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I'm still reading through some things but from what I've read so far, I'm getting some village vibes from AM, Pippy, Dina and barky.

Strog, MJ and pickles are giving me weird, unpleasant and sketchy feels. Allie and WZ could be sketch as well and the posts explaining why they feel sketchy make sense to me. Sporty and Cubed Pawsy are null atm.
 
Well cheezit has only ever lynched me when I'm a villager, so not sure where you got the idea that he's good at reading me.
mm, I'm not sure that is true, but I'll take your word for it 😉

First time for everything, though 🙂

And I thought it was interesting that his reasoning directly aligned with mine. We seemed to be on a similar wavelength this game, and I'm sorry but I'm not going to ignore it.

Genny didn't seem overly interested in lynching me. She mentioned me a couple times, sure. Don't think wanting to look into me is an indication that she had a lock wolf read on me.
Ok?

Just because someone doesn't have a "locked read" on you does not mean you're a villager or that their feels are invalid 😉

You are the type of person that gets caught by unsubstantiated feels. At least 3+ people have had feels. I'm sticking with it until I have reason not to.
 
mm, I'm not sure that is true, but I'll take your word for it 😉

First time for everything, though 🙂

And I thought it was interesting that his reasoning directly aligned with mine. We seemed to be on a similar wavelength this game, and I'm sorry but I'm not going to ignore it.


Ok?

Just because someone doesn't have a "locked read" on you does not mean you're a villager or that their feels are invalid 😉

You are the type of person that gets caught by unsubstantiated feels. At least 3+ people have had feels. I'm sticking with it until I have reason not to.
Nah I'm the type of person that gets caught by seering 😉
I'm just trying to figure out what your actual argument is because you have yet to post the case you say you've been building. So just responding to what you presented as evidence - two dead villagers who historically read me well also having wolfy feels of me. Which sounds good, except isn't actually substantiated.

I'm glad you were able to get on the same wavelength with cheezit "this game" despite him literally being alive for one day two days though.
 
Unofficial D5 Lynch Tally
WZ (3)
- Dina, pickles, Pippy
Lawpy (1) - cubs
Sporty () -
allie (1) - AM
Strog (1) - WZ

6/12
lynch close in ~21.5 hours
 
That's just strog being strog

Have you played with him before?

Yes, and I've read the lounge games he's been in. And I know him from the lounge

Curious he didn't remember your playstyle then. And, to clarify, you're saying it's NAI, yes?

I am way less memorable to the loungers than they are to me, you've got to remember that I came to SDN when they were all well established so I kind of look up to them all while I'm just some random noob to them. I also don't know what NAI means

It's weird MJ says this regarding Strog but somehow decides to coordinate his vote with Strog's vote from D2 onwards? He also said he's familiar with Strog's playstyle.

Day 1 Lynch Tally
Sporty () -
Stagg (5) - SAR, bryndi, genny, dubz, zigzag
Strog (1) - shelter
zigzag (2) - Barks, dinamite
SAR (4) - dolphin, sporty, strog, stagg
AM (2) - MJ, allieh
Dina () -
dolphin (1) - Paws
Mel () -
devyn () -
snowy (2) - mel, am
paws (1) - snowy
shelter (1) - pickles
allieh () -

19/20
Missing: devyn

Day 2 Lynch Tally
Snowy (5)
- Paws, Dina, barkley, mel, sar
SAR
(1) - bryndy
shelter (2) - Sporty, am
Strog (1) - pickles
pickles (4) - Strog, mj, snowy, allieh
allie (2) - genny, dubz
Dina () -
genny () -

15/17
Missing: shelter, devyn

Day 3 Lynch Tally
bryndy (3) - sar, dubz, dina
pippy () -
sar (4) - shelter, strog, mj, pickles
shelter (3) - am, sporty, barkley
dina () -
allie (1) - genny
Barks (1) - allie
strog (1) - cubs
dubz (2) - pips, bryndi

15/15

Day 4 Lynch Tally
shelter (7)
- am, barkley, strog, sportyspice, MJ, allie, bryndi
pickles () -
dubz () -
bryndi (7) - dubz, pip, genny, Dina, cubs, shelter, pickles

14/14
 
Nah I'm the type of person that gets caught by seering 😉
I'm just trying to figure out what your actual argument is because you have yet to post the case you say you've been building. So just responding to what you presented as evidence - two dead villagers who historically read me well also having wolfy feels of me. Which sounds good, except isn't actually substantiated.

I'm glad you were able to get on the same wavelength with cheezit "this game" despite him literally being alive for one day two days though.
Yup, I will substantiate tomorrow after my final that I am still studying for.

Keep getting snarky in the meantime, that totally helps
 
I mean, he could have gotten overruled, and I believe he is also capable of exercising strategic restraint. He's not devoid of all rational thought.

This is a weirdly absolutist statement, and I'm not entirely sure why you're defending each other like this and voting in tandem.

