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Discussion in 'Allopathic School-Specific Discussions (<2017)' started by gettheleadout, Mar 7, 2012.
Did anyone who interviewed in mid February heard anything ??
do you take temple shuttle bus from Ambler campus to med campus?
I interviewed on 2/5 for the St. Luke's campus and just found out I was accepted today!
Any one who is wondering what the neighborhood is like around Temple Medical here is the map of Philadelphia's "Badland".. as you can see its really close to Temple University..I pass this area pretty much everyday on my way to Temple main campus..By the way Temple med campus itself isn't all that bad.. considering there are temple cops around all the time.
Its pretty sad actually. But I would say this..if you do clinical here..you are going to have hella of experience. (not that its a bad thing).
P.S. the other link is for the article about what its like around Badland and a video. And also the "Boner Forever" building is about 2 blocks from med school. And North Philly is much better.
Some colorful language so use headphones and will give you an idea of what types of EM cases you will be dealing with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSX0CXjzDS8&list=PLxjzq5Xlygbg_x277oxUl5_C3onRevamZ
The messed up part is that the most of the landscape you see in the above abc and youtube videos is still there.
Me too! It's funny, I got a really short email from them and I braced myself thinking "well ****, here comes the bad news", but I was very pleasantly surprised.
If anyone cares, my stats are OOS, 3.5GPA, 33Q MCAT, secondary sent 8/8/12, interview at 2/5/13, accepted 3/22/13.
Nope, I drive my car. I drop my kids off at daycare then head down. The ambler campus is also a few miles west of my house, and I drive south to campus. It would be great if I lived closer to Ambler, but alas, I do not.
Ahh, boner forever. I see that thing every day.
North Philly sucks, no question. But FWIW, I have never felt unsafe on campus, and while there have been students mugged or robbed on the way to their car, they park on the street. I shell out the money to park in the garage. It's expensive, to be sure, but it's better than being held up. And if you are ever concerned, you can request a Temple police officer escort you to your car.
You are right, though, the clinical experience at TUH is unique. I am actually doing most of my third year rotations at another hospital, but I am planning on doing my 4th year EM rotation there.
Oh..yeah I totally agree. Temple Med campus is pretty safe because of temple cops patrolling it.
I actually take bus from ambler campus to main campus..its free for students so that's great! and parking @ ambler campus is about ~90/year..which is awesome.
Do you think it would be worth it to commute from ambler to med campus? (or should I just get the apartment in North Philly..so it would be more time efficient)
Does the parking garage have security? I would feel that a street is more likely to be safer unless its a back street you are parking at.
Yes.. parking is pretty much next to the temple med school. Its pretty safe if you don't wander too far from the parking lot.
here is the link to parking lot (google maps)
and here is the link to that booner forever abandoned building and the surrounding badland area.
It's tough. I would personally commute, but I never considered any other option for myself. The biggest problem I foresee is the rare times you have to be in later at night (your OSCE, the reproductive exam session, etc.). You will also have doctoring from 3-5 for either MS1 or MS2, and you will need to be quick getting out of there on time to catch the 5:10 shuttle back to Ambler or you'll have to wait until 6:40.
The convenience of living in North Philly (I assume you mean one of the rentals right behind MERB?) is nice, but there's almost nowhere to grocery shop, there's the crime element, etc.
I think I might just end up commuting because it would just be too much work if I stayed alone off campus.
Yeah that 6:40 bus is a killer..you wont get home till ~8
As long as those 6:40 situations are less than ~3 times a month, I'll be fine.
You will be randomly assigned to a doctoring college. One year you will be 1-3, the other year you will be 3-5, but you'll still be on the same day of the week. They're usually pretty good at getting you out by 3 or 5. You just probably won't have time to go back to your locker before you have to catch the shuttle, so bring your stuff with you to Doctoring, if you can (shouldn't be a problem most of the time).
How often would you say students need to be on campus past 5? Just during the first 2 years. I'll be doing rotations at one of the other campuses closer to home. I only ask because I am also worried about the crime element, and riding the subway back into center city later at night, and walking to the subway in north philly etc.
I don't know much about the subway stations around the med school..but when I first started commuting from a station near the main campus..I had a guy walked up to me and asked me for a dollar because "he needed one more dollar to buy a train ticket" so I took out my wallet to give him that dollar....the next thing I know he took my whole wallet and ran away with it. Later I found out that he was just a junkie.
Heh I hope you learned your lesson...sucks you had to lose your wallet.
If you're worried about leaving the campus and walking to the subway, you could always hang around till the hospital change of shift (usually 7'oclock) and just walk in the company of the mob of hospital employees walking to the subway.
Does everyone who lives in CC and doesn't have a car commute by subway? Or is the bus a good option? Is there a bus line that runs down Broad St.? I feel like I'd be more comfortable on a bus late at night than on a subway.
