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[Lawpy]

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Also why are you reading katamacs more positively?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Can you explain why AM is in your neutral? read?

I miss pleasy's color coded reads list

oh hol' up



shorty, snow, lupin
cray, jaboo, lawp
AM, bark, chaos, trilt

mayo

Msp, samac

AM is a village lean
i don't really have a neutral right now, MsP and samac are the closest to neutral I have

 

[holdthemayo]

I did some quick ISOing and reading and I think this is my current sitiation revised from this morning:

Most Sketch
Pleasey
MsP
Cray
Lupes
Lawps
LIS
Chaos,
Katamac
Shorty
Jboo
Barks
AM
Least Sketch

On quick read through I couldn't find any small things on either MsP (still lacking a lot of content) or Pleasey to lean them more village, so the distinction is mostly ~vibes~.

##lynch pleasey##

Can I have a color

Maybe Purple
or
Rainbow

 

[Lawpy]

oh hol' up



shorty, snow, lupin
cray, jaboo, lawp
AM, bark, chaos, trilt

mayo

Msp, samac

AM is a village lean
i don't really have a neutral right now, MsP and samac are the closest to neutral I have

Can you explain gently your Trouts and chaos reads?

 

[Trilt]

Can I have a color

Maybe Purple
or
Rainbow

If you want to be neutral, you need to accept you don't count. 😛

(Actually I use yellow for neutral usually).

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Can you explain gently your Trouts and chaos reads?

trout is in villig lean for tone, helped by being on mid-early cyn vote. the read will likely get pushed in a stronger direction once i have the chance and energy to iso interactions

chaos is bc i'm not sure what to make of the interactions w z, and i have "not too hot, last on cyn" for the vca notes, but i think the tone is villig and a lot of the tone differences i chalk up to not playing how conversationally we do on sdn
but chaos is one of the most flexible reads i have, like right on the edge of my villig

 

[holdthemayo]

Shorty says I won

 

[Trilt]

Why is lupins closer to your most sketch side

I don't have any actual things telling me she's not sketch, just general good vibes and a strong feeling she wouldn't let a wolfpack behave the way this one has.

Pleasey still leaving AM in neutrals might be telling me enough to push that lynch though, lol.

 

[supershorty]

Shorty says I won

Wait what? Did you mean to post this in the Among Us thread?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I don't have any actual things telling me she's not sketch, just general good vibes and a strong feeling she wouldn't let a wolfpack behave the way this one has.

Pleasey still leaving AM in neutrals might be telling me enough to push that lynch though, lol.

but i didnt

oh hol' up



shorty, snow, lupin
cray, jaboo, lawp
AM, bark, chaos, trilt

mayo

Msp, samac

AM is a village lean
i don't really have a neutral right now, MsP and samac are the closest to neutral I have

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Shorty says I won

huh?

 

[holdthemayo]

Wait what? Did you mean to post this in the Among Us thread?

I'm nobody! Nobody, nobody!

 

[supershorty]

huh?

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We're playing cards against humanity online and mayo is pretty hydrated, I don't think that post was supposed to end up here lol
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[Lawpy]

I'm nobody! Nobody, nobody!

But you're mayos

 

[holdthemayo]

@supershorty post something

 

[Animal Midwife]

see you all in an hour chokers

 

[Animal Midwife]

im back

 

[sunshinefl]

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It’s 3 AM!! 🎉
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[Lawpy]

Noooooo i lost an hour of sleep!

 

[Lawpy]

And we're back

To

Bed

 

[holdthemayo]

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We're playing cards against humanity online and mayo is pretty hydrated, I don't think that post was supposed to end up here lol
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*****
It's match week. I'm just trying to survive
*****

 

[Crayola227]

Okay, I looked at MsP's posts too. There are some interactions with Zenge that I had initially written off as w/v, but that was before we knew that this pack was apparently perfectly happy to start throwing mud at each other early. These interactions still could be w/v, but they could just as easily be staged w/w. I'd buy these being w/w over Zenge's interactions with jaboo, for example. MsP had correct wolf reads on Cyndia and alley, but her VCA overall is a bit of a mystery without knowing what please is. MsP's read on Zenge suddenly flipped from D1 to D2, seemingly just based on what April was saying.

