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Did you get to ask about the consortium email at all? lol

No I forgot lol. But honestly we all know deep down inside they aren’t sending that shii to someone they are for sure admitting. I got something similar from ucsf then got rejected. However I didn’t even get an II w them, so I didn’t even get the chance to be wl. But I feel like they spam sent it to everyone w/o an A. So most likely you shouldn’t let it allow you to feel like it’s the kiss of death. And when you click the link it says the deadline for the post bac consortium is may 16th, so my intuition tells me the genuinely don’t even know if we are gonna get off the wl or get rejected, but they just want to present us an opportunity to strengthen our app b4 the deadline. So a money grab but a helpful one ig.

 

[jtvle]

No I forgot lol. But honestly we all know deep down inside they aren’t sending that shii to someone they are for sure admitting. I got something similar from ucsf then got rejected. However I didn’t even get an II w them, so I didn’t even get the chance to be wl. But I feel like they spam sent it to everyone w/o an A. So most likely you shouldn’t let it allow you to feel like it’s the kiss of death. And when you click the link it says the deadline for the post bac consortium is may 16th, so my intuition tells me the genuinely don’t even know if we are gonna get off the wl or get rejected, but they just want to present us an opportunity to strengthen our app b4 the deadline. So a money grab but a helpful one ig.

Do you know if they have been sending offers since the first drop on 4/30?

 

[Luckyduckcoin]

Do you know if they have been sending offers since the first drop on 4/30?

No lol. Just out of curiosity why does it matter? People are still going to withdraw as they get into other attractive options.

 

[purple3081]

I bit the bullet and called. Just got off the phone literally rn. here’s the whole spill. She said: from what it looks like the waitlist is moving more than what it was last year. I was like wow really. Then I asked her how do they choose who to fill the withdrew seat. She goes the adcom meets and forms a list. Once again this leads me to believe even though it’s unranked it’s ranked. I asked her if it was unranked wouldn’t it make sense just to premake a list and just go down that list instead of them having to reconvene every time someone withdraws. She said it depends on who withdraws. Ding ding dinggg once again leads me to believe it’s ranked. Idk why these schools say it’s unranked when it is. Even though they have top priority and reg I still think there’s ranking within those 2 categories. But also I want you guys to know there’s hope, because she said there’s still gonna be lots more waitlist movement till June. I asked her when in June does it stop. She said wl movement typically stops around EARLY June. I tried to be as thorough with my questions so I could feed yall as much as possible because it’s so stressful rn and we need these questions answered lol. And she said she couldn’t share when next set of As are released. And she told me to keep my fingers crossed and if I had anymore questions to reach out.

I wonder based on what metrics it seems like waitlist movement is more this year if they haven’t even finished the top of the waitlist people yet 😭

 

[jtvle]

No lol. Just out of curiosity why does it matter? People are still going to withdraw as they get into other attractive options.

Haha I guess I was just trying to see if they're sending the offers as a space opens or in waves

 

[Luckyduckcoin]

I wonder based on what metrics it seems like waitlist movement is more this year if they haven’t even finished the top of the waitlist people yet 😭

In all honesty my theory I’ve been preaching like a broken record is the whole unranked waitlist agenda gives them the opportunity to intentionally choose who they want to withdraw off the wl outside of stats. The way I see it if they interviewed you in the first place you’re obviously qualified enough metric wise to be admitted. Of course your interviewing/people skills is import too but I think what they care most about outside of metrics which get you in the door for an ii is who you are. Wdym by who you are you ask? What are your experiences can you contribute to the class, what race are you, are you male or female, what’s your sexuality etc. obviously there’s no way in hell they will admit 170 Latino male gay doctors. That’s not what the patient population in the real world reflects. So they curate a med school class to their taste that is diverse with high stats. And as those people get into better choices like Harvard for example, they get an identical waitlister to replace them ex. A white army vet male withdraws, they might find someone similar who is also a w male who’s a vet (probably with lower stats or a lower interview score). It’s obviously not a 1:1 identical copy lol, that’s why lower stat applicants tend to be wl then get off.

