Okay, I only have an hour or so before I have to go. Sun isn't so intense and curtains are covering me up so I'm good for now. Let's do this.
(OST needed to hear while reading this. It's a bot and I think it goes kinda well with my character here. So listen is obliged. Anyone who doesn't listen it is bad at mafia and will be yeeted)
Santygrass : I am village. My intellect is totally above the rest of the villagers, and I have a far superior knowledge thanks to all my research, clearly.
Clem J : Claimed to be same aff as Zenge. Flipped a read fairly quickly when Wisp/SoV claimed their aff. Possibly Golden Deer. The way they bonked them also felt villagey, leaning on Golden Deer maybe but not sure.
Mothy : The boobclear isn't enough. I think their tone is natural and the replies to the confusion about Ashen Wolves despite knowing TWSID felt... Good? But could be somewhat couched or maybe a good tone to get away with a slip there. Definetily has equity with the flipped mafia we have already too, and in terms of solving, I'd say is... Severely lacking. Another thing I noticed is that in the noob game, Mothy was a chaotic village, speaking in german just because, doing bomb menaces and just trying crazy stuff. Here they are super toned down if it makes sense? Maybe some other noobs can talk about how they feel regarding this point.
mayo is vouching for them / having a clear there, but they didnt go into detail as of why.
Alleycat : I think... April was the one who noticed how they threw early miranda sus, so I think thats a good point in favor of their case, because a player who is clearly behind isnt going to try to bus a packmate imo. The counterpoint I need to fact check if it was after the night in where Wonda seered Miranda. As in: Maybe as a wolf they knew Miranda was seered and possibly done for, so it could be them setting up. Otherwise, they been kinda UTR and cant give a enough strong opinion to lean on one side. If PoE keeps reducing then they would be a yeet candidate? We'll se when we get there
genny : Still thinking they are likely a wolf LMAO. Content-wise maybe they have one or two post that sound slightly-villagey? But even ignoring the whole not-yeeted thingy and ****ery, I think by comparison / gamestate, with all these vouches and just a lot of people being more villagey, thing just make more sense if we are in a genny wolf world. Idk if there are 3 Hopes Characters here but I could see one being an alpha wolf , and even if not, something that the didnt claim giving them a yeet avoidsnce is what I think.
I saw the point of people giving genny somewhat of a trust for the miranda vote D1, but like.... They didn't get yeeted, that wasn't a bus, and could be something planned to do a 'safe distancing' , so sorry but I don't buy that argument at all.
Viscernable : THE REZZED, INTASUS. Putting that aside, people noticing a tone shift between Rezzed Vis and Prime Vis is somewhat worrying, and honestly I don't know if I'm confbiasing but I could see their content more focused on *pushing* rather than *solving* . I don't know if that makes sense, but maybe this is me struggling to find vibe with Vis trains of thought and solving right now. Also, unless someone else claims it, they were ressed by... A wolf. That is from the faction that kills people and replace them to infiltrate places. So yeah...
SARdoghandler : Very... Pure? Style of posting that just was kinda transparent and was really easy to see them as the church affiliation with fluff. It's weird because at the start I kinda squinted at their content, but without noticing I absorbed the consensus read of SAR being villagey and I can't unsee it. Also SAR I am still waiting for your credit card number pls my daughter has to eat and go to bed I'm poor.
Zenge : Honestly? Mixed feelings because I don't kno what is on Zenge's mind, or how he got so 'confidently' to make some statements.... That didn't make sense. My problem with Zenge is that... Even if at the moment it made my stomach revolve just the obliviousness to church transparency overall, I think their push isn't wolfy.
Like, specially their 'fluff is outed' type of post, the timing of it was just super poor and totally unaware of threadstate (miranda was dying always there, so the push was doomed and didnt gain any momentum), and the frustration they showed at some points seems really genuine. My tinfoil is that maybe villegy while trying to achieve something from their wincon tbh. Also Clem claimed same affiliation as Zenge, so thats another point in their favor ig .
Animal Midwife : I can vibe with SAR motives as to why AM obliviousness / stubborness regarding some points are just more likely to be wolfy frustration at a game which is being solved with flavor (specially with the flavor seering from miranda happening on that day) . And all their pushes had been way off the mark, so she is having sort of the same Zenge's obliviousness but without much reason to townread her? Counterpoints here, is that some dead village that know AM better than me villaread her, and they did say that they could be mech-clear ? If the mech clear AM talks about ends up being some kind of logic being twisted or a oblivious take on flavor I would insta yeet them tho.
