2011-2012 Drexel Application Thread

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Thanks for the info!

About the cost. Some people in last year's thread mentioned things like "small heart attack" and "stroke" when opening up their financial aid letter. Drexel does have a rep as one of the most expensive schools in the country. Can you please give me some concrete figures your classmates will owe?

Research. If you have to apply to get funding, how many students pursue that and are most successful?

STEP I study time...good to know, that would seem like plenty.


1. Drexel does give out merit scholarships. You're probably going to have a lot of loans no matter where you go unless you stay at your state school, and even those are getting expensive.

2. There are research opportunities here, but if there's nothing you're particularly interested in at Drexel, there are tons of other med schools in the area. You can get funding from Drexel if your project is here - don't know how competitive the application process is - but there's also other funding options available if you're interested in certain specialties via professional groups.

3. Time to study for STEP 1 depends on your curriculum. We were told about 10 weeks for PIL and 6-8 for IFM. Don't worry about STEP 1 too much right now - it seems like a lot of schools have around 6-8 weeks and that that's usually enough. If you're focused on competitive specialties like ENT, you might want to consider the structure of clinical years and if you can maximize your exposure/build good relationships in the specialty you're aiming for.
 
Thanks for the info!

About the cost. Some people in last year's thread mentioned things like "small heart attack" and "stroke" when opening up their financial aid letter. Drexel does have a rep as one of the most expensive schools in the country. Can you please give me some concrete figures your classmates will owe?

Research. If you have to apply to get funding, how many students pursue that and are most successful?

STEP I study time...good to know, that would seem like plenty.

Everyone's case is different so I can't give you concrete figures unfortunately. Here is the page with all of our cost estimates: http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Admissions/MDProgram/TuitionandFinancialAid.aspx

Drexel is on the expensive side. There are lots of schools that are in the same range, most of the private schools are really. Tufts is one that also comes to mind. Most large public schools that take a lot of OOS students (I'm thinking of Illinois schools, MCW, etc.) are in the same boat if you're talking OOS costs - you can wind up with near 60K in tuition alone. FWIW, I'm glad I wound up here regardless of the cost, the program is a great fit for me.

Financial aid varies by year, and depend on how much of the year you're in school for as well as any extra professional expenditures you may have (e.g. paying for the STEP.)

I don't know the answer to your question about the research funding, but the Career Development Center is probably where you want to start, along with the med student research page.

http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/cdc/
http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Research/OfficeofMedicalStudentResearch.aspx
 
Just got off the phone with admissions. At least they validated my concerns that my decision was taking too long. They didn't know what the hold up was though, and they said they would try to push it through as soon as possible. Drexel is my top choice school and sitting with this "with a member of the committee" status for 10 weeks is nerve wrecking! Come on Drexel! Show me some love!
 
Everyone's case is different so I can't give you concrete figures unfortunately. Here is the page with all of our cost estimates: http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Admissions/MDProgram/TuitionandFinancialAid.aspx

Drexel is on the expensive side. There are lots of schools that are in the same range, most of the private schools are really. Tufts is one that also comes to mind. Most large public schools that take a lot of OOS students (I'm thinking of Illinois schools, MCW, etc.) are in the same boat if you're talking OOS costs - you can wind up with near 60K in tuition alone. FWIW, I'm glad I wound up here regardless of the cost, the program is a great fit for me.

Financial aid varies by year, and depend on how much of the year you're in school for as well as any extra professional expenditures you may have (e.g. paying for the STEP.)

I don't know the answer to your question about the research funding, but the Career Development Center is probably where you want to start, along with the med student research page.

http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/cdc/
http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Research/OfficeofMedicalStudentResearch.aspx

I was looking at UIC's tuition and expenses today for OOS.. 95K a year for 4 years!!!! you have got to be kidding me.
 
