GGoats!! - An aMAAAAAHzing WW thread

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This is why if someone is outted as a chaos 3rd party in future games I’m gonna try and yeet them just as I yeet wolves. **** that. Everything anti-village can die.
Nothing Samac has said in particular has pinged me in either direction so far but this is giving me typical Samac "I'm village you ****ers" village!Samac vibes. Not ready to move Samac out of neutral but taking note of it.
Im worried she's trying to pocket me...
Another stretch. Do you really think I'd be trying to pocket you by saying I agree you're suspicious and I might put my vote there later?
 
Another stretch. Do you really think I'd be trying to pocket you by saying I agree you're suspicious and I might put my vote there later?
Idk, some people might be into that
 
Ok so I've caught up, but full disclosure my notes are a hot mess atm. The thing thats odd to me right now is that only mayo is voting for April? Dina & Barks are on Alissa and Doggo's on Sunshine. Do yall think they are stronger wolf reads than April or do you think april is not a wolf anymore?
 
I do find it interesting you stayed on mayo. I think he’s always been one to throw a few jokes out. Seems weak, especially when you were on the chopping block.
I wasn't interpreting Mayo's posts as jokey, which pinged me because usually it's pretty obvious he's joking when he is. So my impression of that is either he wasn't joking but then got called out and decided to say he was joking to cover his butt, or he was really joking but wasn't doing it well. The village!Mayo I'm familiar with is quite obviously jokey, and the wolfy!Mayo I experienced in the noob game was not.
 
This seems super sus to me, the part about flipping from wolf to village. Also I feel that Mayo is sus and it seems samac feels Mayo is village is giving me wolfy vibes. For that...

###yeet samac####
Sunshine was catching up like me. My mind change on her had to do with her and I catching up around the same time. I’ve explained that already though so I guess that doesn’t mean much.
The meltdown she had after that didn’t help her cause though.
Can I ask what in particular is giving you wolfy vibes on mayo?
 
So I went back and looked for where Zenge asked mkg questions. I found one (though it was a quick search):

Wow so repetitive, so wolfy

Also Zenge, in my search I found this too. I took note of it because this was your response to me when I had my vote on Mayo and I know later today you mentioned that you think I am village and people were trying to capitalize on my yeet D1. Was this post (above) a joke, or was this genuine and your opinion of me has now changed?
Yes that was the exact time that I did try to search for but between 1 search leaving stuff out, the other putting them out of order, and my migraine i couldn't keep scrolling and flipping back and forth.
...yeah no, if you're gonna make claims like that you have to show your work
well luckily April did it for me.
Nothing Samac has said in particular has pinged me in either direction so far but this is giving me typical Samac "I'm village you ****ers" village!Samac vibes. Not ready to move Samac out of neutral but taking note of it.

Another stretch. Do you really think I'd be trying to pocket you by saying I agree you're suspicious and I might put my vote there later?
that wasn't what you were saying at the time.
 
Nothing Samac has said in particular has pinged me in either direction so far but this is giving me typical Samac "I'm village you ****ers" village!Samac vibes. Not ready to move Samac out of neutral but taking note of it.

Another stretch. Do you really think I'd be trying to pocket you by saying I agree you're suspicious and I might put my vote there later?

I'm not sure why, but this struck me as really village and is making me rethink my vote on you.
 
wow now you are just trying to be difficult.
How?? You were asked to explain your comment on zenge, people even quoted the posts for you, and you still haven't said what you were referring to. How am I the one being difficult?
 
Sunshine was catching up like me. My mind change on her had to do with her and I catching up around the same time. I’ve explained that already though so I guess that doesn’t mean much.
The meltdown she had after that didn’t help her cause though.
Can I ask what in particular is giving you wolfy vibes on mayo?
you mean the migraine + certain people ganging up on me? sure, that meltdown.
 
oh I caught the sarcasm. Did not appreciate it. But also while being sarcastic you actually did pull the quote
Yeah, the quote that literally has exactly 0 wolfy vibes because it was a genuine question about something that was not previously asked/answered unlike your argument that Zenge asked multiple repetitive pointless questions.
 
I've been binge-reading past threads to understand the game. I haven't read the speed game just some of basics and cartoons
Okay, so yes, mkg did say this before zenge asked. But it doesn't validate any other part of your argument.
 
