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still catching up, but I dont think I'll be UTD by yeet close. Im gonna leave my vote where it is since I dont really know whats going on with the wagons currently in the lead. I promise to be on more tomorrow, will give more thorough reads at some point in the day.
 
Day 1 Yeet Tally
April () -
dubz () -
Sporty () -
Bread (3) - mkg, Mel, Cray
Cray (1) - mayo
Vis (1) - genny
Mel (1) - sunshine
mayo () -
Zenge (2) - Bob, Bread
genny (3) - dubz, Zenge, Pippy
Bob (3) - alley, April, Vis
sunshine (1) - Sporty

15/15
yeet close in ~13 minutes
 
You feel lackluster.
Hey! I'm very shiny

shiny walk GIF by Sakke Soini
 
He was mine too...is that why this hurts so much?
Dammit if you’re pocketing me I can’t trust you again. I truly don’t like yeeting new players for things that could be explained by newness and our unfamiliarity with how they play. I want to move to genny but
This questions also implies knowledge of my villageness. In what world does a villager wolf-reading me ask this question?
this post I think is a good point and I’m freezing
 
It's really not. I honestly just can't think of a single game I've played where Genny didn't wolf read me.
Right but does her tendency to wolf read you matter if she’s wolfing? Her reads would be based on what’s convenient for wolves and what she can justify based on thread, not how she would be reading you if she genuinely didn’t know your af.
 
Day 1 Yeet Tally
April () -
dubz (1) - mkg
Sporty () -
Bread (2) - Mel, Cray
Cray (1) - mayo
Vis (1) - genny
Mel (1) - sunshine
mayo () -
Zenge (2) - Bob, Bread
genny (3) - dubz, Zenge, Pippy
Bob (3) - alley, April, Vis
sunshine (1) - Sporty

15/15
yeet close in ~2 minutes
 
Day 1 Yeet Tally
April () -
dubz (1) - mkg
Sporty () -
Bread (2) - Mel, Cray
Cray (1) - mayo
Vis (1) - genny
Mel () -
mayo () -
Zenge (2) - Bob, Bread
genny (4) - dubz, Zenge, Pippy, sunshine
Bob (3) - alley, April, Vis
sunshine (1) - Sporty

15/15
yeet close in ~1 minute
 
Final Day 1 Yeet Tally
April () -
dubz (1) - mkg
Sporty () -
Bread (1) - Cray
Cray (1) - mayo
Vis (1) - genny
Mel () -
mayo () -
Zenge (2) - Bob, Bread
genny (6) - dubz, Zenge, Pippy, sunshine, Mel, Vis
Bob (2) - alley, April
sunshine (1) - Sporty

15/15
 
Huh. Ok.

I'd like to hear from those last minute genny voters. Worried about there being some wolfy setup going on with one of the other frontrunners being killed.

And I'll be driving for a while so catch y'all later.
 
@WildZoo didn’t like Z (went over why in prev posts), Bread (there wasn’t a lot of D1 content to go on and he had no way to defend himself in the hours up to close), or Bob (wolfy posts could also be explained as newbie villager posts and his end of day appeals felt sincere) wagons. Admittedly my genny vote was kind of sheeping the wagon I felt best about the composition of since I can’t read her.

That’s a bold NK choice. I’m trying to think why wolves would go for a villager who was in a tie with a villager who flipped. I guess they always might have seen something PR-wise, but I don’t see what would have made them think that. I don’t think there’s anything that can be directly read
 
*directly read from the NK choice about Bread and Z’s affiliations since there’s so many layers of WIFOM. With context from rereading and VCA/vote timing analysis (which I’m not about to do in the next 9 hours because work) it might be very informative.
 
I’m actually inclined to clear Vis and Mel for their Genny votes.
AM posts this tally with 1 minute until close.
Day 1 Yeet Tally
April () -
dubz (1) - mkg
Sporty () -
Bread (2) - Mel, Cray
Cray (1) - mayo
Vis (1) - genny
Mel () -
mayo () -
Zenge (2) - Bob, Bread
genny (4) - dubz, Zenge, Pippy, sunshine
Bob (3) - alley, April, Vis
sunshine (1) - Sporty

15/15
yeet close in ~1 minute
Genny is already in the lead. With only 1 minute to close.

