Class of 2020... how you doin?

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Hi all! I am wondering if any of you are considering transferring, or know someone who has? Basically I do not feel comfortable here at my school, feel like I don't fit in with my classmates and all that. There has also been some family stuff back home going on so I am considering transferring to my in-state, which is UMN. Their application asks why I am considering transfer, but I don't know what to put other than my family situation that I should be home for. UMN also has access to a few more resources like the big raptor center, zoos, etc that I would like to have access too. Anyways, not really sure if I should try transferring or if it is a wasted effort. :-(
I know two people that have attempted to transfer and it did not work for either of them. Wishing you the best of luck.
 
Update: I'm pretty excited because some how I was a really lucky guesser and got over 100% on my anatomy quiz.... so my definition of wrecked is apparently skewed. :heckyeah:
I've found that the unwarranted panic that first years express is one of the main overwhelming drains and why second year is better after a bit of confidence is built. lol
 
I've found that the unwarranted panic that first years express is one of the main overwhelming drains and why second year is better after a bit of confidence is built. lol
First year is a learning experience no doubt. Some panic warranted and some not, and every once in a while there probably should be panic when there is apathy instead. There will always be some good days and some bad, but it all usually works out in the end. 🙂
 
First year is a learning experience no doubt. Some panic warranted and some not, and every once in a while there probably should be panic when there is apathy instead. There will always be some good days and some bad, but it all usually works out in the end. 🙂
Welp, I can guarantee the apathy becomes the thing to conquer going forward. Especially spring semesters. Soooo much don't cares. haha
 
Welp, I can guarantee the apathy becomes the thing to conquer going forward. Especially spring semesters. Soooo much don't cares. haha
Apathy is already my biggest problem right now, so I don't even want to imagine what terrifying heights it will reach as I move through vet school. It may become its own separate entity, join the class, and then drop out.
 
Apathy is already my biggest problem right now, so I don't even want to imagine what terrifying heights it will reach as I move through vet school. It may become its own separate entity, join the class, and then drop out.
It just becomes part of the norm. Amazing things we adapt to. Humans really are quite fascinating.
 
Hi all! I am wondering if any of you are considering transferring, or know someone who has? Basically I do not feel comfortable here at my school, feel like I don't fit in with my classmates and all that. There has also been some family stuff back home going on so I am considering transferring to my in-state, which is UMN. Their application asks why I am considering transfer, but I don't know what to put other than my family situation that I should be home for. UMN also has access to a few more resources like the big raptor center, zoos, etc that I would like to have access too. Anyways, not really sure if I should try transferring or if it is a wasted effort. :-(

Little different situation in that she txfr'd from int'l back to U.S., but @DVMDream may have some useful comments. Not sure.
 
Got a 56% on the lecture part of my large animal anatomy test. Did better on the lab practical, but still. Eff this. :bang:

I failed the lecture part of our large animal anatomy test. I still graduated. I got a B overall in anatomy. You'll be ok.

I also failed one section of a histopath test when I - out of sheer lack of paying attention - filled out an answer sheet vertically instead of horizontally like it was numbered. They had "1. ___ 2.___ 3. ___ 4. ___" and I got #1 correct, then answered #2 on the next line down where it said "5. ___", etc. The teacher was sympathetic, but stuck to the "hey, these are the answers you gave" platform and graded it like I filled it out. I definitely don't blame him. Not his fault I was an idiot.

Ugh, those arrow/puncture wound questions suck so hard. We had a bunch last semester during our viscera unit. I feel you guys.

What? Why are you guys getting all sorts of arrow/gunshot/whatever wound questions? What are they trying to accomplish? It's not like you see that every day in clinical practice. I did just have one last week, and the attached pics were another of our cases, but it's not like it's a day-in, day-out thing. For sure, blunt force trauma is WAY more common (not counting laceration/bite wounds, the majority of which don't penetrate the abd/thx). And honestly, gunshot wounds are way less sexy to deal with than they sound.