I feel like there could be a wolf between Cray and MsP, but between Cray's heavy push to yeet a neutral instead of wolf hunt and MsP's interactions with Zenge and evolution of her POI/voting history, I'm not sure which one is more likely.

Spoiler

Zenge/MsP interactions






Couple noteworthy things in this single post:

This was in response to Zenge. I read it as villagey at the time. Now knowing the amount of bussing and deepwolfing that's happened in this game, I'm not sure I can write it off that easily.

This JUST happened in the last game that MsP played (last game as far as I know. She didn't play GGoats and this happened in Basics).








Here's MsP's first reads list:

The Zenge read is interesting.



Now it's Day 2 and MsP's changed her tune on Zenge.

Highlighted this because it's not really what April said - none of us had seen wolf!Zenge before this game, April had just raised the possibility because his play/tone seemed different from previous games.

First POI post:


Next POE:

Then shortly after, said she was moving please to neutral:


Here's the next POI:



Not sure why Cyndia and alley both disappeared from the POI. There's no explanation prior to this post as to why she'd remove them.






Tiny detail, but pawprints was only in 1 of her POI posts. She was mentioned earlier in a bigger reads post, but never seemed to make it into the POI even though MsP seemed a little sus of her.


These 2 sentences don't make a lot of sense together.

I don't like MsP's inconsistencies.

 

[Crayola227]

Can you explain a single reason why Dina would omit information from me when I've also been a top village read of hers?

I don't know AM, not everyone plays like you or thinks like you.

 

[Crayola227]

Hey those of you who got the camera notification:

Dina mentioned this N1 result and the assumption was that it was Vissy, who was the village tracker.
Did any of you have wording similar to this? Or were yours all the camera shutter that samac mentioned?

Also including this post that I found where Dina had listed most of her reads. It's from D3 though. I'm looking for a more recent one.

I would infer from her quote that at minimum Neutral: prints, lupin, Trilt, MsP, mkg, please, mayo, LIS were not seered, or seered 3P by Dina.

 

[Crayola227]

No, now you're being ridiculous again Lawpy. Stop trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

I don't think he's being ridiculous. Why is this ridiculous?

 

[Crayola227]

Or he interpreted his night flavor incorrectly. He literally thought LIS did something to him. It was you guys who decided it was Dina for no reason.

On a second pass, since you missed where I asked Chaos about that quote, and he explained that they weren't related, and it's *very* clear you interpretated something *wrong*.

That's right, AM misunderstood something. Please consider what else you might have misunderstood from Dina.

 

[Crayola227]

i mean i guess, but i intentionally put it in asterisks so that people knew it had nothing to do w my actual view of the game

I wasn't kidding when I said it could be your subconscious.

 

[Crayola227]

I theorized based on the write-up that they're a JOAT and I still like the idea, but no real knowledge.


Why would you think that they would kill a neutral character that we are likely to lynch and that doesn't contribute to their win condition?








Why in the world would I lie about this? I actually literally brought up that it looked like she got her results in the writeup:


...and I wasn't notified. The entirety of this conversation is throwing sketch for a situation that makes no sense and could easily be explained by Dina just changing her damn mind, but instead we're making up something about both Chaos and I lying just... cause?


I also did not change my vote to Zenge. It was well into being a runaway lynch in like, three minutes and I didn't really see a good reason to add to a 10+ person lynch lead (beyond to potentially make my VCA look better. 😉)

Because I'm not sure we are likely to lynch him, so far he hasn't been great for the wolf cause, and if I was a wolf I would kill the 3P first chance I had, that's why.

Trilt do you think Chaos or AM is lying? Do you think Dina did?

 

[Crayola227]

I asked her this earlier and didn't get an answer.

I was busy earlier when you said something, I was reading and liking but I missed some things.

 

[Crayola227]

Outside of lying, it's also possible that Dina gave no notification from dying. Meaning you actually go no notification.

Then can you account for Chaos'?

 

[Crayola227]

Why does it matter who she seered before dying anyway

To see if someone is lying.

