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I lost my place in the thread, hold pls 

I mentioned 99% certain with the info I have from you. I'm not a wolf, so Nate isn't either. That's your hard vouch.She said soft vouch, not hard vouch. I listed two other games in immediate recent history when she soft vouched for the game winning scum. I see multiple affiliation combinations. If you don't want to vote him, that's fine. But I need a REAL vouch.![]()
Could you point to where you talked about that post? I tried ISOing you but you might be able to find it easier since you'll have a better idea of when you posted it.I highlighted one post that rubbed me the wrong way in particular, but I feel like they're coasting and not offering many original thoughts.
She said soft vouch, not hard vouch. I listed two other games in immediate recent history when she soft vouched for the game winning scum. I see multiple affiliation combinations. If you don't want to vote him, that's fine. But I need a REAL vouch.![]()
Wait, huh??I have been thinking much about this item issue,
a question is asked the mods and AM gets the answer.
it is a good question,
AM withholds the information,
when someone finally brings up the question digging it out from yesterday, and I follow up, “suddenly” AM remebers she had the info,
then gives us the answer that keeps us not suspicious of other adfiliatites which if there are wolves among the villagers would be good to hide.
I find AM suddenly remembering that info awfully wolfy. And who forgets mod information given to you unless you have a ton of information coming at you, like in the wolf chat, I think they decided to ignore it until it was brought up.
I‘m not sure I want to mess up this lynch because I think we have some good wolf candidates, but I want to lynch AM tomorrow.
Yep i agree with thisIn a world where there are no conversions?
In a world where there are and PSV has a habit of bringing up TMI-type things as a wolf because it's what she would do as a villager?
I don't think her bringing up conversion is AI
Honestly I think it's perfectly in character for AM to ignore a completely out of context vague message from the mods. What reason would she have had to bring it up before April mentioned that the answer goes to someone else?I have been thinking much about this item issue,
a question is asked the mods and AM gets the answer.
it is a good question,
AM withholds the information,
when someone finally brings up the question digging it out from yesterday, and I follow up, “suddenly” AM remebers she had the info,
then gives us the answer that keeps us not suspicious of other adfiliatites which if there are wolves among the villagers would be good to hide.
I find AM suddenly remembering that info awfully wolfy. And who forgets mod information given to you unless you have a ton of information coming at you, like in the wolf chat, I think they decided to ignore it until it was brought up.
I‘m not sure I want to mess up this lynch because I think we have some good wolf candidates, but I want to lynch AM tomorrow.
To be fair, this definitely would not be the first time that AM hasn't understood something she received in PMs, so it could be genuineI have been thinking much about this item issue,
a question is asked the mods and AM gets the answer.
it is a good question,
AM withholds the information,
when someone finally brings up the question digging it out from yesterday, and I follow up, “suddenly” AM remebers she had the info,
then gives us the answer that keeps us not suspicious of other adfiliatites which if there are wolves among the villagers would be good to hide.
I find AM suddenly remembering that info awfully wolfy. And who forgets mod information given to you unless you have a ton of information coming at you, like in the wolf chat, I think they decided to ignore it until it was brought up.
I‘m not sure I want to mess up this lynch because I think we have some good wolf candidates, but I want to lynch AM tomorrow.
Why is Aprils mad 🙁Actually
Unyeet Santy
Yeet psv
MMaybe something exciting will happen
Here we areI hate this post. It feels super safe to just say I'm sus.
Also the fluff 3p chatter is making me 😡
Because no one should ignore information like that. You might not believe it but it is almost 100% a village duty to bring it up for discussion. “Got this weird message not sure we should believe it”Honestly I think it's perfectly in character for AM to ignore a completely out of context vague message from the mods. What reason would she have had to bring it up before April mentioned that the answer goes to someone else?
Two extremely high posters were subbed in lol
No three way ties plsWhy is Aprils mad 🙁
My thought about it was that she's the one getting the answers always, right? As the pre selected player, as long as this item is going around. So outing that on thread would put her in danger.I have been thinking much about this item issue,
a question is asked the mods and AM gets the answer.
it is a good question,
AM withholds the information,
when someone finally brings up the question digging it out from yesterday, and I follow up, “suddenly” AM remebers she had the info,
then gives us the answer that keeps us not suspicious of other adfiliatites which if there are wolves among the villagers would be good to hide.
