Death Nommy - Game Thread

[DVMDream]

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...for the future, not rn. But someday.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Boy, do I feel this.

I guess I just don't trust you D1.

Do you trust me now?

 

[WildZoo]

Many have shared names. Clem has not. I don't think he is concerned with that, at least not visibly.

Who are your three? Apologies if you already shared.

Too slow Jaysopher

 

[DVMDream]

Do you trust me now?

No.

 

[Zenge142]

Where are your three names??

Who are your three?

If I had to pick 3 names it would probably be Fruitsalad, PSV, genny. But open to other ideas

 

[Aprilthearab]

Unsure if I'll be around for thread close so

Yeet clem

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The hammer is 7 votes I believe. That's 5.

 

[SARdoghandler]

I'm starting at the top and working my way down I think. I also decided that I'm going to reward myself by picking a gif to sum up the vibe at the end because that's fun. Like getting a skittle for reading a paragraph

Spoiler: Zenge iso

Samac
April
Dubz
genny
PSV
Indy
rae
DVMD
Stagg
SAR
Clem
fruitsalad
JJJ

Vibes and feels. But I’m not necessarily going to vote for JJJ here. I don’t want to be too hasty.

I don't hate this list. I feel like there's a good amount of consensus here as well as some more unconventional reads for the state of the thread at the time, doesn't feel wolfy.

Ones name is Indy and the other is Rae.

It’s just vibes and feels.

I’ll die on this hill. But also reevaluate as the game goes on.

I like the jokey, relaxed tone of these two posts. Feel pure.

Honestly I struggled a lot with a cool color transition.

It’s mostly a loosely ordered vibes and feels list. Not the Gospel of Zenges

I like this post less. Absolutely could be that the read list in question was made early and it is vibes (as stated). But could also be a wolf who threw people in categories without too much thought into defending them. I do think though that this interaction in particular is somewhat compelling that fruit and zenges are likely not w/w. Doesn't feel like an interaction that I would expect. Of course, only becomes relevant if one or the other gets a red check.

Genny was a 3p who knew who the wolves are in mission impossible.

Why are you holding it against her that she’s playing differently from *that* situation?

I like Zenge pointing this out. If he was a wolf, easier to just let the wrong assumption slide and see if it leads to more genny sus. Unless w/w - but again, that would be analysis for later pending a red check. Until then, more likely a village point for Zenge

Delta Airlines:
Dubz
Samac
JJJ
rae
Indy
SAR

United Airlines:
Clem
DVMD
PSV

Spirit Airlines:
April
genny
fruitsalad

This is kind of where I’m at with my catch up finished now. A lot of it is honestly just process of elimination, with some vibes and feels in there.

I don’t think any of the vote options are a hit, so what we should do as villagers is coalesce around 3 names we want to see as an option for tomorrow, that way whoever we vote can at least help village take back the power of choice tomorrow.

Anyway, gotta 🛩️ for now.

New reads post that has quite a lot of movement from his D1 reads. Again, feels good because I'd expect a wolf to probably have somewhat more static reads that are less volatile. Changing reads like this can draw attention, and questions about why people are where they are which is probably not the kind of question a wolf wants to answer.

My overall impression of Zenge, in gif format would be

idk I'm feeling good vibes. Better on an iso to get a good idea of overall tone rather than what I was gleaning from my check ins on thread.

One thing I found interesting is that the Zenge portion of the Zenge/Clem argument was surprisingly tame on iso, not exactly fitting the narrative I think a few people espoused of it being a strong attack on each other from both sides. So I think my overall impression of that is anyone who tried to push a w/v Zenge/Clem universe may be getting extra sketch points for pushing what I think was v/v shoving. Will pay more attention to this again when I get to the Clem portion (unfortunately on the bottom of my list, especially if he is yoten today)

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

No.

Ironic since we have many of the same suspects. You were griping about that earlier with others.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Is PSV universally a Jay hater or does that only come up when she's village and therefore paranoid

Or is she aware enough of her own Jay paranoia that she'd replicate it as a wolf anyway...

Probably not that useful of a metric but I am curious!

I don't think I've ever played with him when I'm not village. And I certainly wouldn't describe myself as a hater, but I'm also not willing to give him village points as easily as everyone else does.

My gut says that genny would have more interactions/mentions of Stagg if they were w/w. I feel like she is a bit more of a hands-on wolfing partner

I'm not sure I agree with this

 

[DVMDream]

Ironic since we have many of the same suspects. You were griping about that earlier with others.

