I would go with khakis/slacks or dress/skirt for the adcom and faculty events on Friday. Nice jeans may be appropriate for the social events with students on Friday evening and Saturday. That's just my personal interpretation though.what does “smart casual” mean for second look? aka can i wear jeans?
Hi Drdrpizza, thanks for the questions! Preclinical is true pass-fail. There are no internal rankings, as long as you get above a 70 or two standard deviations away from the mean (whichever works more in the students' favour), you're golden. There are no curves that I have heard of for clinical years (although I am a first year). From what I know, you get your grade independent of everyone else. Feel free to ask any followups or any other questions!Hello! I have a couple of questions about the grading system at NYU. I know preclinical is P/F, but I've seen some older posts saying that it's not true P/F (i.e. NYU does internal rankings). I'm not sure whether those posts were accurate, outdated, etc., so I wanted to check with people here. Also, are the clinical years graded on any sort of curve (like only a certain percentage of students can get Honors)?
Is housing for the most part guaranteed for M1s as long as they submit the housing app or is there a lottery/waitlist? During second look they said that they'd be moving all the med students to Vilcek and then residents would be in Greenberg so just wandering if there would be any availability issues there.
I mean I don't think anyone has any idea, but they did say that they were basically only accepting 100 people, which means that if literally anybody decides not to go, that's a seat they need to fill. Or maybe I'm just being optimisticAny ideas on what waitlist movement will be like this year?
Thanks for letting me know, and for being forthright about the situation! Fingers crossed for all of us on here.
Wash U gives free tuition to 50% of students now and Columbia I suspect is close to the same with many of those even receiving over free tuitionThis is actually pretty surprising, given the free tuition at NYU. I suspect schools such as Harvard, Hopkins and Stanford have expanded their parameters on need-based aid because they can afford to. And schools like Penn have expanded parameters for both need based and merit aid. They dont want to be outbid for top students. Unsure what Columbia is doing as their FA and merit situation appears quite confused.
Perhaps they underaccepted thinking their yield would be high, given free tuition. They had no baseline from to work.
Columbia doesn't even consider parental income in efc until above $125,000 income. <$125,000 income makes up 40-50% of the national matriculant pool, so assuming Columbia's accepted students don't differ too much from the national income distribution, 40-50% of students will be in the "parental income free" group. Unless they have a ton of personal assets, I can't imagine anyone in this group getting less than free tuition, as that would require an efc of like $25,000. I have no clue what NYU's cutoff is for providing aid above free tuition, but I doubt it's as generous as Columbia'sWashU makes total sense. Probably UChicago adjusted too. Mixed reports from Columbia, according to postings this cycle.
Equal cost for everyone does not mean equal debt burden. The closest thing you get to equal debt burden are the need based schools which give everyone a loan minimum, which is set based on the resources of the school, and then cover the rest with a combination of need-based aid and efc. Whether or not it's "fair" is obviously going to be very subjective but my understanding (albeit without access to the outcome data to back it up) is that this system creates the narrowest distribution of debt upon graduationI applaud what NYU is doing by providing everyone full tuition. It seems the fairest model.
Some schools have a tiered system, merit aid, need-based aid with some students full pay. That model I think will prove unsustainable, in part because I believe it will be challenged legally as dicriminatory. Just a matter of time.
Better to give everyone some form of reduced tuition (does not have to be full) and have everyone bear roughly the same debt burden upon graduation. Right now you have a form of cross-sudsidization going on that, imo, is unfair.