 

[purple3081]

In all honesty my theory I’ve been preaching like a broken record is the whole unranked waitlist agenda gives them the opportunity to intentionally choose who they want to withdraw off the wl outside of stats. The way I see it if they interviewed you in the first place you’re obviously qualified enough metric wise to be admitted. Of course your interviewing/people skills is import too but I think what they care most about outside of metrics which get you in the door for an ii is who you are. Wdym by who you are you ask? What are your experiences can you contribute to the class, what race are you, are you male or female, what’s your sexuality etc. obviously there’s no way in hell they will admit 170 Latino male gay doctors. That’s not what the patient population in the real world reflects. So they curate a med school class to their taste that is diverse with high stats. And as those people get into better choices like Harvard for example, they get an identical waitlister to replace them ex. A white army vet male withdraws, they might find someone similar who is also a w male who’s a vet (probably with lower stats or a lower interview score). It’s obviously not a 1:1 identical copy lol, that’s why lower stat applicants tend to be wl then get off.

No that definitely makes a lot of sense! I just don’t really understand how they’re both ranked and unranked at the same time? I mean the person on the phone admitted that they have SOME kind’ve list right?

 

[Luckyduckcoin]

No that definitely makes a lot of sense! I just don’t really understand how they’re both ranked and unranked at the same time? I mean the person on the phone admitted that they have SOME kind’ve list right?

Ahhh I see where you’re confused. She definitely used the term “list”. So yes they get together and come up with a list. It’s ranked in the sense that there’s a two tier ranking system (top priority and reg). And “unranked” because they try to make it seem like everyone has an equal opportunity to get off the wl when someone withdraws when in actuality that’s not the case.

 

[purple3081]

Ahhh I see where you’re confused. She definitely used the term “list”. So yes they get together and come up with a list. It’s ranked in the sense that there’s a two tier ranking system (top priority and reg). And “unranked” because they try to make it seem like everyone has an equal opportunity to get off the wl when someone withdraws when in actuality that’s not the case.

Ahhhh that makes a lot of sense. Thank you!

 

[artemisqueen]

Kinda odd that they said it's moving more than last year, when there were already regular WL acceptance the first few days

 

[purple3081]

Kinda odd that they said it's moving more than last year, when there were already regular WL acceptance the first few days

Maybe by movement she meant like more people are dropping this year compared to last year?

 

[Luckyduckcoin]

Kinda odd that they said it's moving more than last year, when there were already regular WL acceptance the first few days

This could be case in point to my theory lol. They may have put someone on reg wl accidentally that matched who just withdrew 🤣

 

[artemisqueen]

Alright I guess we keep fighting and hoping for the best! Wishing us all the acceptance soon <3

 

[purple3081]

Or maybe that the people they offered WL positions to are turning it down. DGSOM was my dream school but the COA is making me break out into a sweat. 98K/yr for in-state. For reference, UCSD is 68K/yr AND they give a **** ton of need-based non-loan aid.

Geez. So does that mean for instate students their average debt comes over to around 350k + ?

 

[User1776]

Geez. So does that mean for instate students their average debt comes over to around 350k + ?

I guess… The fixed costs I can’t do anything about are the 53K/yr tuition + health insurance and the student housing that will come out 20K/yr. Maybe if I only eat ramen noodles everyday I can squeak out a total COA of 75K/yr

 

[carpe_diem_to_medschool]

Apparently DGSOM got sued this past week for unfair acceptance policies related to racial discrimination? Could contribute to delay in admissions/WL movement

 

[artemisqueen]

Apparently DGSOM got sued this past week for unfair acceptance policies related to racial discrimination? Could contribute to delay in admissions/WL movement

Woah where did you hear that from?

 

[omitb24]

Woah where did you hear that from?

Federal lawsuit alleges UCLA medical school uses a race-based admissions process

Lawsuit: UCLA med school discriminates against white, Asian applicants

UCLA medical school hit with class-action lawsuit for allegedly still using race-based admissions process

didn't believe it until I looked it up. wow!

