Infiltrated WW Game Thread

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Caia! Why are you suddenly listening to Kata? Argh.

Well, the deed is done.

Sorry guys - was occupied for more of the day than I had anticipated. At least the end of the game is near, I suppose.

If somehow by some miracle it isn't too late... lynch Kata
 
I'm engaged, bitches! 😀
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CONGRATS! 😀
 
I would like to begin this write up by giving a shout out to all of the dead players, who have been rolling in their grave, knowing exactly who the wolf is immediately after they were converted and started acting "differently." I will give out some awards later, most having to do with the worst luck possible. With that, we enter our write up.
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Kata and Caia had decided, Ceph needed to go. They didn't care what others had said about the bloodhound gang having a wolf in it. They couldn't betray each other.

So, the two of them scoured the city, searching for the poor, naive ceph. It wasn't that hard to find Ceph, as the members of the city had learned to be fearful of both the gangs and the police, and thus gave information to whoever came their way now.

She was in an old, practically abandoned bar, a half drank bottle of whiskey on her left, and a practically finished rocks glass on her right. She heard the door swing open, and didn't even bother to look towards it, knowing exactly who would be greeting her.

"I hope y'all are happy." She hollered over to them. "We could have rid the city of this police hierarchy, of all the undercovers. But no, one of you is an absolute idiot. The other is a backstabbing little..."

"We get it, you claim you aren't a cop. But only one way we are going to know that for sure. The only way we can do it is by..."

"Yes, let's play this game. Let's kill the one person that cannot be an undercover cop. My gang has been clear of undercover cops this whole damned game. We actually vetted each person that joined our ranks, unlike you slobs that would take anyone and everyone. And guess what, it did us in. It did us all in. The one person they couldn't get to was me, and now..... now they can get to me. And get freaking rewarded for it too." Ceph stares off into her glass, picks it up, and throws the rest of the liquid down her gullet.

"You see, that's all well and good." Caia strolled up to the bar stool a couple away from Ceph and sat down. "But we can't verify any of that. All we have is you to verify that. Which you know is just..."

"Are you daft? No honestly. I don't know if you are daft or just the best flipping manipulator out there. The Russians told us that one of you two is a wolf. A non-cop related source. The only thing that we could 100% believe. And instead, you jump on me. The last gang leader, of the last clear gang." I swear, if I had any fight left in me, I would kill you like the others I have killed..." Ceph shakes her head as she pours more whiskey into the rocks glass.

Kata steps up. "Hey, you might as well be drinking it out of the bottle at this point."

"You are just too much of a jokester, now aren't you." Ceph tosses the remainder of the bottle at Kata, which kata quickly side steps, narrowly avoiding it from hitting her head. "Not like I would need that anyway, I will probably be dead before I finish this last bit of sweetness." She raises the glass towards the two of them, and takes a large swig of whiskey. "That's the stuff."

"Hold up a second. How do we know this isn't a trap? That you aren't rigged up to something. That...."

"Because I just don't care. Just like the head of your gang. I just want it done with at this point. The police, the undercovers, They have eroded all the life out of me. Chipping away at my humanity each day. Anything, even death, has to be better than this."

"Well, did you have anything that you wanted to say? Any last words? Kata asked from a distance, clearly skeptical of this situation.

"Well, I have a confession, it wasn't a cop that killed The Druggie...." Ceph paused for a long moment. "It was me. It was an accident. When I am beating people up, I sometimes get carried away and I just threw one too many punches on The Druggie. So that cop, he didn't kill anyone that night. He didn't arrest anyone. it was all m...."

*Bang* *Bang* *Bang*

Caia had fired off three shots, all hitting Ceph squarely in the head. She turned towards She mouthed, "It's you." and crashed her head into the glass she was drinking out of, making the whiskey splatter everywhere.

Caia turned quickly, keeping her weapon aimed on Kata. "Poor, poor fool. I played you like a fiddle. I went and changed the conversation towards you behind the scenes. I made lies out of facts and facts out of lies. So, when I finally brought the conversation away from you, and gave you an alternative to your inevitable doom, you took it right up, now didn't you. It's sad, you were so useful to us. It's too bad the chief's last instruction to us was no one lives." Caia paused, chuckling about the other thing she did tonight. "You see, our wonderful jail, has been rigged with bombs to go off in just a few minutes. Every last inmate will die. If they somehow get out, they will either be shut on contact, or arrested and charged with the bombing of the prison. Do you know how easy it is to frame someone. It's child's play really." Caia is still laughing, even between her words.

