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[Zenge142]

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You think genny be lying?

No

 

[Zenge142]

Blasphemy

Lock Blocc

 

[Zenge142]

I didn't realize you were sus of vampy at the time. Talk more about that pls.

I’ve just had my niggling doubts about Vampy

 

[Zenge142]

- PSV's Unknown from DBD bodysuit doesnt seem far fetched but it doesnt seem entirely possible either, i never received it as an option but we are also missing like 50% of members rn so idk. until lissa comes back and we can get a little more, im not voting either one of them until like 2 hours before EOD if nothing else comes out of this.

There’s a certain amount of soft defense of PSV and wishywashyness that doesn’t quite sit right with me here

 

[Animal Midwife]

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Manual Tallying Tickles My Autism
mads () -
PSV (4) - samac, Greedy, Lissa, Clem
Lissa (1) - dubz

5/13
yeet close in ~9 hours
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[WildZoo]

mads/PSV/dubz does not seem like an accurate pair up at all, that would make dubz the more active wolf out of the three and tbh i just dont see this being a thing.

Not that I'm mad about the ungrouping but I'm confused about what you're saying with the activity bit

 

[mkg323]

Please hold while my 1 brain cell catches up

 

[vampyrica]

There’s a certain amount of soft defense of PSV and wishywashyness that doesn’t quite sit right with me here

there is no soft defense? i just want to hear a little more from lissa. i dont understand why wanting a clear picture of both interactions is such a bad thing? have ever been the type of person to just go “TEEHEE OKAY WHATEVER YOU GUYS SAY!” and vote? no.

 

[Zenge142]

Well I suppose I should update my list now that I’m caught up

Frolicking In The Field
mkg323
samac
WildZoo
genny

Going For a “Field Trip”
GreedyBanger

“Tour” of the Slaughterhouse
Clem J
beans2020
Sakuraaa

In the Frying Pan
vampyrica

Plated and Served
madrigal01
Lissarae06 (But only if PSV is a town flip)
potentialsheltervet

 

[Zenge142]

there is no soft defense? i just want to hear a little more from lissa. i dont understand why wanting a clear picture of both interactions is such a bad thing? have ever been the type of person to just go “TEEHEE OKAY WHATEVER YOU GUYS SAY!” and vote? no.

I mean saying that PSV’s bodysuit “doesn’t seem far fetched” is a soft defense.

Like sure, maybe it’s true that it doesn’t seem far fetched.

But by the definition of “soft defense” you saying that is a “soft defense” of PSV

 

[samac]

Well I suppose I should update my list now that I’m caught up

Frolicking In The Field
mkg323
samac
WildZoo
genny

Going For a “Field Trip”
GreedyBanger

“Tour” of the Slaughterhouse
Clem J
beans2020
Sakuraaa

In the Frying Pan
vampyrica

Plated and Served
madrigal01
Lissarae06 (But only if PSV is a town flip)
potentialsheltervet

This feels good

 

[vampyrica]

I mean saying that PSV’s bodysuit “doesn’t seem far fetched” is a soft defense.

Like sure, maybe it’s true that it doesn’t seem far fetched.

But by the definition of “soft defense” you saying that is a “soft defense” of PSV

because i’m being honest and seeing both sides its a soft defense? sorry last time i checked that was considered weighing all my options

 

[Zenge142]

Aside from Lissa’s claim being a bit more believable than PSV’s, I do think there is also an element to this situation where we have more of an imperative to flip PSV, because if by chance what PSV is claiming actually is true, then we need to know that sooner than later.

 

[vampyrica]

Not that I'm mad about the ungrouping but I'm confused about what you're saying with the activity bit

i had mentioned previously that it feels like there’s atleast one not so active wolf, because at the time all the interactions in the chat seemed on the towny side.

i dont think your grouping is valid because mads has been not super active, PSV has been not super active and you (at the time) were also not super active. thats all i’m saying, doesnt seem like a good mashup.

 

[vampyrica]

Aside from Lissa’s claim being a bit more believable than PSV’s, I do think there is also an element to this situation where we have more of an imperative to flip PSV, because if by chance what PSV is claiming actually is true, then we need to know that sooner than later.

okay i can see this as an option. follows the same logic i had about clem. this reasoning i can get behind

 

[Zenge142]

because i’m being honest and seeing both sides its a soft defense? sorry last time i checked that was considered weighing all my options

Regardless of your intentions or thought process, lending validity to PSV’s claim is by definition “soft defense”.

That is how I feel. You can feel differently.

I’m not going to argue with you about it, because as it stands it’s Sunday, and I wouldn’t be considering to vote for you until Thursday, or possibly next Saturday, and obviously a lot will have changed by then, so I don’t think it’s worth anyone’s time or energy arguing about it.

