for application purposes. The Residency Screen is not to eliminate an applicant at this stage of the application process. The screen is used to determine whether an applicant proceeding to the Secondary/Academic Screen is a 'resident' or 'nonresident'.
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I hope that isn't the case -- that if you're in-state but haven't been living in HI for a year up until matriculation that you are charged OOS for all four years. I can understand one year but charging OOS for all four years is really unfortunate. I hope we can get some more clarification on this.

For example: I meet 4/6 of the in-state criteria but since I'm doing a postbac on the mainland I don't qualify for the 5th residency point because I haven't been living on the island for a while now. I still am registered to vote and I still have a HI driver's license. If I do get in that would suck for me (local as you can get) to have to pay OOS for all four years.
 
Received my first II!

secondary received: 07/25
secondary completed and sent: 08/05
invite e-mail: 08/06

I'm an international applicant btw.
 
this might be dumb question... but do you send back essay questions + prerequisite form via email? or fedex?😕😕
 
A. Describe succinctly the important experience(s) in your life which began the process
that motivated you to enter the career of medicine. (Please Type)

B. Please explain why you are applying to the University of Hawaii John A. Burns School
of Medicine. (Please Type)

There isn't a character limit, but the answers need to fit in a pre-created text box in a pdf file. It's about 3/4 of a page in length.
 
nnguyen9 said:
A. Describe succinctly the important experience(s) in your life which began the process
that motivated you to enter the career of medicine. (Please Type)

B. Please explain why you are applying to the University of Hawaii John A. Burns School
of Medicine. (Please Type)

There isn't a character limit, but the answers need to fit in a pre-created text box in a pdf file. It's about 3/4 of a page in length.
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Thanks!
 
Hello all -

I've been delaying this application for some time due to the application fee and my MCAT score. I would really like a chance at Hawaii, but fear with my score I may just be throwing money away. The MSAR shows the 10th percentile of scores is 25, but does anybody know of any OOS applicants with this low of a score that got accepted or invited to interview?

My MCAT is 27 🙁 (PS 8, VR 10, BS 9).
cGPA: 3.53
sGPA: 3.75
Any thoughts on my chances?

Thanks for any help!
 
Thrillhouse said:
Hello all -

I've been delaying this application for some time due to the application fee and my MCAT score. I would really like a chance at Hawaii, but fear with my score I may just be throwing money away. The MSAR shows the 10th percentile of scores is 25, but does anybody know of any OOS applicants with this low of a score that got accepted or invited to interview?

My MCAT is 27 🙁 (PS 8, VR 10, BS 9).
cGPA: 3.53
sGPA: 3.75
Any thoughts on my chances?

Thanks for any help!
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They do a point system. You get points for high gpa, I think 3.8+, MCAT subsections above 11, PhD holders, points for each category in your activity section (Dean's list, shadowing, volunteering, etc). The bar is set extremely high for OOS, which is why they only interview a handful out of their 1000 applicants (they only have 8 OOS spots). Unless you have incredible ECs, I'm fairly certain you are out of the running.
 
volcomx said:
They do a point system. You get points for high gpa, I think 3.8+, MCAT subsections above 11, PhD holders, points for each category in your activity section (Dean's list, shadowing, volunteering, etc). The bar is set extremely high for OOS, which is why they only interview a handful out of their 1000 applicants (they only have 8 OOS spots). Unless you have incredible ECs, I'm fairly certain you are out of the running.
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1-1/2 years needle exchange
2 years free clinic
2-1/2 years research (nothing published yet, still working on it)
Presidents honor roll x6 (GPA is low due to a very bad freshman year).

Maybe a shot?
 
Thrillhouse said:
1-1/2 years needle exchange
2 years free clinic
2-1/2 years research (nothing published yet, still working on it)
Presidents honor roll x6 (GPA is low due to a very bad freshman year).

