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jkdenton16 said:
If you don't mind, how low? I am in the same boat with that low GPA life and I want to know there's still hope for me.

DM works too.
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3.0! But I’m pretty sure my app was looked at holistically
6+years in undergrad
Last 4 years gpa 3.7 with full science load (biochem major)
 
After Secondary, does PNW gave II to applicants IS with above avg stats automatically? Or do they still screen very hard?
 
Taskha said:
After Secondary, does PNW gave II to applicants IS with above avg stats automatically? Or do they still screen very hard?
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No such thing as an automatic II. They will still screen you to see if you fit their missions statement, proper EC’s, and grade trends (which they told me were important). If you have those then there is a high chance you could receive one as an IS applicant.
 
stardocscream said:
First interview! So excited!

Any tips? I'm doing it in Feb, but I'm trying to get Dec or Jan if possible.
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Congrats!! When was your complete date? I'm still waiting for my LORs to come in on the portal (since 10/13 i submitted). I can't believe they're booked out till February.... hopefully there will be interview spots left once my file is finally complete!!
 
munch12 said:
II yesterday! This is my first one and I am so excited I was starting to feel pretty down having not received anything yet. Don’t lose hope!
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Hi, would you mind DMing your stats / info? Getting stressed out here!
 
stardocscream said:
First interview! So excited!

Any tips? I'm doing it in Feb, but I'm trying to get Dec or Jan if possible.
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Just relax and have fun with it. The staff there are very warm and welcoming. They aren't going to try to catch you in any "gotcha" questions or anything like that, it's all very laid back and conversational. Of course, it never hurts to review your application and do more research about the school ahead of your interview as well.
 
Today is the day!! Do you guys know when they usually make that A call? I’m in Idaho and I’ve heard someone say something about later in the afternoon.
 
kyoshiwarrior27 said:
Congrats!! When was your complete date? I'm still waiting for my LORs to come in on the portal (since 10/13 i submitted). I can't believe they're booked out till February.... hopefully there will be interview spots left once my file is finally complete!!
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September 28!
 
justacreator said:
Just relax and have fun with it. The staff there are very warm and welcoming. They aren't going to try to catch you in any "gotcha" questions or anything like that, it's all very laid back and conversational. Of course, it never hurts to review your application and do more research about the school ahead of your interview as well.
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That is wonderful! Thank you!

Since I got a II, what is the likelihood I can get added to the upcoming class...if I don't screw up my interview?

Thank you very much!
 
stardocscream said:
That is wonderful! Thank you!

Since I got a II, what is the likelihood I can get added to the upcoming class...if I don't screw up my interview?

Thank you very much!
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I believe they historically accept around 37% of the people they interview. Of course this doesn’t mean everyone has a 37% chance of being accepted... you still have to not “screw up” your interview. Good luck!
 
washhyyy said:
I believe they historically accept around 37% of the people they interview. Of course this doesn’t mean everyone has a 37% chance of being accepted... you still have to not “screw up” your interview. Good luck!
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Interesting! I have no source but earlier on this thread someone mentioned they thought it was closer to 60%. I wonder if it’s somewhere in between...
 
solotravelingpremed said:
Interesting! I have no source but earlier on this thread someone mentioned they thought it was closer to 60%. I wonder if it’s somewhere in between...
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326 offers for 872 II's = 37.4% post II acceptance rate
 

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washhyyy said:
326 offers for 872 II's = 37.4% post II acceptance rate
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I think the prior source mentioned considering folks who didn’t interview. So I’m thinking of actual interviewed to offers made. And I think this prior commenter mentioned the average amount of people interviewed per day, along with number of interview days, to determine how many actually interviewed.
 
solotravelingpremed said:
I think the prior source mentioned considering folks who didn’t interview. So I’m thinking of actual interviewed to offers made.
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That's true, although I don't imagine too many people turn down II's. In order for the post-interview A rate to jump to 60%, almost 40% of people invited to interview would have to decline. I don't think that many people would decline the offer, but I could be wrong. My guess is the actual post-interview A rate is 40-50%
 
washhyyy said:
That's true, although I don't imagine too many people turn down II's. In order for the post-interview A rate to jump to 60%, almost 40% of people invited to interview would have to decline. I don't think that many people would decline the offer, but I could be wrong. My guess is the actual post-interview A rate is 40-50%
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Yeah I truly have no idea. Just speculating.
 
washhyyy said:
I believe they historically accept around 37% of the people they interview. Of course this doesn’t mean everyone has a 37% chance of being accepted... you still have to not “screw up” your interview. Good luck!
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Okay.

Man...those aren’t super good odds, considering my record isn’t the strongest and I’m interviewing kind of late in the cycle (Feb).

Heck! I’m surprised I even got a II. My record is kind of mangled and I’m below their averages - my stronger points being more “soft” aspects of my application.