 

[purple3081]

The biggest criticizers of UCLA and UCSF on SDN/Reddit aren’t waitlisted students trying to manipulate waitlist odds in their favor (such as pointed out earlier) but rather MOST of it comes from students that are against the diversity focused admissions process used by these two schools. It’s actually quite sad though because I truly believe UCLA has some of the most holistic admissions process. I’m an Asian applicant with a low MCAT and still had the opportunity to interview here and be on the waitlist. I’m sure there’s other ORM applicants, just like myself, who were evaluated beyond stats unlike how this lawsuit describes it. I think it’s really unfortunate the way these articles paint UCLA.

 

[Luckyduckcoin]

The biggest criticizers of UCLA and UCSF on SDN/Reddit aren’t always waitlisted students trying to manipulate waitlist odds in their favor (such as pointed out earlier) but rather MOST of it comes from students that are against the diversity focused admissions process used by these two schools. It’s actually quite sad though because I truly believe UCLA has some of the most holistic admissions process. I’m an Asian applicant with a low MCAT and still had the opportunity to interview here and be on the waitlist. I’m sure there’s other ORM applicants, just like myself, who were evaluated beyond stats unlike how this lawsuit describes it. I think it’s really unfortunate the way these articles paint UCLA.

And the thing is I totally understand ORM frustration. It sucks to work really hard and not get what you want. But also on the other side of the coin, in no world would it make sense not to have urm physicians. A lot of urms come from disadvantaged backgrounds. They reflect the general population and their lived experiences contribute to the betterment of medical practices in urm patients. And in all honesty when you really look at it only like 5 % of doctors in the us are latinx and same goes for black physicians. They make it seem like 50% of the physician population are affirmative action hires lol. Even if they completely eradicate holistic admissions I doubt these crybabies would have much of a higher chance of getting in lol.

 

[Lakers$]

Also if I saw the stats right 8-12 percent of the class is compose of minorities in medicine.

 

[xDNA]

The former UCLA/Drew program carried alot of the diversity for DGSOM, with CDU having its own med school and the dissolution of the UCLA/Drew program, alot of students theorized that there might have been a drop in URM representation. I have not followed up on the newer classes demographics. but even with the former UCLA/Drew program the class of 180 generally had probably less the <30% minorities. I know for my class. you can fit all the african american students in one small class room. its like 20 of us. lol

 

[purple3081]

Is this lawsuit going to affect how the rest of the waitlist plays out?

 

[Luckyduckcoin]

Is this lawsuit going to affect how the rest of the waitlist plays out?

Lmao most likely the block is hot.

 

[poopy2000]

The biggest criticizers of UCLA and UCSF on SDN/Reddit aren’t waitlisted students trying to manipulate waitlist odds in their favor (such as pointed out earlier) but rather MOST of it comes from students that are against the diversity focused admissions process used by these two schools. It’s actually quite sad though because I truly believe UCLA has some of the most holistic admissions process. I’m an Asian applicant with a low MCAT and still had the opportunity to interview here and be on the waitlist. I’m sure there’s other ORM applicants, just like myself, who were evaluated beyond stats unlike how this lawsuit describes it. I think it’s really unfortunate the way these articles paint UCLA.

I fully agree. I was also an Asian male with a 123 on CARS but they were extremely forgiving bc I'm ESL & low-SES. I never even expected an interview let alone a WL from UCLA.

 

[purple3081]

Lmao most likely the block is hot.

I just don’t know in what way it would affect it. Is this going to hurt URM applicants?

 

[xDNA]

I just don’t know in what way it would affect it. Is this going to hurt URM applicants?