"But.... but..... but...... Why?"

"Why is honestly a great reason. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse. You see, I could see the ingeniousness of the police chief. Lying during nights where his agents were inactivated, pretending like nothing was happening when everything important happened that night. He was a clever man. His death was well, a tragedy. But, his legacy lives on. Not through what he has done. But through me. After all of my hardwork, I will have the power to transfer to other undercover work in other cities. To infiltrate their gangs. Rid their cities of the scum. And let the cycle continue."

"But you were a gang member at heart. How could you turn to the...?"

"A gang member at heart. Ha. Those stupid Mexicans wanted nothing to do with me after I got arrested. The only reason The BloodHound gang recruited me is because they are desperate little punk kids that literally don't know what to do with themselves. Did you know the hierarchy of that gang began with one person when all of this undercover work started. It wasn't even worth it to do anything with that gang. It was pathetic. These gangs were a disgrace to all gangs out there, and really, the police was doing everyone a service here by..."

Caia had become so wrapped up in what she was saying that she had peered away from Kata for just a second too long. Kata had whipped her weapon out and fired it in the direction of Caia. Caia dived to her left while simultaneously firing off a round in the direction of Kata. Glass shatted to the right of Kata, and Kata took cover by the edge of bar.

"You know, it's really a pity that you are going to have to die. But, you are forgetting about one thing...." Caia fired several shots towards the area behind the bar, and alcohol started spilling everywhere. "You are forgetting to use your environment to your advantage." She shot a round right besides where Kata was, causing her to shrink into her cover more, while she simultaneously uncapped the lighter, leaving no sound of the lighter. The flame was burning as she threw it towards the uncapped alcohol. "This is game over, bitch." She sprinted towards the front door as the flame erupted up into the air, engulfing the side of the bar Kata was on within a second.

Three seconds later, there was a loud explosion. Caia was thrown onto the ground outside of the bar, and was greeted by a large group of officers. "I think we won't be seeing from her again. The city is free once more. Without the gang hierarchies, the gangs will all dissolve. We will "arrest," or at least try to..." All the officers around her laugh. " all of the low men in the gangs. It will be quick work. Then, and only then, will we tackle the next city in this county. And the next city. And then the state will be cleared. And then the country. And then...." Caia paused.... "Well, then we can maybe finally rest." She cracks a smile.

A man approaches her from the crowd, a man about 6'4", who had a very strong built and had muscles that jutted out from his police man's uniform.

"Caia.... What you have done here today. It's why I love you. It's just everything about you. And I know you are focused on saving the city, this country, this state, and this country, but I was wondering if you would have time for possibly one more thing..."

The man went and kneeled down onto one knee, and revealed a jewelery box from the pocket by his holster. He snapped it open, revealing a beautiful sapphire stone and an ornate ring below it.

"Will you marr...."

"Yes, yes, a thousand times yes."

Just goes to show you that even wolves can find love in this crazy world 😛

Wolves (COPS) Win!

AWARD SECTION:

Worst luck goes to: SoV

Okay, WZ would have been dead following nights 1, 2, or 3 if it weren't for some pretty damned bad luck. On all three nights, she did the arrests, and all three nights, SoV originally had in to follow her. On one of those nights, he got blocked when there was a 50% chance he could have been supercharged. On another of those nights, he got straight up blocked. On the third night, he waffled last second, causing him to miss her actions yet again.

Most unfortunate waffles goes to: Ashgirl

She had won it for the villagers. The game was in the bag 4 nights ago. She had redirected Caiter to Caia, when Caiter was both attacking and killing, which would have resulted in Caia's death and Caiter being revealed as a wolf, ending the game. With 20 minutes left in the night, she waffled to seering Caiter instead, which almost ended up clearing the lone unseerable wolf in the game (which to be fair, Ashgirl was warned about in her description that there would be 1 unseerable).