Everyone's case is different so I can't give you concrete figures unfortunately. Here is the page with all of our cost estimates: http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Admissions/MDProgram/TuitionandFinancialAid.aspx

Drexel is on the expensive side. There are lots of schools that are in the same range, most of the private schools are really. Tufts is one that also comes to mind. Most large public schools that take a lot of OOS students (I'm thinking of Illinois schools, MCW, etc.) are in the same boat if you're talking OOS costs - you can wind up with near 60K in tuition alone. FWIW, I'm glad I wound up here regardless of the cost, the program is a great fit for me.

Financial aid varies by year, and depend on how much of the year you're in school for as well as any extra professional expenditures you may have (e.g. paying for the STEP.)

I don't know the answer to your question about the research funding, but the Career Development Center is probably where you want to start, along with the med student research page.

http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/cdc/
http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Research/OfficeofMedicalStudentResearch.aspx


Hey courtnes, could you tell us more about what you like about your Drexel experience? Also, I know the curriculum is graded H, HP, P,F, etc....Does this stress you out alot? Does this make the students competitive, and not as cooperative?
 
thanks for responding! I am looking to drive. Is there a parking lot for students on campus??

If you know good neighborhood that has public transportation, that would be great too, as i'm concerned it will snow, and the roads won't be drivable. so it's good to have a backup case.

Maybe my max price range will be 900-1000? Is this too low? I'm not from Philly or pennsylvania, so im not too aware of cost-of living and geography.

Yeah it will be really tough to get a house for that price unless you go in on with it with some roommates. I moved across the river to Jersey and for $1200 I have a full house w/ yard etc.

Here's a few examples:

Roxborough (5 mins)
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/apa/2749217992.html
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/apa/2756650761.html

Ridley. This place is ~30 mins from the preclinical building, closer to center city.
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/apa/2713025636.html

Upper Darby, 20 mins from preclinical (maybe more with traffic)
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/apa/2760827004.html ($1500)
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/apa/2730606672.html ($825)

Ardmore (20 mins)
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/apa/2760042549.html

If you venture across the river there is a convenient train that takes you to Philly (PATCO) but this isn't at all useful for the preclinical years. While it is a short distance (20 mins in the middle of the night?) the traffic will make this commute a bear.

Collingswood, Cherry Hill, and Voorhees would be fun areas, though.
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/apa/2739033084.html (Collingswood)
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/apa/2685409016.html

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/apa/2750199480.html (Cherry Hill)
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/apa/2740675059.html

Hope that helps!
 
Thanks for the info!

About the cost. Some people in last year's thread mentioned things like "small heart attack" and "stroke" when opening up their financial aid letter. Drexel does have a rep as one of the most expensive schools in the country. Can you please give me some concrete figures your classmates will owe?

Research. If you have to apply to get funding, how many students pursue that and are most successful?

STEP I study time...good to know, that would seem like plenty.

Drexel was cited in the NEJM for having the highest average debt/student out of any private school in the country. We graduate on average with $182,000 of debt (my question is, though, who is ONLY graduating with $182k of debt? :laugh:)

http://www.mygapcom.com/wp-content/...cle-on-the-limits-of-medical-student-debt.pdf

Hopefully with the "work 10 years at a nonprofit and have your loans forgiven" law, this won't be too big of a problem.
 
Hey courtnes, could you tell us more about what you like about your Drexel experience? Also, I know the curriculum is graded H, HP, P,F, etc....Does this stress you out alot? Does this make the students competitive, and not as cooperative?

The H/HP/etc grading system doesn't really pit anyone against one another because your grade (usually) is determined based off of the %score you get. If everyone in the class got a 90% everyone would get honors. This really eliminates the competition among students.

I would say what was sort of frustrating (and in the long run didn't really matter) is that there is a large chunk of your classmates who will have already taken the exact same courses (and had the exact same exams) previously. The post-bacc program (IMS) that Drexel offers essentially lets students take the first (two if they want the masters degree) year(s) of medical school before actually matriculating in. People literally would walk out of exams and say to themselves "wow, not a single question changed from last year!"

