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  1. DrPod

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    Hi, I am applying for one of the open POD residency positions at Fort Bragg. I understand that it will incur an 84-month ADO (including the 36-month residency). Can you please give some general sense of potential deployment locations and deployment periods after residency completion? I have small kids so I have some constraints in terms of deployments locations, specially overseas. Thanks.
     
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  3. sb247

    sb247 wait...you mean I got in? 5+ Year Member

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    the thing is, no you don't.

    Once you sign, you go wherever you are told. That's an important concept to remember before you do paperwork
     
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  4. Armyhealth

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    SB247 is right, there is no constraints or special concerns given because you have children. This is coming from a Healthcare recruiter by the way. If you or your unit are selected for a non-dependent tour or deployment you will be expected to serve in that assignment. As of right now Podiatry is not a huge need overseas but who knows by the time you finish your residency.
     
  5. InformMe123

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    question about the ADT pay (the 45 day obligation each year i believe), if you defer BOLC until after graduation do you still get the ADT pay each year before graduating?
     
  6. Armyhealth

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    Yes, ADT can mean many things. You can do your rotations, or clinical time. Whatever you decide to do as long as your medical school and the Army approves what you are doing you will be paid ADT.
     
  7. Sloan321

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    I'm currently a civilian in a Physician Assistant program and am interested in joining when I graduate. Would I be able to go straight into an ER specialty or would it just be based off of the Army's need (i.e. I might get stuck in Family Practice or a different specialty that I'm not necessarily interested in)? And is it a 3 or 4 year commitment?
    Thanks!!!
     
  8. Armyhealth

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    It is based on the Army's need, the program manager will give you 2-3 spots to choose from but where you work specifically will be up to the AMEDD of where you are going. For instance I had a PA join last year who had experience in ER she chose Fort Drum because she is from upstate New York, however there is no emergency room at Fort Drum so she is working as a brigade PA. Just depends on where you want to go and what is available when you get there. If you want a chance at ER I would choose one of the bases with a large ER department. It is a 3 year commitment.
     
  9. Sloan321

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    Thank you. VERY helpful. Is it possible to request somewhere in the middle east as one of the "2-3 spots" that you choose? Or can you only request stateside locations? Thanks.
     
  10. EODguy

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    is there a minimum mcat for hpsp these days?
     
  11. srhcustom

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    Yes... 500 with 124 in each section
     
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  12. Armyhealth

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    You can't pick a spot in the middle east as a station but when you get to your unit you can request to be deployed from that place. If a deployment is what you want pick Fort Bragg, Fort Campbell, Fort Drum something that has units that deploy a lot.
     
  13. Armyhealth

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    SRC Custom is correct MCAT is 500 with 124 in each category and GPA of 3.2.

    The automatic acceptance criteria for the scholarship is MCAT of 507 or higher and GPA of 3.6 or higher.
     
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  14. Ashe226

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    I have a couple questions about the OPAT.
    I am a HPSP Vet corps recipient and will be taking my OPAT in two weeks. I read up on the requirements for OPAT, however, I have a few questions.
    1. Does OPAT determine my MOS even though I'll be in the vet corps?
    2. What if I fail the OPAT?
    3. How should I train for it? I weight 110 lbs, height: 5'3, 24 yr female. Didn't really have time to for physical activity since schools been crazy.
     
  15. Armyhealth

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    1.- No the OPAT does not determine your AOC (medical officers use the term AOC instead of MOS)
    2.- According to the regulation you cannot be enrolled into the program until you pass your OPAT, you only have to get the minimum score to pass.
    3.- I would practice some sprints but other then that the rest is very easy. The dead lift minimum and seated power throw are very simple. The only part that some find challenging is the shuttle run but I have never seen someone not at least get the minimum to pass.
     