I’m thankful though for the opportunity since medicine in general is a messy process.
 
Hey guys, I find this file in the old SDN thread.
In 2018, even though II are 800, there are only 463 IA and 262 A.
I can assume many declined the II. Which means the post II A% is 56.6%.
For the IS, the post II A is around 58%. OOS are 55.5%.

BTW: I don't know where to find the exact number of applicants attend Interview and I don't know how they find this number and put into this file. So I am not sure is this data reliable. Just for reference 🙂
 

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For those who interviewed today, what did you guys think? I thought it was a great environment and the students were pretty honest during the Q & A session.
 
Mr. Jollof said:
For those who interviewed today, what did you guys think? I thought it was a great environment and the students were pretty honest during the Q & A session.
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Truthfully, I was a bit put off. The rant against board prep materials and "aynki, whatever the hell that is" was shocking to me. Then I just noticed that the administrators only sometimes answered a question fully, but sort of gave a non-answer. Like the deal about interdisciplinary practice, but when asked she admitted we'd only get to do it once or twice. The interview itself went fine, the presentation left me seriously concerned about going here.
 
TheBlueSnail said:
Truthfully, I was a bit put off. The rant against board prep materials and "aynki, whatever the hell that is" was shocking to me. Then I just noticed that the administrators only sometimes answered a question fully, but sort of gave a non-answer. Like the deal about interdisciplinary practice, but when asked she admitted we'd only get to do it once or twice. The interview itself went fine, the presentation left me seriously concerned about going here.
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I was accepted here a couple weeks ago but will be attending a different school. However, I was not put off at all by this school and thought they had one of the better interview days out of the schools I’ve interviewed at. I was wondering if you could elaborate a little on your concerns regarding this school?
 
Well dang... maybe I shouldn’t have had the two weeks to the day expectation. Just about wrapping up business hours with nothing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Scrubsandscalpels said:
Well dang... maybe I shouldn’t have had the two weeks to the day expectation. Just about wrapping up business hours with nothing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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That’s still kind of unprofessional of them not letting us know when they say they do within two weeks... I mean I get it it’s a rough time for all of us because of everything that’s been going on. But here we still are... waiting for this one phone call.
 
ss1993 said:
That’s still kind of unprofessional of them not letting us know when they say they do within two weeks... I mean I get it it’s a rough time for all of us because of everything that’s been going on. But here we still are... waiting for this one phone call.
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I interviewed here on 9/24. They told us that the adcom would meet within 2 weeks of the interviews, not that they would contact us within 2 weeks
 
washhyyy said:
I was accepted here a couple weeks ago but will be attending a different school. However, I was not put off at all by this school and thought they had one of the better interview days out of the schools I’ve interviewed at. I was wondering if you could elaborate a little on your concerns regarding this school?
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There was a point where someone asked about board prep time, and one of the people who worked there started a rant that can be summarized basically as "if you are planning to deviate from the curriculum, then you are setting yourself up for failure". Correct me if I'm wrong with that @TheBlueSnail.

Yeah, that was a bit off-putting, but to me, it sounded more like someone a little out of touch with boards and how they can dictate our future.
 
Mr. Jollof said:
There was a point where someone asked about board prep time, and one of the people who worked there started a rant that can be summarized basically as "if you are planning to deviate from the curriculum, then you are setting yourself up for failure". Correct me if I'm wrong with that @TheBlueSnail.

Yeah, that was a bit off-putting, but to me, it sounded more like someone a little out of touch with boards and how they can dictate our future.
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Yeah, that's pretty accurate. He started it off by saying SDN and our peers are brainwashing the student body to use these tools (Anki, Pathoma, First Aid). What really got me is he didn't even know what Anki is, yet completely trashed it. Like I really don't want to be anywhere near you if this is your best foot forward...

washhyyy said:
I was accepted here a couple weeks ago but will be attending a different school. However, I was not put off at all by this school and thought they had one of the better interview days out of the schools I’ve interviewed at. I was wondering if you could elaborate a little on your concerns regarding this school?
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I'm going to start with I was seriously considering this school until 30 minutes into the presentation. I do not want to dissuade anyone from applying or attending, a few friends of mine love it there because of the faculty. Maybe I'm reading a bit into this but I just got a very shady vibe from today's presentation. I'm not calling anyone out, and I fully recognize that I have a tiny view of this school, but a few things just didn't sit well with me.