 

[Crayola227]

No, we've been discussing everything together. Bound by blood. Til death do us part.

I just did in the quote you posted.

Either you lied or Dina didn't give the you a notification because she died.

But then how did Chaos get the notif?

 

[Crayola227]

jaboo put her contingency vote on Zenge before he got seered though. It was not long after yeet closed on D1.

Maybe she lucked out, meaning she put what she thought would be a safe vote on a packmate she thought would go nowhere, and then he got seered.

 

[Crayola227]

I... i don't know how to respond to this

I do, AM is being straight up ridiculous. She needs to be a little less rigid in her thinking.

 

[Crayola227]

I think the more i'm thinking i think it's better that i look into few others and see what i think

This says basically nothing.

 

[Crayola227]

Did pleasy's posts worsen or improve your read on her?

One day you're going to have to read players for yourself. One day you'll look to Midwife and she'll be wolf. Time to start flexing those muscles now.

 

[Crayola227]

wait you mean 10pm? So like legit only the final vote matters and not the fact that she tried to save me from a wolf-heavy misyeet or pushed alley >95% of the day?

Was this after the rez?

 

[Crayola227]

I did some quick ISOing and reading and I think this is my current sitiation revised from this morning:

Most Sketch
Pleasey
MsP
Cray
Lupes
Lawps
LIS
Chaos,
Katamac
Shorty
Jboo
Barks
AM
Least Sketch

On quick read through I couldn't find any small things on either MsP (still lacking a lot of content) or Pleasey to lean them more village, so the distinction is mostly ~vibes~.

##lynch pleasey##

I don't understand why you have Kata so village.

 

[Crayola227]

Shorty says I won

Won what?

 

[Chaostrodon]

im back

hi back

 

[Trilt]

Because I'm not sure we are likely to lynch him, so far he hasn't been great for the wolf cause, and if I was a wolf I would kill the 3P first chance I had, that's why.

Trilt do you think Chaos or AM is lying? Do you think Dina did?

I think Dina probably changed her mind, as it's the simplest explanation lol.

I don't understand why you have Kata so village.

Her amount of money fits with some game theory I have, and I don't see wolves having bought but then not used a first aid kit for multiple cycles when they were getting slammed for being silenced.

 

[Chaostrodon]

I think Dina probably changed her mind, as it's the simplest explanation lol.


Her amount of money fits with some game theory I have, and I don't see wolves having bought but then not used a first aid kit for multiple cycles when they were getting slammed for being silenced.

Seems like you are assuming wolves can exchange items

 

[Trilt]

Seems like you are assuming wolves can exchange items

All purchases are final, no returns or exchanges. Items are distributed on a first come, first served basis. Items may be transferred between players or held for an indefinite period of time. No more than one of a particular item may be purchased by the same player in a single night.

Yes?

 

[Animal Midwife]

On a second pass, since you missed where I asked Chaos about that quote, and he explained that they weren't related, and it's *very* clear you interpretated something *wrong*.

That's right, AM misunderstood something. Please consider what else you might have misunderstood from Dina.

Every example you made of me potentially being wrong this game mechanically has actually been you being wrong yourself (and confused how I could be this level of secure in myself so early) so this means little to me.

So chew on that for some time unless you like repeating history.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Was this after the rez?

Yeah.

Yes?

This quote says the opposite though?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Oh wait, I see it under transferring rather than exchanging.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I wonder if there's a delay for any transferring.

 

[supershorty]

Won what?

See below.

Shorty says I won

Wait what? Did you mean to post this in the Among Us thread?

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We're playing cards against humanity online and mayo is pretty hydrated, I don't think that post was supposed to end up here lol
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[Trilt]

I wonder if there's a delay for any transferring.

And I definitely considered this - if kata bought it, but then couldn't send it to a silenced packmate in time (aka it'd have to go overnight when they were unsilenced anyway) that makes that part of this theory die slightly.

But even without that particular component the purchases and use of items is reasonable for village!katamac.

 

[supershorty]

Her amount of money fits with some game theory I have, and I don't see wolves having bought but then not used a first aid kit for multiple cycles when they were getting slammed for being silenced.

Can you expand on this?