That wasn't true of all classes (and they don't take every class) but it did frustrate me at the time. For that reason alone you really can't worry about what other people are doing and just focus on your own studies.
 
Hey courtnes, could you tell us more about what you like about your Drexel experience? Also, I know the curriculum is graded H, HP, P,F, etc....Does this stress you out alot? Does this make the students competitive, and not as cooperative?

I'd agree with xanthomondo, since our grades aren't curved, you're wholly responsible for your grade. You can go P=MD or you can work your behind off to try to push for honors. I'm in PIL, so people will joke about a certain amount of kool-aid drinking, but my class is almost collaborative to a fault and we go out of our way to share resources. I've seen the same thing among the IFMers too.

Things that I like about Drexel/PIL:
-administration is very responsive to questions/concerns
-you have your choice of lecture-based or PBL curriculum
-my classmates (I haven't encountered any gunners)
-PIL curriculum keeps me on top of my work, I'd procrastinate so bad if I didn't have to keep up to contribute to case discussions
-we still get a fair amount of "lecture" even though we're PBL
-PIL forces me out of my comfort zone in terms of presenting to small group regularly
-we get to focus on a small number of subjects at a time, so we have to review information from previous classes to integrate it each new block
-lots of clinical practice, start learning H&Ps first year in PIL
-very active student groups, especially local clinics

There are other things, but these are the big ones that come to mind.
 
I'd agree with xanthomondo, since our grades aren't curved, you're wholly responsible for your grade. You can go P=MD or you can work your behind off to try to push for honors. I'm in PIL, so people will joke about a certain amount of kool-aid drinking, but my class is almost collaborative to a fault and we go out of our way to share resources. I've seen the same thing among the IFMers too.

Things that I like about Drexel/PIL:
-administration is very responsive to questions/concerns
-you have your choice of lecture-based or PBL curriculum
-my classmates (I haven't encountered any gunners)
-PIL curriculum keeps me on top of my work, I'd procrastinate so bad if I didn't have to keep up to contribute to case discussions
-we still get a fair amount of "lecture" even though we're PBL
-PIL forces me out of my comfort zone in terms of presenting to small group regularly
-we get to focus on a small number of subjects at a time, so we have to review information from previous classes to integrate it each new block
-lots of clinical practice, start learning H&Ps first year in PIL
-very active student groups, especially local clinics

There are other things, but these are the big ones that come to mind.


Is there anything you comment on on the IFM curriculum I would really appreciate it...and thanks for your previous posts!
 
Is there anything you comment on on the IFM curriculum I would really appreciate it...and thanks for your previous posts!
You're welcome! You're better off talking to an IFMer for info about their curriculum - we're not really supposed to speak to the curriculum we're not in. What I can tell you with some confidence is that they have more lecture than we do (since they don't have 9 hours of small group a week), have symptom/sign-based modules that involve taking the appropriate parts of several classes at once, and have more frequent exams than we do that are all MCQ (while PIL has some short essays.) Obviously things work very differently between the two and I don't want to give you any wrong info.

I think some of the other current students that pop in are/were in the IFM program, it wouldn't hurt to PM them if you have specific questions.
 
Everyone's case is different so I can't give you concrete figures unfortunately. Here is the page with all of our cost estimates: http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Admissions/MDProgram/TuitionandFinancialAid.aspx

Drexel is on the expensive side. There are lots of schools that are in the same range, most of the private schools are really. Tufts is one that also comes to mind. Most large public schools that take a lot of OOS students (I'm thinking of Illinois schools, MCW, etc.) are in the same boat if you're talking OOS costs - you can wind up with near 60K in tuition alone. FWIW, I'm glad I wound up here regardless of the cost, the program is a great fit for me.

Financial aid varies by year, and depend on how much of the year you're in school for as well as any extra professional expenditures you may have (e.g. paying for the STEP.)

I don't know the answer to your question about the research funding, but the Career Development Center is probably where you want to start, along with the med student research page.

http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/cdc/
http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Research/OfficeofMedicalStudentResearch.aspx

Thank you for the information! I'm looking forward to finding out more on my interview day.
 