But he's a psychiatrist tho. j/k


He's sheeped me twice. I think once when I voted pickles, he followed. And when I voted SAR, he followed (and made it a 3-way tie). I've never followed him in voting. FWIW, I'm not defending MJ at all, just taking what you say about him holding a grudge against you to heart. How am I absolutist?

The vote sequence agrees with Strog's point here, which means it makes MJ looks worse for coordinating his vote like that. It was also mentioned that MJ was familiar with Strog's playstyle from reading the past games but apparently Strog wasn't familiar with MJ's playstyle.
 
I've been in this weird place with Strog
Was I sober enough to remember it?

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in my mind for this whole game where he's acting so incredibly wolfy that it almost can't be real, and it's literally the only thing that's been stopping me from voting there

This is an example -- it's like he's manufacturing sketch, but it is so aggressive that I feel like the other wolves would have told him to cut it out by now
OK, but in all seriousness, can you provide some specific examples? I'm not denying that I come across sketchy, but if you look at the like 7-10 total WW games I've played on SDN, I must put out sketchy vibes a lot since people bring it up a lot.

For my own information, what is it? Is it too much fluff? Too much humor? Too goofy/flirty? Too much tinfoil? Too much defending people (e.g. MJ, in your mind)?
 
Yup, I will substantiate tomorrow after my final that I am still studying for.

Keep getting snarky in the meantime, that totally helps
Good luck. Should probably go focus on studying and stop dropping things on thread that you don't have time to back up :shrug:

And I plan to...the day I stop being snarky is the day I die.
 
It's weird MJ says this regarding Strog but somehow decides to coordinate his vote with Strog's vote from D2 onwards? He also said he's familiar with Strog's playstyle.

The vote sequence agrees with Strog's point here, which means it makes MJ looks worse for coordinating his vote like that. It was also mentioned that MJ was familiar with Strog's playstyle from reading the past games but apparently Strog wasn't familiar with MJ's playstyle.

THANK YOU for both of these posts. MJ's following me around, not vice versa. And I like the guy, but it's also true that I have no clue about his WW style whereas he apparently has read the games I've been in. Including 2 flawless victories #humblebrag

I'm warming up to you, slightly. 😎

I wanna poke Sporty today and learn more about her.
 
There were four wolves to begin with, notice the extra kill was done N1, so we lost 3 villagers D1, N1. The wolf we caught that WZ didn’t actually push too hard to have lynched was a vanilla wolf (easy sacrifice for her to gain village cred or if people chose to lynch me instead, then she still appears village because she made hints to not vote me- either way with how the results would have turned out, she doesn’t look sketchy). Plus, she made sure to say something about me before SAR actually flipped village and the results were out (a little weird). Also, back to snowy, she said she didn’t want two wolves on the lynch board (talking about me and Snowy- a subtle “joke”, but it added shade my way). Now back to the flip with SAR she would have either been a mason with SAR (we know this isn’t true- since SAR flipped vanilla) a seer, or a tracker- but then I was questioning what AM (because of the WZ/AM banter) is with her reads? Not sure, but I want to believe she is village. Also, notice that WZ made the first move after last night’s results were out and no one was killed by saying something along the lines of, nice one BJ; and lynched her (don’t know if she stayed on this lynch at the end, but I wasn’t necessarily looking at where WZ voted, but more on how Bryndi would flip). Also, I actually think someone was protected last night and those weren’t the results that WZ was expecting. She saw the results and said something about BJ immediately to make her look shady, granted, so did I (I wasn’t sure about BJ until she flipped), but the more I see it, the more WZ either has a PR or she is a wolf. Now which one is it?


Tin foiling is growing…


The counterwagon was me on D1, if they knew ahead of time that Snowy would potentially be a vanilla wolf sacrifice (we didn’t catch/the wolves saved the wolf with the one-shot kill so that they could use in N1, Snowy was a vanilla wolf from the get-go). Along with this, I was the other option and WZ “saved me and caught a wolf”. Remember that the wolves were very intentional by using the extra night kill on the first night (so all of the wolves are now vanilla- easy to sacrifice and have no abilities, unless you count the head wolf that calls the shots, but this isn’t an ability, it is a role). There was a reason that I did not self-prez, and it wasn’t just to not be sketchy (although some wolves do self-prez too), but this is all I can tell you. Now all of the wolves can slowly be used for the head/lead wolf (this definition of about one wolf calling the shots was explained when people were asking about what the roles meant at the beginning of the game- I can find these quotes if you all really want) to sacrifice (since they all lost abilities) to gain village cred. Bryndi flipped village (I needed to know what she was to support my theory. I thought that Bryndi would flip wolf because WZ made me feel stupid for lynching SAR, a villager, but if you look at it today, they would have both flipped village regardless, so why was she mad about me moving off of Bryndi)? Either way, I would be looked into right after she made the comment along the lines of are you f****** kidding me pickles. People started to contingency lynch me after I broke the tie. I want to believe that AM is village from some of my feels, and that is why she was upset that I moved the vote (this may not be true though, it is just by feels). Regarding AM, I want to believe she is village, but she said that everyone on Snowy is a hard clear in her mind and I don’t exactly believe this mentality (but it could be the way she plays). But, for now I want to think that the WZ is playing very well by covering her tracks with comments before and after people flip and before the results are actually out (she could have a PR, but it can’t justify every comment that she has made before the lynches have closed and the results weren’t out almost every single time). Again, I am wavering between AM and WZ, but I really have feels for WZ for the shade she threw on me and now Bryndi. The tin foiling is growing stronger, I know. Now with all of that word vomit, I could easily be being pocketed by Pippy or AM, not sure.

