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That's the spirit! @6svette
Haven't heard one way or the other...wonder what that means :/
Do you think the cocktail reception is worth flying in for if we're not local?
Do you think the cocktail reception is worth flying in for if we're not local?
Haven't heard one way or the other...wonder what that means :/
Hello there!
Thank you for offering to help prospective students. I was recently accepted to Einstein, and really enjoyed my time there.
I was wondering if you could shed light on what you like/dislike about the school. I know you, and many other students, have talked at length about the great students at Einstein. I was hoping if you could also talk about the curriculum, social scene of the area, etc. If I am looking at the curriculum thingy correctly, it seems that there are multiple science classes taken at the same time. Does this make it hard to study for tests, especially when you have mult tests in the same week?
How often do students go into manhattan to hang out and stuff? Also, I know you have not started clinicals yet, but are the hospitals known to give a lot of 'hands on?"
Any other scoop would be appreciated!🙂
Thanks!
Current Einstein Students - does Einstein have a second look weekend/day and if so, when does it usually take place?
Hi! These are all great questions and I believe that Einstein is great in every aspect.
1) What I LOVE the most of Einstein is that the students here are phenomenal. Like I said in a post at the school specific thread, Einstein has some of the most amazing students. It is hard to say/put a word on it until you are actually here. Students are hardworking, chill, nice, and just awesome people. My friends are some of the most HILARIOUS people that I have ever met! What I like the least, and I know every person at Einstein would say this is that we are in the Bronx. We go out at least once a week and it is a hassle to take a 1 hour bus/train ride to the city to go to bars and such. Some people end up taking taxis. The only pro abou being at the Bronx is that the rent is roughly 400ish dollars. If you take the average of rent plus going to the city using taxis, it is still cheaper that what it would cost you if you live in the city. So, you can see it either way.
2) Einstein curriculum is actually one of the best curriculum (I think) of any medical schools. First, other medical schools start off with Anatomy, which is a very difficult course. We start with Histology, which is a more laid back and comprehensive/good overview of everything course. Because of that, our class go out a lot in the first few months because histology isn't that difficult. Further, unlike other schools where students are taking 5-6 classes at once, we only take 2 main science classes at once. That means, we only have 2 test at once and it is very laid back. We have one set of test (so 2 test) about once a month. That means that the 3 weeks, students are relaxed, having fun, going out, etc. Then for the 4th weekend, we would stay back and study. What is really good about Einstein's curriculum is that you always have a study day for each test. That means, we would get out of class at 12pm on Friday. Have Saturday and Sunday to study. On Monday, the professor would have a review day if you want to come. Tuesday is a study day so there are no classes. Wednesday is the first exam and the rest of the afternoon is free to study. Thursday is a study day and Friday is the second exam. As you can see, Einstein gives us ample time to study for tests! Most of my classmates and I cram for our MCFM exam (which is usually the Friday exam) until after our Wednesday exam. It works out. I think 99% of my class pass (don't quote me on this). Einstein is also really good at giving us our grades back. We usually get grades the same day we take our quizzes and such. Now, to qualify the 2 classes at a time. We only take 2 science classes at once. We do have an Intro to Clinical medicine course as well as a Bioethics. I don't really consider them actual classes because there is really no studying involved.
3) I mentioned a little about this earlier, but our class go out about 2-3 times a week. It has died down alittle now since we are taking Anatomy. Thursday night is "GLEASONS' Night. Gleason is a karaoke bar at the Bronx. My class have a great time because students would pick a song and EVERYONE would sing and dance to! They also have beer pong table and a dance floor. On Friday and Saturday nights, we usually go out to Manhattan. We have been pretty much everywhere! Meat-packing district, upper east side, upper west side, brooklyn, lower east side, etc. 2 of our classmates' birthday is this week, and this weekend we are all going to the city to celebrate! Everyone comes out because we are just a tight class. Not only that, second years also hang out with us a lot (a lot less in the second semester since they are studying for the boards).