  16. sportsdoc1984

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    I had a couple of questions regarding the Army Reserves. I am in my second year of practice. I completed a pediatric residency and then a sports medicine fellowship. Currently I am doing 100% sports medicine that is predominantly adult patients with musculoskeletal complaints. I do see a fair share of adolescent as I am the team physician at several high schools and a D3 college.

    Am I restricted to doing pediatrics in the Army Reserves?
    If there are no pediatric openings could I be a GMO?
    If accepted how long is BOLC and how long do I have to complete it?
    I did MEPs 2013 during residency for the Air Force-AD then decided on fellowship instead. Would I have to repeat MEPs?

    Thank you for your time.
     
  17. Armyhealth

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    We actually don't have pediatric slots in the Army Reserves. However you can come in as a Family Medicine Doctor or a GMO (Field Surgeon) most come in as the Family Medicine Physician because there are better incentives. You must complete BOLC within three years of commission. BOLC for Reserves is broken down into two parts, part one is an online course first in which you have 52 weeks to complete. The second part is a 3 weeks and 4 day course in San Antonio. You would have to repeat your physical either at MEPS or a medical treatment facility because the physical is only good for two years.

    Send me a private message and I would be happy to get you started, I put in two Pediatrician's last year as Family Medicine Doctors so I know exactly how to do the processing of the packet.
     
  18. Pork_Chop

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    Thank you for doing this Armyhealth. I am going to be an undergrad freshman this fall interested in USUHS/HPSP once I complete my undergrad. What is the time frame I should start looking at talking with a healthcare recruiter to get the ball rolling for that?
     
  19. Armyhealth

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    Depends if you plan on taking a GAP year or not. If you end up taking a GAP year then talk to a recruiter in your senior year. If you plan on applying your senior year then talk to a recruiter in your junior year. However, feel free to contact the recruiter in your area as soon as you want to start asking questions.
     
  20. BlueSable

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    Is a waiver available for deafness in one ear when applying for the physician HPSP program? Also, can you discuss briefly age waivers? In my case, I would be starting medical school at age 39. Thank you.
     
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  21. Armyhealth

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    For age you have to start your active duty time by 42, however because you would be so close there is a good chance you could get the age waiver. The deafness in one ear most likely will be disqualifying. If you are talking complete hearing loss it will almost for sure be a disqualifying. Never know, I am not the doctor so I would get your physical done first and see if they will let you in.
     
  22. Gauss44

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    Can a nocturne (nocturnal person) join the army?

    I'm serious I have a very fit (can run 12+ miles non-stop), smart friend (research guru with several poster presentations), who has to limit his exposure to light. Everyone thinks he's in the army who doesn't know him because he's so fit and would fit right in otherwise.
     
  23. sb247

    sb247 wait...you mean I got in? 5+ Year Member

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    No
     
  24. sb247

    sb247 wait...you mean I got in? 5+ Year Member

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    I think you may be right about gmo, but a pediatrician is not a FM doc
     
  25. Armyhealth

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    Look up PROFIS regulation, a pediatrician can fill a 61H slot in the Reserves. I put in two like that last year.
     
  26. Armyhealth

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    I would have to look at the exact condition but very unlikely.
     
  27. sb247

    sb247 wait...you mean I got in? 5+ Year Member

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    I think we're getting into semantics here. The army can commission whoever they want and call them whatever they want. I'm not debating the posters ability to commission.

    But that still doesn't make a pediatrician an FM doc.
     
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  28. purple98

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    Hello,
    I am currently a university student majoring in nutrition and I am going onto my sophomore year this upcoming fall. I am interested in becoming an army dietitian, however I wanted to know what routes I can take or are available, in order for me to pursue that career in the army. I would also like to know what is recommended that I start doing at this moment in order to reach that goal and help prepare myself. One thing I would like to mention as well is that recently I joined the army ROTC program at my university as I am aware that the program offers a commission as a second lieutenant in the army which is what a dietitian is considered.
     
