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WildZoo said:
@Animal Midwife is lurking 😱

Probably shaking her head at the fact that there is...one vote on the board right now. Come on guys, you can't beat the wolves if you don't even try to lynch them!
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well I had one on the board and then talked myself out of it. Does the just stick with your gut rule apply in end game WW??
 
FINAL Day 1 Spice Up Your Life Lynch Tally

hemorroidz (4) - kras, mel, mutts, mayo
genny (1) - cubs
nav/mpm () -
am (1) - MsP
jboose () -
pipsy (3) - ziggy, alissa, hemorroidz
WZ (1) - sporty
cubs (1) - genny
mel (1) - vmh
mayo (2) - jboose, mpm
alissa (1) - miz
miz (1) - pipsy
sporty (1) - dina
barks (1) - SOV
kras (2) - AM, WZ
mutts (1) - barks

21/23
Missing: 3M-afflac, Nav-mpm
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Day 2 Pipe Dream *FINAL* Lynch Tally

kras (2) - miz, alissa
AM (1) - kras
SOV (1) - Pippy
MsP (5) - jboose, ziggy, WZ, AM, Sporty
mutts (2) - Barks, AFFLAC
Sporty (4) - vmh, dina, SOV, Mel
vmh ()
AFFLAC (1) - mutts
alissa (1) - mayo
Nav-mpm (1) - cubs
cubs (1) - genny

19/21
Missing: Nav-mpm, MsP
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Day 3 Life's not all just sparkles and rainbows Lynch Tally
ziggy ()
Pippy () -
nav-mpm (1) - alissa
kras (2) - AM, ziggy
vmh (3) - jboose, sporty, mutts
mel (2) - nav-mpm?, Pippy
Mutts() -
alissa (5) - barks, mayo, miz, cubs, AFFlocky
cubs (3) - SOV, vmh, kras
miz () -
Sov (1) - dina
Dina (1) - Mel

18/19
Missing: genny
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Day 4 Battle of the (Boy) Bands Lynch Tally:

mutts (2) - Pippy, mayo
vmh (2) - jbOOSE, mutts
cubs (-) - SOV
kras (5) - AM, miz, vmh, Dina, ziggy
Pippy (1) - kras
Dina (1) - Mel
sov (1) - cubs
ziggy (1) - barks
mayo (1) - genny

14/17
missing: Nav-mpm afflac SOV
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Day 5 More Fun Than A Pillow Fight Lynch Tally

ziggy (1) - AM
vmh (1) - mutts
mayo (2) - Mel, ziggy
mutts (4) - cubs, vmh, Dina, genny
genny () -
jboose () -
Mel (6) - Pippy, mayo, mpm, jboo, afflac, miz

14/15
missing: SOV
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Day 6 [insert your favorite tv show here] Final Lynch Tally:

Dina (5) - AFFLAC, miz, SOV, cubs, ziggy
SOV ()
ziggy (4) - Pippy, AM, mpm, mayo
mayo (1) - vmh
genny (1) - mutts
miz (1) - genny
vmh () -

12/13 votes
Missing: Dina
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Day 7 Gaming Abounds Lynch Tally
ziggy (7) - SOV, genny, vmh, mayo, miz, pippy, Afflac
SOV ()
mutts ()
vmh (3) - ziggy, mpm, cubs,

10/11
missing: Mutts
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Day 8 UNOFFICIAL Blue Barracudas vs. Orange Iguanas Lynch Tally
mutts (3) - cubs, vmh, genny
genny (1) - SOV
SOV () -
vmh (4) - mpm, pippy, miz, afflac
afflac (1) - mutts

9/9
 
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StartingoverVet said:
Because I am in a conference all day, and everyone is complaining I am not participating. Geez I can’t win.
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Sorry -- I wasn't asking from a perspective of participation, I was asking because aren't you afraid of being killed? Usually when I'm an info-gathering role, I don't post targets before close in case wolves see it and get nervous and kill me before I can get an answer.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Mutts came back as a dojo hound.
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And so this works if you are some kind of PR parity seer...but can you please check your results/ask the mods if all of your previous results are correct? Because if they are correct, then we should probably lynch genny.

If that is not the case, then the wolves are most likely you and Miz, and you lied about your role/your result on her.

And tbph, I like my village read on genny more than I like my read on you at the moment because you keep popping in <once a day and dropping results without any analysis attached. So this is why I am struggling with trying to figure out who to believe here.
 
StartingoverVet said:
N1: miz. Not
N2: sport: Not
N3: Cubs - yes
N4 : Barks - yes
N5: no one
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So, this is what you posted earlier for targets. So your full target list looks like:

N1Miz - ?No
N2Sporty - vanillaNo
N3Cubs - PRYes
N4Barks - PRYes
N5--
N6Ziggy - PRYes
N7genny - ?Yes
N8Mutts - PRYes
(this is in a table because it's going to get checked against some other abilities when I'm out of class, and I want to have it partially filled out).