How bad is this tin foiling?
 
There were four wolves to begin with, notice the extra kill was done N1, so we lost 3 villagers D1, N1. The wolf we caught that WZ didn’t actually push too hard to have lynched was a vanilla wolf (easy sacrifice for her to gain village cred or if people chose to lynch me instead, then she still appears village because she made hints to not vote me- either way with how the results would have turned out, she doesn’t look sketchy). Plus, she made sure to say something about me before SAR actually flipped village and the results were out (a little weird). Also, back to snowy, she said she didn’t want two wolves on the lynch board (talking about me and Snowy- a subtle “joke”, but it added shade my way). Now back to the flip with SAR she would have either been a mason with SAR (we know this isn’t true- since SAR flipped vanilla) a seer, or a tracker- but then I was questioning what AM (because of the WZ/AM banter) is with her reads? Not sure, but I want to believe she is village. Also, notice that WZ made the first move after last night’s results were out and no one was killed by saying something along the lines of, nice one BJ; and lynched her (don’t know if she stayed on this lynch at the end, but I wasn’t necessarily looking at where WZ voted, but more on how Bryndi would flip). Also, I actually think someone was protected last night and those weren’t the results that WZ was expecting. She saw the results and said something about BJ immediately to make her look shady, granted, so did I (I wasn’t sure about BJ until she flipped), but the more I see it, the more WZ either has a PR or she is a wolf. Now which one is it?


Tin foiling is growing…


The counterwagon was me on D1, if they knew ahead of time that Snowy would potentially be a vanilla wolf sacrifice (we didn’t catch/the wolves saved the wolf with the one-shot kill so that they could use in N1, Snowy was a vanilla wolf from the get-go). Along with this, I was the other option and WZ “saved me and caught a wolf”. Remember that the wolves were very intentional by using the extra night kill on the first night (so all of the wolves are now vanilla- easy to sacrifice and have no abilities, unless you count the head wolf that calls the shots, but this isn’t an ability, it is a role). There was a reason that I did not self-prez, and it wasn’t just to not be sketchy (although some wolves do self-prez too), but this is all I can tell you. Now all of the wolves can slowly be used for the head/lead wolf (this definition of about one wolf calling the shots was explained when people were asking about what the roles meant at the beginning of the game- I can find these quotes if you all really want) to sacrifice (since they all lost abilities) to gain village cred. Bryndi flipped village (I needed to know what she was to support my theory. I thought that Bryndi would flip wolf because WZ made me feel stupid for lynching SAR, a villager, but if you look at it today, they would have both flipped village regardless, so why was she mad about me moving off of Bryndi)? Either way, I would be looked into right after she made the comment along the lines of are you f****** kidding me pickles. People started to contingency lynch me after I broke the tie. I want to believe that AM is village from some of my feels, and that is why she was upset that I moved the vote (this may not be true though, it is just by feels). Regarding AM, I want to believe she is village, but she said that everyone on Snowy is a hard clear in her mind and I don’t exactly believe this mentality (but it could be the way she plays). But, for now I want to think that the WZ is playing very well by covering her tracks with comments before and after people flip and before the results are actually out (she could have a PR, but it can’t justify every comment that she has made before the lynches have closed and the results weren’t out almost every single time). Again, I am wavering between AM and WZ, but I really have feels for WZ for the shade she threw on me and now Bryndi. The tin foiling is growing stronger, I know. Now with all of that word vomit, I could easily be being pocketed by Pippy or AM, not sure.

How bad is this tin foiling?

my eyes
 
Sorry for the word vomit and repetitiveness with things, and I also know it is slightly disorganized and I move back and forth between people and days (sorry), but I am just throwing my theory out there as it comes to me.
 
There were four wolves to begin with, notice the extra kill was done N1, so we lost 3 villagers D1, N1. The wolf we caught that WZ didn’t actually push too hard to have lynched was a vanilla wolf (easy sacrifice for her to gain village cred or if people chose to lynch me instead, then she still appears village because she made hints to not vote me- either way with how the results would have turned out, she doesn’t look sketchy). Plus, she made sure to say something about me before SAR actually flipped village and the results were out (a little weird). Also, back to snowy, she said she didn’t want two wolves on the lynch board (talking about me and Snowy- a subtle “joke”, but it added shade my way). Now back to the flip with SAR she would have either been a mason with SAR (we know this isn’t true- since SAR flipped vanilla) a seer, or a tracker- but then I was questioning what AM (because of the WZ/AM banter) is with her reads? Not sure, but I want to believe she is village. Also, notice that WZ made the first move after last night’s results were out and no one was killed by saying something along the lines of, nice one BJ; and lynched her (don’t know if she stayed on this lynch at the end, but I wasn’t necessarily looking at where WZ voted, but more on how Bryndi would flip). Also, I actually think someone was protected last night and those weren’t the results that WZ was expecting. She saw the results and said something about BJ immediately to make her look shady, granted, so did I (I wasn’t sure about BJ until she flipped), but the more I see it, the more WZ either has a PR or she is a wolf. Now which one is it?