Just seems weird to grill vet students on that specific type of injury.
 

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I failed the lecture part of our large animal anatomy test. I still graduated. I got a B overall in anatomy. You'll be ok.

I also failed one section of a histopath test when I - out of sheer lack of paying attention - filled out an answer sheet vertically instead of horizontally like it was numbered. They had "1. ___ 2.___ 3. ___ 4. ___" and I got #1 correct, then answered #2 on the next line down where it said "5. ___", etc. The teacher was sympathetic, but stuck to the "hey, these are the answers you gave" platform and graded it like I filled it out. I definitely don't blame him. Not his fault I was an idiot.



What? Why are you guys getting all sorts of arrow/gunshot/whatever wound questions? What are they trying to accomplish? It's not like you see that every day in clinical practice. I did just have one last week, and the attached pics were another of our cases, but it's not like it's a day-in, day-out thing. For sure, blunt force trauma is WAY more common (not counting laceration/bite wounds, the majority of which don't penetrate the abd/thx). And honestly, gunshot wounds are way less sexy to deal with than they sound.

Just seems weird to grill vet students on that specific type of injury.
They I think are more like what are the likely structures passed through, not necessarily focused on the injury itself. We like to ask these type of questions like what is the needle/scalpel passing through from superficial to deep kind of thing.
 
I failed the lecture part of our large animal anatomy test. I still graduated. I got a B overall in anatomy. You'll be ok.

I also failed one section of a histopath test when I - out of sheer lack of paying attention - filled out an answer sheet vertically instead of horizontally like it was numbered. They had "1. ___ 2.___ 3. ___ 4. ___" and I got #1 correct, then answered #2 on the next line down where it said "5. ___", etc. The teacher was sympathetic, but stuck to the "hey, these are the answers you gave" platform and graded it like I filled it out. I definitely don't blame him. Not his fault I was an idiot.



What? Why are you guys getting all sorts of arrow/gunshot/whatever wound questions? What are they trying to accomplish? It's not like you see that every day in clinical practice. I did just have one last week, and the attached pics were another of our cases, but it's not like it's a day-in, day-out thing. For sure, blunt force trauma is WAY more common (not counting laceration/bite wounds, the majority of which don't penetrate the abd/thx). And honestly, gunshot wounds are way less sexy to deal with than they sound.

Just seems weird to grill vet students on that specific type of injury.

It's probably one of those stupid... "a dog is shot with an arrow through the chest and rests at x point. How many serosal layers did the arrow penetrate? I hated those questions.
 
What? Why are you guys getting all sorts of arrow/gunshot/whatever wound questions? What are they trying to accomplish? It's not like you see that every day in clinical practice. I did just have one last week, and the attached pics were another of our cases, but it's not like it's a day-in, day-out thing. For sure, blunt force trauma is WAY more common (not counting laceration/bite wounds, the majority of which don't penetrate the abd/thx). And honestly, gunshot wounds are way less sexy to deal with than they sound.

Just seems weird to grill vet students on that specific type of injury.

For us, they're considered "applied anatomy questions" where we have to do more than just regurg what we've memorized. Some sort of critical thinking shenanigans.
 
And I have officially hit panic phase for my midterm on Friday. I almost made it, but no dice. I think it was the snow storm that hit us.
 
We have two exams on Monday (lecture and lab) and the amount of information is OVERWHELMING. Two weeks of lecture (30 classroom hours?) and 4 weeks of lab condensed into two ~55 question exams. This is painful!
 
As a bonus, my professor is so extra and I love it. He printed a million page document about water contaminant standards and I would bet money he knows it cover to cover
 
Okay, so I'm on a break from studying and thinking about future careers. I have gone from ER/CC, rural, teaching, canine repro, and government.

With that in mind, does anyone know how a veterinarian becomes a state veterinarian? I've done some superficial Google searches and have come up with a list of the state vets, but that's about it. Anyone have any suggestions?
 
