HoWWrses: Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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I hate catching wolves mechanically almost as much as I hate being caught the same way. This is like a @dolphin106258 in Afterparty moment for me because I really was not thinking AM was a wolf and did not want ski to end up dead

Gah I don't care, I'm going to sleep, my vote won't be moving, the rest of you can do what you want.

 

[vetmedhead]

Lynch AM

Based on Dubz intel

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

What's the point in me putting reminders in my notes if I forget to read them?? 🙄

@Melchizedek @Crayola227 @SnowshoeDog143 @SARdoghandler Current reads on AM?

@CoffeeQuestionMark How are you feeling about skim and cray these days?

I moved to village on Cray and neutral on Skimble.

 

[Melchizedek]

un-BALE-veable I was post restricted to post with a pun or dad joke today. Y'all better saddle up because I don't FOAL around with my pun business 😉

Well that is why I asked

I'm more inclined to think that if a wagon isn't taking off, its because village just isn't buying what you're selling. Compared to a wagon accumulating votes but ultimately someone else getting lynched.

Ski got killed early again 🙁

and we're going to hear about it for months 🙄

It was a reaction test.
Did you find anything from the second part?

eta - I'm referring to the last sentence

Exactly.

I looked back at D1, which is hard to pinpoint who is pushing a wagon away from Kara to where because of the ties and stuff. Need to go to bed, but right off the top of my head, meats was on the counterwagons to Kara pretty much all three days (including today. She was on coffee pre-reveal when coffee was a viable lynch against Kara.) I'll be looking into D2 and D3 tomorrow as well as some other things involving you, meats, capri, and snowy.

However none of that data is going to do me much good without confirming what Kara's alignment is, so moot.

Current reads on AM?

I answered this a couple posts back. I am village reading her. The fact that she was on the front end of the Gwen votes, however wrong it may have been, shows me she's trying to put independent thought into the game, compared to preying on village's own paranoias and doubts about people.


Thats a bad lynch dubz.

Lets try this one more time people

Lynch Kara

 

[Stagg737]

Gwen had 5 comments all game while alive as seen below:

lynch zigjazz

Don’t get too excited, I’m deep in three weeks of exams with a side of two broken vehicles, so I’m only doing my best

Sorry!
You’re a new name so I felt like putting pressure.

Unlynch zigjazz

lynch Cray
Haven't seen her much, or at least haven't seen her word vomit yet

I ignored the vast majority of the statistics talk, because I was ready to vomit.

With that in mind, here's some things that are bothering me about the Gwen lynch:

1. Lupin flipped to someone to save Kara again. Second day in a row she's been on the end of a train to save Kara and she's voted with her 2/3 days. The third day Kara didn't vote. On iso she has several posts about Gwen being suspicious but her only one giving reasons was this:

I haven't seen much from her and staying away from the lynch candidates yesterday warrants some investigation.

Maybe all coincidental, but those would be pretty odd coincidences.

2. Genny has made 31 posts this game, and only about 5 are actually relevant. Voted for Gwen without explanation. @genny , would like a reason for that vote when you get a chance.

3. AM. Where do I even begin? I've already stated some things bothering me about her, and now there's the shenanigans that Dubz posted. Let's look at some actual quotes though. AM said she gave her reasoning for voting Gwen several times. Here they are:

Lynch Gwen

because her votes seemed at odd with what was happening in the thread.

Gwen voted for Ziggy then Cray D1. Not really much to go off there, but okay. Then on the bottom of that page Zigs asked if it was a pressure vote and AM said "All my votes are pressure votes." AM being AM, whatever. Later that night (Tuesday) she posted this when Dolphin asked if Gwen was a quiet player:

I haven't played with Gwen in a while. I'm just hoping to hear updated thoughts.

Great, so a pressure vote. Fine.

Then she voted for Gwen the following morning. When Mutts asked why her response was:

I already said yesterday.

When I asked everyone on Gwen's lynch why they voted for her. AM's response was:

I said multiple times why I was.