Mel moves off of bread onto Genny. Bread wasn’t in danger of everything swinging to him in those lost few seconds so you can’t say Mel was protecting bread. Since wolves know how Genny will flip, I can’t think of a reason why a wolf would have made the switch Mel made here.

Vis next moved off of Bob onto Genny. Now, since Bob was killed overnight, we know Vis moved from one villager who maybe would have been yeeted, but unlikely, to another villager who was already in the lead to get yeeted. With less than a minute to go. Again, I can’t understand why a wolf would have done this, and drawn attention to themselves like this.

Genny was already in the lead, with less than a minute to go. Neither one was saving anyone by switching their vote. Overall it was an odd thing to do, but I’m inclined to read them as village for it.
 
I apologize for being absent yesterday. The trip to western KS did not have cell service, which I was not expecting. I am caught up on the thread and I should have some quotes I pulled posted shortly
 
First of all, I am really surprised that the wolves killed bob overnight. I think he could have been an easy misyeet, and I know I would have probably been someone who voted for him again today. I was satisfied with my vote on him at EOD, but clearly I was misguided and misjudged his noobiness for wolfiness.
 
What I mean by wolf plot is wolves either killing bob to make someone else on the board look bad, to make it look like exactly what zenge is suggesting with clearing the people who moved late, or to make us think they're trying to do one of the above.

Isn't night kill analysis fun??
 
Zenge trying to manufacture something where there is nothing and being intentionally obtuse fits with his meta from the previous times I've seen him wolf.
Mayo stated this perfectly. Whenever I see Zenge making large leaps of logic and exaggerating, I get pinged by his wolfiness. I have seen those stretching the truth a couple of times so far this game.
This made me uncomfortable. I know bob is usually jokey, but this felt forced

This also seemed like a joke that was just a bit off. Like a wolf trying a bit too hard
@Melchizedek here is where I pointed out that I was feeling icky about bob



Totally breaking my post up since I have to head out soon.


Think there might be something between Zenge and Mayo but I am feeling like Mayo is most likely to be a villager. Mayo does a feel a little less like regular Mayo but he does seem to take this as more of a prep game rather than just a run of the mill game serious. And maybe jumping away from metas is the best thing we can do.
Agreeing with Bread’s logic here. Still reading Z as more wolfy than Mayo, but some of his posts today seemed pro-village. And yes, it’s possible that they’re both villagers, but that interaction seemed more conducive to w/v. Way too much attention was drawn to it for me to think it was w/w though.
I expect to hear more from mkg this far into D1. Not so sure about sporty, I think I remember she usually shows up late?
I know MKG was the other person (besides myself) who didn’t meet post minimum, so I will be keeping an eye on her posts today to see what she’s thinking

I would appreciate expansion on what specifically pinged your radar.
I can’t figure out how to move the quotes around, so just look where I tagged you earlier in this post to see where I pointed out which posts pinged me before.
Mmmkay. So I’m a terrible villager or a terrible wolf! Lol

So you don’t think zenge was touchy???
My pippy logic didn’t make sense???
I understand you disagreeing on you. But my logic should be fairly easy to follow.
Sun is much more agreeable so far than previous wolf time.

Most of my other reads were pretty much nothing. I am not sure what I am missing that I should be getting
Well I pulled this last night as another bob quote that rubbed me the wrong way.
Lol. Try not to sugarcoat it too much. Just say what you mean!
And another one. I seriously misjudged him ugh
I'm assuming this is what you're referring to in regards to bread



I don't really blame him for thinking you and mayo felt w/v, a lot of other people thought that too. It seems he hopped onto the thread before hitting the road and probably saw that interaction going down and everyone talking about it and didn't have the time to go back and consider someone else. I'd like to see how he feels once he's done driving and can catch up on the thread

Maybe I'm just remembering differently but I thought when we wolfed together last time, he intentionally seemed to do the opposite as us so that we weren't moving together as a group too much? I need to go back and see if Bob posted a read of Bread
I agree with April’s summary of wolf!bread. During WoWP, he was very careful trying to not seem too associated with the other wolves. So far, his few posts seem village to me
iT's a ReACtiOn TeSt
I literally still do not understand reaction tests, so fair warning I’m going to be confused if somebody does one in this game
And besides the AtE I would have unvoted him just to encourage his play.
What is AtE?
 