Tin foiling is growing…


The counterwagon was me on D1, if they knew ahead of time that Snowy would potentially be a vanilla wolf sacrifice (we didn’t catch/the wolves saved the wolf with the one-shot kill so that they could use in N1, Snowy was a vanilla wolf from the get-go). Along with this, I was the other option and WZ “saved me and caught a wolf”. Remember that the wolves were very intentional by using the extra night kill on the first night (so all of the wolves are now vanilla- easy to sacrifice and have no abilities, unless you count the head wolf that calls the shots, but this isn’t an ability, it is a role). There was a reason that I did not self-prez, and it wasn’t just to not be sketchy (although some wolves do self-prez too), but this is all I can tell you. Now all of the wolves can slowly be used for the head/lead wolf (this definition of about one wolf calling the shots was explained when people were asking about what the roles meant at the beginning of the game- I can find these quotes if you all really want) to sacrifice (since they all lost abilities) to gain village cred. Bryndi flipped village (I needed to know what she was to support my theory. I thought that Bryndi would flip wolf because WZ made me feel stupid for lynching SAR, a villager, but if you look at it today, they would have both flipped village regardless, so why was she mad about me moving off of Bryndi)? Either way, I would be looked into right after she made the comment along the lines of are you f****** kidding me pickles. People started to contingency lynch me after I broke the tie. I want to believe that AM is village from some of my feels, and that is why she was upset that I moved the vote (this may not be true though, it is just by feels). Regarding AM, I want to believe she is village, but she said that everyone on Snowy is a hard clear in her mind and I don’t exactly believe this mentality (but it could be the way she plays). But, for now I want to think that the WZ is playing very well by covering her tracks with comments before and after people flip and before the results are actually out (she could have a PR, but it can’t justify every comment that she has made before the lynches have closed and the results weren’t out almost every single time). Again, I am wavering between AM and WZ, but I really have feels for WZ for the shade she threw on me and now Bryndi. The tin foiling is growing stronger, I know. Now with all of that word vomit, I could easily be being pocketed by Pippy or AM, not sure.

How bad is this tin foiling?

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There were four wolves to begin with, notice the extra kill was done N1, so we lost 3 villagers D1, N1. The wolf we caught that WZ didn’t actually push too hard to have lynched was a vanilla wolf (easy sacrifice for her to gain village cred or if people chose to lynch me instead, then she still appears village because she made hints to not vote me- either way with how the results would have turned out, she doesn’t look sketchy). Plus, she made sure to say something about me before SAR actually flipped village and the results were out (a little weird). Also, back to snowy, she said she didn’t want two wolves on the lynch board (talking about me and Snowy- a subtle “joke”, but it added shade my way). Now back to the flip with SAR she would have either been a mason with SAR (we know this isn’t true- since SAR flipped vanilla) a seer, or a tracker- but then I was questioning what AM (because of the WZ/AM banter) is with her reads? Not sure, but I want to believe she is village. Also, notice that WZ made the first move after last night’s results were out and no one was killed by saying something along the lines of, nice one BJ; and lynched her (don’t know if she stayed on this lynch at the end, but I wasn’t necessarily looking at where WZ voted, but more on how Bryndi would flip). Also, I actually think someone was protected last night and those weren’t the results that WZ was expecting. She saw the results and said something about BJ immediately to make her look shady, granted, so did I (I wasn’t sure about BJ until she flipped), but the more I see it, the more WZ either has a PR or she is a wolf. Now which one is it?


Tin foiling is growing…


The counterwagon was me on D1, if they knew ahead of time that Snowy would potentially be a vanilla wolf sacrifice (we didn’t catch/the wolves saved the wolf with the one-shot kill so that they could use in N1, Snowy was a vanilla wolf from the get-go). Along with this, I was the other option and WZ “saved me and caught a wolf”. Remember that the wolves were very intentional by using the extra night kill on the first night (so all of the wolves are now vanilla- easy to sacrifice and have no abilities, unless you count the head wolf that calls the shots, but this isn’t an ability, it is a role). There was a reason that I did not self-prez, and it wasn’t just to not be sketchy (although some wolves do self-prez too), but this is all I can tell you. Now all of the wolves can slowly be used for the head/lead wolf (this definition of about one wolf calling the shots was explained when people were asking about what the roles meant at the beginning of the game- I can find these quotes if you all really want) to sacrifice (since they all lost abilities) to gain village cred. Bryndi flipped village (I needed to know what she was to support my theory. I thought that Bryndi would flip wolf because WZ made me feel stupid for lynching SAR, a villager, but if you look at it today, they would have both flipped village regardless, so why was she mad about me moving off of Bryndi)? Either way, I would be looked into right after she made the comment along the lines of are you f****** kidding me pickles. People started to contingency lynch me after I broke the tie. I want to believe that AM is village from some of my feels, and that is why she was upset that I moved the vote (this may not be true though, it is just by feels). Regarding AM, I want to believe she is village, but she said that everyone on Snowy is a hard clear in her mind and I don’t exactly believe this mentality (but it could be the way she plays). But, for now I want to think that the WZ is playing very well by covering her tracks with comments before and after people flip and before the results are actually out (she could have a PR, but it can’t justify every comment that she has made before the lynches have closed and the results weren’t out almost every single time). Again, I am wavering between AM and WZ, but I really have feels for WZ for the shade she threw on me and now Bryndi. The tin foiling is growing stronger, I know. Now with all of that word vomit, I could easily be being pocketed by Pippy or AM, not sure.