It felt like the school's presentation was mostly fluff. They had a slide talking about paying for school with something like "veteran benefits" on their slide. Someone asked for specifics, and the answer they got had nothing to do with medical school. They said the GI bill (which would be an enormous red flag if it wasn't accepted here), the Yellow Ribbon program and vocational retraining, neither of which are applicable to medical school in any way. Another was the gym reimbursement. It felt like an extremely empty, cheap, and easy way for them to put a bullet point on their recruitment PowerPoint. Like thank you so much for the statistically unlikely probability of dropping $20 a month reimbursement for a gym membership rather than actually having facilities available. Another (which is definitely not specific to here) was the financial advice. Like are you seriously going to charge me $60k a year and then offer budgeting advice? In a similar vein, the part about financial aid didn't mention anything about scholarships they offer. It's simply "we'll help you find scholarships [elsewhere]". So my impression is that they are unwilling to offer any actual financial aid, they'll just tell you how to better spend your money.

Another speaker said they had a 100% match rate and attributed it to their student success department (or some similar name, I don't remember). I've heard from a few alumni and current students about their experiences with the school (before today) and a common complaint I heard was about a lack of guidance into rotations and residency. When asked if their students got into the specialties they wanted (I'm assuming rather shoehorned into FM and IM), they gave another non-answer about it depending on the student. So we have "an entire department dedicated to student success" that doesn't provide board prep, (anecdotally) hasn't been very proactive in guiding students towards their desired residencies, but at least you get an iPad your first year. Very similarly, the same speaker mentioned "we've had a few perfect scores [on USMLE and COMLEX]" and "the nations highest scores" which he again attributed to the curriculum saying something like "they just studied our curriculum very thoroughly". Another question was about whether their graduates actually practice in rural Washington and his non-answer was an anecdote about someone practicing in Detroit that wanted to move back to Yakima. Like fine, that specific case sure, but the question was referring to how successful has PNWU been in its mission statement (i.e. the alumni as a whole).

To quote my favorite movie: "We got a word for that kind of odd in English. It's called 'suspicious'".

Edit: Incorrect about veteran's assistance. It seems they give more money in the Yellow Ribbon program than other schools.
 
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TheBlueSnail said:
Yeah, that's pretty accurate. He started it off by saying SDN and our peers are brainwashing the student body to use these tools (Anki, Pathoma, First Aid). What really got me is he didn't even know what Anki is, yet completely trashed it. Like I really don't want to be anywhere near you if this is your best foot forward...



I'm going to start with I was seriously considering this school until 30 minutes into the presentation. I do not want to dissuade anyone from applying or attending, a few friends of mine love it there because of the faculty. Maybe I'm reading a bit into this but I just got a very shady vibe from today's presentation. I'm not calling anyone out, and I fully recognize that I have a tiny view of this school, but a few things just didn't sit well with me.

It felt like the school's presentation was mostly fluff. They had a slide talking about paying for school with something like "veteran benefits" on their slide. Someone asked for specifics, and the answer they got had nothing to do with medical school. They said the GI bill (which would be an enormous red flag if it wasn't accepted here), the Yellow Ribbon program and vocational retraining, neither of which are applicable to medical school in any way. Another was the gym reimbursement. It felt like an extremely empty, cheap, and easy way for them to put a bullet point on their recruitment PowerPoint. Like thank you so much for the statistically unlikely probability of dropping $20 a month reimbursement for a gym membership rather than actually having facilities available. Another (which is definitely not specific to here) was the financial advice. Like are you seriously going to charge me $60k a year and then have the balls to offer budgeting advice? As if it's the weekly Starbucks that's really doing me in? Pyramid schemes do that, schools shouldn't. In a similar vein, the part about financial aid didn't mention anything about scholarships they offer. It's simply "we'll help you find scholarships [elsewhere]". So my impression is that they are unwilling to offer any actual financial aid, they'll just tell you how to better spend your money.

Another speaker said they had a 100% match rate and attributed it to their student success department (or some similar name, I don't remember). I've heard from a few alumni and current students about their experiences with the school (before today) and a common complaint I heard was about a lack of guidance into rotations and residency. When asked if their students got into the specialties they wanted (I'm assuming rather shoehorned into FM and IM), they gave another non-answer about it depending on the student. So we have "an entire department dedicated to student success" that doesn't provide board prep, (anecdotally) hasn't been very proactive in guiding students towards their desired residencies, but at least you get an iPad your first year. I wanted to ask the student affairs lady "What is it you say... you do here?". Very similarly, the same speaker mentioned "we've had a few perfect scores [on USMLE and COMLEX]" and "the nations highest scores" which he again attributed to the curriculum saying something like "they just studied our curriculum very thoroughly". Another question was about whether their graduates actually practice in rural Washington and his non-answer was an anecdote about someone practicing in Detroit that wanted to move back to Yakima. Like fine, that specific case sure, but the question was referring to how successful has PNWU been in its mission statement (i.e. the alumni as a whole).