Most obvious goes to: WZ

Okay, so sometimes "obvious" play becomes not obvious when you are a highly revered player. But she literally did repeatedly the most obvious thing possible. She recruited MJ right off the bat, the person you would most associate with WZ. Then when she got wind of someone who could arm people with guns only, and whose deaths would show up as guns, she recruited them, even though she knew it would be a flawed tactic. Then she ended it by recruiting the most obvious person to convert left in the game. Somehow, it all worked in the end.

Best luck goes to: Wolves

I had counted the wolves out after night 6 or 7. They made a few very early, what I thought were, mistakes (or at least very obvious moves). They kept killing off key players just when they were doing important moves. They would always just skate by in a lynch, and everyone would forget about them afterwards and not ask more questions. On the night of each of their deaths, not a single person decided to block them, and they kept getting kills they shouldn't have from that aspect. Even the wolves were all baffled at the end when Caia somehow skated by lynch, after lynch, after lynch.


Biggest waster of a role: FS

FS had the ability to cause some true chaos this game. They could mess up wolves and villagers a whole lot this game. They could give misinformation to the wolves, causing them to waste nights on killing. They could provide info to the wolves in exchange for literally anything he wanted. If he wanted a brand new car, protection, any of their powers, etc. he could have it. He didn't use his role until night 11 or sometime super late if I recall correctly. He did manage to nab a lynch avoidance (which was taken from Caiter), but decided to not negotiate for deals the day after, in which he could have gotten night kill avoidances (which the wolves did have).

MVP: Trilt

I do have to say that Trilt was on point so much this game. Even when dead, she did a pretty good job figuring out who all the wolves are.

Biggest Trooper: Swin

Swin had literally a gang of 1 at the beginning of the game. It was herself. She kept getting herself blocked, or other gangs blocked her, etc. She still stuck in there and built her gang up. Unfortunately, wolves ended up converting Caia after she was already recruited in her gang, which led to the inevitable destruction of her gang.

Feel free to ask any questions about mechanisms and I will answer them in the morning. It was all pretty basic. 5 wolves total, 3 of which were converts, 1 that had to be converted by night 3, 1 by night 7, and the last one had no limit. Converts could not be blocked, could be done with kills, but could be redirected. Neutral and chaos could win with either side. And there were a ton of question askers, and blockers and tracking abilities in the game.
 
Finally!

Kam I'm so sorry for the **** storm that I caused you. I was still a villager when I gave you the gun originally, but got converted the night you used it. I didn't want to say anything at all to draw attention to me.

And was it DVMD that roasted DocE? That was by far my favorite kill this game.
Thanks for the good game STL!
 
Even when dead, she did a pretty good job figuring out who all the wolves are.

Read: when you ****ers (I say that lovingly, I honestly can't even be grumpy about the wolves this game) killed me, STL was forced to deal with my ridiculous psychedelic cat gifs and wild - usually wrong - theories all alone, haha.

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I adored this game, STL. Thanks so much for running it!
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Thanks so much for the game, STL. And thank you to Lupin, hmoo and BI for helping run it.

Having fun people to collaborate with makes these games for me, so having recruitable groups is always one of my favourite mechanics. El Capo, @thedrjojo, BHG, the wolves, I really enjoyed all very much. @Jilary - I really do enjoy working with you, that wasn't at all a lie, I hope you know that.

But I don't think I've had a game cause me so much irl stress. The unfortunate part is that I really wasn't exaggerating the problems that were going on at all and the wolves and mods have a good idea of the rollercoaster ride that it was for me. There were so many times I wished the villagers would just end it and be set on lynching me because things got really tough on my end.

I very reluctantly agreed to take a semi-permanent break from WW and I'm so sad because I don't want to, but it's really important to him that I give it up.

So again, thanks for being so wonderful, I really love playing with you all.

Now I have to get to work on making my sister play so I can live vicariously through her. :laugh:
 
Thanks for the game, mods 😀
Most obvious goes to: WZ

Okay, so sometimes "obvious" play becomes not obvious when you are a highly revered player. But she literally did repeatedly the most obvious thing possible. She recruited MJ right off the bat, the person you would most associate with WZ. Then when she got wind of someone who could arm people with guns only, and whose deaths would show up as guns, she recruited them, even though she knew it would be a flawed tactic. Then she ended it by recruiting the most obvious person to convert left in the game. Somehow, it all worked in the end.
Clearly I am a genius. Or an idiot. One of those 😛
 
When ash started throwing out suspicion for me, I knew I couldn't convince Ceph that Caia was really the wolf. And I just wanted it over.