Sunshine was catching up like me. My mind change on her had to do with her and I catching up around the same time. I’ve explained that already though so I guess that doesn’t mean much.
The meltdown she had after that didn’t help her cause though.
Can I ask what in particular is giving you wolfy vibes on mayo?

The wanting to d2 salt vote really struck me. In the beginning Mayo and cray went back and forth about whether to yeet someone who was playing well and then got really defensive about all the joking back and worth. But if you can’t handle the pressure in a game like this I don’t think you should joke. They got really defensive in response to one of my reads about them and the sass level was real
 
Here's the whole exchange. If that's the basis for a wolf argument, that's weak AF.
I've been binge-reading past threads to understand the game. I haven't read the speed game just some of basics and cartoons

Just out of curiosity, which games did you read?

I started with cartoons, then basics, and I'm hoping to read the end of the world game at some point tonight when I have time.
 
i never said Z said "oh hey mkg can you repeat everything you ever said because i am a wolf"
So then what part of it IS wolfy? Because this was your original argument:
due to my comments and interactions with him on the thread, as well as what I said on my spreadsheet:

asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered, good analysis, saying NK1 could be 3P, elobarate TME/April theory to clear April that magically ends with me out of nowhere??
 
Ok I also found it, mkg mentioned in this post about an hour before that exchange


I've been binge-reading past threads to understand the game. I haven't read the speed game just some of basics and cartoons
 
it's wolfy because he is trying to appear to throw shade and hunt and is asking things that were already said hence not productive
I was pretty actively leading the charge in the fight against Pippy. That wasn’t for show. I got on the vote and stayed on it to the end.
 
I still don't read that as wolfy tbh, and I think other efforts supersede it (for me). Would like to see evidence of him asking other questions that have already been answered, because I haven't picked up on that, and otherwise that looks like one sketch point when all your other points on him seem to be positive @sunshinefl
 
me: Z asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered
everyone: No liar that didn't happen ever you're making it up
some people: pull the exact quotes and times confirming it happened
me: thank you yes that's the case
everyone: okay but like how is that wolfy
me: explains how it's wolfy-- pretending to be furthering a conversation by asking something that doesn't need to be asked because the person already said it
everyone: sunshine you are either a wolf or are playing bad
me: guys i literally explained it
some people: you don't make sense
 
I'm confused about Sun. In the past two games, she has come out of the gate straight up spitting village, to the point that she was our N1 kill choice in the emoji game. Not only is she not giving me any reason to read her village, she's actively stretching in seemingly every argument. I'm having trouble though because I'm keeping in mind the one time that she acted just like this right before she was yeeted D1 as village (can't remember what game, sorry) and I'm not sure if she would have responded this way if people weren't going after her for not being nearly as active. I am also having a really hard time figuring out why a wolf would think that Zenge would be a good place to fuel a misyeet, considering he is actively being village read by many people and definitely is not going to surpass her in wolfiness/on the yeet tally.
 
I still don't read that as wolfy tbh, and I think other efforts supersede it (for me). Would like to see evidence of him asking other questions that have already been answered, because I haven't picked up on that, and otherwise that looks like one sketch point when all your other points on him seem to be positive @sunshinefl
Actually correction, one I wasn't sure which way you were leaning and the other was about his april/TME theory. So scratch that.
 
me: Z asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered
everyone: No liar that didn't happen ever you're making it up
some people: pull the exact quotes and times confirming it happened
me: thank you yes that's the case
everyone: okay but like how is that wolfy
me: explains how it's wolfy-- pretending to be furthering a conversation by asking something that doesn't need to be asked because the person already said it
everyone: sunshine you are either a wolf or are playing bad
me: guys i literally explained it
some people: you don't make sense
How are you reading your wagon outside of Zenge?
 