It's rare unless you're doing some thing extracurricular. Maybe 4 times over the course of the year? You're not guaranteed to be there that late for your OSCE, some of the times are earlier. I always managed to get rescheduled by the block secretary or switch with someone because I have to pick up my kids by a certain time.
About the subway, the stations are right on Broad Street. Most of the times I've heard about people getting robbed happen a few blocks away from Broad, usually while walking to a car they parked on the street, not the garage. Erie station is a little closer to MERB, but the school will tell you to walk down to Allegheny, where I'm pretty sure some Temple Police are stationed.
I think everyone takes the subway, and that's something to remember, you'll probably be riding with a lot of other Temple students, especially in the morning. There is the 16 bus that runs down Broad Street, but it takes you 37 minutes to get from City Hall to TUSM on the bus and 10 minutes on the subway.
Just got the letter saying I got placed at Geisinger for years 3 and 4. Just wondering if anybody knows anything about the area and if the clinical rotations are as good compared to being in one of the bigger cities.
I got that crap too. FYI, it's in Danville, PA so no. You're stuck in backwater PA and it's going to be obesity and Type II diabetes day-in-day-out. I contacted the admissions and requested to be transfered to Temple Hospital, which they said could only be done after matriculation.
Yeah, if you have another option for medical school I would advise taking it. As I will be doing since Danville, PA is 4 hours from anywhere and will not have the patient base/resources for clinical rotations.
You know that's what you're going to see constantly anywhere in this country, right?
To be fair, Danville is 3 hours from Philly, not 4, but yes, it is in rural PA. Geisinger is the primary medical system for northeast and central PA, and while you won't see the kind of inner city trauma that you would at TUH, it is supposed to be an excellent hospital/health system (I am at Temple/affiliates personally). I'm sure people on the waitlist would happily take your spot if you think you'd be happier elsewhere.
Does anyone know how likely it is that you'll be able to change your clinical campus? Do they take things like significant ties to Philadelphia into account?
Yes, but Danville lacks any cultural/social stimulation whatsoever. There is no airport (think 4th year audition rotations), it's 3/4 hours on back country roads to get anywhere, and is primarily white. When I feel like handing over my spot on May 14 then I hope it goes to someone who is happy to get it.
The affiliate health system assignments are poorly handled. I would have loved to go to Temple, but sending me away to Danville for two years when I have a family in Philadelphia was rude. I applied to Temple to go to TUH and see a large inner city hospital population- not Geisinger.
Edit- Corgidoctor, I've been trying since January to change my clinical campus and have a spouse who is going to school/working in Philadelphia (and will be for the next 5 years). I was told they "are aware of students who did not receive their first choice clinical campus" but was told on the phone that they could not accommodate changes until after matriculation.
Do you know of any students at geisinger who have actually enjoyed it? I dont want to give up my spot at temple as it is a great school but I feel like the Philadelphia area hospitals are what make it great, not the satellite locations.
Also I guess it could be considered a plus that since Geisinger is a smaller campus the doctors will get to know you better/ give you more responsibility and better rec letters for residency.
Is the Crozer-Chester campus good? Is it more suburban or city?
Not an expert, but a quick google search makes it seem like not the most desirable place to be. They classify it as a suburb of Philadelphia with a population of 33,000.
Was Geisinger your 2nd choice, 3rd or 4th choice?
I looked up some stuff on geisinger and it is a level 1 trauma center and tertiary referral center meaning all the big trauma in central pa is going there. They do more surgeries than temple hospital and philly but not as much Emergency room stuff.
Overall seems like a good place to learn for the two years
does anyone have any stats on the different clinical campus sites? like how many students from the class go to each site? or what's the chance of getting temple if you listed it as your top choice?
First of all - why don't you do some research on Geisinger before you trash the hospital? They are one of the most efficiently run hospitals in the nation and serve as a model for the implementation of electronic medical records. They have a high volume of cases since they serve such a large area. If you want name recognition then you'd be happy to know that Obama cited the hospital as an example for other hospitals and health care systems to follow since Geisinger is able to provide the highest quality of care while keeping costs lower.
Yes, it is in Danville, but just because it is more of a rural area doesn't say anything to the quality of the hospital or its facilities. The point above means you're going to be getting a very unique clinical experience seeing how a hospital like Geisinger operates.
Second of all - why do you think you're so special that you require preferential treatment just because you have family in Philadelphia? Schools can't accommodate every applicants' wishes and needs. Tough luck. It sounds like you're just bitter you didn't get your first choice.
Thirdly - if you're already tired of seeing obese/diabetic patients you might as well practice in another country or embark on a non-health care related career.
emphasis on this....avoiding patients with obesity and other chronic medical problems isn't going to fix the nationwide epidemic that you will in some way be a part of fixing as a doctor, whether you like it or not. Healthy, young, attractive and responsible people don't get sick very often. Hell, half the problem with diabetes is its numerous comorbidities which sends these patients to the hospital way more frequently than the normal person.
