Did you use acupuncture on the turtle?!?! (that is the extent of my turtle anesthesia knowledge)still have one last day on anesthesia and will be on call over the weekend, but I felt great today after researching a hard case and coming up with a plan and executing it. It went better than I had hoped and the anesthesia people were very pleased as well. Good feels. I have really enjoyed this rotation and learned so much that I will take into practice. Plus, I fortuitously happened in on a turtle case that is cool that I already read up on now for anesthesia since I'll be on that rotation next.
Care to share your sources for this? I've never heard of it either (I only ask because there is a lot of iffy ways people 'anesthetize' fish, amphibians, and reptiles).
I will check my notes, but the acupuncture isn’t the actual anesthesia agent, but, turtles are apparently really good at shunting their blood from different areas (such as their lungs) making inhaled anesthetics kind of useless, but if you place a single needle in their nose, they can’t really shunt their blood away from their lungs, making the inhaled anesthetic more likely to work. I’m going off memory here, so those details may not be perfect. I’ll look it up when I’m on my computer though!
Yes, please share if you can! From my knowledge, utilizing the philtrum doesn't change anything physiologically and just stimulates the recipient to breathe (which would help if you're battling a dive response). I've successfully used it in apneic anesthetized birds and actually just talked about it with a zoo med clinician in the context of speeding up reptile anesthesia induction/recovery. Would be cool to know if there is evidence out there that it actually changes shunting.
ah yes. We did do this to attempt to stimulate a wabbit to wake using just a needle, but I don't think it really did much.Yes, please share if you can! From my knowledge, utilizing the philtrum doesn't change anything physiologically and just stimulates the recipient to breathe (which would help if you're battling a dive response). I've successfully used it in apneic anesthetized birds and actually just talked about it with a zoo med clinician in the context of speeding up reptile anesthesia induction/recovery. Would be cool to know if there is evidence out there that it actually changes shunting.
I've never tried the philtrum in a turtle/tortoise mysef, I've always induced with propofol IV/IO (I've seen it done with the subcarapacial sinus and done it once myself, but you need to be confident in your stick and some people don't like inducing with the sinus) and maintained on gas. Never needed to stimulate breathing since you have to manually ventilate a chelonian the entire time it's fully anesthetized anyways.
I geek out over reptiles and I really like anesthesia
I haven't had much luck with it in mammals but there's good research out there that has really good success rates in cats/dogs.
Yup. Plus each animal has its own natural period of breathing and waking up depending on physiology and duration/anesthetic agents, so hard to know if it actually had anything to do with the recovery. This was healthy animal just routine spay.
I'll do mine too so you don't feel alone
We have two foals, and their respective healthy mares. That's it. Even the colic emergency I had while I was on call went home a day later. I shouldn't complain because no one wants to be slammed, but when you think about it, this is our last chance to see these cases before the NAVLE.
That's amazing!!! Good luck!!! I'm over 3 years away but it still makes me nervous to think aboutRegistered for NAVLE. Checking those boxes for licensed to practice!
Time flies really. And if you simply learn the material as you go through your years, it really isn't all that scary in my opinion. I've gone through some vet prep and I feel like most of the material I have a solid base for having kept the knowledge building throughout my years. And clinics is just putting that foundation to the test to build your ability to put it all together. Plus I have a decent awareness of where my knowledge gaps are now, so I can hit those and boost that before the actual test comes. I am one of the lucky ones though that hasn't had issues with test anxiety, so I thank my stars for that.That's amazing!!! Good luck!!! I'm over 3 years away but it still makes me nervous to think about
oof. yeah, SAIM will be my rotation after next. I had Sunday night called in at midnight then again at 2 am that lasted until four then had to be back at 7. I was on the struggle bus Monday for sure.
Same, cried a little at the $$$.Registered for NAVLE. Checking those boxes for licensed to practice!
yeah, we got sent all the stuff needed if using OK, but I was not, so luckily the state I have chosen seems to be if NAVLE peeps approve you for them, you are approved for the state. plus much less $$
Also salty at the fact that I have no idea where I'm going so I just picked my home state as a default. Now that I've done that, I pretty much sealed the deal on getting a job in any other state so I'll have to pay more for their license.
I cracked up a bit that OK charges 185 for their fee but then say they wave the 85 dollar fee if you need to transfer. Basically they are ensuring they get $85 more dollars from those that didn't plan on practicing elsewhere and making it seem like a deal for those that don't know yet. :/
Internal med must be rough for every school, then. I haven't had it yet but your lack of sleep is on par with Illinois' IM service. Glad you're getting some much deserved recognition!
IM is insane but the wins are suuuccchhh good wins.
yeah, my medical records and discharges were pretty weak. Still needs work in my opinion, but they are improving thanks to the efforts of our zew intern. She is fantastic about letting me fail then learn and improve exponentially. I am very thankful to have had her early so when I hit internal med in two rotations, I have a better handle on this particular aspect.
was there a birth yet?
Still waiting. She was due the 19th!
So crazy when a kitteh comes in and you think they have to be 18 or so, but you find out they are only 10. Amazing what FIV can do sometimes.
So crazy when a kitteh comes in and you think they have to be 18 or so, but you find out they are only 10. Amazing what FIV can do sometimes.
Yiiiiiiiikes. Are those solo shifts?
Yeah, all of our overnight/weekend stuff is solo. For equine, there is usually a tech there on weeknights but other than that you're dealing with horses alone.