Why no target N5?
 
Also I don’t agree with this dialogue that I am not participating. I had 2 days without internet access and did my best, but otherwise I have posted everyday and har
PippyPony said:
Sorry -- I wasn't asking from a perspective of participation, I was asking because aren't you afraid of being killed? Usually when I'm an info-gathering role, I don't post targets before close in case wolves see it and get nervous and kill me before I can get an answer.
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that is a fair point...but i (probably naively) assumes no one pays attention early in the morning right before close.
 
PippyPony said:
And so this works if you are some kind of PR parity seer...but can you please check your results/ask the mods if all of your previous results are correct? Because if they are correct, then we should probably lynch genny.

If that is not the case, then the wolves are most likely you and Miz, and you lied about your role/your result on her.

And tbph, I like my village read on genny more than I like my read on you at the moment because you keep popping in <once a day and dropping results without any analysis attached. So this is why I am struggling with trying to figure out who to believe here.
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I don’t really know what I am. I have asked before (because of your theory about the barkley night) and they have said they have not made a mistake in reporting my results. :shrug:
 
StartingoverVet said:
I get virtually the same result from mods each time. The way I say it on thread is just a lack of typing patience tbh and does Not reflect any differences in reporting,
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Virtually the same?
I think it might actually be important if there are any differences, because there was a ninja wolf who was caught by a tracker by very slight difference in wording.
 
PippyPony said:
So, this is what you posted earlier for targets. So your full target list looks like:

N1Miz - ?No
N2Sporty - vanillaNo
N3Cubs - PRYes
N4Barks - PRYes
N5--
N6Ziggy - PRYes
N7genny - ?Yes
N8Mutts - PRYes
(this is in a table because it's going to get checked against some other abilities when I'm out of class, and I want to have it partially filled out).

Why no target N5?
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Correct.

Day 5 I worked all day and came home to zero internet access at night so I sent no request to mods. I should have asked kaydubs ( who I texted with) to check someone randomly, but I was not really too happy with the world at that point. Mea culpa.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Correct.

Day 5 I worked all day and came home to zero internet access at night so I sent no request to mods. I should have asked kaydubs ( who I texted with) to check someone randomly, but I was not really too happy with the world at that point. Mea culpa.
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No smart phone? I'm almost tempted to call you a boomer 😉
 
I think sov/miz is still my favorite scenario despite what I'm about to say in my next paragraph. I do think there are probably 3 wolves left though, so if they are right, we'd need to figure out who is left. The third one might be mutts here, but I'm not sure.

@muttmanager have you completely given up on your D1 tinfoil? I'm curious what you think, since genny Cubs and Pippy have made it to endgame. What gives me pause here is that if Pippy is a wolf I'll be terrified about playing with her in the future lol. Genny and Pippy have been buddy buddy for days, which is also hugely gutsy to do as a wolf and makes me want to lean them village. But this kind of started happening the first day that could have been (*ylo).

~no one else has evidence of there being a blocker, right? Just those two~

I swear mutts if you got it right immediately I'll nominate you for the WW awards next year (unless you are their buddy). I don't know...

The problem is, I see two separate "packs" and idk how to feel anymore because one is the village block and the other is the wolf pack and I think I know which is which but it also scares the **** out of me. Help I've only been to lylo like 3 times lol

-----if we are choosing to lynch the sov/miz side of things, I'd prefer a miz lynch. If we lynch SOV and he's a wolf we don't know for sure that miz is, but if we lynch miz and she is a wolf with a PR then we know sov is----

@StartingoverVet why didn't you look at genny? Mutts had openly claimed something so it was kind of a wasted night/ used to create distancing if you ask me

Who was it that said mutts was 100% a wolf yesterday? Do you still feel that way? And why?

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mypetmoose said:
The problem is, I see two separate "packs" and idk how to feel anymore because one is the village block and the other is the wolf pack and I think I know which is which but it also scares the **** out of me. Help I've only been to lylo like 3 times lol
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This is exactly how I feel.

The good news is that I think you're in the village bloc regardless of which pack I think is correct haha
 
PippyPony said:
This is exactly how I feel.

The good news is that I think you're in the village bloc regardless of which pack I think is correct haha
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Is there anything you can say to make me not tinfoil-y about the blocking situation? If not for that I'd have you as my top village read... I mean I'm like 80% comfortable with you but I want someone to be 100%, ya know?

To the person who stopped Ziggy, I'm kind of feeling like now may be the time to pipe in. Use your best judgement, obviously, but I'd like to narrow my lynch choices.

