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no one asked for her help except to stop clogging up the thread to air her personal grievances in the last few minutes before yeet.
I'm saying those are my current suspects. And barks can be a wolf without WZ (who I haven't cleared) being one.
as above
Yes I do it in every single game, as do many of the others from out WW generation.
It's the "saving" part I'm trying to understand.
Well, I'm not stopping you from catching up. I just thought there was more than pushing alissa and talking to Cray since you said that wasn't the center of your argument.
Do you think sunshine and April would be together?
I'm one vote. It's not like I said "everyone can only vote alissa today or must die".
Replace sunshine with April and that's where I'm at.
but wHiCh GaMeS??
Is there a reason the Doggo slot is still completely empty?
yeah because I am not getting enough from Doggo to say anything.
Hold up we're agreeing again
Nothing immediately comes to mind why they couldn't be. Do you have a reason why not?
Am i supposed to know what this means
People are getting hung up on the exact point I'm trying to make by even bringing that up. Did you not notice any other moves I've done?
Alright, I just have thought you noticed something going into D3.
Things like D1 and salt votes I think they’d probably be in wolf chat early on. I’d imagine if a noob was wolf in their first game there would be lots of early coaching and some of that might have accidentally bled out.
Thanks for clarifying. I didn’t know that was a thing y’all did now.
well I haven't. I could do an ISO, but there are more pressing suspects. Maybe I'll take a gander anyway.
sunshine was quick to vote April D1 and didn't seem to be concerned when April became a major wagon. She stayed on there until the Pippy wagon but, even then, seemed okay with April as a counter.
Out of curiosity, I pulled all of the interactions between AM and MKG.
doggo update: has been moved to ???/sus right above the wolf leans
The problem I'm having is that mayo voted April for the first time when he and her [and Pippy] were tied for the lead. It was around 6 pm which pings me only because that's the timeframe when safe bussing really took off in the last game. If April randed wolf three times, I can see not wanting to get caught off easy cred from the multitude of people that were already pushing her. He got off ~15 minutes to close to swap to Pippy though it was 6-4 without her later selfvote.
I appreciate you putting that all in one post. there’s nothing super exciting there. Quick questioning of mkg and then quickly backing away from each other and no further interaction. It’s rather tame and bland unlike you and sunshine
Because she asked for them after saying I was lying.
The content isn't, the timing is, as I've said multiple times now. There were also a couple other small things in my original post - it wasn't all just about last night, it's a few things cumulatively that have pinged me.
I've seen this come up a few times and it's kind of annoying me. I bussed ONE TIME in ONE GAME and now everyone sees my votes and goes "Hmm, is she bussing? She's a busser!" I explained in the last game's dead chat why I did it out of complete desperation because there were extremely unique circumstances where THREE of the four wolves were on the board D1 and the wolves were facing a landslide loss if we didn't do something drastic. I didn't want to do it. I don't plan on doing it in future games. If you want to wolf read me for other reasons, fine, so be it, but maybe don't use the bussing card so heavily because it's really a weak argument standing alone. (I'm not particularly annoyed with you, Dina, it's just been mentioned by a number of people now and the quote from AM below is what really fueled my irritation and I tried to let it go initially.)
Where in those actions did you see them throwing shade at each other?
A little shade. Things like “don’t get that vote”
Mkg has shown proof sues read lots of past games by her referencing specific players and events from them.
I mean, I don’t really see any shade there. Calling “I don’t know your play style” shade seems like a pretty big stretch.
So you do or don't see them as both wolves?
She made a reference to the previous game with the salt yeets on April, I hadn’t read the last game and picked up on that from the sign ups/early thread stuff.
You could ask questions to gather more info...
Asking others for reads helps me read them. I try to put reads out when others ask for them or something has drastically changed. I was not trying to give Pip credibility, I was saying that she could potentially be telling the truth, which she partially was. I did not dismiss conversion talk, it is not something that should be taken down a rabbit hole when no original wolves have flipped, it tends to lead into endless circles. Also what did I not explain????
This gives me village!Dubz village tingles because I know how careful wolf!Dubz is about not accidentally sharing too-close-to-the-truth insider info. The logic checks out better than I've seen for any other TE death argument and I feel like if she was a wolf, she wouldn't have posted this unless she was trying to spin it in a way that directed votes toward a misyeet, which it feels like she's not, she's just doing it for the sake of village insight.
So... You guys were on the thread at the same time so it makes you v/v? Am I misreading?
To be fair classic village AM gave me even stronger wolf vibes in apocolypse for being so aggro and I tunneled her and was wrong. She just skeeves me out.She just reads as different from that game. She’s just on my radar at this point.
It was all that barks/early salt vote/ongoing friend joke yeet vote stuff that kept getting talked about on thread, and you yourself said you weren’t explaining because other people were commenting and you were trying not to be echoey and improve your play. That was directly from you.
Sorry about the misunderstanding there with sunshine. I wasn’t saying we’re both v/v because we were on at the same time, I was saying I changed my mind at that point in time because she was actively catching up like I was and seemed to be trying to give reads.
I'm still not sure what those other reason are then because I'm just going off of what was in your post.
Don't.
I thought that did get explained later when I directly asked her.
It did get explained, by her literally saying she deliberately didn’t explain.
Yes so am I.
I’m sorry, but earlier you sounded like you were pretty dead certain that either me or sunshine is a wolf, here:
I've been relatively quiet since the first day because I've been struggling to keep up with the thread.
Once AM asked what I was going to say, I said. There was no literal reason for me to repeat what was said by a few people already.
Just be careful about giving people such strong village credit, especially when you already have a slight wolf lean on them, for catching up and giving reads because it's very easily emulatable as a wolf.
Omg to everyone.
I think there's at least one wolf between the three of them. The thing with sunny was that I really did not like how April and WZ jumped on her yesterday with shorty, which is why I didn't want to vote her yesterday and went with Alissa. I actually put WZ as leaning wolf after it, but I've put her as more neutral after looking at her reads today.
I've not caught up to point 3 yet. I did note that she didn't just move you off of her wolf leans, but actually moved you into village leans. And so now she's moved you back to wolf? All that swinging with the tide is making me all tingly in a not good way.
Okay but to remind you and everyone else ignoring it, Alissa was a VILLAGER
No, I’m not giving different reasons.
Appreciate the advice. I wasn’t trying to give the impression that I was giving her a strong village credit. I had just called her slight wolfy for being absent and I moved her from slight wolf lean to slight village lean as I read her catch up. She then had a meltdown that seemed out of character and I moved her back to wolf leans. I didn’t realize calling her slightly village was giving a strong read.
Well I can’t vouch for samac but since I keep being drug into it I can’t just ignore when it seems people are *willfully* misunderstanding. I actually moved samac from neutral to village when she went against the thread tide to village lean me. But now she backed off of it. I think she could be sincere about why she backed off so I don’t sus her but it is frustrating.
I jumped on Sunny? Where? I don't think I ever voted for her, in fact when everyone was jumping on her I tapped the brakes a bit and made that known to the thread. I put some pressure in that direction when shorty was arguing with her because I agreed with shorty that sun's arguments were weak, but pretty quickly got frustrated villager vibes and backed off. Shorty was NKed village and she was the one spurring on the argument.