I am just messing with you, being sarcastic.

But I also never completely trust anyone. Trust. No one.

 

[WildZoo]

I don't think I've ever played with him when I'm not village. And I certainly wouldn't describe myself as a hater, but I'm also not willing to give him village points as easily as everyone else does.

I was using the term hater as jesty shorthand, not to say you actually hate him and want him to die!

I also don't think he got village points very easily this game to be fair

 

[SARdoghandler]

She's been gone for 35 minutes guys, do you think she drowned??

If she actually opened my ISO

Or the fire toddler is refusing to stay in bed.

This progression made me laugh I'm just really slow yall

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

PSV is allowed to suspect me more often than others given the end of Stardeww2 (she and I were in the endgame together). In this case I wonder if it's being fudged since the rationale was never great, but it doesn't have to be so.

 

[SARdoghandler]

@JaggedJimmyJay I will now take my kudos though. Look at my amazing iso of one player! Give me positive reinforcement!

 

[potentialsheltervet]

New exercise while we're in a bit of down-time.

If any one player is broadly trusted by consensus and is a wolf, which player would you suspect first?

You, obviously.

I might have the same answer.

Why? And is Zenge considered consensus town?

I know, that's why it's only helpful as a mild lean. But just like I said to Dubz about myself, she could have at least mentioned the absence, tagged him, said literally anything about the wolfy pop in (she only said Stagg is a lazy vote but not wrong and that was it), etc. Iirc genny likes to distance from her packmates and question them on thread

I disagree again.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Do you trust me now?

Not especially, but I don't especially not trust you.

 

[Zenge142]

And is Zenge considered consensus town?

I believe so. But that’s my opinion I suppose.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@JaggedJimmyJay I will now take my kudos though. Look at my amazing iso of one player! Give me positive reinforcement!

Thanks for the hustle, SAR!

I'll need time to process everything you wrote. I agree with your impression of Zenge's reads mobility. He hasn't been static, and I think that's a good thing.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

PSV is allowed to suspect me more often than others given the end of Stardeww2 (she and I were in the endgame together). In this case I wonder if it's being fudged since the rationale was never great, but it doesn't have to be so.

You don't have to like or agree with my rationale. Doesn't mean it isn't great in my own way.

 

[DVMDream]

Why? And is Zenge considered consensus town?

I don't feel like Zenge is considered consensus town, so I also found that statement kind of odd.

 

[SARdoghandler]

You, obviously.

Why? And is Zenge considered consensus town?

I disagree again.

Which part do you disagree with and why?

I think I'll break roster order and do genny iso next

 

[WildZoo]

PSV is allowed to suspect me more often than others given the end of Stardeww2 (she and I were in the endgame together). In this case I wonder if it's being fudged since the rationale was never great, but it doesn't have to be so.

Yes I have this in my head as the reason for her general paranoia about you. But I think it's come up enough in games prior to this point that it's hard to evaluate its sincerity.

 

[Zenge142]

I don't feel like Zenge is considered consensus town, so I also found that statement kind of odd.

I believe you are mistaking

 

[potentialsheltervet]

One thing I found interesting is that the Zenge portion of the Zenge/Clem argument was surprisingly tame on iso, not exactly fitting the narrative I think a few people espoused of it being a strong attack on each other from both sides. So I think my overall impression of that is anyone who tried to push a w/v Zenge/Clem universe may be getting extra sketch points for pushing what I think was v/v shoving. Will pay more attention to this again when I get to the Clem portion (unfortunately on the bottom of my list, especially if he is yoten today)

Yes. This is why I was so surprised by both Jay and Fruit thinking they couldn't be on the same side. It wasn't even a poke war.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why? And is Zenge considered consensus town?

Zenge is semi-consensus town at least. Not a lot of suspicion has been sent his way, and I don't think he's been thrown in most null buckets. Lower-end of the consensus.

As for "why?", pure vibe. I think he's probably fine, but he hasn't exactly made posts that scream mafia cannot do this.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Yes. This is why I was so surprised by both Jay and Fruit thinking they couldn't be on the same side. It wasn't even a poke war.

genny made an offhand comment about it too, but hers was more based on the Clem side so I need to iso Clem's portion before I decide if it's negative points for her too

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Clem (5) - fruit, Clem, DVMD, Dubz, April
rae () -

5/13
yeet close in ~53 minutes
Missing: Zenge, PSV, indy, samac, genny, SAR, rae, JJJ

 

[SARdoghandler]

To be clear with voting, I'm staying off to avoid hammer. I am okay with a Clem vote in that of the three people up - they are all bad choices imo but I agree that with Clem asking for death it makes the most sense. But I am sad

(@WildZoo)

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Which part do you disagree with and why?