 

[vampyrica]

Regardless of your intentions or thought process, lending validity to PSV’s claim is by definition “soft defense”.

That is how I feel. You can feel differently.

I’m not going to argue with you about it, because as it stands it’s Sunday, and I wouldn’t be considering to vote for you until Thursday, or possibly next Saturday, and obviously a lot will have changed by then, so I don’t think it’s worth anyone’s time or energy arguing about it.

respectfully, then dont bring it up in the first place if you dont want me to argue with you about it. you cant tell me "i think this is a soft defense" then move me to a scum read and go "lol im not arguing with you about it because i feel this way and you feel that way". how does that make any sense? shutting me out because you think you found some sort of damning evidence when i always weigh my options before making a vote?

be so for real.

 

[samac]

respectfully, then dont bring it up in the first place if you dont want me to argue with you about it. you cant tell me "i think this is a soft defense" then move me to a scum read and go "lol im not arguing with you about it because i feel this way and you feel that way". how does that make any sense? shutting me out because you think you found some sort of damning evidence when i always weigh my options before making a vote?

be so for real.

I know you said you want more from lissa before making a decision, but can I get your gut reaction to it all?

 

[vampyrica]

I know you said you want more from lissa before making a decision, but can I get your gut reaction to it all?

that its for sure either one of them, i just want to feel good that we picked the correct person out of the two. if PSV flips scum, then we get a notch in the win belt and read lissa as town and move her out of POEs. if thats the case, then mads would be the next to look at in my opinion. (that hurt to type omg)

if PSV flips town, then we know it was lissa and vote her out the next day, we would lose 2 town in the process (one being PSV and one being whoever they kill that night). if someone has a vig shot then they can use it on lissa and it would save us the trouble of voting her out the following day. but we still lose 2 town.

vice versa applies

 

[samac]

If PSV does flip village I think there is a small chance that she still did the kill. I’ve seen body snatching in RvB @WildZoo

 

[WildZoo]

If PSV does flip village I think there is a small chance that she still did the kill. I’ve seen body snatching in RvB @WildZoo

I blame Mel for that!!!!

I actually don't remember that mechanic at all but it sounds like something I would do

 

[supershorty]

I blame Mel for that!!!!

I actually don't remember that mechanic at all but it sounds like something I would do

Didn't Literary also have a mechanic like that? @Zenge142

 

[vampyrica]

If PSV does flip village I think there is a small chance that she still did the kill. I’ve seen body snatching in RvB @WildZoo

could it be possible they are both scum? or is that highly unlikely?

 

[samac]

Didn't Literary also have a mechanic like that? @Zenge142

True!

 

[beans2020]

If PSV does flip village I think there is a small chance that she still did the kill. I’ve seen body snatching in RvB @WildZoo

So wait are you saying it's possible that one of the wolves used PSV to kill KJQ? Like they used an item to possess her?

 

[samac]

I blame Mel for that!!!!

I actually don't remember that mechanic at all but it sounds like something I would do

It was the damn night I got converted.
They converted me while I was working with Zenges and April and Allie on a scheme lol
Allie doctored April.
Zenge I think was going to vig cray
But they turned zenge on April. And targeted her for him to kill.
So they did all that and all they got to show for it was me as a wolf lol

 

[samac]

So wait are you saying it's possible that one of the wolves used PSV to kill KJQ? Like they used an item to possess her?

I don’t think it’s the likely scenario, but I just have seen something happen once.

 

[samac]

could it be possible they are both scum? or is that highly unlikely?

PSV and lissa? No. They’re unpaired. A Wolfpack doesn’t plan together to use their actions on the same person

 

[Zenge142]

PSV and lissa? No. They’re unpaired. A Wolfpack doesn’t plan together to use their actions on the same person

Unless KJQ was a wolf, and PSV Killed her while Lissa used an action to make KJQ flip village, to throw people off.

I don't think that's what happened here.

I just wanted to point out that it's theoretically possible.

 

[samac]

Unless KJQ was a wolf, and PSV Killed her while Lissa used an action to make KJQ flip village, to throw people off.

I don't think that's what happened here.

I just wanted to point out that it's theoretically possible.

Oh okay you’re right.
Genny is in on it too and watched the whole thing.
Tricksy Wolfpack

 

[Lissarae06]

Ok @WildZoo I’m done driving. Other than my dog getting car sick, drive went quick.

After thinking about it for the past couple hours, I don’t think going through my reasons for tracking KJQ will get myself or any other villager hurt.

I got another list of 4 items. One was the tin cans. Based on the description I guessed that I could use them to PM someone but wasn’t sure yet. I tracked KJQ in the hopes of clearing her or catching her doing something nefarious. If she was clear, I had someone trustworthy to potentially communicate with. If she was wolfy, I could use the tin cans to pass that info along without the wolves thinking I was a seer. Turned out to be a bust since KJQ died and the tin cans will only allow you to send an anonymous message, not message back and forth. So if you receive an anonymous message tonight, it is probably me. I probably won’t use it because I don’t have anymore useful info to pass and no one I trust.