I checked after both your votes on her. I didn't find more reasons beyond what I posted here. So where's your multiple times? Where's your actual justification? Because that's weak sauce. If I missed something then quote it, because you've posted 233 times this game and I found 2 posts which actually said "why" you voted for her 2 days in a row.

The other thing that bothers me about everything with AM is that it was D3 and AM was still on Gwen. Shechad 3 full days worth of info to find out who was wolfy and her best read was the person who had posted 5 times in the game? After she has spent half the game saying people should vote for the person they find most wolfy? I don't buy that for a second. Not from AM.

Another thing with AM which I've found strange is she has asked at least 3 different people what they thought about Capri but has not given any reads on Capri herself. Seems like she's trying to see if a Capri lynch would take off in the future. When asked about her sketchy reads yesterday afternoon she said:

I'm bothered by Stagg, mutts, Gwen, and Ski currently.

So no mention of Capri, which may not be what she was thinking, but there's other problems with these reads. We know Gwen and Ski were villagers. I know I'm a villager. So 3/4 of her top reads are wrong. And her top read had terrible justification. This doesn't even get into her questions that seem like fluff, but I'm not going to bother with that right now.

So there you go AM. You wanted to know my actual reasons for why I've thought you were sketchy. There it is. If you're actually a villager, you're doing a bad job of it this game. Both from the wolf-hunting perspective and the not being sketchballz af side.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Gwen had 5 comments all game while alive as seen below:







With that in mind, here's some things that are bothering me about the Gwen lynch:

1. Lupin flipped to someone to save Kara again. Second day in a row she's been on the end of a train to save Kara and she's voted with her 2/3 days. The third day Kara didn't vote. On iso she has several posts about Gwen being suspicious but her only one giving reasons was this:



Maybe all coincidental, but those would be pretty odd coincidences.

2. Genny has made 31 posts this game, and only about 5 are actually relevant. Voted for Gwen without explanation. @genny , would like a reason for that vote when you get a chance.

3. AM. Where do I even begin? I've already stated some things bothering me about her, and now there's the shenanigans that Dubz posted. Let's look at some actual quotes though. AM said she gave her reasoning for voting Gwen several times. Here they are:



Gwen voted for Ziggy then Cray D1. Not really much to go off there, but okay. Then on the bottom of that page Zigs asked if it was a pressure vote and AM said "All my votes are pressure votes." AM being AM, whatever. Later that night (Tuesday) she posted this when Dolphin asked if Gwen was a quiet player:



Great, so a pressure vote. Fine.

Then she voted for Gwen the following morning. When Mutts asked why her response was:



When I asked everyone on Gwen's lynch why they voted for her. AM's response was:



I checked after both your votes on her. I didn't find more reasons beyond what I posted here. So where's your multiple times? Where's your actual justification? Because that's weak sauce. If I missed something then quote it, because you've posted 233 times this game and I found 2 posts which actually said "why" you voted for her 2 days in a row.

The other thing that bothers me about everything with AM is that it was D3 and AM was still on Gwen. Shechad 3 full days worth of info to find out who was wolfy and her best read was the person who had posted 5 times in the game? After she has spent half the game saying people should vote for the person they find most wolfy? I don't buy that for a second. Not from AM.

Another thing with AM which I've found strange is she has asked at least 3 different people what they thought about Capri but has not given any reads on Capri herself. Seems like she's trying to see if a Capri lynch would take off in the future. When asked about her sketchy reads yesterday afternoon she said:



So no mention of Capri, which may not be what she was thinking, but there's other problems with these reads. We know Gwen and Ski were villagers. I know I'm a villager. So 3/4 of her top reads are wrong. And her top read had terrible justification. This doesn't even get into her questions that seem like fluff, but I'm not going to bother with that right now.

So there you go AM. You wanted to know my actual reasons for why I've thought you were sketchy. There it is. If you're actually a villager, you're doing a bad job of it this game. Both from the wolf-hunting perspective and the not being sketchballz af side.

Are you telling me you thought Gwen was village? The worst part of this post is you're approaching it from perspective that I'm village after telling me I'm a wolf since the game started. Do you believe your own reads?