I think I'll break roster order and do genny iso next

That genny engages more with her packmates. I feel like genny is a wolf who switches things up rather than sticking to one formula, and she also hasn't given a ton of reads this game to begin with so it would've been strange if she'd selectively drummed things up with Stagg.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Clem and Zenge did not have some lengthy exchange. They just called each other wolves. Clem's side was more assertive than Zenge's.

It was atypically assertive from Clem, and it was against consensus from both. They're both players with strong guts who are less likely than [random player] to voice confident suspicions without having a good reason, even if they don't share the reason clearly.

So I thought there was a higher chance than [random X vs. Y argument] that one of them was correct and seeing something I was not seeing.

Anyway, I abandoned the theory well before Day 1 ended and don't really care about it anymore.

 

[WildZoo]

I think Zenge's treatment of Stagg this d1 looks similar to if slightly better than his treatment of PSV in d1 last game.

His tone is less completely in v!Zenge meta than it was during that game but I think still more in that range than w!Zenge range.

 

[indysadventures]

Just came home to a poop on the couch courtesy of my dog, Louis. Thanks, bud.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Just came home to a poop on the couch courtesy of my dog, Louis. Thanks, bud.

Tag yourselves. I'm Louis.

 

[WildZoo]

Why is Zenge hmm

Contemplating his own affiliation?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Clem and Zenge did not have some lengthy exchange. They just called each other wolves. Clem's side was more assertive than Zenge's.

It was atypically assertive from Clem, and it was against consensus from both. They're both players with strong guts who are less likely than [random player] to voice confident suspicions without having a good reason, even if they don't share the reason clearly.

So I thought there was a higher chance than [random X vs. Y argument] that one of them was correct and seeing something I was not seeing.

Anyway, I abandoned the theory well before Day 1 ended and don't really care about it anymore.

Why so defensive?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Also @Zenge142 did you ever explain your April sus?

 

[DVMDream]

Just came home to a poop on the couch courtesy of my dog, Louis. Thanks, bud.

I had a poop on my floor earlier, courtesy of the cat. Totally feel you.

 

[WildZoo]

If I had to pick 3 names it would probably be Fruitsalad, PSV, genny. But open to other ideas

Did you change your mind about April?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why so defensive?

That's not a defense. It's an explanation. People were talking about it and seemed to need one.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Clem J are you around for parting thoughts?

 

[Zenge142]

Did you change your mind about April?

No. I posted what I said earlier. I’ll defer to town and give April a chance. I’m just personally waiting to feel okay until I see more

 

[SARdoghandler]

Okay, I think I see what others are seeing with genny. There isn't really a whole lot to pick out when I iso her. It's been a long time but I used to be pretty good at picking out The Genny Way and the only post that gave me the vaguest sense of that is

sorry, best i've got is italics genny

I also quickly went and compared her opening handful of posts in this game to the previous 3 since it was a wolf outing, 3p outing, and village outing (what a nice spread, though low sample size) as I felt like her entrance into this thread felt a bit more serious/mechanical than I normally expect from a village genny. I think tonally and content (lulz vs game content/solving) her entrance this game was actually most similar to the practice round where she was wolf

 

[DVMDream]

What I am hoping for at the end of yeet.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

If I had to guess, he's going to let it rand.

 

[Zenge142]

Also @Zenge142 did you ever explain your April sus?

Yes. EOD 1 voting and Stagg’s vote looking like potential distancing

 

[potentialsheltervet]

For me, EOD 1 and Stagg’s vote for April, when it was clear he was going over feels like it could be distancing. I need to see more generally before I’m willing to move her out of the POE.

But I recognize that’s not thread consensus and I’m willing to give her a chance. So I’m not going to push there, but I personally need more to clear her.

I see.

 

[SARdoghandler]

If I had to guess, he's going to let it rand.

Live footage of Clem

 

[indysadventures]

im at least medium substance thank you very much

 

[SARdoghandler]

Hey @WildZoo where's my soul read??