Maybe a shot?
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I can't be the one to tell you that you have no shot - that's up to the adcoms to decide. The secondary application costs $150. Personally, I think that money would better be used on more feasible applications, but if Hawaii is your dream school, you'll never get in if you don't try.
 
volcomx said:
I can't be the one to tell you that you have no shot - that's up to the adcoms to decide. The secondary application costs $150. Personally, I think that money would better be used on more feasible applications, but if Hawaii is your dream school, you'll never get in if you don't try.
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Right, I understand I just wanted some other feedback. Thanks for your help!
 
Thrillhouse said:
Right, I understand I just wanted some other feedback. Thanks for your help!
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I'd recommend against it as OOS. It's very expensive, and the GPA and MCAT are worth a very high amount of points in comparison to ECs for JABSOM.
 
Interview invite yesterday! But I'm not even sure if its worth interviewing, seeing as how crazy high the out of state tuition is.
 
nam7 said:
Received my first II!

secondary received: 07/25
secondary completed and sent: 08/05
invite e-mail: 08/06

I'm an international applicant btw.
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Hi Nam7, Congrats on the interview offer from Hawaii!
Can you pls elaborate on your international status situation and how likely it is to get into US medical schools. I am an international applicant too and I am applying to Univ of Hawaii as well. Do international students have a less chance of interview offer than US citizens or residents? Thanks for your thoughts!
 
For anyone who received a secondary, can you comment on how long the screening process took? Specifically the time between confirmation of the payment and the emailed results of the screening process?

Thanks in advance!
 
nam7 said:
Received my first II!

secondary received: 07/25
secondary completed and sent: 08/05
invite e-mail: 08/06

I'm an international applicant btw.
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Congrats on your interview!! When is it? Mine is scheduled for November 7/8
 
Ok---what? Just browsing through, but $150 before a pre-secondary screen? Money-grab much?! Sounds unethical, honestly. Especially given the pretty ridiculous in-state residency qualifications....
 
lall said:
Ok---what? Just browsing through, but $150 before a pre-secondary screen? Money-grab much?! Sounds unethical, honestly. Especially given the pretty ridiculous in-state residency qualifications....
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Well to be fair, if you pass the screen the secondary is free. So it's really not much different than most other schools.
 
Gotcha. Yes, definitely better. 150 is still the steepest secondary I've seen
 
lall said:
Gotcha. Yes, definitely better. 150 is still the steepest secondary I've seen
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Yeah I know there are a few schools that are 125 (Tulane, who promptly rejected me... Grr). I would guess its high because they get such a low amount of applicants, and many of their applicants don't apply to many other schools.
 
Hey everyone! I'm new to this forum, but very interested in attending school in Hawaii. I'm an in-state applicant that was a little late in turning in my apps. I was wondering how long it took for people to hear back for interviews? I submitted my secondary stuff a few weeks ago, and I'm wondering if perhaps I was denied? If anyone could provide any help that'd be great. Thanks!
 
TuttyHawaiiMD said:
Hey everyone! I'm new to this forum, but very interested in attending school in Hawaii. I'm an in-state applicant that was a little late in turning in my apps. I was wondering how long it took for people to hear back for interviews? I submitted my secondary stuff a few weeks ago, and I'm wondering if perhaps I was denied? If anyone could provide any help that'd be great. Thanks!
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Hello! It took about two weeks from the time my secondary stuff was received for me to get an interview invite.
 
Withdrew from my interview here today. Hope it goes to an sdner!
 
I thought they would accept exceptionally qualified applicants first?

Not that I'm hoping, I am oos
 
Does anyone know exactly how the waiting/acceptance process works with a school that starts in July like JABSOM? I am curious because I'm still waiting to hear back from my state school and may be waitlisted and am curious what would happen if I was accepted here but still waitlisting somewhere else?
 
accepted january 14, considered in state for admissions purposes, but out of state for tuition purposes
 
Wow congrats! According to their website I guess you'd be exceptionally qualified.

I hate this wait 🙁
 
By looking at previous years' posts... I think the decisions will be released on March 24th (Monday after Match day)
 
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Ah okay, so about 3 or so weeks! Have people already gotten accepted? I saw one post, but I thought all were going to be around the same time.
 
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