The truth is you'll probably never know. My guess, is that it wont be a drastic change in student demographics tbh. I have confidence in Dr. Lucero and UCLA that they'll stick to their commitment to reviewing holistically and addressing the need of a diverse physician workforce. I didnt meet UCLA standard by any metric, but I was blessed with an opportunity to be here after getting pulled from the WL, and I'm so grateful and im thriving. For those who are on the WL, I remember I got off the WL about 2wks after CTE. I was planning to attend SLU prior to getting off the WL at UCLA and even getting off the WL I had no issues getting grad housing. I stayed at Hilgard, my first year and half or so. and Hilgard if available is a place i would rank highly btw. its really convenient

 

[abc123212321]

The truth is you'll probably never know. My guess, is that it wont be a drastic change in student demographics tbh. I have confidence in Dr. Lucero and UCLA that they'll stick to their commitment to reviewing holistically and addressing the need of a diverse physician workforce. I didnt meet UCLA standard by any metric, but I was blessed with an opportunity to be here after getting pulled from the WL, and I'm so grateful and im thriving. For those who are on the WL, I remember I got off the WL about 2wks after CTE. I was planning to attend SLU prior to getting off the WL at UCLA and even getting off the WL I had no issues getting grad housing. I stayed at Hilgard, my first year and half or so. and Hilgard if available is a place i would rank highly btw. its really convenient

You CTE’d at SLU and still got off the waitlist at UCLA? I thought we weren’t allowed to remain on any waitlists after our CTE date. Or did you let UCLA know you wanted to remain on the waitlist?

 

[xDNA]

You CTE’d at SLU and still got off the waitlist at UCLA? I thought we weren’t allowed to remain on any waitlists after our CTE date. Or did you let UCLA know you wanted to remain on the waitlist?

I may be using the terminology incorrect. I got my acceptance 2 weeks after everyone was able to only have 1 acceptance, but can stay on WL. i dont remember if thats CTE or Plan to enroll.

 

[purple3081]

Do we think anything will be released this week?

 

[User1776]

June 2nd is the CTE deadline for UCLA. By then they will for sure know what their class size looks like! People are still withdrawing the waitlist offers that were made on April 30

 

[meoopsshiba]

June 2nd is the CTE deadline for UCLA. By then they will for sure know what their class size looks like! People are still withdrawing the waitlist offers that were made on April 30

Just curious, are you planning on attending UCLA?

 

[purple3081]

Also I called and asked admissions about the UID thing. They said that for some of the waitlisted students it shows up and some don’t but it’s just cause the system automatically generates it randomly. She said it doesn’t mean anything and that people without UID’s have been accepted

 

[carpe_diem_to_medschool]

June 2nd is the CTE deadline for UCLA. By then they will for sure know what their class size looks like! People are still withdrawing the waitlist offers that were made on April 30

Don't people have a 5 business day deadline for those offers?

 

[carpe_diem_to_medschool]

Also I called and asked admissions about the UID thing. They said that for some of the waitlisted students it shows up and some don’t but it’s just cause the system automatically generates it randomly. She said it doesn’t mean anything and that people without UID’s have been accepted

Thanks for this update purple! Did you get to ask about the UC Postbacc Consortium email?

 

[purple3081]

Thanks for this update purple! Did you get to ask about the UC Postbacc Consortium email?

Yes I did actually! She said that they just sent that email as a mass email only because the deadline is close. She said it doesn’t mean anything at all and it was sent to thousands of students

 

[carpe_diem_to_medschool]

Yes I did actually! She said that they just sent that email as a mass email only because the deadline is close. She said it doesn’t mean anything at all and it was sent to thousands of students

You're the GOAT. That's a relief

 

[Ziriyab]

I know this is a minuscule percentage of applicants, but has anyone heard back from PRIME-LA?

 

[artemisqueen]

Also I called and asked admissions about the UID thing. They said that for some of the waitlisted students it shows up and some don’t but it’s just cause the system automatically generates it randomly. She said it doesn’t mean anything and that people without UID’s have been accepted

Did they tell you anything about WL movement?

 

[purple3081]

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Did they tell you anything about WL movement?

