This came out of nowhere. I understand you're post restricted but you've been reacting with gifs/images to other people's posts. Any chance you can pull some shorty posts you don't like or someone else's reasoning that you agree with?
I'm guessing you didn't go back and read deadchat because I was screaming to yeet AM the entire time lol. I just couldn't do anything about it cause I was a lil bit dead, so I'm salty
I did, but I barely remember most of went down in the bioshock game, let alone the ggoats game dead chat
Whoops ninja’d by April. But I agree with her questioning
It's very salty caution. I don't have a strong read on her either way yet, but a huge part of the problem in goats was everyone blindly accepting AM as village, thinking that they could read her well, so I'd rather err on the side of caution and be wrong than be a part of that. I'll take note that you clearly want me to read her as village though.
The salt needs to be released or applied elsewhere then. Village is playing better and more active than they ever have this year. No more coddling the wolves.
I like it when people are posting reads, because the wolves sometimes mess up and forget a fellow wolf, come up with lists that make no sense, etc.
I don't care which way you read her, I just want to know why you're reading her one way or the other. Right now I'm taking note of your extra caution not really lining up with your past reading experiences because it's giving me some bad tingles on you. Like you know she's village but you don't want to admit it in case you get the opportunity to jump on her yeet.
Everyone knows that. It’s a portkey.
Sure, it is. If you don't want to post reads, fine. That's not a me problem. But others have shown they can and will do reads so I am going to hold them to it and encourage others to do the same.
.... what now?
Don't forget to bold your votes.
Yeet votes must be bolded or placed in copious ########octothorps######### to be counted
Just making sure everyone was paying attention. Also a way to see who is monitoring but not commenting. Yeah. That is why I did it. Worked like a charm!
I do hope you have more to say to this once you can, because I do think he’s raised some good points. They’ve been echoed a lot, but I think he was one of the early ones to say them.
You don’t know what portkeys are? Harry Potter/England reference
I also have some philosophical differences with AM's playstyle, so even when she's village I don't tend to feel great about her. I don't really see how me not giving you a village read on AM is out of sync with my "past reading experiences" - If anything, I'm pretty consistently hedgey and that regularly gets me in trouble, I would be more surprised if I took a great stance on her this early
Ooooooh it’s been a real long time since I’ve read Harry Potter.
I am very pro-mechanics. I was saying in the bioshock dead chat that analyzing the write ups is important, because the mods leave clues for us in them. We might be totally off base with speculating, but it’s better to catch a clue (like what shorty did with the cigs last game) than to completely ignore write ups and night actions and not talk about them on thread. Heck, it was mechanics talk last game that got me outed as a wolf and yeeted. I think mechanics talk is pro-village, especially since it clearly helps us catch wolves. We just need to avoid going into Lawpy tinfoil territory and forgetting that VCA and interactions are important too
Why are you voting MsP, teapot thing aside?
Overall I agree mechanics talk is fine but I’ve come to appreciate being careful with it. I don’t want to hand the wolves knowledge that gets a PR yeeted.
Which points?
This feels unnecessarily abrasive. Also HEDGEtastic AF. You'd need to hire a whole team of gardeners to manage these hedges. "I could be wrong but I might not be. But also even if I'm wrong I'm still right!" That's what he's saying here. That's literally the argument being made.
Which is pretty hypocritical coming from someone who up to that point in the thread hasn't provided any takes at all. No wolf hunting. No reads.
There's that hedging again. Seriously get a gardener.
Charming.
I want to highlight this, because what's really interesting about it is that I was talking about Cray's strange, overly supportive actions towards DocE, and push to get him elected. But of course it's not Cray who's answering this, it's DocE himself, putting words in her mouth. He might be right, but regardless, it seems really off that they're so deep in lock step, and he's literally explaining her behavior here to everyone else. Also keep in mind that up to this point, Cray hadn't posted at all on the thread yet, so no one but Cray would have know she was post restricted. Unless that was shared in a group PM, like wolf chat. So it's especially interesting that he's going out of his way to answer for Cray and speak for Cray when no one else knew she'd been post restricted yet.
I mean, you're saying that she's playing "the worst" doesn't make it so. And there you go hedging again. Try committing for a change. Also, I haven't seen spectacular play from anyone, who's posted yourself included. I haven't seen some people's play at all, and some very little.
I'm putting this here for later, and want to make sure it is documented in case it gets edited after the fact.
Instead of doing wolf hunting and looking for other leads, he's just arguing here in what feels like a very unproductive way. Especially off to not continue to be wolf hunting when just below he posts this:
So once again an unhealthy amount of hedging and once again the argument being made here is "I could be wrong but I might not be. But also even if I'm wrong I'm still right!"
Okay, but you didn't. I've just gone through your posts up to this point and other than bickering with shorty, where's the wolf hunting?
That's fair. Again, I don't care if you wolf read her, I just want to see why other than salt from a previous game.
As much as I love the thematic styling, the vote itself is scaring me. Feels retaliatory while trying not to look retailiatory (vote shorty who pushed against sunny’s defense of cray, instead of voting samac who forst voted cray).
You and Cray both follow that logic, and I agree that wolves 100% will kill people who are being universally “village-read.” I know that the wolves last game definitely tried to kill some people who were village-read, but we also tried to kill some people just for fun to create confusion, and we killed the outed PRs asap. So you never really know why exactly someone was killed, and it’s all very WIFOM in my opinion.
Even when hampered by a restriction I'd expect better from you than just sheeping DocE
The goal is to have more village reads than they can realistically kill off before the game ends. Creating a village bloc and all that.
Could be fishing. I also love trying to solve mechanics, but I wasn’t even thinking about them recently since there’s so many interactions and stuff going on roght now to read. Interactions and posts that are boring for wolves to analyze since they already (mostly) know affiliations, while mechanics-solving is always interesting to wolves.
Tell that to the last three village wins.
But people who are playing strongly pro-village (last game it was like Dina, Shorty, Lawpy, etc), are going to be night targets no matter what. The wolves are going to target the people who are doing significant wolf-hunting and contributing to game-solving, even if they aren’t spelled out on a nice “village” list by everyone playing. I’m not totally sure that listing someone as a village read on a reads list really paints that large of a target on their back.
really? i didn't think it felt village at all.
I feel like it's not only a realistic goal, it's how village wins most games? No?
it's also played a role in village losses though. people were literally claiming you as part of the "village bloc" in goats when that was... obviously not the case. I'm sort of in the middle on the utility of sharing village reads, but I think there are multiple ways to village well
