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for people who have received Hold notifications OR II, when did you submit your secondaries?
thanks!
thanks!
7/12congrats! when were you complete??
7/3/18 - same day I received the secondary. I spent a good 2 months pre-writing.Congrats! When were you complete if you don't mind answering?
LizzyM under 70, OOS, URMFor those of you who got an II, do you mind sharing stats?
Will say that the majority of people will forever have this status"Your file is currently undergoing a review by our committee. Thank you for applying to Loyola University Chicago-Stritch School of Medicine."
curious on whether it is actually under review or if it's just a statement to make us sit back and wait. For those who got interviews/rejections, how long did this status stay for? thanks
Does Loyola reject, and if they do, what's the status for that?“Your file is currently undergoing a review...” - your app is complete. They either haven’t looked yet, or they have but they haven’t deferred it or put you on hold yet. This is the status you have before an II
“Your file has been initially reviewed...” - has been reviewed and put on hold/deferred. Don’t fret guys! This happens to a lot of people and they’ve been taken off this status before.
Just wanted to clarify these statuses based on my understanding from previous threads and advice from Loyola med student folks.
If you’re put on hold, perhaps submit an update on your app. This school is very very keen on getting people who not only qualify, but specifically FIT at the school and their mission. Try starting work or updating with things that reflect that so you can show that you’ll carry their torch essentially. Good luck friends!
Does Loyola reject, and if they do, what's the status for that?
Rarely, it’s a silent rejection for mostDoes Loyola reject, and if they do, what's the status for that?
Historically, people don’t get formally rejected pre-II until March
Good to know! Thanks!Rarely, it’s a silent rejection for most
Does this school pre-screen for secondaries? Or is one automatically sent to everyone who applies via AMCAS?
Having a hard time answering the first essay prompt and I’ve already done 22 secondaries. I’m not sure how to go about it.
I would not, personally. Up to you though. I feel like it’s really just bringing them up-to-date on your application since submission of your primary.For this prompt in the secondary,
5. Please use this space to bring the information in your AMCAS application up-to-date. Please indicate additional grades earned, alteration in your proposed coursework or graduation date, address changes, additions to you list of activities, and anything else you feel we should know. If you have not been enrolled in coursework, please let us know what you have been doing since coursework ended.
it says to add "anything else you feel we should know"
Do you guys think I can add my reason for applyin to Loyola here?
thanks for your insight. I do understand that it may be a lil extra of me of possibly include my "why loyola" essay into the last prompt, but I'm not sure if adding that essay is a good fit for the first prompt asking about what Jesuit ideal means to me.I would not, personally. Up to you though. I feel like it’s really just bringing them up-to-date on your application since submission of your primary.
I would weave “why Loyola” into the first prompt, as I think that’s what the school is going for (not just answering the question but to apply it personally = how you serve others, why you fit the school, and why the school fits you)
I incorporated how service-oriented the school is. How certain programs and organizations that support the underserved really appeal to me, etc.thanks for your insight. I do understand that it may be a lil extra of me of possibly include my "why loyola" essay into the last prompt, but I'm not sure if adding that essay is a good fit for the first prompt asking about what Jesuit ideal means to me.
Like Loyola is a Jesuit school, but would it really be a good place to add my "why loyola" essay?
Yeah haha thanks for sharing your thoughts! good luck on your appsI incorporated how service-oriented the school is. How certain programs and organizations that support the underserved really appeal to me, etc.
Don’t force this into your essay if you don’t feel it fits. It’s definitely easier to incorporate if its part of your initial outline and I think, for me, it was more organic and genuine to integrate it into the first prompt than to add in an essay. Plus I had an update essay haha. But I guarantee they’ve seen it all and offered II’s to people who’ve done both or neither.
+1. Submitted on the same day. Same status.i submitted 7/4 and I'm still undergoing review... is this normal?
I did not say Jesuit value I just said "being a person of others"Will not writing a lot for the Jesuit values thing be bad? Idk about the rest of you but I see the values as like "be a good person, be good to others, give back, etc" which is like.....just be a nice person? I get why they want it but I think we all want to implement the values even at schools that arent specifically Jesuit.
My major was non-science so I said I only went to them and hardly ever spoke to my pre-med advisorHow did you guys answer "If you did not submit an advisor letter, please indicate to us why you chose not to seek a letter from your pre-medical advisor. For example, if your undergraduate school did not have a pre-medical advisor, let us know."
my school has pre-HEALTH advisor, but I didn't like him and didn't find him very helpful which is why I didn't get a letter from him.