Okay, so I'm on a break from studying and thinking about future careers. I have gone from ER/CC, rural, teaching, canine repro, and government.

With that in mind, does anyone know how a veterinarian becomes a state veterinarian? I've done some superficial Google searches and have come up with a list of the state vets, but that's about it. Anyone have any suggestions?
It's a very long process and, frankly, you wait for the current state veterinarian to die.

But also, look up the IL state vet and see if there's any way you can get in contact and shadow them. I know the CO state vet (+ a lot of other random regulatory vets associated with the state) and they're all very accommodating and willing to do informational interviews/shadowing/etc.
 
Okay, so I'm on a break from studying and thinking about future careers. I have gone from ER/CC, rural, teaching, canine repro, and government.

With that in mind, does anyone know how a veterinarian becomes a state veterinarian? I've done some superficial Google searches and have come up with a list of the state vets, but that's about it. Anyone have any suggestions?

We had the AZ state vet do a guest lecture for my one health class. Pretty sure you need an MPH and possibly even a phD. Lots of research and previous experience in the public health field is needed! He worked for the CDC first I think... it's a tough job to get!
 
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It's a very long process and, frankly, you wait for the current state veterinarian to die.

But also, look up the IL state vet and see if there's any way you can get in contact and shadow them. I know the CO state vet (+ a lot of other random regulatory vets associated with the state) and they're all very accommodating and willing to do informational interviews/shadowing/etc.

I would go with the CO state vet, but I'm thinking it would be awkward since my family knows most of the department of Ag people because of our stores. I wasn't sure if it would be a weird conflict of interest situation.

But I did find the state veterinarian's info for IL. So that could potentially be a simmer project.
 
I would go with the CO state vet, but I'm thinking it would be awkward since my family knows most of the department of Ag people because of our stores. I wasn't sure if it would be a weird conflict of interest situation.

But I did find the state veterinarian's info for IL. So that could potentially be a simmer project.
If you interested in regulatory type work you should also see if local health departments have veterinarians. Those jobs are often easier to get and those vets are super fun. County/district/city level vets can all be exciting depending on where you look. I would even be willing to bet there's somebody who works for veterinary public health in Chicago whose job is probably pretty fun lol.
 
If you interested in regulatory type work you should also see if local health departments have veterinarians. Those jobs are often easier to get and those vets are super fun. County/district/city level vets can all be exciting depending on where you look. I would even be willing to bet there's somebody who works for veterinary public health in Chicago whose job is probably pretty fun lol.

Thank you so much!

I am thinking more of the regulatory side of things. The department of Ag meetings and city council meetings are interesting and yet so frustrating at the same time. I'd like to get experience seeing the other side of regulations.
 
Thank you so much!

I am thinking more of the regulatory side of things. The department of Ag meetings and city council meetings are interesting and yet so frustrating at the same time. I'd like to get experience seeing the other side of regulations.
There's definitely a lot of regulatory work out there if you're willing to look! A lot of those jobs may prefer an MPH but it's not a requirement in many areas and many of them would also be willing to pay for some of that education after hiring you if they really liked you. Lots of regulatory work is in the federal government (the big ones are FSIS & APHIS with the USDA, although CDC, NPS, DFW, and others definitely take vets too, just not at as high of numbers as USDA). However, hiring with the feds right now is probably a bit dicey due to the government hiring freeze (ostensibly there's an exception for departments that deal with public health/safety, but the definition of that is dicey and people tend to forget about veterinary public health until there's a hideous foodborne disease or bird flu outbreak lol).

Also the veterinarians I've met who worked for the CDC all worked for the Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) before going on the other positions within CDC. The EIS positions are super competitive and they're basically the people that the CDC mobilizes when called out to an outbreak, so travel demands can be pretty high (I met one lady who was sent out to work on ebola and Zika during her year in the program). Also, CDC's focus and orientation in general is toward human health, which isn't a bad thing, but be aware that jobs with them will frequently be focused on human disease outbreaks and work with animals will largely be based around identifying them as exposures/risk factors/etc. in zoonotic transmission of diseases to humans.