How bad is this tin foiling?
Oy. You could have broken this up a little more. How am I supposed to respond to it like this? 😛

There are at least 2 or 3 things in there where you misquoted me or misread something though, so 2/10 on the tinfoil for not doing your research
 
There is no seer, so disregard that portion of the PRs in my post

Edit: I am not sure what the wolf blocker is, I have to go back and find where someone explained it, so this wolf is still important, my bad.
 
Remember that the wolves were very intentional by using the extra night kill on the first night (so all of the wolves are now vanilla- easy to sacrifice and have no abilities, unless you count the head wolf that calls the shots, but this isn’t an ability, it is a role).
I'm still reading through your entire post, but I don't think it's true that the remaining 3 wolves are vanilla. There's still a wolf blocker, which I think is the wolf equivalent of Village Protector.

Edit: We posted at the same time.
 
The wolf we caught that WZ didn’t actually push too hard to have lynched was a vanilla wolf (easy sacrifice for her to gain village cred or if people chose to lynch me instead, then she still appears village because she made hints to not vote me- either way with how the results would have turned out, she doesn’t look sketchy).
If I wanted village cred for the snowy lynch I would have voted for her

Plus, she made sure to say something about me before SAR actually flipped village and the results were out (a little weird).
I said it because I was pissed off

Also, back to snowy, she said she didn’t want two wolves on the lynch board (talking about me and Snowy- a subtle “joke”, but it added shade my way).
No idea what you were talking about here. Cheezit said he thought you and snowy might have both been wolves up for lynch. I disagreed, which obviously meant I thought you were village.

Now back to the flip with SAR she would have either been a mason with SAR (we know this isn’t true- since SAR flipped vanilla) a seer, or a tracker- but then I was questioning what AM (because of the WZ/AM banter) is with her reads?
Or I could have just had a strong enough village read on her and a strong enough wolf read on bj (obvs wrong in hindsight) that I was pissed that you flipped the vote to her in the last two minutes for terrible reasons.

Everything is not black and white. We have no seer here. No one is clear outside of the masons. So my strong village reads are the closest things I have to clear players and I will behave accordingly.

Also, notice that WZ made the first move after last night’s results were out and no one was killed by saying something along the lines of, nice one BJ; and lynched her (don’t know if she stayed on this lynch at the end, but I wasn’t necessarily looking at where WZ voted, but more on how Bryndi would flip).
Again, misquoting.
I said nice one or whatever and then placed my vote. I didn't say anything directed at bj at that time.

Also, I actually think someone was protected last night and those weren’t the results that WZ was expecting. She saw the results and said something about BJ immediately to make her look shady, granted, so did I (I wasn’t sure about BJ until she flipped), but the more I see it, the more WZ either has a PR or she is a wolf. Now which one is it?
Seeing as protection or the wolves forgetting to submit a kill are the only ways in this game that a no kill could happen, yeah, it's pretty likely someone was protected. You know wolves get their results before the writeups are posted though, so how exactly would I have been surprised by the on thread results if I were a wolf?
 
Good luck. Should probably go focus on studying and stop dropping things on thread that you don't have time to back up :shrug:
Gonna put my foot down on this right now, though.

This is not particularly nice, and I don't appreciate it. You can be mad that people are starting to put pressure on you, but it doesn't make it ok to toss out personal attacks. It's childish, unnecessary behavior and it reflects poorly on you outside of the game, in my opinion.
 
If I wanted village cred for the snowy lynch I would have voted for her


I said it because I was pissed off


No idea what you were talking about here. Cheezit said he thought you and snowy might have both been wolves up for lynch. I disagreed, which obviously meant I thought you were village.


Or I could have just had a strong enough village read on her and a strong enough wolf read on bj (obvs wrong in hindsight) that I was pissed that you flipped the vote to her in the last two minutes for terrible reasons.

Everything is not black and white. We have no seer here. No one is clear outside of the masons. So my strong village reads are the closest things I have to clear players and I will behave accordingly.


Again, misquoting.
I said nice one or whatever and then placed my vote. I didn't say anything directed at bj at that time.