4) Since coming to Einstein, I have shadowed about 5-6 specialities already. I have assisted in doing some of the most hands on things that I never knew I could do. I won't go into the details because I feel that some of them, I shouldn't have been allowed to do. Einstein faculty LOVES Einstein students! In Surgery Night, a director of Cardiothoracic surgery came and talk to us and told us 10 times that he loves students and want us to email him to shadow him. The same goes to other specialities. When I attend speciality interest groups, the first thing that they give us is a list of shadowing opportunities. This summer, I will be doing research with someone that I had shadowed! Einstein is really good about giving students opportunities about these things. Our Anatomy professor even allowed some of my classmates to skip Anatomy class when we want to shadow a surgeon! On top of that, our Intro to Clinical Medicine course is very well run. At the beginning of the year, they ask us what specialities do we want to do our Monday clinics in. It ranges from internal medicine, family medicine, psychiatry, emergency medicine, women's health, etc. If a speciality isn't on a list and you are interested, they will try to match you up with a physician. I heard somewhere that Einstein has the biggest network of hospitals in the nation. We have sites in Manhattan, Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens! Another great thing about Einstein is that they provide transportation to all the clinical sites. So you just arrive at a location and there will be a black limo waiting to take you to your site! For students that are interested in working at Beth Israel (around 14th street in Manhattan) for their third year rotation, Einstein will pay for an apartment near there and all you have to pay is 400ish for the New York City apartment and the apartment at the Bronx! GREAT DEAL
This has been a long post. Please feel free to contact me if you have any other questions!
Also, please pardon for all the typos and such! I was trying to write as much as I can in a short time!
Hey Everyone:
Been watching the thread for a while. Luckily, was in the Jan. 15th batch of acceptances (made my millennium 😍 ). I've been looking on Facebook to see if a Albert Einstein Class of 2017 group would pop up, but it hasn't as far as I can tell. I know other classes have done this, and its really quite useful. I'm comfortable being an Admin for the FB group as I'm fosho going to Einstein so..... Should I start this up?
Hey Everyone:
Been watching the thread for a while. Luckily, was in the Jan. 15th batch of acceptances (made my millennium 😍 ). I've been looking on Facebook to see if a Albert Einstein Class of 2017 group would pop up, but it hasn't as far as I can tell. I know other classes have done this, and its really quite useful. I'm comfortable being an Admin for the FB group as I'm fosho going to Einstein so..... Should I start this up?
How did you guys do thank you notes?
i typed it in MS Word so I wouldn't make mistakes and then I cut pasted to my email box and sent it.
Out of curiosity, did anyone get the acceptance letter in the mail? I live in Queens, literally 25 minutes away and have still not gotten it.
Interesting. I think an email is in order.
I live really close by too and I still haven't received mine. If I don't get it this week I'm going to email.
I still also didn't get the certiphi email even after sending the acceptance confirmation form online. Any one else in that boat?
I haven't received the certiphi email either. I emailed Einstein and they still haven't gotten back to me. I'll keep you updated if I hear anything and I hope you guys will do the same.
do you both have multiple acceptances? Because I had gotten the certiphi email before my Einstein acceptance for another school and the report was then automatically released to Einstein with no additional email (I called Certiphi and Einstein to check on this and they confirmed it)
do you both have multiple acceptances? Because I had gotten the certiphi email before my Einstein acceptance for another school and the report was then automatically released to Einstein with no additional email (I called Certiphi and Einstein to check on this and they confirmed it)
Did anyone who got accepted get an email back confirming that you submitted the technical standards form? I got one confirming I submitted the acceptance form but not the technical standards so just wanted to check.....thanks.
Any folkes waiting for good news still? Hopin I would hear January 15th but maybe sometime soon? Thread seems pretty quiet lately aside from those still worrying about post acceptance minutiae like verification form receipt.
Really?
Have they finished giving out invites?
+1
thinking about sending a pre-interview LOI. Where/what email address do I send it to?
you mad bro?Any folkes waiting for good news still? Hopin I would hear January 15th but maybe sometime soon? Thread seems pretty quiet lately aside from those still worrying about post acceptance minutiae like verification form receipt.
