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Zensing said:
As I recall, Caia was #2, PBC was #3, and LotF was #1. So, likely the original #4 is a wolf.

Speaking of rankings... mods, do we get a clue as to rocky's place in the Russian gang hierarchy?
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Thank god for someone paying attention. Are you sure about those rankings?
 
Trilt said:
I find it fairly far-fetched that the biggest group doesn't have a wolf in a game called infiltrated. Also been a couple nudges at that in the write-ups, although of course they could just be my interpretation.

I've also been saying we have one for a couple days, and suggesting that we kill within the group so that this didn't happen - wolves picking off all the villager numbers without us getting a chance to possibly hit back. Lo and behold, here we are with like 1/3 of our group dead and no closer to figuring out who the freaking snitch is.



Can you ask how many are in other groups, or just yours? The name of our group is public knowledge now, if you can ask about us specifically that'd be really freaking great.
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Gang as a whole can ask 2 questions total. Last night was our first. We're probably going to wait on our second question (preferably until we've found our wolf), but any final answers need to come from the gang discussion tonight.
 
Zensing said:
Gang as a whole can ask 2 questions total. Last night was our first. We're probably going to wait on our second question (preferably until we've found our wolf), but any final answers need to come from the gang discussion tonight.
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Damn. That's fair, the second question will be more important down the line.
 
WildZoo said:
We weren't told what ability each rank gets.


That would make a lot of sense...but I don't know who was next in line behind her.

Wasn't someone's rank mentioned in a previous writeup? I know lotf's was, but wasn't there another one as well? Seems weird that Caia's wasn't.
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From the write-ups I gathered that Gwen was 9th, PBC was 3rd, and Lotf was 1st. @Zensing, how did you know Caia was 2nd? I must have missed that.
 
Stb1473 said:
From the write-ups I gathered that Gwen was 9th, PBC was 3rd, and Lotf was 1st. @Zensing, how did you know Caia was 2nd? I must have missed that.
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I just went back and checked. You are correct - PBC and LotF were explicitly stated to be 3rd and 1st, respectively, while Caia's ranking was not given. I assumed Caia was 2nd considering the mods talked about how 1 more arrest would effectively dismantle the gang.

One thing to consider is that the write-up definitely said that the police had access to that gang's records after Caia died. You might want to investigate who inherited Caia's role.

@StartingoverVet, @WildZoo, were either of you told about consequences for losing your 4 members? I'm trying to figure out if the chief's talk of "dismantling" is flavor or reflects in-game consequences.
 
Zensing said:
I just went back and checked. You are correct - PBC and LotF were explicitly stated to be 3rd and 1st, respectively, while Caia's ranking was not given. I assumed Caia was 2nd considering the mods talked about how 1 more arrest would effectively dismantle the gang.

One thing to consider is that the write-up definitely said that the police had access to that gang's records after Caia died. You might want to investigate who inherited Caia's role.

@StartingoverVet, @WildZoo, were either of you told about consequences for losing your 4 members? I'm trying to figure out if the chief's talk of "dismantling" is flavor or reflects in-game consequences.
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The whole group (suspected wolf included) got access to Caia's records when she died - that was the mechanism of her role.
 
Zensing said:
@StartingoverVet, @WildZoo, were either of you told about consequences for losing your 4 members? I'm trying to figure out if the chief's talk of "dismantling" is flavor or reflects in-game consequences.
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Nope. But STL hinted that it mattered to some people's roles that we were not number 1 anymore.
It didn't matter to mine though, so not sure what that is about.
 
Zensing said:
@StartingoverVet, @WildZoo, were either of you told about consequences for losing your 4 members? I'm trying to figure out if the chief's talk of "dismantling" is flavor or reflects in-game consequences.
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It was implied that it affected some of us directly that we were no longer the largest group, but I have no idea what those effects were. I think it also affected our group ability.
 
With the info on MJ from today, plus the abnormalities from earlier days I'm going to have to go with ##lynch madjack## for now.
 
Zensing said:
I just went back and checked. You are correct - PBC and LotF were explicitly stated to be 3rd and 1st, respectively, while Caia's ranking was not given. I assumed Caia was 2nd considering the mods talked about how 1 more arrest would effectively dismantle the gang.

One thing to consider is that the write-up definitely said that the police had access to that gang's records after Caia died. You might want to investigate who inherited Caia's role.

@StartingoverVet, @WildZoo, were either of you told about consequences for losing your 4 members? I'm trying to figure out if the chief's talk of "dismantling" is flavor or reflects in-game consequences.
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The "one more arrest" may have been referring to the fact that we would no longer be the largest gang, not necessarily the ranks of the members we had lost.

Trilt is correct though, when Caia died we all got her records, so that was probably what the writeup was referring to there, may have nothing to do with whoever inherited her role.
 
WildZoo said:
The "one more arrest" may have been referring to the fact that we would no longer be the largest gang, not necessarily the ranks of the members we had lost.

Trilt is correct though, when Caia died we all got her records, so that was probably what the writeup was referring to there, may have nothing to do with whoever inherited her role.
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Knowing this now, I agree its less likely that the wolf was a rank below Caia. But it does make it sound even more convincing that there is at least one wolf in your gang. They just inherited all the info with the rest of you guys.
 