All those Genny votes that piled on after she was already in the lead really wigged me out, but now that we know the counter wagon was also a villager, I'm spinning in WIFOM circles.

I'm still leaning Zenge village, which would make all three leading wagons village, and wolves could have safely hid on a lone vote
 
I'm making a note to myself to go back and see what Sporty was on Sun for and what Mayo was on Cray for. I remember mkg said she intentionally put her vote on Dubz because she didn't want to be on a leading wagon which felt okay in the moment given her busy schedule, but now knowing that two of the three leading wagons were village and I think the third is too, it doesn't make me feel good about mkg's vote placement. Just need to see more from her today
 
Okay, as always a lot of my D1 reads are trash. Time to update.

Village:
Mel- Still like my village read. Seems to be wolf hunting. The Genny vote makes Mel seem more village to me in a Derp clear kind of way. Especially since I’ve been told Mel is a pretty good wolf and a smart wolf wouldn’t have drawn attention to themselves like that.

Pippy- Reading her as village. Seems like she’s contributing in an meaningful way, and actively wolf hunting.

Sunny- Still village reading her. I’m actually inclined to give her the same clear I’m giving to Vis and Mel. Her vote switch to Genny did come earlier, with two minutes to spare, but the vote was tied between two villagers, Genny and Bob at the time. Her logic for the switch, based on her posts was to take away Genny’s ability to control the situation, but at best it stopped Genny from self preservation voting onto Bob. I think if Sunny was wolfing, knowing both Genny and Bob were villagers, she would have stayed the hell away from either vote and just quietly left her vote on Mel.

Vis- Again, my village read here hasn’t changed. Her participation this game has been helpful, and pro-village. Also like Mel, I’m inclined to derp clear her for the last second switch to Genny. What wolf in their right mind does that?

Cray- I’m nervous to say it but I think I have to give Cray a village read. There’s nothing about Cray’s posts that have stood out to me as wolfy, not that I’m great at reading her but her tie making in the last hour seems village to me. I know her tie making shenanigans really sketched Mayo out, but this seems like Village!Cray trying to cause a little tension and get information by seeing what people do. I really don’t think wolf!Cray would be reckless like that. It really seems like a village!Cray move.

Neutral:
Dubz- Still the village side of neutral. Nothing stands out as wolfy, but nothing that’s making me sure she’s village either.

April- I’m moving her down to neutral. Since my top two wolf contenders are dead, I need to reevaluate everyone and there have definitely been things that have pinged me. I didn’t like how quick she was to vote onto Mayo after saying she wouldn’t vote there. She made that post about how “bread stayed away from wolves” in the last game which wasn’t accurate and since bread is one of my wolf reads, it gives me pause for sure. She has said a lot on this thread defending me, which I have to wonder now if this is a pocketing. Definitely going to keep a close eye on April during this cycle.

Mayo- He came off as a frustrated villager in our disagreement. It read genuine. Still hasn’t posted a whole lot of content or thoughts about the game to really get a sense of his affiliation yet though, so I’m leaving him in neutral.

MKG- Too few posts to say anything about this effectively. Her EOD posts were weird, and Sunny called her out for it. Still not sure what to make of it without further content for analysis.

Sporty- I don’t really have a good sense of her affiliation right now. She doesn’t have very many posts to analyze and help me make a determination.

Wolfy:
Alley- Not much content. But what she’s just posted, she’s working pretty hard to shade me based on posts from over 1/2 the thread ago from my argument with Mayo. It’s what really sketches me out about Bread too. They’re both driving this narrative that it HAS to be a w/v interaction. Neither one even remotely considering a v/v possibility. I also thing it’s pretty sketchy that she’s making the argument that when I’m wolfing I make this twisty arguments. You know where that narrative had the most traction? England, when I was arguing with Sunny and MK, where Cray shot me because she thought my arguments were “twisty” and I was village. So if you’re going to try and shade me by saying I’m only “twisty” when I’m wolfing, you’re dead wrong on that point.

Bread- Also very little content to actually analyze, still feel wolfy about the things I’ve mentioned above, and other posts.
 
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