No, i'm a pretty level headed guy. You a troll bro? probably
We just got an email a few days ago about volunteering at a March 14th admitted students event. If you live in the area, I would recommend you to go. It is a high end event with alumnus so you can talk to them and see what they are doing! Currently students will be there as well so you can talk to them as welllllllll.
Einstein doesn't have an official second look. But like someone mentioned, email admissions and they will hook you up with something! I LOVE the admissions office. People in my class also drop by there to say Hi, chit chat, and grab free snacks and coffee. They never complain and even welcome us! They are super nice! Email them and see what they will set up for you!
Thank you for this info! Would you mind answering soe more questions?
Can you give us more info on this march 14 event, like location, time, how/where/when to sign up?
1) How likely is it that 1st year single students can get a studio? If they get a studio, must they share with another student? For the 1- and 2-bd apt, do students still have to put in walls themselves (I heard this costs $1000).
2) How furnished are the rooms? (Fridge, stove, bed, desk, shelves, closet, light?)
3) Do most students have a car in 3rd and 4th year to get to rotations? Is it easy to get to rotations using public transportation or do you need a car?
4) how to set up rotation schedule? is it a lottery system? do ppl get what they want? how many sites?
5) Does the campus feel isolated? Are the buildings and campus well-maintained?
6) how many shelf exams? what are they worth?
7) are the lectures mandatory to attend?
8) are there review sessions for exams?
9) need a car for anything besides rotations
10) are there cheap apts nearby that students like to live in, off-campus?
11) do you get a summer vacation?
12) how much clinical experience first 2 years?
13) how nice are the facilities (anatomy lab, histo, technology, student lounge, etc)
14) are student affairs helpful for matching and early advice?
15) are there research opp in summer? easy to publish?
16) how well do they prepare u for step 1
17) how much time do u get to study for step 1?
18) how to set up rotation schedule? is it a lottery system? do ppl get what they want? how many sites?
19) deadline to take step 2?
20) is it easy to take time off for interviews? - i heard this is very difficult to miss class for interviews?
Okay i know there are a lot of questions here but any answers would be super helpful! Thank you!
Wow, lots of questions. Without giving myself away, I will simply say that I am not yet an Einstein student, but have a wealth of knowledge about the program and what it's like to be an Einstein student. All these answers are based off a current student's experiences. But feel free to take them with a grain of salt...
1) How likely is it that 1st year single students can get a studio? If they get a studio, must they share with another student? For the 1- and 2-bd apt, do students still have to put in walls themselves (I heard this costs $1000).
Not likely. Most 1st years share 3-bds, unless you are married or have children. I believe you'll be able to get on the wait list for a studio when you sign up for housing. No, the housing people put in the walls, but I think most of them have already have them now (they did a lot last year).
2) How furnished are the rooms? (Fridge, stove, bed, desk, shelves, closet, light?)
fridge, stove, empty closet (one shared closet in 3-bds, and then one in each bedroom) with one high shelf. there ares lights in the kitchen, bathroom, and hallways. everything else is up to you
3) Do most students have a car in 3rd and 4th year to get to rotations? Is it easy to get to rotations using public transportation or do you need a car?
transportation to rotations is provided by einstein (a real perk).
4) how to set up rotation schedule? is it a lottery system? do ppl get what they want? how many sites?
yeah it's a lottery/algorithm system. you get to rank each rotation in terms of what's most important to you, and then rank the sites for each rotation. you can look at the list of sites on the website.
5) Does the campus feel isolated? Are the buildings and campus well-maintained?
it is isolated in terms of nyc standards, meaning that you aren't surrounded by an all-encompassing city (but the city is extremely accessible). but the einstein campus has that really nice "campus feel". people really seem to like that it has a campus where most people live. it makes it seem more of a community and less like a place where you just go to school. Most buildings are pretty well maintained, not going to lie, it isn't perfect, but I doubt that any school would be.
6) how many shelf exams? what are they worth?
there are shelves for all the "major" third year rotations (medicine, surgery, peds, psych, ob/gyn), one for family med but it's not a normal/national one, and then one shelf fourth year (neuro)
7) are the lectures mandatory to attend?
nope. there are small group case-based sessions that are mandatory.