I find AM suddenly remembering that info awfully wolfy. And who forgets mod information given to you unless you have a ton of information coming at you, like in the wolf chat, I think they decided to ignore it until it was brought up.
I‘m not sure I want to mess up this lynch because I think we have some good wolf candidates, but I want to lynch AM tomorrow.
I don’t understand AM/veggiesOkay , so....
April/PSV
AM/Veggie
Who is howling more![]()
Oops I meant to respond to this.Yes. If fluff is a wolf, Zenge is not. If Zenge is a wolf, I seriously doubt fluff is.
If you are basing that vouch on affiliation that can’t be a hard vouch, just saying.I mentioned 99% certain with the info I have from you. I'm not a wolf, so Nate isn't either. That's your hard vouch.
Not to mention that, she could just stay silent about it even after it was brought up.Honestly I think it's perfectly in character for AM to ignore a completely out of context vague message from the mods. What reason would she have had to bring it up before April mentioned that the answer goes to someone else?
I don't understand the connection still. All that question affirmed is that there's one pack. 🤔I mentioned 99% certain with the info I have from you. I'm not a wolf, so Nate isn't either. That's your hard vouch.
If fluff flipped village, definitely much more sus of Zenge.Oops I meant to respond to this.
How would you feel about Zenge if fluff flipped village? and vice versa?
My impression was not that there was any context given to it though. Like it didn't seem like it was an outright "Wolves are one faction" statement.Because no one should ignore information like that. You might not believe it but it is almost 100% a village duty to bring it up for discussion. “Got this weird message not sure we should believe it”
Hard soft whatever. I really don't think Nate's a wolf.If you are basing that vouch on affiliation that can’t be a hard vouch, just saying.
Me neither. Veggie seems ”mostly harmless”I don’t understand AM/veggies
AM earlier mentioned she’s village reading veggies because she liked veggies defenseFwiw , this is me compeltely side-eyeing the AM read on Veggie with lack of reeval at this point still + Having fluff vouching on Nate and not showing wavering.
Plus AM and Veggie are just very aligned in views I feel like 🤔
And April/PSV are both PoE that feel like both dancing around each other and trying to make dirt seeds grow around. But maybe this part is more confbiased
I'm reading your posts, I just haven't been online the same time as youAlso, I always feel guilty about tunneling people so: sorry PSV. But also kinda weird you haven't interacted with me once despite throwing some heavy sus 😅
(Well. We're still trying to figure out if the answer she got means what we hope it means)I mentioned 99% certain with the info I have from you. I'm not a wolf, so Nate isn't either. That's your hard vouch.
*Insert oh my gif*Hard soft whatever.
Fluff claimed to know who their allies wereIf you are basing that vouch on affiliation that can’t be a hard vouch, just saying.
Idk. It would piss me off if she sat on a mod message like that as a villager. What is the point of having information if you don’t share it? Can’t let your biases ruin the balance of game for villagers.My impression was not that there was any context given to it though. Like it didn't seem like it was an outright "Wolves are one faction" statement.
I mean, when SAR vouched for fluff she said it had 0% to do with affiliation so I'm deeply skeptical that fluff somehow got more info from a line that is barely more useful than what's in the OP.I dont care aout recent history lol.
You know fluff has a list with allies. If she isnt scum, what reason would she have to soft for Nate?
Like, its a super basic thought I feel like? Or Im the crazy one been super weirded out by this not being the basic thought? If you sus Nate, then sus fluff too and she should be the vote, not Nate in any case /shrug
Look who are they votingAM earlier mentioned she’s village reading veggies because she liked veggies defense
But… still not really seeing how they’re aligned in views
I am sus of veggie so this is intriguing.
Why?
Could you kindly direct me to what post you highlighted? Sorry i missed itI highlighted one post that rubbed me the wrong way in particular, but I feel like they're coasting and not offering many original thoughts.