Seeing as protection or the wolves forgetting to submit a kill are the only ways in this game that a no kill could happen, yeah, it's pretty likely someone was protected. You know wolves get their results before the writeups are posted though, so how exactly would I have been surprised by the on thread results if I were a wolf?
Lol I will answer all of these questions tomorrow morning. I really can't do it right now, for real, but I did want to throw my tin foil out there.
 
Oy. You could have broken this up a little more. How am I supposed to respond to it like this? 😛

There are at least 2 or 3 things in there where you misquoted me or misread something though, so 2/10 on the tinfoil for not doing your research
okay
 
Seeing as protection or the wolves forgetting to submit a kill are the only ways in this game that a no kill could happen, yeah, it's pretty likely someone was protected. You know wolves get their results before the writeups are posted though, so how exactly would I have been surprised by the on thread results if I were a wolf?
You could have faked surprise. 🙂 Not saying you're a wolf, but if you were, it'd be smart to wait 'til night results are out then fake being surprised that nobody got killed that night.
 
The rest of it is mostly repetition except

The counterwagon was me on D1, if they knew ahead of time that Snowy would potentially be a vanilla wolf sacrifice (we didn’t catch/the wolves saved the wolf with the one-shot kill so that they could use in N1, Snowy was a vanilla wolf from the get-go). Along with this, I was the other option and WZ “saved me and caught a wolf”. Remember that the wolves were very intentional by using the extra night kill on the first night (so all of the wolves are now vanilla- easy to sacrifice and have no abilities, unless you count the head wolf that calls the shots, but this isn’t an ability, it is a role). There was a reason that I did not self-prez, and it wasn’t just to not be sketchy (although some wolves do self-prez too), but this is all I can tell you. Now all of the wolves can slowly be used for the head/lead wolf (this definition of about one wolf calling the shots was explained when people were asking about what the roles meant at the beginning of the game- I can find these quotes if you all really want) to sacrifice (since they all lost abilities) to gain village cred.
I have no idea what you're talking about with the head wolf stuff here

Anyway, seems the rest of it is basically that you're mad I yelled at you, and for some reason you think that being wrong is equivalent with being a wolf. Well newsflash nooblet - villagers are wrong all the time, I am wrong all the time and you can ask anyone about that, and nothing here actually points to wolfy behavior.

Just some advice, may want to stop focusing so much on who is shading you or whatever. Someone disagreeing with your actions, or even thinking they are sketchy, does not make them a wolf.
 
You could have faked surprise. 🙂 Not saying you're a wolf, but if you were, it'd be smart to wait 'til night results are out then fake being surprised that nobody got killed that night.
Her argument is that the results were not what I expected. I am questioning how that is wolfy.
 
Gonna put my foot down on this right now, though.

This is not particularly nice, and I don't appreciate it. You can be mad that people are starting to put pressure on you, but it doesn't make it ok to toss out personal attacks. It's childish, unnecessary behavior and it reflects poorly on you outside of the game, in my opinion.
What personal attack? You're reading things into it that aren't there. If you want to say you don't have time to make your full argument right now, then stop dropping partial arguments that you know people will pick up and run with because there are very few people who will take the time to do their own legwork on these things. I sincerely meant good luck and your time is better spent studying if you truly don't have time to be here right now.

You forget I don't know your affiliation here either. The more you stick around bringing up unsubstantiated things and saying them as if they are absolute truths, the more it seems like you're just throwing things out to see what sticks because you want to lynch me. If you have an actual case post it, otherwise I'm going to side eye your claims that you don't have time to :shrug:
 
The rest of it is mostly repetition except


I have no idea what you're talking about with the head wolf stuff here

Anyway, seems the rest of it is basically that you're mad I yelled at you, and for some reason you think that being wrong is equivalent with being a wolf. Well newsflash nooblet - villagers are wrong all the time, I am wrong all the time and you can ask anyone about that, and nothing here actually points to wolfy behavior.

Just some advice, may want to stop focusing so much on who is shading you or whatever. Someone disagreeing with your actions, or even thinking they are sketchy, does not make them a wolf.
The wolf that actually performs the night kills, that is what I am talking about.

And okay.

I will answer you other questions tomorrow when I find the quotes.

I am not mad that you yelled at me, and that is not why I am lynching you, so don't misinterpret my lynch on you as retaliation. I thought you were mad at me because I lynched a villager (viable and I understand this), but we would have lynched a villager if we stayed on Bryndi too (I wouldn't have known this until Bryndi flipped village).
 
I'm still reading through your entire post, but I don't think it's true that the remaining 3 wolves are vanilla. There's still a wolf blocker, which I think is the wolf equivalent of Village Protector.

Edit: We posted at the same time.

There is no seer, so disregard that portion of the PRs in my post

Edit: I am not sure what the wolf blocker is, I have to go back and find where someone explained it, so this wolf is still important, my bad.

Okay, so a wolf blocker is often a counter to a village protector but they're not exact equals. A wolf blocker has the same functionality as a village blocker except they're just trying to target PRs rather than certain affiliations.
 