 

[Crayola227]

I'm kind of hoping conversion is not an option for Coffee? given her role. Seems pretty broken because what if they converted her before she used the ability?

I feel like you should know how this could be. This feels like feigned ignorance because I can't believe you wouldn't have thought of it. Hell, I'm pretty sure this very discussion has happened before in the last 3 years. If you can remember what some noob ate for lunch before he switched off a vote in 2017, then I think you can remember that the whole issue of what the significance is of innocent child mod confirmation is for convert hunting. People you love convert hunting so much, I know these things stick out to you.

 

[Stagg737]

Nah I find it NAI. Was just wondering if you had any thoughts on her besides the self prez.

I probably would have waited it out a bit to see where the vote went but not everybody likes to flirt with lynch close like I do.

Not really. Pretty much straight up self-prez, which is why I tried to waffle to Kara once I thought I was safe.

Oh no

For the reasons, I listed before.

Considering the reasons you gave for Gwen were weak sauce and you've literally posted over 5 pages worth of content yourself, care to remind us what those reasons are?

I answered this a couple posts back. I am village reading her. The fact that she was on the front end of the Gwen votes, however wrong it may have been, shows me she's trying to put independent thought into the game, compared to preying on village's own paranoias and doubts about people.

You really think she didn't have a better sketch read on anyone other than Gwen after 3 days? I don't buy that, not from her.

Are you telling me you thought Gwen was village? The worst part of this post is you're approaching it from perspective that I'm village after telling me I'm a wolf since the game started. Do you believe your own reads?

Like I said above, I had no real feelings on Gwen other than I'd rather her get lynched than me.

I 95% believe my reads on you. There is one specific post which is making me doubt those reads and there is one other post which gives me a tinfoil theory that makes my head want to potentially explode (and could dethrone Mel). Given Dubz new info, I'm now fine with either you or Kara being lynched. You're my top 2 reads and both will yield important info regardless of how you two flip.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm kind of hoping conversion is not an option for Coffee? given her role. Seems pretty broken because what if they converted her before she used the ability?

Also, a second reading, this looks like you might be casting shade on Coffee before her mod announcement. Which might make sense for nefarious you to do, she is the only cleared villager for the time period before now, which you are questioning

 

[Crayola227]

What's the point in me putting reminders in my notes if I forget to read them?? 🙄

@Melchizedek @Crayola227 @SnowshoeDog143 @SARdoghandler Current reads on AM?

@CoffeeQuestionMark How are you feeling about skim and cray these days?

I am now worried about AM. The point where I couldn't deny it was where I said I don't believe her comment about gamebreaking and Coffee's ability and possible convertability.

I think one other post I put out there way earlier I said she seemed a little obtuse as well.

I did note one instance of her being a bit more sassy, and there's a certain amount of emotional play from AM that always really, really, worries me. But, like, it feels wrong to put someone in a village meta box where the more closely they resemble a WW Turing machine, like they generate verbal responses that appear to come from a living mind, and one that is clearly intelligent, but it is not a human mind with emotional responses showing through, and any signs of humanity are actually signs of lycanthropy. Most posts I read from AM have very little tone at all to me. I usually don't even know what AM is thinking, let alone feeling. So those bits of feeling jump out at me. Then, it's a question of what those feelings are, and why I think they are there and came through.

Now I'll have to review what that was. But, this is why AM blipped my radar. It wasn't anything to note except where I have commented, and what's more I'd have to go back and look. I'm pulling the trigger now, because I'm not calling AM out for -YIKES- showing signs of feeling on thread, alone, but the tone and more tellingly, what it seemed like it was in reaction to or what it seemed to do. I think earlier it seemed like she was annoyed and wanting to shut something down and it looked a little anti-village to me.

Often I feel like AM is asking questions, and I'm like, seriously? Is that a question? Or what is the utility? (Yes, I have learned there is a mastermind at work that I don't understand) and often I can give her the benefit of the doubt. But as with my theories on meta for anyone, at some point that breaks down and I'm not sure I can believe it's something they truly believe.