  29. Helpful Troll

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    @Armyhealth Thoughts?
    @purple98 - Read up on the Dietitian 65c and Dietetic Student 65c on the goarmy website. Dietetic Student

    Looks like you would have to apply for an ROTC 2 year Ed Delay for the Dietetic Student commission. The criteria is listed in the link above including 3.0+ GPA, GRE 297+, and GRE Writing 3.5+. You would need your GRE scores when applying for the Ed Delay late your Jr year as part of the accessions process. This would add to your ROTC service obligation.

    For the Dietitian AOC you have to have completed a dietetic internship and registered as a Dietitian by the Commission on Dietetic Registration. Dietitian Jobs (65C)

    In either case contact a local healthcare recruiter to confirm application process, timeline, and need for dietitians. Try messaging @Armyhealth, he may be able to put you in contact with a competent local healthcare recruiter.

    Edit: If you are not getting significant financial assistance from ROTC or already obligated you should consider dropping ROTC. If you stay in ROTC be prepared to complete your service obligation as a line/staff officer rather than dietitian.
     
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  30. purple98

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    Thank you! Out of all the people I've talked to so far, your reply seems to be the most helpful one. Since for the dietitian AOC like you mentioned you need to have completed a dietetic internship as well as have become a registered dietitian, do you think it would make my situation easier if I applied and got accepted to the CPD program my university has? I would apply to it my junior year and basically what the CPD (coordinated) program is its a degree option that combines the academic and supervised practice experience to qualify graduates to become a registered dietitian. In other words, under this program I would complete the internship my senior year of university and hopefully once I'm done and I graduate I can take the exam to become a registered dietitian. If I were to go this route and things went as planned, then wouldn't I be looking into a possible direct commission into the army as a fully qualified registered dietitian?

    If that is the case, then I'm now thinking of this being my best option and I'll just drop ROTC like you mentioned as I am not obligated to be in it as of now and I don't necessarily prefer to complete my service obligation as a line/staff officer rather than a dietitian.
     
  31. Armyhealth

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    Hey, we have our own program that you can direct apply for. GPN at Baylor, Military-Baylor Masters Program in Nutrition | Baylor University
    You actually finish your Master's in Nutrition and do your internship at the same time in a two year program and sit for the examination at the end of the program. After you are done you work in the Army as a full Dietician 65C. Look up the link and let me know if you have any other questions. I actually had someone get into this program about a year ago.
     
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  32. Helpful Troll

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    So the Baylor program is the Dietetic Student AOC listed. Have you worked with any ROTC cadets transitioning to that program or directly to the 65C Dietitian AOC?
     
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  33. Armyhealth

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    I have not had a ROTC student apply for this program. The only one I had was non-prior service and had no ties to ROTC. If you wanted to apply as a ROTC student you would have to apply for an ed delay and apply for the program at the same time and get accepted into an ed delay and the GPN program.
     
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  34. redking

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    What are the age limits? I am 35 now, and wont graduate until I am 38 to 39
     
  35. Armyhealth

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    You have to commission by the age of 42, so if you are doing a HPSP program you would still be good to apply.
     
  36. The.ToothFairy94

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    Hi, I've been trying to PM you but for some reason it won't send. Can you please PM me so I can respond there? Thank you

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  37. Armyhealth

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    I sent you a PM, hopefully you can see me haha.
     
  38. The.ToothFairy94

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    It worked, thank you so much !

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  39. julius0121

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    If you receive a four year HPSP scholarship, but chose to defer a year before beginning medical school, will you lose that scholarship and have to reapply or will it just roll over to next year when you begin?


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  40. Armyhealth

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    You can't officially be awarded the scholarship until you have a letter of acceptance in hand. Now if you are awarded the scholarship because you had a LOA and then choose to later defer it then you do have to reapply all over again.
     
  41. julius0121

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    Is this true for all military branches or just the army?


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  42. Armyhealth

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    Sorry, I am not sure that is for the Army but that is the only branch I cover. Usually the policies are the same or pretty close however.
     

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