If you are against applying to this school, I suggest you don't apply because at the end of the day it's your 4 years of medical education and you would likely want to spend it in a school where YOU want to learn. so it may be a waste of your time and energy to try to get into this school which you are not desiring to enter.I have a 497 MCAT score and I’m getting a lot of family pressure to apply to this school although I’m against it. I’m URM with a 3.66/3.55 cumm/sci GPA. Can anyone please help me verify that my stats aren’t compatible with this school?
If you are against applying to this school, I suggest you don't apply because at the end of the day it's your 4 years of medical education and you would likely want to spend it in a school where YOU want to learn. so it may be a waste of your time and energy to try to get into this school which you are not desiring to enter.
But I personally think loyola is a great school to meet diverse people and get involved in service. I'd say do some research to see if there really is nothing you like about loyola. If you find somehting you like about great! if not, at least you know what kind of school you are looking for.
are you applying to schools in general this cycle?I'm thinking more in the lines of my MCAT score being tragic. I love the school dearly but I don't want to be a reapplicant. I just thought that it'd be too low for consideration. Sorry if the question was confusing.
are you applying to schools in general this cycle?
I am no expert but since you are also leaning towards waiting another year I suggest that you retake your mcat and spend a gap year building up your EC. I think it may def increase your chances which I believe you are also aware of.It's not a goal of mine but I'm being pulled from so many different angles. I just want to withdraw and retake. It's not wise to apply IMO. I just want to verify that it would be currently impossible to gain acceptance with my scores. My family doesn't understand the process. I've tried showing them AAMC data, nothing. Which is why I'm posing the question about stats.
Damn near everyone that applies to med school is a reapplicant, for reference i'm URM, a veteran and I have a 500 MCAT and I'm a third time reapplicant lol. My best advice if you dont feel confident in getting in, save your money until next cycle and use this cycle to focus on your MCAT.I'm thinking more in the lines of my MCAT score being tragic. I love the school dearly but I don't want to be a reapplicant. I just thought that it'd be too low for consideration. Sorry if the question was confusing.
Will not writing a lot for the Jesuit values thing be bad? Idk about the rest of you but I see the values as like "be a good person, be good to others, give back, etc" which is like.....just be a nice person? I get why they want it but I think we all want to implement the values even at schools that arent specifically Jesuit.
Thanks I actually just submitted my app haha. I talked about how their values align with mine and how i have demonstrated that via X Y Z and how those furthered my desire to become a "person for other" (or whatever wording they used). And then specifically how the school will help me grow because they value these idealsI am not sure I understand the issue, but here goes my crack at a response:
It is not about how many sentences/paragraphs/essays you write that will motivate an adcom to invite you to an interview, its the quality of your answer and how it reflects you and your desire to attend the institution you are applying to. If you feel that you come across well in a short response to this question, then go for it. While the question may seem trivial (obviously the majority of those who want to go into medicine are doing it because they like helping other people), its an opportunity to let your strengths shine and show them why you would be a good candidate for this school. Loyola takes pride in its Jesuit tradition, even if its based on values and not necessarily religion. So it is important to them that they find students who fulfill that (even those who are not Jesuit).
I don't know if I answered your question or if you even had a question. Haha. Basically my point is there is no right answer to a question. They are just giving you a platform to prove that you would fit in and excel at this specific school.
Sounds like a great response.Thanks I actually just submitted my app haha. I talked about how their values align with mine and how i have demonstrated that via X Y Z and how those furthered my desire to become a "person for other" (or whatever wording they used). And then specifically how the school will help me grow because they value these ideals
Are you a reapplicant?Would it be weird if I don't answer any of the optional questions as a reapplicant?
Ya. I went ahead and answered them. I was feeling lazy at that moment and didn’t want to write another essay explaining all that hahaAre you a reapplicant?
Ya. I went ahead and answered them. I was feeling lazy at that moment and didn’t want to write another essay explaining all that haha
JAWS? What's that?Received an II on Tuesday! OOS, LizzyM ~70, JAWS ~80-85, Love the Chicago area and can't wait for my interview on the 28th of August! This secondary gave a lot of space to share my story, and I approached it trying to be very open and vulnerable, focusing on the growth found through some of my most challenging life experiences and how it led me to medicine. Seems like they value authenticity a good deal, don't be afraid to share parts of your true self!