There's a lot of work to be had at county and smaller levels though. There's a lady in my MPH classes who was the DVM for Boulder county and she worked on plague cases and animal cruelty cases and all sorts of other weird things in between.

Um, anyway, I sort of went off on a tangent about the CDC, but you get my point haha
 
Anyone want to take my physiology exam for me tomorrow?

It's gonna be very painful.
 
Anyone want to take my physiology exam for me tomorrow?

It's gonna be very painful.
what part of physio? Ive got a decent grasp on cardio. Will trade you for my parasitology test.
 
what part of physio? Ive got a decent grasp on cardio. Will trade you for my parasitology test.

I wish it was cardio. I love cardio. This is GI. Would still gladly trade for parasit.
Either of you can come take my cardiovascular phys test tomorrow. The material I've gone through isn't that hard, I've just slacked off all week and won't have time to get through everything. :dead:
 
We did cardio phys last semester. I mixed up the mitral and tricuspid valves because I'm an idiot.

Micro exam actually went well considering I only started studying on Wednesday 👍 Epidemiology is a week from today (on my birthday :arghh: ) so I think I might start studying a little earlier, especially since GI phys is after that...and then anatomy :scared:
 
We have our thorax anatomy practical; respiratory and cardio physio, histo, imaging, and neuro test today. Then brownies and cleaning and Grey's Anatomy
 
I failed my first test of vet school 🙁 70 on my anatomy exam, 75 was passing. Not super surprised though. This semester we have weekly quizzes instead of a written section on exams. I've aced all of those, and always did on the exams, and it was 15% of our exam grade before so I know that was always bumping me up before. Not really worried, since this exam was worth the least of all of them and quizzes are worth 20% of our overall grade still, just bummed 🙁 anatomy is the class I study the most for and am in lab or the museum a few times a week reviewing things and try so hard, but it's just not how my brain thinks.

I'm doing well in everything else, so I know it's not like I'm totally failing or anything. But this week has been ****ty and that on top of it has not been fun. Thank god today is our last exam for a week. I need a lazy weekend.
 
I failed my first test of vet school 🙁 70 on my anatomy exam, 75 was passing. Not super surprised though. This semester we have weekly quizzes instead of a written section on exams. I've aced all of those, and always did on the exams, and it was 15% of our exam grade before so I know that was always bumping me up before. Not really worried, since this exam was worth the least of all of them and quizzes are worth 20% of our overall grade still, just bummed 🙁 anatomy is the class I study the most for and am in lab or the museum a few times a week reviewing things and try so hard, but it's just not how my brain thinks.

I'm doing well in everything else, so I know it's not like I'm totally failing or anything. But this week has been ****ty and that on top of it has not been fun. Thank god today is our last exam for a week. I need a lazy weekend.

Sorry Caiter, it's rough when a subject just won't stick. You're not alone and we all have our subject. That's neuro for me, it would come up in all of our classes and every time I struggled to wrap my head around it. Keep chugging along and you'll be okay.
 
I failed my first test of vet school 🙁 70 on my anatomy exam, 75 was passing. Not super surprised though. This semester we have weekly quizzes instead of a written section on exams. I've aced all of those, and always did on the exams, and it was 15% of our exam grade before so I know that was always bumping me up before. Not really worried, since this exam was worth the least of all of them and quizzes are worth 20% of our overall grade still, just bummed 🙁 anatomy is the class I study the most for and am in lab or the museum a few times a week reviewing things and try so hard, but it's just not how my brain thinks.