Is this a joke...
No, it is not a joke and I was not dissatisfied with Geisinger as a hospital. I have a husband whom I live with in Philadelphia (not just "family") and will continue to live with as we are partners who run a household together. When I contacted Temple about this concern I was given a general response e-mail that did not answer my specific questions about changing my clinical campus (where I was on the list, when I would know, what the process was like, how successful new students had been in the past). I called and was told they would have a better idea of switching clinical campuses in March. I called again and was told it could only be addressed after matriculation which contradicted what they said in January . All subsequent e-mails have been ignored or I have received the exact same form response e-mail as before. That is rude.
Look, I work in North Philadelphia with the homeless population there and I love my work. I wanted to go to Temple to help my clients and continue my work with that specific community. It is not the fact that I am uninterested in diabetic and obese patients, it is that I have little interest in working with the Geisinger health system population (primarily white and rural). Danville also lacks many of the cultural advantages of Philadelphia. For example the Art Museum, symphony, and dance companies which are important to me as a stress reliever.
I really wanted to go to Temple, so I am bitter that I was given my 3rd choice clinical campus as it was my top choice medical school.
Sorry for the interruption, but will Temple let us know where we stand on the waitlist? My letter said I can send in some more letters of recommendations, which I think I will do, but I'm curious my chances of getting in off the waitlist.
Hello all. Can anyone provide me with the link to the application portal (I cannot seem to find it in my email or by web search)? I have decided on a different university and would like to relinquish my spot in Temple's class so that someone else might be accepted off the waitlist. I emailed the admissions office nearly two weeks ago requesting to withdraw and have yet to hear a reply. Good luck to all still waiting to hear.
I can understand where you are coming from and I think you have strong reasons to want the Temple campus for rotations. Do you have a back-up school anywhere in Philly if it doesn't work out with Temple? If not, you need to be careful about how you proceed unless you want to reapply next year.... I would suggest sending a letter to the dean describing your personal situation as well as why you applied to Temple (i.e. your current line of work with the communities) and state that if you can't switch campuses before matriculation, you will have to withdraw due to financial/personal reasons. I don't think that is too much to ask.. they are asking you to deposit over $50k into their school before finding out if MAYBE you will get switched to live where you need to live for the last two years. Continue to pursue your top choice site because as people withdraw their acceptances, there are likely some candidates withdrawing from the Temple site. On the flip side, I also understand how others may think you are being ungrateful for getting an acceptance to the school period, so just be careful how you word your letter if you end up writing one. Often times us candidates/applicants are treating like cattle because there is so many of us.. at the end of the day, they have thousands of people willing to go to their school therefore they probably don't go above and beyond with responding to emails, etc. At least that is what I've experienced with some schools, such as Temple. There are at least 300 people on their WL so just keep that in mind.
Does anyone know when financial aid information comes out?
Would it be OK to state in a letter of intent that i would accept only if I am assigned to the Temple University Hospital (Philly) Campus? I'm currently waitlisted and Temple is my #1 choice, but I only want to attend if I will be in Philly for all 4 years. If I was assigned to any other clinical site, I would choose to go to my #2 school which I am already accepted to.
I think that would look a little pompous. If anything that would probably jeopardize any acceptance they were thinking about giving you.
Temple is a great school regardless of clinical sight and at the end of the day everyone gets the same diploma. They wouldnt have the different sights if people were receiving different educations from them.
Did anyone who interviewed mid February heard anything yet ? I interviewed on 2/14 and still haven't heard anything no status change neither. I really like temple and it's mission, I will be supper happy to go here. Temple please love me back !
I interviewed 2/12 and haven't heard anything back either. I know how you feel. Of all the places I interviewed, Temple was easily my favorite in terms of mission and even student body. And I thought the day had gone well too.
I thought we might hear back this Friday (since people who interviewed 2/5 heard back last Friday). But it IS good Friday and the office might actually be closed.
Best of luck to you! Keep us posted if you hear something.
Up to you, but if it's true, I don't think it would hurt you too much. Maybe would be more worth bringing up after your acceptance, but I dunno. Up to you. If you already have a medical school acceptance, then you really don't have too much to lose.
If you do decide to do this, make sure you word it like a goddess...
I won't be able to go to the second visit but I really want to know what they will say. Is it possible that anyone of you guys posts a summary of the day?
Thanks in advance.
yup yup, ill try to do it.
Thanks so much Lafakads
This is a great school!
Temple sends out pre-interview rejections throughout the application cycle? I am wondering what is taking so long to get an official rejection since I haven't heard anything since getting completed last year.
Is it pretty much over if we are still hoping for an interview here? def my #1 school. oos 28/3.85 great letters and extracurr.
wondering the same thing too
Called the admissions office today, and the lady said that they're still interviewing in april. She was very vague though and wouldn't say when the last interview was.
withdrawing from my wl spot