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This may help someone... hopefully it does, because after compiling it, I am getting the feeling that I'm looking at a puzzle and have one remaining piece but I still can't see where it goes... even though there is a giant spot for it in the center haha

SOV - Player Y/NBlockedSlimedCubsPMBarksMelNKMutts
N1Miz - ?Nogenny ?N/AZiggyMeSportympmjailed
N2Sporty - vanillaNoSportyMelmeNavslimedWZBarks
N3Cubs - PRYesmevmhgennyCubsDina -sportySportme
N4Barks - PRYesmeAMmpm--Barks - SOV ?Barksmiz
N5( )( )meMuttsafflac--jmooslimed
N6Ziggy - PRYesmeZiggyvmhAMcubs (2x?)
N7genny - ?Yesme(vmh)muttsmayompm
N8Mutts - PRYesme :lame:--?afflac?

Role claims
Mutts - blockbuster "poker"
Miz - beanie baby vanilla
mpm - dixie cup vanilla
SOV - tae bo ?info gather?
genny - no claim
Cubs - AOL instant messenger PMer

I think the two packs I see right now are genny & mutts or miz & SOV...if there are 3 wolves left then my head starts to hurt.

No evidence wolves got a convert but I have admittedly not been reading the last few write ups incredibly closely
 
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mypetmoose said:
Is there anything you can say to make me not tinfoil-y about the blocking situation? If not for that I'd have you as my top village read... I mean I'm like 80% comfortable with you but I want someone to be 100%, ya know?
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The presence of a "broken internet connection" blocker was confirmed by jboo, who saw Sporty be blocked on N2.

If the wolves had blocked any other villager over the past few days, I'm sure someone would have said something to contradict me, since I have not been quiet about it.

If you want to be really paranoid and think about the options of me as a wolf, the options are:
- they stopped blocking me and so now I'm faking it, which would be a total waste of their only way to counter to the sliming and any other dangerous PR like seering. Also, there is no evidence that I have made anything to help them (no double kills, for example).
- they have continued to actually block wolf-me to hope it soft clears me, but then they would miss out on me making wolfy items, which would be a huge loss to the pack. I have very few limits on my role and have been in wolf packs with a tinkerer before, so believe me when I say would have a lot of ideas for weapon manufacturing. It also would stop me from doing pack kills which is not something I would approve in late game because it makes me claustrophobic just to think about it lol
- they blocked another wolf instead, but see option A, and that could easily get all wolves involved killed if there was a village role unaccounted for who could fact check.
 
PippyPony said:
No smart phone? I'm almost tempted to call you a boomer 😉
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Maybe I am embarrassing myself, but my galaxy s10 won’t let me log into sdn. Even though I click to accept cookies every time I try to login it says “you need to accept cookies to use this site”. One more of a long line of frustrations.
 
mypetmoose said:
I think sov/miz is still my favorite scenario despite what I'm about to say in my next paragraph. I do think there are probably 3 wolves left though, so if they are right, we'd need to figure out who is left. The third one might be mutts here, but I'm not sure.

@muttmanager have you completely given up on your D1 tinfoil? I'm curious what you think, since genny Cubs and Pippy have made it to endgame. What gives me pause here is that if Pippy is a wolf I'll be terrified about playing with her in the future lol. Genny and Pippy have been buddy buddy for days, which is also hugely gutsy to do as a wolf and makes me want to lean them village. But this kind of started happening the first day that could have been (*ylo).

~no one else has evidence of there being a blocker, right? Just those two~

I swear mutts if you got it right immediately I'll nominate you for the WW awards next year (unless you are their buddy). I don't know...

The problem is, I see two separate "packs" and idk how to feel anymore because one is the village block and the other is the wolf pack and I think I know which is which but it also scares the **** out of me. Help I've only been to lylo like 3 times lol

-----if we are choosing to lynch the sov/miz side of things, I'd prefer a miz lynch. If we lynch SOV and he's a wolf we don't know for sure that miz is, but if we lynch miz and she is a wolf with a PR then we know sov is----

@StartingoverVet why didn't you look at genny? Mutts had openly claimed something so it was kind of a wasted night/ used to create distancing if you ask me

Who was it that said mutts was 100% a wolf yesterday? Do you still feel that way? And why?

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I looked at Genny before mutts.
 
Lynch genny

It was my gut yesterday. If pippy/mpm are right about pack alignment, then Genny wolf implicates mutts (who I am ok with as well). I know I am not wolf, so I will give miz a pass for now.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Maybe I am embarrassing myself, but my galaxy s10 won’t let me log into sdn. Even though I click to accept cookies every time I try to login it says “you need to accept cookies to use this site”. One more of a long line of frustrations.
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Have you been troubleshooting like this for a while?
 