Thanks xanthomides and courtnes for all the useful information!

I do have a question about PIL. I've always been more used to the lecture based curriculum in IFM, and it doesn't seem as demanding as the PIL Although the idea of communicating with colleagues and problem solving together seem like valuebile skills to build. I was wonderinf for PIL, how do you guys learn new medical science? So without lectures, are you basically told which chapters in the textbook to read as a substitute for lectures?
 
Is there anything you comment on on the IFM curriculum I would really appreciate it...and thanks for your previous posts!

I did IFM curriculum (I'm MS4). My personality would never mesh well enough to be able to sit in a room full of other medical students and learn together :laugh:

IFM, though, has its pros and cons. Lectures typically were held from 8/9-4/5pm. Often they would only go until 12 because there were afternoon activities (ie Physician and Patient course where you had to go to the hospital, or Geriatric experience where you had to go visit an elderly person, anatomy lab, biochemistry conferences, etc).

Lectures can be pretty hit or miss. We have some lecturers that are absolutely golden and some that you probably won't even watch on the computer. In the beginning most people go to lecture. This lasts for about a week. I thought that I was going to be one of those people who would be attending every lecture but eventually I got fed up with a string of really bad lectures and just stopped coming (plus it was nice to wake up at 10 or 11am 😉.

Here is the MS1 exam schedule:

examschedule.jpg


This is probably the worst thing about IFM. You'll see that you're always studying in cram mode for some upcoming exam/practical/quiz. Often we would have an exam and I would go literally straight from the exam room to the library to start studying for the next one. Since we don't do blocks of courses (rather we do symptoms-based) you'll see finals in the middle of the year because once a class is finished you take the final immediately. So while it's nice to get them out of the way they're not fun to have to study for right after taking module exams.
 
Thanks xanthomides and courtnes for all the useful information!

I do have a question about PIL. I've always been more used to the lecture based curriculum in IFM, and it doesn't seem as demanding as the PIL Although the idea of communicating with colleagues and problem solving together seem like valuebile skills to build. I was wonderinf for PIL, how do you guys learn new medical science? So without lectures, are you basically told which chapters in the textbook to read as a substitute for lectures?

The biggest secret about PIL (and even the PIL kids aren't aware) is that they DO have lectures. They just call them "resource sessions" so no one realizes it :laugh:

Maybe Courtnes will share her exam schedule for PIL. I tried to go into the PIL page but I was denied "you are not an active PIL user"....such an exclusive club; they even have their own secret room lol
 
The biggest secret about PIL (and even the PIL kids aren't aware) is that they DO have lectures. They just call them "resource sessions" so no one realizes it :laugh:

Maybe Courtnes will share her exam schedule for PIL. I tried to go into the PIL page but I was denied "you are not an active PIL user"....such an exclusive club; they even have their own secret room lol
LOL, xantho! orange - xantho's right, we do have lectures. yes, we call them resource sessions, a lot of people go regularly and it's highly encouraged that we ask questions and make them interactive - but when push comes to shove, they are lectures. i think i said elsewhere that i really like how Drexel does PBL because we have a good mix of small group and lecture (9 hours and 20ish hours a week, respectively) unlike other PBL programs where you get maybe 6 hours of lecture and a lot of BS required classes that take up time you could be studying. there are suggested textbooks, and even occasionally readings, but most everything you need is in the notes and you refer to textbooks if there are concepts you're not 100% on.

As far as exam schedule, it's super variable.

Block I - gross and microanatomy - 1 quiz toward the beginning of the year, midterm at 6 weeks, final at 12 weeks. full exams were 8 hours of testing spread out over two days.
Block II - neuro and physiology - taught as separate courses, tests every two weeks or so with breaks mixed in. exams were ~4-5 hours long.