The connection is that I know my allies. I didn't know if, amongst them, there were some that are wolves, so I was being careful. But if the wolves are a faction of their own, and not dispersed into the three houses or other factions in this game, I'm pretty confident my allies are the same as me.I don't understand the connection still. All that question affirmed is that there's one pack. 🤔
I don't know about the wolf one, but fluff was ready to die for me recently because she thought I was village.this is probably irrelevant, but since AM brought it, what exactly was the soft vouch that was on a wolf made by fluff in a previous game.
tbf I have a soft vouch, but I've also had no reason to out that info yet, so its a bit harder for me to see my voting fluff or Nate...
I disagree with this for the same reason I disagree with revealing any information about role PMs, you don't know if it can be used against you. Context matters to PMs and if it was unexpected you may want to wait to find out that context.Because no one should ignore information like that. You might not believe it but it is almost 100% a village duty to bring it up for discussion. “Got this weird message not sure we should believe it”
But we haven’t determined if that is good enough to know they are village. I believe she knows her Allies for sure. I don’t believe we can use that to determine villagerness. I am assuming that it is true, but that is a very soft vouch.Fluff claimed to know who their allies were
*Dies*
Honestly I think it's perfectly in character for AM to ignore a completely out of context vague message from the mods. What reason would she have had to bring it up before April mentioned that the answer goes to someone else?
I posted it again further up on this page.Could you kindly direct me to what post you highlighted? Sorry i missed it![]()
Oh. I guess I just like...don't have a problem with that post lolHere we are
I never vouched for anyone. I was just defending Zuri in the noob game and he ended up being a wolf. And defended PSV in a previous game and she ended up being a cult leader. But I didn't vouch for them with the certainty I have now.this is probably irrelevant, but since AM brought it, what exactly was the soft vouch that was on a wolf made by fluff in a previous game.
tbf I have a soft vouch, but I've also had no reason to out that info yet, so its a bit harder for me to see my voting fluff or Nate...
thanks for the response, beign wrong and vouching certainly isn't the same thingI never vouched for anyone. I was just defending Zuri in the noob game and he ended up being a wolf. And defended PSV in a previous game and she ended up being a cult leader. But I didn't vouch for them with the certainty I have now.
I mean, there's a bit of OMGUS probably since I am the person in question lolOh. I guess I just like...don't have a problem with that post lol
Yes we can. Kindof.But we haven’t determined if that is good enough to know they are village. I believe she knows her Allies for sure. I don’t believe we can use that to determine villagerness. I am assuming that it is true, but that is a very soft vouch.
I’d rather not talk about it more than I have to.
Fluff has stated to know who are their allies.
If she is vouching for someone, eithr they are both wolves, or both from the same faction.
Simple as is. Why are people so dense smh
I have been thinking much about this item issue,
a question is asked the mods and AM gets the answer.
it is a good question,
AM withholds the information,
when someone finally brings up the question digging it out from yesterday, and I follow up, “suddenly” AM remebers she had the info,
then gives us the answer that keeps us not suspicious of other adfiliatites which if there are wolves among the villagers would be good to hide.
I find AM suddenly remembering that info awfully wolfy. And who forgets mod information given to you unless you have a ton of information coming at you, like in the wolf chat, I think they decided to ignore it until it was brought up.
I‘m not sure I want to mess up this lynch because I think we have some good wolf candidates, but I want to lynch AM tomorrow.
that is bad village play, village wins with more sharing of information, cause wolves have a info imbalance. You find a way to get it out there And get it in play. It is the fun of roles. If I were a seer (which sadly I am not) I don’t go blurting out I am a seer, but I find ways to use the information I am receiving without being obvious,I disagree with this for the same reason I disagree with revealing any information about role PMs, you don't know if it can be used against you. Context matters to PMs and if it was unexpected you may want to wait to find out that context.
There's zero reason to re-eval veggie when she's done nothing I don't like and it's literally D2.
Outside of me being wary of fluff in general, I'm not interested in a vouch she can't explain to me when I watched her vouch for zuri last game and PSV the game before it.
I also don't trust PSV either.
"A vouch she cant even explain "
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ARE WE READING THE SAME GAME ANIMAL MIDWIFE!?!?
Yes.![]()
Well slight eyebrows raised on AM, because i understood what Santy and fluffy are getting at.Fluff has stated to know who are their allies.
If she is vouching for someone, eithr they are both wolves, or both from the same faction.
Simple as is. Why are people so dense smh
Yeah it seemed fine to me too.Oh. I guess I just like...don't have a problem with that post lol