I sincerely meant good luck and your time is better spent studying if you truly don't have time to be here right now.
@PippyPony, I think you read WZ's tone in that post as much nastier than it was. I mean, there was some snark/sass in a "Why you not studyin instead of dropping posts without elaborating? :shrug: " but I didn't read it as a nasty personal attack to be honest.

Just my my read on the post. It was mildly snarky but not like a legit bitchy thing to say.

But seriously, go finish studying and sleep. Screw this stupid game. There's still 19 hours left til lynch. No big deal.
 
What personal attack? You're reading things into it that aren't there.
I'm reading exactly what is there. And I'm asking you again to knock it off, or I'm going to start reporting your posts. This is twice in one week where you've tossed out a comment with a nasty edge on it based off of things you know about me in real life. I think it's inappropriate and it feels like bullying, so please stop.

That's all I'm going to say about it, because yes, I do have to go study.
 
@PippyPony, I think you read WZ's tone in that post as much nastier than it was. I mean, there was some snark/sass in a "Why you not studyin instead of dropping posts without elaborating? :shrug: " but I didn't read it as a nasty personal attack to be honest.

Just my my read on the post. It was mildly snarky but not like a legit bitchy thing to say.
There is history there; she is aware of said history.
 
@WildZoo Again, I said it was hardcore tinfoiling and I didn't have quotes because I threw out things from my head that I picked up on (sorry if it is not 100% accurate to you- I understand that it may not be, I paraphrased things/situations that I remembered and misquoted the roles, I am sorry for that and I corrected that below, I legitimately tried the best I could today to post my thoughts) Feel free to correct my thoughts (that was all they were, tin-foil thoughts, I don't know anything for sure). I didn't have time to post at all today. I was planning on posting this in the morning, but I had to leave for work when the night actions came out, so I didn't have time to read through everything today, and I would have said it this morning too if I had the chance. If you are really upset that I had to work and couldn't analyze every single thing, then I will happily sub out. I am doing the best I can with the time I had. I would not be upset if you want me to sub out at all for this (that is understandable), I didn't read through everything yesterday right before lynch either (that was bad on me) because I was looking for a SAR quote that stuck out to me and that is why I changed my vote in the last minute.

Edit: I to my
 
The wolf that actually performs the night kills, that is what I am talking about.

And okay.

I will answer you other questions tomorrow when I find the quotes.

I am not mad that you yelled at me, and that is not why I am lynching you, so don't misinterpret my lynch on you as retaliation. I thought you were mad at me because I lynched a villager (viable and I understand this), but we would have lynched a villager if we stayed on Bryndi too (I wouldn't have known this until Bryndi flipped village).
I got that you were talking about whichever wolf is doing the kill each night, I just don't understand what conclusion you were coming to with that part of your post and how it related to your argument for lynching me.

I was mad because of the way you did it and the timing. Lynching villagers is normal. You came into a lynch that was very tight and placed a vote out of left field with less than two minutes to go. I don't know if you had even read the rest of the thread at that point, not sure, but it seemed like you hadn't. Since I had been watching things closely and at that point was trying to figure out what to make of bj voting for herself and generally acting like she no longer cared, it really screwed with things.
 
If you are really upset that I had to work and couldn't analyze every single thing, then I will happily sub out. I am doing the best I can with the time I had. I would not be upset if you want me to sub out at all for this (that is understandable),
Don't sub out unless you're swamped with work/school/life. I, for one, enjoy your company and hope you stay.
 
I'm reading exactly what is there. And I'm asking you again to knock it off, or I'm going to start reporting your posts. This is twice in one week where you've tossed out a comment with a nasty edge on it based off of things you know about me in real life. I think it's inappropriate and it feels like bullying, so please stop.

That's all I'm going to say about it, because yes, I do have to go study.
I honestly don't know what the **** you are talking about, though the threat to report posts that in no way violate TOS is real cool. I don't know what you think I was trying to get at or how in the world anything I've said could be considered bullying.
 
@WildZoo Again, I said it was hardcore tinfoiling and I didn't have quotes because I threw out things from my head that I picked up on (sorry if it is not 100% accurate to you- I understand that it may not be, I paraphrased things/situations that I remembered and misquoted the roles, I am sorry for that and I corrected that below, I legitimately tried the best I could today to post my thoughts) Feel free to correct my thoughts (that was all they were, tin-foil thoughts, I don't know anything for sure). I didn't have time to post at all today. I was planning on posting this in the morning, but I had to leave for work when the night actions came out, so I didn't have time to read through everything today, and I would have said it this morning too if I had the chance. If you are really upset that I had to work and couldn't analyze every single thing, then I will happily sub out. I am doing the best I can with the time I had. I would not be upset if you want me to sub out at all for this (that is understandable), I didn't read through everything yesterday right before lynch either (that was bad on me) because I was looking for a SAR quote that stuck out to me and that is why I changed my vote in the last minute.