Thanks for the game. But I'm glad it's over.
 
I feel like going through and quoting every post from caia that made it insanely obvious she was a wolf. Maybe at some point today I will. Just a good indication if you didn't pick it up in the things she stated but the sudden and very obvious change in her game play was another massive hint.
Anyway, that is all. Good game. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention at the beginning.
 
Been fun, but all gangstas die in the end. STL be da cholo driven while I creepily sat in the passenger seat, no one knowing quite why I was there. Good job on getting to the end of this crazy ass complicated game.

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I was so mad when you guys switched to Ceph completely forgetting about the wolf in bhg, and I was pretty sure ash was wrong the other day and the converted wolf was either swin or Caia, not kata. So much could have been avoided if villagers had been more honest at the end. I also wish I hadn't gotten further clarification from the mods when I was lynched, because Caia was so close to going down with me.
 
I feel like going through and quoting every post from caia that made it insanely obvious she was a wolf. Maybe at some point today I will. Just a good indication if you didn't pick it up in the things she stated but the sudden and very obvious change in her game play was another massive hint.
Anyway, that is all. Good game. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention at the beginning.

I think if people want to go back and read now that they know, they are free to do that.

Obviously do what you want, but trying to make a lesson out of it I don't agree with unless someone comes to you seeking it.
 
Villagers end game are usually not invested as much as the wolf/wolves, so I think that gives evil a distinct advantage. Stamina is quite the asset in these games as well as being able to really remember the little details that would have netted Caia. She played them well and I panicked a moment when she first lynched kata because she was more likely to get Kata to vote with her going for cpod. But she did and she took it home.


You all did well sorting through the chaos and props to STL for finishing out the game when there was so much to keep track of.
 
I think if people want to go back and read now that they know, they are free to do that.

Obviously do what you want, but trying to make a lesson out of it I don't agree with unless someone comes to you seeking it.

Who said I'm trying to make a lesson out of anything?

And what does it matter to you anyway? The game is over. I'm not doing anything bad, rude or mean and quite honestly I find your comment to be quite rude. Pointing out things that occurred in the game once it ends is normal and happens at the end of every game.
 
Who said I'm trying to make a lesson out of anything?

And what does it matter to you anyway? The game is over. I'm not doing anything bad, rude or mean and quite honestly I find your comment to be quite rude. Pointing out things that occurred in the game once it ends is normal and happens at the end of every game.

Going through one player's posts and pointing out things that were "insanely obvious" or a "massive hint" is incredibly condescending. Why else would you put that effort in if not to try and teach the people that didn't notice like you did? I never said anything about being bad or mean, I said I disagreed with it.

It's making an analysis of my play for those that didn't pick up on it. It would be different if you were pointing out various things in the game, but you centered on only me in that post. I'm only asking that you keep it to yourself unless someone seeks it out.
 
Going through one player's posts and pointing out things that were "insanely obvious" or a "massive hint" is incredibly condescending. Why else would you put that effort in if not to try and teach the people that didn't notice like you did? I never said anything about being bad or mean, I said I disagreed with it.

It's making an analysis of my play for those that didn't pick up on it. It would be different if you were pointing out various things in the game, but you centered that on only me in that post. I'm only asking that you keep it to yourself unless someone seeks it out.

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Believe it or not, it isn't all about you. It is more directed to the villagers still alive at that point. Sure it was obvious you were a wolf but you managed to make it work. It is the villagers who had the bad play of not picking up on it. It isn't about you. But forget it, you get way the hell too worked up. Besides the point that I said MAY do it, if I have time. But forget it, you're clearly way too upset over nothing.
 
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Believe it or not, it isn't all about you. It is more directed to the villagers still alive at that point. Sure it was obvious you were a wolf but you managed to make it work. It is the villagers who had the bad play of not picking up on it. It isn't about you. But forget it, you get way the hell too worked up. Besides the point that I said MAY do it, if I have time. But forget it, you're clearly way too upset over nothing.

Yes, I know it was obviously directed at the villagers. If you don't understand why I (or the villagers) wouldn't appreciate you doing that then fine, I'm not going to argue about it.
 