That's all we've done so far, at the end of this block we also start to do IPAs along with finals, where you basically work through a case on your own and present it to the faculty. Block III we're looking at Biochem, Genetics, Immuno/micro and I don't know what the exams will looks like, and Block IV is our primary care practicum and community health experience.
 
Rejected after waiting A WEEK for the letter to get to DC. Grr. Good luck everyone!
 
Rejected after waiting A WEEK for the letter to get to DC. Grr. Good luck everyone!

🙁 Sorry to hear that R1MD. I was really rooting for you, but don't get discouraged! I am sure you that there are many acceptances waiting for you down the road! Best of luck! :luck:
 
I'm sorry to hear that! Sort of the same thing happened to me, but pre-interview at VCU. Couldn't get a letter in on time. At least you will be a doctor! Congrats on your 2 acceptances so far!!! I am still waiting on my first II.

Rejected after waiting A WEEK for the letter to get to DC. Grr. Good luck everyone!
 
Rejected after waiting A WEEK for the letter to get to DC. Grr. Good luck everyone!

In the same boat R1. My experience there wasn't great - so wasn't a surprise for me. Looks like you have some other good options already, and will likely get more. Best of luck to you!
 
If you make it to the interview stage, MCAT score is pretty much irrelevant IMO.

I see. I think you are right.

Can I ask you how your MCW interview was? Especially compared to the drexel interview.
 
Interview invite today! The first available time wasn't until 2/14 though 🙁. So how are Drexel's interviews? I interviewed at Temple a month or so ago and it was 1 faculty member (open file) and 1 student (closed file).
 
Anyone with a decision/final decision from 12/15-12/16 get anything in the mail yet? Wondering if they will send letters out after the holidays or if people in the Philadelphia area got letters/packets today.
 
I got an interview this morning (complete 11/29) but I'm 97% sure I'm going to withdraw my application for a few reasons. Hopefully, that spot goes to one of the peeps waiting. Good luck to everyone!
 
I interviewed here a while ago.

I found the director of admissions Mrs. Kennedy to be quite rude and the entire affair to be disorganized. Most of the applicants spent the majority of the time sitting in a meeting room talking to eachother.

Left on our own we discovered previous year books, the oldest of which was from 1970 Hahnemann Medical College. We were told that Hahnemann and the Woman's Medical College of Pennsylvania merged that year to form what would become Drexel. Drexel itself seemed to be very proud of their connection to women's education and rights.

We found this photo in their yearbook. Politically correct? No. Funny? Hell yes!

drexeldoc.jpg
 
I interviewed here a while ago.

I found the director of admissions Mrs. Kennedy to be quite rude and the entire affair to be disorganized. Most of the applicants spent the majority of the time sitting in a meeting room talking to eachother.

Left on our own we discovered previous year books, the oldest of which was from 1970 Hahnemann Medical College. We were told that Hahnemann and the Woman's Medical College of Pennsylvania merged that year to form what would become Drexel. Drexel itself seemed to be very proud of their connection to women's education and rights.

We found this photo in their yearbook. Politically correct? No. Funny? Hell yes!

drexeldoc.jpg

this dude was THE MAN

and still contributed : )
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bjs.1800530237/abstract

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/164/12/1310.abstract

making philly proud
 
I see. I think you are right.

Can I ask you how your MCW interview was? Especially compared to the drexel interview.

Sure thing, but with a disclaimer: These are only my personal experiences, and I'm sure they vary greatly between others' experiences. I enjoyed my time visiting both schools, but I'm sure that as others can attest - there are some schools that just feel like a better 'fit', as is the case here. I don't want people to misconstrue my response as being bitter from my Drexel rejection, I am only trying to share my personal experience.

At Drexel I was sick the day of the interview, so I'm sure that didn't help my presentation any. I was in the group that had to travel via shuttle to the city center for an early interview, and as a result I was unable to tour the campus. I was a bit disappointed with the interview overall, mostly because it was supposed to be an open file interview - mine was not. Minutes into the interview, my interviewer told me that they had 'not' reviewed my file, so instead of a more 'getting to know you' type of conversation, we spent most of the time discussing things that were already in my file. I imagine this is not typical, so much of this probably won't apply to you or anyone else. I found the student interview to be pleasant and cordial, but it also made me a bit leary as many of the interviewers were first year medical students with only about 8 weeks of medical school under their belts.