SOV : Villagey pushes, and their rationale / tome adds up. They are also a Faction leader, and if they know all their allies and their allies know its him, I think that sort of position is never a wolf. Because if that is the trend, a faction whose leader is a fake, would put them in a huge disadvantage regarding the other factions. So mech-clear in my head.
The counterpoint is that claiming faction leader on thread even if it mech-clears you it's probably super dumb because if there i factional cross-fire you put the target on yourself wowee. I have more mech takes regarding this but slightly worried that they give away my affiliation perspective too much so I'll hold them close to my chest and keep mulling them over.
Mayo : Kinda already said it, but the principal reason I was vibing with mayo its because their catchup entrance was good to me, mostly because they were bringing up points i had in my mind on April.
With hindsight and seeing April with better eyes rn, I think those points where kinda... Easy stuff to catch up on and for them to 'look bad'. I also have to kinda just reread their content because I felt that besides that I mostly forgotten the most part, and I tend to lowkey wolfread someone when that happens to m with their contesnt because its an indicator of their stuff lacking ~impact~ or ~soul~ if you want to put words into it maybe. Currently is my priority to reread because with all the vouchs and statements being said, I think logically what makes the most sense is for Mayo to be lying in something. Aka: They are townreading AM, Vouching for mothy, and also the item (which worked differently from the one who April had) clears from possible converts and is something that takes heat off of Vis and Nate? Idk I doubt for Mothy/AM/Vis/Nate to be all village, and with mayo statements rn , if one is them is a wolf, mayo has equity with them .
Fluff : Faction leader, see above in what I said about SOV and apply here in regards to that topic. But even a better look because she was just playing with an open agenda super easy to read the whole game. Detrimental to their faction I would say, but something that helps us to clear them and look into other people /shrug
Lawpy : #Stillthinkingtheyarethethirdchurchmember . Despite that, I think the way miranda/poppy treated zuri is somewhat clearing, and nothing from Lawpy pinged me much that I remember? I think individually I have maybe the laziest read here, but I'm okay maintaning it at the moment and revise later.
April: *Puts Tinfoil hat* THE HORSE IS THE KILLER, THAT WOULD TOTALLY BE SPORTY NARRATIVE PLEASE FELLOW VILLAGERS OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!
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Okay, I don't really believe it even though I would love it for that to be the case LOL. I think the past day April tone and solving was super villagey, and the pushed / brought attention to both flipped wolves early, so I think they have a really good look imo, and they still feel like poking and trying to solve. And like someone said, a wolf in this state is more expected to look for 'survival' rather than 'solving' so to speak. I vibe pretty much with their thread-feeling of maybe having too much villagey reads and the PoE shrinking .
Chica: I already explained it, REALLY doubt their poppy push comes from a fellow wolf. Specially considering Poppy was also a noob, the whole strenght so to speak of the push and timing is really different from the noob game. The tone and takes they are having I pretty much vibe with also, so they are pretty good in my book.
Nate : ALSO RESSED INSTASUS.
That said, I think Im inclined to believ Nate a little bit more for the factionless claim, and because fluff claimed it and kinda makes sense with what I have on my head on what could've happened.
Also, as a converted wolf I feel like it would be easier to have claimed to 'maintain' alignment?
@justafluff were you noticed of Nate losing their church affiliation?
Other than that, Nate feels kinda the same? Well, not the same tbh. Maybe more passive / or null, which kinda adds up to the factionless claim.
COUNTERPOINT , I think a lot of people easily threw Sus on Vis because of being ressed, but Nate got mostly away with it, or heat/push-free , and I dont know how much of a good thing is that analyzing in hindsight .
Wiisp: Another one I just have trouble picking through their brain or how was their game perspective just for the weirness of some of their takes. (Aka the change of read on Nate, the part about complaining to wonda of claiming unnecesary stuff when it was something he already did and then continued doing with factional stuff, and the flame empire kindof slip). Specially looking at the claiming part, I think its mostly wolfy indicative? Because it lacks the village feel of preservation, and he is claiming something that he know it will look villagery, if it makes sense. But just as I have a lot of stuff to maybe pick from Wisp to wolfread him, I also think they have been kinda, super open with their process and I think it weirdly could add up? Not somewhere I would go today imo.
TL;DR : Tiers somewhat ordered.
Cleared
Santygrass
Justafluff
Startingovervet
Village
Chica
SAR
April
Villagey-feels
Lawpy
Clem J
Zenge
Upper PoE
Animal Midwife
Alley
Wiisp
Bottom PoE
Mayo
Nate
Moth
Genny
Viscernable