8) are there review sessions for exams?
yep. also the day off before any exam.
9) need a car for anything besides rotations
it's really useful to have a car for quality-of-life purposes. but lots of people don't. totally up to you and what you think you will want.
10) are there cheap apts nearby that students like to live in, off-campus?
there are cheap apts nearby (compared to nyc prices), but they're still more expensive than on-campus apts. most students either live on campus, or don't live in the bronx. very few live in the surrounding neighborhood.
11) do you get a summer vacation?
only one, the summer after first year.
12) how much clinical experience first 2 years?
a decent bit. you go to an assigned site and shadow a preceptor once a week for multiple months during first year as part of the Intro to Clinical Medicine course. second year, you also do this and start practicing your physical exam (although I think they're starting to change this and you learn more phys exam in first year now). you can also volunteer at the student-run ECHO Free Clinic, where you would get some more clinical experience.
13) how nice are the facilities (anatomy lab, histo, technology, student lounge, etc)
i can't speak to the quality of the academic facilities (i hear they're fine, not state-of-the-art, but you don't really need them to be anyways), but the student lounge is pretty nice (big tv, pool table, couches, etc). the paperless curriculum is pretty cool, all you need is your computer, you don't have to lug around huge packets of powerpoints all the time. the new clinical simulation center is supposed to be pretty nice.
14) are student affairs helpful for matching and early advice?
I know that they are good at starting to provide mentoring towards the end of third year. you do get a decent bit of guidance for applying in your desired specialty and how to structure your fourth year. i think people are pretty happy with the amount of residency application guidance that they receive. however, before third & fourth years, there are so many events and panels where you get to speak with and hear from alumni, montefiore faculty, older students, etc about their career choices and the fields they're in. a lot of students attend these and they seem like they would be really helpful.
15) are there research opp in summer? easy to publish?
it's up to you to find the project you want. there are lots of einstein/montefiore faculty that are willing to take on einstein students for the summer and beyond, and it's extremely easy to get einstein research funding. there are projects in basic and clinical research and global health. there are some good ways on the einstein website to search for people in certain fields or according to what research they're doing.
16) how well do they prepare u for step 1
It's all about self initiative. A lot of people stop going to lecture during second year to start their own combined regimen of class studying and step 1 studying. you get about a month (or just over) off to just study, but other than that, there is no concrete preparation course provided by the school (only a number of schools nationwide actually do something like that). However, einstein's most recent step 1 average was really good, so that says something.
17) how much time do u get to study for step 1?
see above. i'll add that it depends from year to year, because they do it based on when spring break is, which is based on when Passover falls. so it can range from four to six weeks off.
18) how to set up rotation schedule? is it a lottery system? do ppl get what they want? how many sites?
you get a "track" that dictates your rotation schedule (and that will align with other people who are on your same track). there are so many sites for most rotations ( a real plus about einstein). as you head into third year, you start to hear by word of mouth what are the good sites for what, and what has intense hours and what has easy hours, etc. lots of people switch with others if they don't like the site they're placed at, but overall, einstein has great affiliated sites that provide extremely good clinical training and exposure to clinical medicine that you wouldn't see in rural or more affluent areas.
19) deadline to take step 2?
not sure exactly, but some time before late winter/spring of fourth year.
20) is it easy to take time off for interviews? - i heard this is very difficult to miss class for interviews?
no, fourth year is structured around interviewing and doing elective and away rotations. you get to structure your year, so you leave lots of open time during the fall/winter for away rotations and interviewing. you have no class during fourth year either way.
hope that helps!
Thank you so much!
Does Einstein have clinical simulation rooms (in addition to exam rooms)?
What are current students' thoughts on the curriculum? Is it not integrated?
Scrubulous did a good job answering all those questions - I have some comments to add that ill try to get to tomorrow, busy with studying now.
Regarding your 2 questions, what do you mean by clinical simulation rooms? Are you referring to things like Simulated patient mannequins? If so, no, Einstein does not currently have that. But the exposure you get via the mock patients they bring in for practice physical exams plus the hospital experiences more than makes up for it!
Regarding question 2 - can you clarify what you mean?