(AM, you are a kind, rational, seasoned, playful, thoughtful, player. You are not a robot that generates 20Qs 😛. I am not trying to be mean about you and your meta. I don't know if you play poker but I bet it would be good.)

 

[Crayola227]

For the reasons, I listed before.

for ease of reading, can you mention then in response to the question

 

[Crayola227]

this all feels like wolf AM

lynch AM

I was earlier in love with Mel, and not loving Stagg. I was deadset on Kara and Lupin.

Lupin's PM behaviour with me, which I follow so much more clearly than vote switcheroos, is definitely wolfy, however I don't know if it's her meta, and the issue is the only person vouching for it is Kara. Cue others, like Stagg and Mel making good points on Lupin. Also on Kara.

Kara gave some decent defense for herself, and it's disturbed me how now she is the pin that others seem to be basing all their analyses and blah blah blah. An egg to crack at this point probably. Of course, I am now starting to get paranoid of Mel, because, well, maybe he's stuck on this, he's wrong, and maybe worse than wrong he's a wolf?

But then nevermind how in love with each other Kara and Lupin are. Since they are both so problematically sketchy I am not sure if they are both wolves that they would be this blatant on thread. So I clearly don't believe they're v/v, and if I'm not willing to believe w/w, then it's w/v. So one of them is wolfy, one is villagey, and yet they are sketch as all hell and all over each other. I can't do this.

Stagg's points have raised him a bit in my eyes. The main issue I had with him earlier was just lack of participation and the faults others had found so far, but I feel he did a bit to address them.

Oh God, and do I really have to reconsider Mel? As always, how do I want to be wrong about Mel. Tabled.

Lastly, and this could be tinfoil, could Coffee be 3rd party? I don't even what to 3rd party hunt, and I'm trying to figure out if there could be caveats to innocent child, and hell, there is the whole cultist thing, it's possible to have a 3rd party that can convert others to 3rd party. Not that I was loving her 3rd party theory, but if we're going to go down the rabbit holes high on acid let's not leave our pants on.

Want to revisit what Snowy is up to. WM, please do something that looks village, we have too many people to lynch for what they ARE doing to be able to lynch all the people for what they aren't. Also, mutts I want to reply in more depth to you, but I really appreciated your response. MSU for the love of God post stuff.

 

[WildZoo]

No, I got the message about being redirected to ski, but my action still went through as normal.

I said I like a good story

Thats a bad lynch dubz.

I'm confused about whether or not you read all the posts here

 

[Animal Midwife]

I said I like a good story

See our pm for further clarification.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I feel like you should know how this could be. This feels like feigned ignorance because I can't believe you wouldn't have thought of it. Hell, I'm pretty sure this very discussion has happened before in the last 3 years. If you can remember what some noob ate for lunch before he switched off a vote in 2017, then I think you can remember that the whole issue of what the significance is of innocent child mod confirmation is for convert hunting. People you love convert hunting so much, I know these things stick out to you.

What? I'm 100% sure I was not ever a part of this discussion because I still have my doubts about it being a thing in practice.

Also, a second reading, this looks like you might be casting shade on Coffee before her mod announcement. Which might make sense for nefarious you to do, she is the only cleared villager for the time period before now, which you are questioning

How is it shade? This was also written several hours after her announcement.

for ease of reading, can you mention then in response to the question

Stagg already quoted the reasoning so I assumed it'd be easy enough for others to find without me having to to keep requoting the same thing every three hours.

I said I like a good story

I'm not here to give a good story. An explanation is all I got.

 

[Karabiner13]

@Karabiner13 , info I'd gain from your flip:


Cubs- Initial vote on you D2 was to "see where Mel's vote goes" (post #712). Waffled to you last minute because "It answers questions", which turned out to be "are you pocketing him?". You flipping wolf would look good for him being first on you D2. Also jumping on you D3 instead of saving you also helps his village cred (would be interesting behavior for a bus).
Mel- Obvious reasons are obvious (and a little WIFOM-y).
Mutts- Said she didn't really like the reasoning on the Kara or Moose votes, but voted Kara anyway. Has seemed pretty sketchy to me in general. Kara village flip would make me look into Mutts even more.
Cray- Post #618 said she previously spoke up for Kara but was side-eyeing her now. Then waffled onto Moose to save Kara and break tie. Imo would have looked very bad if Kara is a wolf. She later had several long posts which I didn't read because I didn't have 20 minutes for a single post, but at the time I thought I'd get a lot more info on Cray from a Kara flip.
Lupin- Kara flipping wolf would look pretty bad for Lupin. She's been defending you for a while including moving to Moose to create a tie. Her vote also saved you in D3 lynch. And you voted together D1. If you flipped wolf, I'd mostly likely vote her next.
VMH- I thought she may have been throwing very subtle shade on Moose (posts 813, 818) while seeming to very subtly defend Kara (Posts 816), then hedging on post 825. Seems a bit shady to me either way, but worse if Kara flipped wolf.
BJ- Obvious reasons, BJ more village-y if Kara flips wolf. NAI if KB flips village.
Ski- #366 said Kara was asking about thoughts but not posting her own. Seems to have generally found Kara sketchy. Nothing solid but would feel better about her if Kara flipped wolf.

Also, Moose called you out and said that some of your behavior in this game is similar to when you wolfed with her in Colorado. Considering Moose flipped wolf, that's more reason for me to keep in you in my wolf leans pile.



Additional random points from re-read:

Lupin mentioned the possibility of a vote controller after the phantom MJ vote D2 and Capri later came out and said she didn't have control of her D3 vote. Feels notable.

Post 958: Cray noticed that Lupin had interacted with/mentioned Paws twice and implied Lupin and Paws may have some connection. Paws liked that post. Another notable feeling thing.

Coffee seemed bothered by me making a tie on D2 (906), but then made a 3-way near lynch close on D3.

Apparently horses having a hemoglobin of 154 is normal according to the write-up with the lab. Which I find both cool and ridiculous.

Ok...

I see a ton of if I'm a wolf and one if I'm village. Please tell me what you will gain from me being village because #notawolf

 

[Animal Midwife]

Lynch mutts

 

[Karabiner13]

@Stagg737 also wtf did moose flip wolf? Cause I see village green on her

 

[Karabiner13]

@Melchizedek you've been stuck on me for 3 days and barely looked at anyone else. Either you are a wolf who had decided it's your personal goal to get me lynched (like you did fine dubz one game) or you are a villager who needs to get his head on straight and remove the blinders

What will you get from me flipping village?

 

[Karabiner13]

@Melchizedek you've been stuck on me for 3 days and barely looked at anyone else. Either you are a wolf who had decided it's your personal goal to get me lynched (like you did fine dubz one game) or you are a villager who needs to get his head on straight and remove the blinders

What will you get from me flipping village?

Well 4 days now

 

[Karabiner13]

Well 4 days now

You also dropped off quite a bit yesterday and only came back to half heartedly try to push me

Lynch mel

 

[Karabiner13]

The number one rule that I was taught by dubz is don't make any assumptions about someone's affiliation. I see a lot of you making assumptions and plans for when I'm wolf but I don't see you really considering if I'm village. So, for anyone who thinks I'm wolf, I want to see what you would do if I'm village because otherwise you're going to be disappointed

 

[Karabiner13]

If you think I'd have this much volume as a wolf under suspicion think again. There's a reason I play the outed wolf so much when I wolf. Especially when I'm busy. Right now I'm a pissed off villager who is ****ing tired of defending from stupidity

 

[Karabiner13]

thoughts about the spoiler with ski's death which talk about a pinto (the pie is not a pinto from a quick google search). Either there is a ninja role that disarmed the bomb role and survived, there is a role that has a death avoidance and it was activated by the bomb role, or the bomb role was only for a lynch and was not involved last night. This would mean either a 3rd party involved or there was a second kill attempt last night and it didn't succeed because of a death avoidance. Probably other ways it could play out too

 

[Karabiner13]

also, has anyone else been blocked or anything or are we keeping that stuff to pm?