Edit: I to my
I'm not asking you to sub out. I do think it's irresponsible to post things without actually fact checking, and if you don't have time to do so that's fine, but your choices there are
1) Don't post it or
2) accept getting called out for it

I don't think I said anywhere that you had to be here all day or analyze everything. I'm going to defend myself though, as is my right and responsibility in the game :shrug:
 
I'm not asking you to sub out. I do think it's irresponsible to post things without actually fact checking, and if you don't have time to do so that's fine, but your choices there are
1) Don't post it or
2) accept getting called out for it

I don't think I said anywhere that you had to be here all day or analyze everything. I'm going to defend myself though, as is my right and responsibility in the game :shrug:
I'm not disagreeing with you.
 
I'm not disagreeing with you.
We're all good then. You don't have to address everything I've said now or justify why you don't have time to, I didn't really expect you to. There was just a lot there and I have a busy day tomorrow myself so wanted to get my two cents in while I can.
 
There is history there; she is aware of said history.
Actually strog read my post exactly how it was intended and you are assuming I meant something more than that. Whatever history you're referring to did not even enter my mind.
 
Day 4 Lynch Tracker
contingencies:
shelter (1) - AM
pickles (1) - barks
dubz (1) - bj
dubz (2) - pip
shelter (2) - dina
bj (1) - pickles
bj (0) - pickles
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bj (1) - dubz
bj (2) - strog
pickles (0) - barks
shelter (3) - barks
bj (1) - strog
shelter (4) - strog
dubz (1) - pippy
bj (2) - pippy
shelter (5) - sporty
bj (3) - genny
shelter (6) - MJ
shelter (5) - dina
bj (4) - dina
bj (5) - cubs
bj (6) - shelter
shelter (6) - allie
bj (7) - pickles
dubz (0) - bj
shelter (7) - bj


Day 1 Lynch Tracker

sporty (1) - stagg
stagg
(1) - AM
stagg (2) - SAR
strog (1) - pickles
strog (2) - paws
sporty (2) - zigzagoon
zigzagoon
(1) - barks
SAR (1) - dolphin
stagg (3) - bj
AM (1) - dubz
dina (1) - snowy
strog (1) - paws
dolphin (1) - paws
strog (2) - shelter
strog (1) - pickles
stagg (4) - genny
cheezit (1) - pickles
AM (2) - MJ
sporty (1) - stagg
AM (3) - stagg
zigzagoon
(2) - dina
sporty (0) - zigzagoon
devyn (1) - zigzagoon
cheezit (0) - pickles
sporty (1) - pickles
snowy (1) - cheezit
AM (2) - dubz
stagg (5) - dubz
AM (3) - allie
dina (1) - snowy
paws (1) - snowy
SAR (2) - sporty
sporty (0) - pickles
shelter (1) - pickles
devyn (0) - zig
stagg (6) - zig
zig
(3) - strog
zig (2) - strog
SAR (3) - strog
AM (2) - stagg
allie (1) - stagg
stagg (5) - AM
snowy (2) - AM
allie (0) - stagg
snowy (3) - stagg
snowy (2) - stagg
SAR (4) - stagg

Day 2 Lynch Tracker

snowy (1) - AM
snowy (2) - paws
SAR (1) - dubz
snowy (3) - dina
snowy (4) - cheezit
shelter (1) - sporty
strog (1) - pickles
pickles (1) - strog
allie (1) - genny
strog (0) - pickles
pickles (2) - snowy
shelter (2) - pickles
Dina (1) - SAR
shelter (1) - pickles
strog (1) - pickles
pickles (3) - barks
pickles (4) - MJ
snowy (3) - cheezit
snowy (2) - AM
dina (2) - AM
genny (1) - cheezit
sar (0) - dubz
allie (2) - dubz
dina (3) - bj
pickles (3) - snowy
dina (4) - snowy
dina (3) - AM
shelter (2) - AM
pickles (2) - barks
snowy (3) - barks
genny (0) - cheezit
snowy (4) - cheezit
dina (2) - snowy
pickles (3) - snowy
dina (1) - bj
SAR (1) - bj
dina (0) - SAR
snowy (5) - SAR
pickles (4) - allie

Day 3 Lynch Tracker

contingencies:
bj (1) - SAR
dubz (1) - cheezit
pippy (1) - MJ
night close

SAR
(1) - bj
shelter (1) - AM
dina (1) - barks
bj (2) - dubz
bj (3) - pickles
dina (0) - barks
allie (1) - pippy
allie (2) - genny
SAR (2) - shelter
barks (1) - allie
bj (4) - dina
SAR (1) - bj
shelter (2) - bj
shelter (3) - sporty
allie (1) - pippy
SAR (2) - pippy
strog (1) - cubs
shelter (4) - barks
SAR (3) - strog
pippy (0) - MJ
SAR (4) - MJ
shelter (3) - bj
bj (5) - bj
SAR (3) - pippy
dubz (1) - pippy
bj (4) - bj
dubz (2) - bj
bj (3) - pickles
SAR (4) - pickles
lynch close
shelter - AM
bj - AM
 
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