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I think it's much more easy to figure these things out when you're dead and no longer as emotionally invested. I didn't think Caia started playing particularly obviously different, but that's quite possibly me just being obtuse.
 
I think it's much more easy to figure these things out when you're dead and no longer as emotionally invested. I didn't think Caia started playing particularly obviously different, but that's quite possibly me just being obtuse.
she was way more active this game than she usually is. It's a tell. Plus there were other red flags.

I'm disappointed that like 3 dying villagers said it's swin or caia and then no one lynched caia :laugh:
 
she was way more active this game than she usually is. It's a tell. Plus there were other red flags.

I'm disappointed that like 3 dying villagers said it's swin or caia and then no one lynched caia :laugh:
I haven't played with her much, but to me she seemed about as active as she was vs. DocE last game.

@SummerTheLynx - was there more to druggie chat people than just being lowest rank? Curious about the nights I wasn't in it.
 
Yes, I know it was obviously directed at the villagers. If you don't understand why I (or the villagers) wouldn't appreciate you doing that then fine, I'm not going to argue about it.

Only speak for yourself. It is rude to speak for others.

Other than that, not going to say anything else related to this.
 
I haven't played with her much, but to me she seemed about as active as she was vs. DocE last game.

@SummerTheLynx - was there more to druggie chat people than just being lowest rank? Curious about the nights I wasn't in it.
she doesn't normally post as often per day.
 
Bahaha. I thought for sure I'd get MVP for bad luck. Glad someone else was just as frustrated as me, SOV! I think I told STL every day I saw him that I wanted to lynch Caia but I didn't know if it was because I thought you were a wolf or just because you talked too fast! 😉
 
You're seriously going to be intentionally insulting now? Wow, I get that you're emotional about this, but there is such a thing as taking it too far.

I'm done with this convo, if you really want to discuss further you can PM me.

Reply to this or don't, but I think our opposing views on this are important for people to consider how they want to handle end of game commentary.

I'm frustrated that you don't understand why people might not want their specific mistakes lined up in a row by you, and I'm talking from the perspective of a villager here because I'm trying to address this for games as a whole, not just this one. I think it is fine to offer for those that want to learn, but it only serves to make people feel worse about what they missed otherwise and I don't think it needs to be out there to make them feel that way unless they want it to be.

I would not like it if you took a game I had played early on as a villager and lost and systematically reviewed all of the things I missed that were so obvious to you without invitation.

That is why I said I disagreed with you posting that but that it was fine if people actually sought it out.

My default on this is that there should be demonstrated interest first as it would be a more courteous route. That is all.

So if we disagree on that level of courtesy, then OK. But I thought it was worth considering.
 
Reply to this or don't, but I think our opposing views on this are important for people to consider how they want to handle end of game commentary.

I'm frustrated that you don't understand why people might not want their specific mistakes lined up in a row by you, and I'm talking from the perspective of a villager here because I'm trying to address this for games as a whole, not just this one. I think it is fine to offer for those that want to learn, but it only serves to make people feel worse about what they missed otherwise and I don't think it needs to be out there to make them feel that way unless they want it to be.

I would not like it if you took a game I had played early on as a villager and lost and systematically reviewed all of the things I missed that were so obvious to you without invitation.

That is why I said I disagreed with you posting that but that it was fine if people actually sought it out.

My default on this is that there should be demonstrated interest first as it would be a more courteous route. That is all.

So if we disagree on that level of courtesy, then OK. But I thought it was worth considering.

I'm not even going to post anything anymore because you are throwing a fit.

People post things all the time like that at game end, it isn't meant to be condescending or rude in ANY way, you are just being emotional about it.

Heck, I'm still waiting for DocE to come blazing in and tell me I was a complete idiot to kill him. And guess what, he'd be right. I was busy, not thinking clearly and acted too quickly. I was also an idiot to use cocaine on MJ, yes I may have blocked him and that would have been good, but the 50% enhancement was too high of a chance. Again, I was not thinking and really expecting that he'd be blocked since that was the result I got most often.

The point in having the commentary isn't to make people feel bad, it is to re look at the game to see what occurred that maybe shouldn't have. That is all. It isn't condescending, rude, mean or meant as an attack as you are taking it to be. You are being overly sensitive about it. I understand that you had other things going on IRL too and I'm sorry to hear that and truly hope things are going better, but I think that emotion is spilling over here.