I had nothing happen to me last night

 

[Karabiner13]

did anyone get any items that gwen made or maybe mod made? I've heard no mention of items except what dubz mentioned today

 

[capri1722]

un-BALE-veable I was post restricted to post with a pun or dad joke today. Y'all better saddle up because I don't FOAL around with my pun business 😉

Liked for the pun
I'm probably gonna be liking all your posts today tbh
I frickin love puns

 

[capri1722]

Oh good SDN is back

To answer about my capri feels, I actually don't see as much of her carefree self here. What originally caught my eye was her hopping on an AM vote D1 which put AM in the lead at the time (I think), granted she passed it off as still being at a point that was during the joke voting stage, but I don't much like the reason she initially attached to it or how quickly she did it after I voted for AM. She did change her vote later but it was with 6 minutes to lynch close and the reasoning she gave for Gwen was, in the words of my notes, "pretty frickin weak." What has continued to bug me is that her tone feels off from her village game and reminds me more of the posts she made in Dogs when she was around.

The fact that her lynch has been available as a counter several days in a row now and it hasn't gone anywhere while villagers get lynched (especially today)...kind of makes me want to stick with it.

I kinda feel like the gingerbread man in this game (WW in general, not just this specific game). Like "you can't lynch me, I'm the gingerbread man!" … until I get eaten by a fox.
Or something like that.

 

[SkiOtter]

and we're going to hear about it for months 🙄

*******
And rightfully so.
*******

 

[PippyPony]

Day 4 Thoroughbred Thursday Lynch Tally

AM (5) - coffeebean, dubz, mutts, meats, cray
Kara (2) - cubs, mel
Mutts (1) - AM
Mel (1) - Kara

9/22 voting
@Animal Midwife you are the early leader!

Lynch close at 9pm CST (11.5 hrs remaining)

 

[PippyPony]

~~~~~
Lol we're actually down to like, a normal sized game

Still... MODS DEMAND MOAR DEATH
~~~~~

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

AM was my contingency 😀

 

[muttmanager]

Mutts- Said she didn't really like the reasoning on the Kara or Moose votes, but voted Kara anyway. Has seemed pretty sketchy to me in general. Kara village flip would make me look into Mutts even more.

This came up, it was an either/or to avoid a tie and I didnt have strong reads on either. MOOSE showed up that day to defendherself. Kara showed up post MOOSE lynch and defended her self. While I think she is becoming "an egg to crack" too, but I think shes going to flip village more so I'm not voting there again

So 3/4 of her top reads are wrong. .

AM is 4/4 on wrong top reads - don't join her

Want to revisit what Snowy is up to. WM, please do something that looks village, we have too many people to lynch for what they ARE doing to be able to lynch all the people for what they aren't. Also, mutts I want to reply in more depth to you, but I really appreciated your response.

No problem, I do agree with some of your points so I look forward to hearing more on them (but I may be traumatized bc I was pocketed by a wolf last game)

 

[muttmanager]

un-BALE-veable I was post restricted to post with a pun or dad joke today. Y'all better saddle up because I don't FOAL around with my pun business 😉

How do you feel about WZ's item claim - in regards to your AM feels?
(I'm here for more puns )

Eta- clarity - not asking for info from your PM but your vouching for AM pretty hard. What if she flips wolf

 

[Animal Midwife]

Guys listen. I was redirected, but my action still worked as normal.

 

[SARdoghandler]

What's the point in me putting reminders in my notes if I forget to read them?? 🙄

@Melchizedek @Crayola227 @SnowshoeDog143 @SARdoghandler Current reads on AM?

Very conflicted. I started collecting quotes in my mod pm on D2 about how she didn't sound village.

I believe your intel tho.

Lynch am

 

[SARdoghandler]

Guys listen. I was redirected, but my action still worked as normal.

Maybe you should explain your "action" then. I don't think anything else is gonna get you out of this

 

[Karabiner13]

Especially when y'all have PM access. Does no one use PM anymore? I am so confused to what I have returned to for sure.

I do and I learned from the best. It's hard though when you have pm partners who don't like to pm. Zigzag and I were pm'ing a lot right up until pips interrupted us with a this pm is closed 🙁

We've had a lot of non-pm'ing games recently

How about now?

cautious village lean

 

[capri1722]

Guys listen. I was redirected, but my action still worked as normal.