I'm confused about Sun. In the past two games, she has come out of the gate straight up spitting village, to the point that she was our N1 kill choice in the emoji game. Not only is she not giving me any reason to read her village, she's actively stretching in seemingly every argument. I'm having trouble though because I'm keeping in mind the one time that she acted just like this right before she was yeeted D1 as village (can't remember what game, sorry) and I'm not sure if she would have responded this way if people weren't going after her for not being nearly as active. I am also having a really hard time figuring out why a wolf would think that Zenge would be a good place to fuel a misyeet, considering he is actively being village read by many people and definitely is not going to surpass her in wolfiness/on the yeet tally.
I can help with this. A wolf wouldn't. But a villager that believes in the vote would.
 
me: Z asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered
everyone: No liar that didn't happen ever you're making it up
some people: pull the exact quotes and times confirming it happened
me: thank you yes that's the case
everyone: okay but like how is that wolfy
me: explains how it's wolfy-- pretending to be furthering a conversation by asking something that doesn't need to be asked because the person already said it
everyone: sunshine you are either a wolf or are playing bad
me: guys i literally explained it
some people: you don't make sense
Because you're not making sense. One question about previous games does not make a wolf, even if she had mentioned it earlier.

By your own logic, because you posted questions about the exchange Cray and I had had, even though those answers could be found on the next page, you should be wolf reading yourself. Because you asked a question that some could say was redundant.
 
me: Z asking mkg questions about things they already volunteered
everyone: No liar that didn't happen ever you're making it up
some people: pull the exact quotes and times confirming it happened
me: thank you yes that's the case
everyone: okay but like how is that wolfy
me: explains how it's wolfy-- pretending to be furthering a conversation by asking something that doesn't need to be asked because the person already said it
everyone: sunshine you are either a wolf or are playing bad
me: guys i literally explained it
some people: you don't make sense
He could have missed the part where she said which games she had read though? Or forgotten? Or thought she had read more since the post he responded directly to just said she had been "reading games"

I dunno dude it just feels real weak and I just don't see how he's your top wolf read
 
A few updates:

Samac - Seems to be playing like her village self as she is catching up. I didn't have a problem with the initial salt vote. and am kindof sus of people still pretending not to get it. The TE vote looks bad in retrospect, but I doubt she would have wolf killed TE after being the only person voting for her. Overall leaning village based on content today.

Sunshine - Still having a hard time reading her. I get why she is frustrated, but it makes it hard to get a read. The early wagon seems more based on her activity than her content.

Shorty/Cray - Had both as village. Hasn't changed

AM/WZ - I've moved them both back to neutral. Maybe leaning wolf on WZ.

Dina - Had as a wolf read yesterday, but feels more village/wolf hunting today

Laney - Her reads don't make the most sense to me, but I'm not ready to yeet over it.

mkg323, Alissa - want to hear more

Barks/Doggo - I need to iso both because I have a hard time remembering who is who

Quoted this to ask you what your wolf reads are, . I saw april was one of them, but then I just saw you were considering her village.

Correct me if I’m wrong but you’re arguing that players shouldn’t use night kills to analyze the game state, and that wolves are killing people without any thought or strategy?

Mayo already touched on the WIFOM aspect, but another thing I mentioned earlier is that this seems to be a role heavy game which can add another element when it comes to NKs. We don't know if there's redirection, protectors, multiple NKs yet.

Not shaming you for NK analysis, just keep all of that in mind. It's what makes NK analysis difficult sometimes. I would say it's easier in basics and I still don't know why all the vets got killed off last game

okay well AM sorry to tell you, you are not the center of my universe. And that spreadsheet is mostly a note to self as i make reads. The primary audience is me, and secondary audience is the thread.

Okay, but if you're going to post your spreadsheet on the thread be prepared for it to be scrutinized

Mmmk it's 2 hours to yeet close. @alissa14 where are you?

yeah she said she was coming back at 6 (I assumed est). Not sure if she's hiding hoping votes will drift off of her to sunny or what, but right now I'm stuck trying to figure out if I want to stay on her

Ok so I've caught up, but full disclosure my notes are a hot mess atm. The thing thats odd to me right now is that only mayo is voting for April? Dina & Barks are on Alissa and Doggo's on Sunshine. Do yall think they are stronger wolf reads than April or do you think april is not a wolf anymore?

I talked about this I earlier, but it boils down to there being more wolfy (wolfier?) players right now. I feel a little better about her today based on her posts so far, but not moving her into the village pile anytime soon especially because I'm paranoid of her from the last two games
 
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