To quote my favorite movie: "We got a word for that kind of odd in English. It's called 'suspicious'".
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Honestly, you are a wizard. A lot of what was said I took as face value, just happy to be getting an interview invite. But what you said holds real weight, and is definitely necessary for the decision process when choosing which medical school to go to. Thank you!! I need to be more like you lol.
 
Mr. Jollof said:
Honestly, you are a wizard. A lot of what was said I took as face value, just happy to be getting an interview invite. But what you said holds real weight, and is definitely necessary for the decision process when choosing which medical school to go to. Thank you!! I need to be more like you lol.
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Lol thank you, but I am sure you are a phenomenal human being yourself 🙂 I am only able to say this and be this critical because I have an acceptance elsewhere. Without that, I'd look past everything I just said and enroll in PNWU tomorrow. At the end of the day, it's 4 years and a lot of debt but you get to be a doctor.
 
TheBlueSnail said:
Yeah, that's pretty accurate. He started it off by saying SDN and our peers are brainwashing the student body to use these tools (Anki, Pathoma, First Aid). What really got me is he didn't even know what Anki is, yet completely trashed it. Like I really don't want to be anywhere near you if this is your best foot forward...



I'm going to start with I was seriously considering this school until 30 minutes into the presentation. I do not want to dissuade anyone from applying or attending, a few friends of mine love it there because of the faculty. Maybe I'm reading a bit into this but I just got a very shady vibe from today's presentation. I'm not calling anyone out, and I fully recognize that I have a tiny view of this school, but a few things just didn't sit well with me.

It felt like the school's presentation was mostly fluff. They had a slide talking about paying for school with something like "veteran benefits" on their slide. Someone asked for specifics, and the answer they got had nothing to do with medical school. They said the GI bill (which would be an enormous red flag if it wasn't accepted here), the Yellow Ribbon program and vocational retraining, neither of which are applicable to medical school in any way. Another was the gym reimbursement. It felt like an extremely empty, cheap, and easy way for them to put a bullet point on their recruitment PowerPoint. Like thank you so much for the statistically unlikely probability of dropping $20 a month reimbursement for a gym membership rather than actually having facilities available. Another (which is definitely not specific to here) was the financial advice. Like are you seriously going to charge me $60k a year and then have the balls to offer budgeting advice? As if it's the weekly Starbucks that's really doing me in? Pyramid schemes do that, schools shouldn't. In a similar vein, the part about financial aid didn't mention anything about scholarships they offer. It's simply "we'll help you find scholarships [elsewhere]". So my impression is that they are unwilling to offer any actual financial aid, they'll just tell you how to better spend your money.

Another speaker said they had a 100% match rate and attributed it to their student success department (or some similar name, I don't remember). I've heard from a few alumni and current students about their experiences with the school (before today) and a common complaint I heard was about a lack of guidance into rotations and residency. When asked if their students got into the specialties they wanted (I'm assuming rather shoehorned into FM and IM), they gave another non-answer about it depending on the student. So we have "an entire department dedicated to student success" that doesn't provide board prep, (anecdotally) hasn't been very proactive in guiding students towards their desired residencies, but at least you get an iPad your first year. I wanted to ask the student affairs lady "What is it you say... you do here?". Very similarly, the same speaker mentioned "we've had a few perfect scores [on USMLE and COMLEX]" and "the nations highest scores" which he again attributed to the curriculum saying something like "they just studied our curriculum very thoroughly". Another question was about whether their graduates actually practice in rural Washington and his non-answer was an anecdote about someone practicing in Detroit that wanted to move back to Yakima. Like fine, that specific case sure, but the question was referring to how successful has PNWU been in its mission statement (i.e. the alumni as a whole).

To quote my favorite movie: "We got a word for that kind of odd in English. It's called 'suspicious'".
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Ah man. That kind of concerns me, especially since this is my only II thus far.

Of course, beggers can’t be choosers, especially since my numbers aren’t hot.
 
Drsecondchance said:
Any US school is going to get you across the finish line if you do the work. If you get another choice, you might pick it, but if you don't, go here and make the most of it. You'll be a doctor when you're done!
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I agree with this! I won’t have the luxury of being extra picky about what program I go to. That means that I need to be aware of what a program lacks - and then know if I’m capable of taking that on as a personal responsibility. If this school doesn’t crush specifically at board prep, then I’m glad I know that now because I can make sure I place heavy emphasis on it for myself. At the end of the day we can be accountable for a lot on our own. Would it be nice if they did everything top notch? Certainly. But that’s not the reality so all we can do is be aware and prepare. There’s a lot more about this program that I like which makes me feel as if this will still be a great fit for me. And at the end of the day, I just wanna be a physician - any path will do!
 
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, the Yellow Ribbon program and vocational retraining, neither of which are applicable to medical school in any way.
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You can definitely use those for medical school. Or is that not what you were getting at?

I mean I think it seemed pretty on-par with any other info session.
 
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