StartingoverVet said:
Maybe I am embarrassing myself, but my galaxy s10 won’t let me log into sdn.
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PippyPony said:
Have you been troubleshooting like this for a while?
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(I used to work for a large unnamed tech company; I might have some insight into what is going on here. Perhaps can PM after the game)

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PippyPony said:
The presence of a "broken internet connection" blocker was confirmed by jboo, who saw Sporty be blocked on N2.

If the wolves had blocked any other villager over the past few days, I'm sure someone would have said something to contradict me, since I have not been quiet about it.

If you want to be really paranoid and think about the options of me as a wolf, the options are:
- they stopped blocking me and so now I'm faking it, which would be a total waste of their only way to counter to the sliming and any other dangerous PR like seering. Also, there is no evidence that I have made anything to help them (no double kills, for example).
- they have continued to actually block wolf-me to hope it soft clears me, but then they would miss out on me making wolfy items, which would be a huge loss to the pack. I have very few limits on my role and have been in wolf packs with a tinkerer before, so believe me when I say would have a lot of ideas for weapon manufacturing. It also would stop me from doing pack kills which is not something I would approve in late game because it makes me claustrophobic just to think about it lol
- they blocked another wolf instead, but see option A, and that could easily get all wolves involved killed if there was a village role unaccounted for who could fact check.
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I'm like mostly on your side but like... there's another option you didn't consider-- you could have been converted and your ability stopped working after that.

Only thing about that is the blocking now being wasted...

Nvm okay I think I'm with you. Don't let me talk myself out of it.

Why did you trust genny so much again? Because you didn't think she would block you repeatedly? SOV too?

Also, I think I'd like to hear more from cubs today

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mypetmoose said:
I think sov/miz is still my favorite scenario despite what I'm about to say in my next paragraph. I do think there are probably 3 wolves left though, so if they are right, we'd need to figure out who is left. The third one might be mutts here, but I'm not sure.

@muttmanager have you completely given up on your D1 tinfoil? I'm curious what you think, since genny Cubs and Pippy have made it to endgame. What gives me pause here is that if Pippy is a wolf I'll be terrified about playing with her in the future lol. Genny and Pippy have been buddy buddy for days, which is also hugely gutsy to do as a wolf and makes me want to lean them village. But this kind of started happening the first day that could have been (*ylo).

~no one else has evidence of there being a blocker, right? Just those two~

I swear mutts if you got it right immediately I'll nominate you for the WW awards next year (unless you are their buddy). I don't know...

The problem is, I see two separate "packs" and idk how to feel anymore because one is the village block and the other is the wolf pack and I think I know which is which but it also scares the **** out of me. Help I've only been to lylo like 3 times lol

-----if we are choosing to lynch the sov/miz side of things, I'd prefer a miz lynch. If we lynch SOV and he's a wolf we don't know for sure that miz is, but if we lynch miz and she is a wolf with a PR then we know sov is----

@StartingoverVet why didn't you look at genny? Mutts had openly claimed something so it was kind of a wasted night/ used to create distancing if you ask me

Who was it that said mutts was 100% a wolf yesterday? Do you still feel that way? And why?

Sent from my SM-G960U using SDN mobile
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what is causing you to put sov and miz together? I feel like sov/mutts or sov/genny could be. I could see the sov/genny interactions as late game bussing to try to save one of them. Genny did vote sov a few times but I don’t know if she ever actually left a vote on him.

but if in some strange realm that sov is actually village, I could see the same scenario with genny/Miz.
 
mypetmoose said:
Why did you trust genny so much again? Because you didn't think she would block you repeatedly? SOV too?
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genny is a tone read. I had her as wolfy at the beginning of the game but as I said yesterday, I now feel as though she is playing more village. And fwiw I believe her about not blocking me because i know creative roles like item maker are her favorite, which she also mentioned earlier in this game.

I didn't think SOV would block me, but I had him as strong wolf after his first post in the game, and looking back today in light of vmh's flip and reading his responses today, I feel a lot worse about him again.

It's why I am voting there, and will probably stay on that vote from here on out. I see your point about lynching Miz instead, but I think lynching him is by far the most valuable option info-wise for setting up the remaining POE.
 
I think I’m ok with an SOV or miz lynch. I need to go back and look at the roles of the people that SOV had as positive results though to see the commonality. Something is just not fitting right.
 
Also, after looking through the night results to put that table together up there... I have a sneaking suspicion that something wonky happened with the tracking results N4 (like Mel had a nebulous tracker-type role and did something right, but then turned around and messed up his own results...very very plausible in my mind given track record lol) and actually saw SOV with Barks.

Which means that the only evidence we have of SOV's footprints this game are that he was seen interacting with a dead person the night she died.

Which is like, pretty damning.
 
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