I'm doing well in everything else, so I know it's not like I'm totally failing or anything. But this week has been ****ty and that on top of it has not been fun. Thank god today is our last exam for a week. I need a lazy weekend.
Hugs, Caiter. Hope you have a good weekend and you can rest and recharge <3
 
I failed my first test of vet school 🙁 70 on my anatomy exam, 75 was passing. Not super surprised though. This semester we have weekly quizzes instead of a written section on exams. I've aced all of those, and always did on the exams, and it was 15% of our exam grade before so I know that was always bumping me up before. Not really worried, since this exam was worth the least of all of them and quizzes are worth 20% of our overall grade still, just bummed 🙁 anatomy is the class I study the most for and am in lab or the museum a few times a week reviewing things and try so hard, but it's just not how my brain thinks.

I'm doing well in everything else, so I know it's not like I'm totally failing or anything. But this week has been ****ty and that on top of it has not been fun. Thank god today is our last exam for a week. I need a lazy weekend.
I'm really sorry to hear that you're having a rough time. If it's any consolation at all, you're not the only one having major issues with anatomy. I made a D- on our first test last Friday and the class average was significantly above that. It seemed like pretty much everyone did significantly better than I did. Needless to say, I felt stupid, inadequate, and was extremely frustrated. I also struggled a lot with anatomy last semester, too, and just barely passed the class (though to be fair, I barely passed period)---I probably wouldn't have if it weren't for an offered remedial exam. It's especially annoying because I am doing much better this semester academically in the other classes if my test grades so far are any indication... but for whatever reason I cannot seem to crack anatomy and I've tried a variety of study techniques and, like you, I spend the better part of my week studying and reviewing. It just isn't sticking how it should.

Thankfully, the professor has reached out to me and we're meeting on Monday to discuss possible strategies for improving my learning and performance in the course. Maybe you could arrange something similar with yours?

Definitely take the weekend off, recuperate, and hopefully you can bounce back from this setback and excel on the next test. You can do this, Caiter! You're smart, you deserve to be there, and we all have the utmost faith in you. 🙂
 
Thanks, guys! I know it'll be fine. I'm still passing the class with quizzes added in.

My professors knows how hard I work in that class (they see me there after school a lot haha), and one of them offered to meet with me if I want to review stuff with me.

But I did really well on my path exam today, so that was a nice end to the week!
 
I'm really sorry to hear that you're having a rough time. If it's any consolation at all, you're not the only one having major issues with anatomy. I made a D- on our first test last Friday and the class average was significantly above that. It seemed like pretty much everyone did significantly better than I did. Needless to say, I felt stupid, inadequate, and was extremely frustrated. I also struggled a lot with anatomy last semester, too, and just barely passed the class (though to be fair, I barely passed period)---I probably wouldn't have if it weren't for an offered remedial exam. It's especially annoying because I am doing much better this semester academically in the other classes if my test grades so far are any indication... but for whatever reason I cannot seem to crack anatomy and I've tried a variety of study techniques and, like you, I spend the better part of my week studying and reviewing. It just isn't sticking how it should.

Thankfully, the professor has reached out to me and we're meeting on Monday to discuss possible strategies for improving my learning and performance in the course. Maybe you could arrange something similar with yours?

Definitely take the weekend off, recuperate, and hopefully you can bounce back from this setback and excel on the next test. You can do this, Caiter! You're smart, you deserve to be there, and we all have the utmost faith in you. 🙂

Regardless of your performance, the tone of this post is so awesome compared to a few months ago. That's growth for sure :=|:-):
 
SO and I were driving down the highway today and we passed a farm with some cows.

Me: "Hey cows I know about your intestines!"

*SO rolls down his window* "HEY SHE KNOWS ABOUT YOUR INTESTINES" *rolls up window* "Figured they couldn't hear you from here and that's something they should know"

:laugh:
 
SO and I were driving down the highway today and we passed a farm with some cows.

Me: "Hey cows I know about your intestines!"

*SO rolls down his window* "HEY SHE KNOWS ABOUT YOUR INTESTINES" *rolls up window* "Figured they couldn't hear you from here and that's something they should know"

:laugh:

:barf:sappy gf/bf moment.
 
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