Yes, they said that there has been more movement this year compared to last year. I asked what she meant by "movement" and she said that more students have been dropping their offers this year compared to last year. I asked if there has been any delays to releasing offers this year considering that there hasn't been anything sent since April 30th and she said that there's still a lot of students that are holding multiple offers. She said that they have been urging accepted students to drop their acceptances if they know they will not be attending but she said that it appears that this year students are taking longer to make a decision either due to financial reasons or something else. She said that there will be more acceptances but she doesn't know when they will be released but that students have until June 2nd to decide. She just said to be patient for right now and once they have a better idea of how many students will or will not be attending they will release more acceptances. She did not indicate the amount of acceptances that would be released or around when to expect.

 

[artemisqueen]

Yes, they said that there has been more movement this year compared to last year. I asked what she meant by "movement" and she said that more students have been dropping their offers this year compared to last year. I asked if there has been any delays to releasing offers this year considering that there hasn't been anything sent since April 30th and she said that there's still a lot of students that are holding multiple offers. She said that they have been urging accepted students to drop their acceptances if they know they will not be attending but she said that it appears that this year students are taking longer to make a decision either due to financial reasons or something else. She said that there will be more acceptances but she doesn't know when they will be released but that students have until June 2nd to decide. She just said to be patient for right now and once they have a better idea of how many students will or will not be attending they will release more acceptances. She did not indicate the amount of acceptances that would be released and around when to expect.

You’re literally the best. Thank you for sharing this update! Hopefully we’ll be classmates in UCLA 💛

 

[purple3081]

You’re literally the best. Thank you for sharing this update! Hopefully we’ll be classmates in UCLA 💛

aw this is so sweet! thank you so much i hope so too <3

 

[carpe_diem_to_medschool]

Yes, they said that there has been more movement this year compared to last year. I asked what she meant by "movement" and she said that more students have been dropping their offers this year compared to last year. I asked if there has been any delays to releasing offers this year considering that there hasn't been anything sent since April 30th and she said that there's still a lot of students that are holding multiple offers. She said that they have been urging accepted students to drop their acceptances if they know they will not be attending but she said that it appears that this year students are taking longer to make a decision either due to financial reasons or something else. She said that there will be more acceptances but she doesn't know when they will be released but that students have until June 2nd to decide. She just said to be patient for right now and once they have a better idea of how many students will or will not be attending they will release more acceptances. She did not indicate the amount of acceptances that would be released or around when to expect.

Just wondering, did they seem to agree that no additional acceptances have been sent out since April 30th?

 

[purple3081]

Just wondering, did they seem to agree that no additional acceptances have been sent out since April 30th?

Yes she was really sweet and acknowledged that they haven’t sent anything since then. She said something a long the lines of “I’m a super impatient person myself so I totally understand how frustrating it is to wait. On my end, I’ve been waiting too for some more acceptances to be released but nothing has been sent so far”

 

[abc123212321]

I really hope they do send out more acceptances before 6/2 considering a lot of schools’ CTE deadline is the same or earlier

 

[junebloom123]

If the school has a lot of open seats as they stated, wouldn't they want to pull people off the WL to fill them asap?

 

[purple3081]

If the school has a lot of open seats as they stated, wouldn't they want to pull people off the WL to fill them asap?

That’s what doesn’t make sense to me either tbh. Especially with CTE coming up for a lot of people I don’t understand how just waiting and watching makes any sense

 

[jtvle]

That’s what doesn’t make sense to me either tbh. Especially with CTE coming up for a lot of people I don’t understand how just waiting and watching makes any sense

Could it have something to do with the lawsuit but they just can’t talk about it?

 

[purple3081]

Could it have something to do with the lawsuit but they just can’t talk about it?

Who knows 🙁 if there’s anyone that’s in the accepted groupchat that can give some insight into what the headspace is amongst accepted students and whether or not it seems like a lot of students are still on the fence would be really helpful!

 

[junebloom123]

Who knows 🙁 if there’s anyone that’s in the accepted groupchat that can give some insight into what the headspace is amongst accepted students and whether or not it seems like a lot of students are still on the fence would be really helpful!

And if someone can provide the # of people in the gc!