MCW was a bit different. There were many more of us interviewing (60-70 ish), and each of us had two open file interviews - one with a physician, and another with a medical student (3rd year in my case). I think that this was pretty standard for the group. In my case, it seemed like MCW really reviewed my file thoroughly, and along with some standard interview questions they asked a lot of non-typical questions that really allowed me to highlight myself as a person. I got the impression that they were more interested in who I was as a person, rather than my numbers or accomplishments. The interview process also seemed to be a lot more organized, which relieved much stress.

The students at both schools were very pleasant and forthcoming, and were more than willing to answer all the questions that I had. Now for the most important part: the food was decent at both places, however those MCW cupcakes are hard to beat! :laugh:

Good luck to you, and best wishes to everyone attending Drexel this coming year! 🙂
 
Rejected after waiting A WEEK for the letter to get to DC. Grr. Good luck everyone!

In the same boat R1. My experience there wasn't great - so wasn't a surprise for me. Looks like you have some other good options already, and will likely get more. Best of luck to you!

Bummer, guys!

Interview invite today! The first available time wasn't until 2/14 though 🙁. So how are Drexel's interviews? I interviewed at Temple a month or so ago and it was 1 faculty member (open file) and 1 student (closed file).

Same thing, plus a short essay in response to a prompt.

I cant find it on their website. Anyone know if they accept update letters?

Yup. [email protected] (or supposedly any of the other contact e-mail addresses they provide.)

I interviewed here a while ago.

I found the director of admissions Mrs. Kennedy to be quite rude and the entire affair to be disorganized. Most of the applicants spent the majority of the time sitting in a meeting room talking to eachother.

Left on our own we discovered previous year books, the oldest of which was from 1970 Hahnemann Medical College. We were told that Hahnemann and the Woman's Medical College of Pennsylvania merged that year to form what would become Drexel. Drexel itself seemed to be very proud of their connection to women's education and rights.

We found this photo in their yearbook. Politically correct? No. Funny? Hell yes!

OMG hahahahaha! I can't believe that didn't get axed.

Incidentally, Drexel is really big on women's health and makes it a part of our curriculum. Sorry you didn't enjoy your experience, it's a bit of a different day but I wouldn't necessarily say it's a bad one.
 
Anyone know if Drexel sent out any pre/post interview rejections yet?
 
Accepted! First acceptance. Class of 2016 😀

What a relief...can't even put it into words.
 
File is under review by a member of the admissions committee! Interviewed 11/11/11. So excited
 
Accepted! First acceptance. Class of 2016 😀

What a relief...can't even put it into words.

Congrats, chopped! That first one must feel wonderful.


I was wondering if you would mind sharing your approximate mailing address location (perhaps state?). Once again, congratulations. 🙂
 
Congrats, chopped! That first one must feel wonderful.


I was wondering if you would mind sharing your approximate mailing address location (perhaps state?). Once again, congratulations. 🙂

Philly burbs. The postmark was 12/21. You should be getting it soon!
 
ugh. "a decision has been made". looks like i'm waitlisted.
interviewed 10/11. they really made me wait just to hear that I'm waitlisted. Frak.
 
ugh. "a decision has been made". looks like i'm waitlisted.
interviewed 10/11. they really made me wait just to hear that I'm waitlisted. Frak.

Boo. I was rooting for you. Let's hope there's a lot of waitlist movement this spring!
 
ugh. "a decision has been made". looks like i'm waitlisted.
interviewed 10/11. they really made me wait just to hear that I'm waitlisted. Frak.

Omg, loves the bsg...

Sorry for your bad news. I just got a "final decision" status, so either good news or bad for me. We'll see.
 
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