 

[Lissarae06]

Lock Blocc

I don’t know what this means

 

[supershorty]

no one I trust.

Not even me? 🥺

 

[WildZoo]

Ok @WildZoo I’m done driving. Other than my dog getting car sick, drive went quick.

After thinking about it for the past couple hours, I don’t think going through my reasons for tracking KJQ will get myself or any other villager hurt.

I got another list of 4 items. One was the tin cans. Based on the description I guessed that I could use them to PM someone but wasn’t sure yet. I tracked KJQ in the hopes of clearing her or catching her doing something nefarious. If she was clear, I had someone trustworthy to potentially communicate with. If she was wolfy, I could use the tin cans to pass that info along without the wolves thinking I was a seer. Turned out to be a bust since KJQ died and the tin cans will only allow you to send an anonymous message, not message back and forth. So if you receive an anonymous message tonight, it is probably me. I probably won’t use it because I don’t have anymore useful info to pass and no one I trust.

You answered most the of the questions I was gonna ask 😂 could you list all the items you've been offered?

 

[Zenge142]

I don’t know what this means

I was jokingly saying you were one of my strongest village reads, based purely on our shared love of espresso.

 

[WildZoo]

Ok @WildZoo I’m done driving. Other than my dog getting car sick, drive went quick.

After thinking about it for the past couple hours, I don’t think going through my reasons for tracking KJQ will get myself or any other villager hurt.

I got another list of 4 items. One was the tin cans. Based on the description I guessed that I could use them to PM someone but wasn’t sure yet. I tracked KJQ in the hopes of clearing her or catching her doing something nefarious. If she was clear, I had someone trustworthy to potentially communicate with. If she was wolfy, I could use the tin cans to pass that info along without the wolves thinking I was a seer. Turned out to be a bust since KJQ died and the tin cans will only allow you to send an anonymous message, not message back and forth. So if you receive an anonymous message tonight, it is probably me. I probably won’t use it because I don’t have anymore useful info to pass and no one I trust.

Idk about the clearing KJQ bit though because it would only have meant she wasn't doing the kill that night if you hadn't seen her visiting the kill target

 

[Lissarae06]

Not even me? 🥺

You least of all 🤣

 

[Lissarae06]

Idk about the clearing KJQ bit though because it would only have meant she wasn't doing the kill that night if you hadn't seen her visiting the kill target

Well cleared as much as possible. I wasn’t sure what exactly it did. It showed me where she went but not what she did. But I wasn’t 100% sure what the air tracker was going to show when I used it.

 

[supershorty]

You least of all 🤣

Lissa pls, SAR designed the game, I don't even know what's going on

 

[Lissarae06]

You answered most the of the questions I was gonna ask 😂 could you list all the items you've been offered?

Yes.
1. Street drug called the faints
2. A lighter
3. The air tracker
4. Megaphone

Next night:
1. Stilts
2. Tin cans
3. Coupon for ice cream

 

[beans2020]

This is all making me lean heavily wolf!psv and town!Lissa. I feel like Lissa's story is a LOT more believable than PSV's.
yeet psv
(at least for now)

 

[WildZoo]

Yes.
1. Street drug called the faints
2. A lighter
3. The air tracker
4. Megaphone

Next night:
1. Stilts
2. Tin cans
3. Coupon for ice cream

So what was this comment about?

although I have reason to believe there are items that allow for the spread of gossip

 

[WildZoo]

PSV and lissa? No. They’re unpaired. A Wolfpack doesn’t plan together to use their actions on the same person

I can't remember, did you say you got any kind of indication that KJQ had acted on you?

 

[Zenge142]

I can't remember, did you say you got any kind of indication that KJQ had acted on you?

I believe she said she did not, however had been offered the tracking item, and so it makes sense, logically from that perspective

 

[samac]

I can't remember, did you say you got any kind of indication that KJQ had acted on you?

I did not. I only got one notification of someone interacting with me and it wasn’t that.

 

[WildZoo]

I did not. I only got one notification of someone interacting with me and it wasn’t that.

Yeah I know what that one was 😉

 

[WildZoo]

But yeah regardless would be real weird for two wolves to act on KJQ unless one was blocking and one was killing or something, but in that scenario you'd usually just have one wolf do both actions. So I'm not gonna get paranoid about that.

 

[Lissarae06]

So what was this comment about?

The tin cans

 

[WildZoo]

@samac does that track with the description you got for the tin cans?

 

[WildZoo]

It's a small thing but it stuck in my brain so I wanted to follow the thread