Having said that, I won't post anything because it is clear it'll just upset you. And I don't really want to make anyone upset.
 
I'm not even going to post anything anymore because you are throwing a fit.

People post things all the time like that at game end, it isn't meant to be condescending or rude in ANY way, you are just being emotional about it.

Heck, I'm still waiting for DocE to come blazing in and tell me I was a complete idiot to kill him. And guess what, he'd be right. I was busy, not thinking clearly and acted too quickly. I was also an idiot to use cocaine on MJ, yes I may have blocked him and that would have been good, but the 50% enhancement was too high of a chance. Again, I was not thinking and really expecting that he'd be blocked since that was the result I got most often.

The point in having the commentary isn't to make people feel bad, it is to re look at the game to see what occurred that maybe shouldn't have. That is all. It isn't condescending, rude, mean or meant as an attack as you are taking it to be. You are being overly sensitive about it. I understand that you had other things going on IRL too and I'm sorry to hear that and truly hope things are going better, but I think that emotion is spilling over here.

Having said that, I won't post anything because it is clear it'll just upset you. And I don't really want to make anyone upset.

I don't think I'm throwing a fit...:shrug: Maybe I'm not communicating as effectively as I should be. I'm sorry if I'm coming off harsh, I really don't mean to.

I guess I see a review of one particular aspect of play to be a more harsh way of pointing out mistakes than a few things picked out here and there.

And I mostly just feel bad that I got away with a lot of what I did. Hell, I feel bad winning as a wolf even when it could be seen as less obvious. Maybe that's cause I feel guilty manipulating people, I'm not sure.

I could be overprotective of their feelings.

And I'm sorry for any insults. I don't have a filter when I get frustrated and that's my fault.
 
And I'm sorry for any insults. I don't have a filter when I get frustrated and that's my fault.

Neither do I. 😉

No hard feelings here.

You just need to adopt the wolf personality is all. Be like, yup, I killed all them villagers. 🙂

Anyway, not going to post anything. It was a maybe anyway because I have way more things to do today anyway, so likely wasn't even going to happen.
 
Well dang. Caia, you had me fooled. Kata, I'm sorry I doubted you. :laugh:
Good game, all! Mods, thanks for being awesome per usual. :biglove: I liked the gang and PM-ing elements, I thought that was an interesting twist.
 
I'm also frustrated that if stl hadn't thought Caia wasn't voting to lynch me the other day, she likely would have been the one I took out. That's some bad luck for the villagers.
But wasn't the last thing you said about Caia that you were pretty sure she wasn't a wolf?
 
Hey @SummerTheLynx what was up with the magical extra kill or whatever that Caiter got? You may have already told us but it was post-death for me so I don't remember.
The one from LIS dying? The extra kill was from The Torpedo, which could kill twice throughout the game. He used one of his up to take out FS, and had one remaining for Caiter.
 
The one from LIS dying? The extra kill was from The Torpedo, which could kill twice throughout the game. He used one of his up to take out FS, and had one remaining for Caiter.
Oh, is that what happened, she inherited it from LIS? Gotcha. My ability to attempt to comprehend what was going on plummeted when I died.
 
But wasn't the last thing you said about Caia that you were pretty sure she wasn't a wolf?
Yeah, she originally had submitted to take out Swin and that should have been it at that point (but then I said something that in retrospect, I shouldn't have). Then she said that she would take out Caia, but she wanted me to make it clear in write up that she really didn't want to. Then she switched back to Swin b/c she really didn't think it was Caia.
 
But wasn't the last thing you said about Caia that you were pretty sure she wasn't a wolf?
I did think swin was the wolf of the three of us, because obviously I knew it wasn't me and Caia had agreed to let me kill her if swin didn't vote for me. There was some confusion in the pm between STL and I, and I had agreed to take Caia out instead, and he told me I couldn't because she hadn't voted to lynch me, even though she had. So if he had seen that she had voted to lynch me, the game would have been over right then.
 
I haven't played with her much, but to me she seemed about as active as she was vs. DocE last game.

@SummerTheLynx - was there more to druggie chat people than just being lowest rank? Curious about the nights I wasn't in it.

Nothing more except that I got to interact with those gang members.
 
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