Yes I saw that, that's why I'm hesitant to vote for you. I can't figure out the how though. The only thing I'm coming up with is you were planning on targeting Ski anyway.

 

[Karabiner13]

I'm not ignoring this, will come back to it cause I need to go digging further back to reply

ETA: you're right, I never said. mostly vibes and little pings from D1 TBH. I stongly disliked your complete absence D2 and something makes me deeply paranoid about people opening PMs with me and acting very jovial. so there.

I look forward to your re-evaluation of me

Also, you're not the only one to mention the bolded but it is this kind of attitude that is strongly pushing me to consider retiring after this game. Koffee hit it head on when she mentioned if I had gotten lynched D2 when I couldn't be around that I would retire

 

[Karabiner13]

Night 3

It didn’t take long after lights out for the stall shifting to begin again.
Many people seemed to have swarmed to stall 8. Maybe they heard that she had a heated stable blanket. Everyone wants a heated stable blanket.... maybe even enough to kill for it.

Two horses fought for the right. A little pinto seemed to have gotten to it first, leaving pokeweed in the hay and watching her victim go down in respiratory distress.


But the poisoned gelding didn't go down easily!! With his dying breaths, the temperamental gelding lashed out at his assailant, striking both hooves into her face and knocking her to the ground unconscious. He then crumpled to his death as well.

Dead is @SkiOtter - The Pie, Bomb

Also dead is...

Spoiler

wait, the pinto wasn't dead after all. She scraped herself off the stall floor and stumbled back to her stall, shaking her head in discomfort

The Pie's body was found bloodied and torn to shreds in the morning- clearly more than just death by pokeweed. Seems someone else came by a little too late and tried to take him down themselves. Apparently they can't tell a dead horse from a live one.​

Now that I didn't just skim the write-up, I'd say the bold seems to imply more a ninja type role

 

[Karabiner13]

To be clear, I wasnt inferring that she was the pocketer.

But I pretty much agree with the obtainable info for about 2/3 of this post. Also ski is now dead. So....

Lynch Kara... again... maybe this time it goes through? Sorry K&B

interesting. I'd like some original thought from you rather than relying on others reads

so, what are your reads?

 

[WildZoo]

I'm more inclined to think that if a wagon isn't taking off, its because village just isn't buying what you're selling. Compared to a wagon accumulating votes but ultimately someone else getting lynched.

Well if village isn't buying what I'm selling, again, that's why I asked. All I've seen so far is two other people in my wolf pile saying they don't have a read on capri either way.

With the total votes on the main wagons being relatively low I'd expect wolves to be pretty spread out. It just interests me how little interest there has been in capri as another option, keeping that in mind.

Do you think wolves have been saving Kara every day?

 

[WildZoo]

Now that I didn't just skim the write-up, I'd say the bold seems to imply more a ninja type role

I was leaning towards ninja as well

 

[Karabiner13]

AM is 4/4 on wrong top reads - don't join her

but if AM is a villager this doesn't mean anything (not sure what I think about dubz's redirection of am to ski). Villagers are wrong all the time. It's part of the game. So do you have a better reason we shouldn't be voting you?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

What's a ninja role do?

 

[Karabiner13]

Do you think wolves have been saving Kara every day?

whoever thinks I wouldn't just out myself if I was under suspicion and 20 pages behind needs to seriously rethink how I wolf when busy

 

[Karabiner13]

What's a ninja role do?

untrackable and able to disarm a bomb. There are other variations as well

ETA: disarming a bomb means they won't die when normally a person killing a bomb would die with the bomb

 

[WildZoo]

whoever thinks I wouldn't just out myself if I was under suspicion and 20 pages behind needs to seriously rethink how I wolf when busy

I was waiting for you to role reveal as whatever the horse equivalent of Ash is 😉

 

[Karabiner13]

I was waiting for you to role reveal as whatever the horse equivalent of Ash is 😉

and mel doesn't even remember me being a wolf in that game