Stb1473 said:
Knowing this now, I agree its less likely that the wolf was a rank below Caia. But it does make it sound even more convincing that there is at least one wolf in your gang. They just inherited all the info with the rest of you guys.
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What makes you think it is "less likely" that a wolf is in the rank below Caia? I am honestly curious. And we don't even know what rank Caia was, she could have been the lowest rank, which then would make sense as to why the entire gang received her info. But I don't think we can draw conclusions from "the whole gang got Caia's info, therefore the wolf is likely not a rank below her", it simply doesn't correlate, at all.
 
DVMDream said:
What makes you think it is "less likely" that a wolf is in the rank below Caia? I am honestly curious. And we don't even know what rank Caia was, she could have been the lowest rank, which then would make sense as to why the entire gang received her info. But I don't think we can draw conclusions from "the whole gang got Caia's info, therefore the wolf is likely not a rank below her", it simply doesn't correlate, at all.
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The write-up indicated that the police/wolves got all of her info after she was arrested. I originally assumed this meant that the person directly below her in rank was a wolf/inherited her ability. But now that we've been told the whole group got Caia's info, my first theory no longer makes sense. I didn't mean that it was less likely than all the other rankings now - just that it throws my first theory out the window. I think it could still be true but the wolf could be in other rankings as well. I didn't mean to confuse anyone with that statement.
 
Stb1473 said:
Knowing this now, I agree its less likely that the wolf was a rank below Caia. But it does make it sound even more convincing that there is at least one wolf in your gang. They just inherited all the info with the rest of you guys.
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Her records didn't give out rank info but there was ability info. So they would have known lotf's ability, for instance, because Caia had results on her. It was also how sobsob knew who had given kam a gun. But I don't think it makes it any less likely that the wolf was ranked below her - it just means it's not necessarily the person who inherited her role. Still could be. But we have no idea who that was anyway.

The abilities also don't seem to necessarily line up with rank in terms of usefulness.
 
WildZoo said:
Her records didn't give out rank info but there was ability info. So they would have known lotf's ability, for instance, because Caia had results on her. It was also how sobsob knew who had given kam a gun. But I don't think it makes it any less likely that the wolf was ranked below her - it just means it's not necessarily the person who inherited her role. Still could be. But we have no idea who that was anyway.
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This is what I was trying to say but wasn't explaining myself properly.
 
I'm not the only person that's been recruited this game. There's 15 recruitable players. And four blockers, if that's any help to anyone.
 
Mad Jack said:
I'm not the only person that's been recruited this game. There's 15 recruitable players. And four blockers, if that's any help to anyone.
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15? How'd you come up with that number?

If Gwen was 9th in command in the largest gang, they had at least 9 members. There were 4 gangs so if one had 9 to start, lost 3 and was no longer in first, that means the next largest gang had at least 6 but likely 7 members. That's 15 people already in gangs. Game started with 35 players, with around 15 in the 2 largest gangs, leaves 20 for the other 2 gangs plus the rest of us. If the other 2 gangs started out tiny, with 3 or less members then maybe that works. Nowhere in my description does it mention that I'm recruitable (though that could just be variability in description), but I'm not affiliated with any gang so maybe there are a couple of tiny ones.

Seems like a lot more than I was expecting to be unaffiliated. Not saying it's wrong, but changes my perspective a bit.

4 blockers? As in 4 players who can block or 4 blocking mechanisms in play? Does that include the night cancelling action?
 
I don't want to lynch MJ... but I kind of feel like I have to right now.

We know that there a wolf that has been recruited. We know there is a wolf in the Russian gang. Even though there are of course other people who fit those descriptions, we know that MJ fits both categories which increases the likelihood that he is a wolf. As far as I can tell this beats the reasoning we have for lynching anybody else.

Although I do think there's probably a wolf in the El Capos... we don't seem to have anything point to which of them it may be.

So I'm going to reluctantly vote to

Lynch MJ
 
Lynch MJ

For Zen's info, the "you are a villager" addition, and the fact that I don't mind losing a blocker if we're wrong.

If it helps anyone in El Capo sort out the mess they're in....

Trilt only interacted with one person last night, so knowing her ability, she's not the one who killed LotF. Not likely the wolves would have their El Capo mole do the killing of course (if they can help it), but I'd also suspect each wolf may have a second ability, and Trilt's reads very villager to me.

The night before last, SOV was the only person to interact with LotF. I don't know either of their abilities, so those who do may be better able to sort out what that means.
 
I just want to say if MJ is a converted wolf, the wolves are really insane. I mean, the guy is converted all the time. least likely to make it to endgame ever.

Not saying he isn't, cause clearly, he gets converted a lot, but SMH if he is AGAIN.
 
StartingoverVet said:
I just want to say if MJ is a converted wolf, the wolves are really insane. I mean, the guy is converted all the time. least likely to make it to endgame ever.

Not saying he isn't, cause clearly, he gets converted a lot, but SMH if he is AGAIN.
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The thinking is that MJ is a wolf who started unaffiliated and was recruited to a gang, not an original villager who was converted to a wolf. Not sure if what you're saying is outside of that, but just to clarify.
 
kcoughli said:
15? How'd you come up with that number?

If Gwen was 9th in command in the largest gang, they had at least 9 members. There were 4 gangs so if one had 9 to start, lost 3 and was no longer in first, that means the next largest gang had at least 6 but likely 7 members. That's 15 people already in gangs. Game started with 35 players, with around 15 in the 2 largest gangs, leaves 20 for the other 2 gangs plus the rest of us. If the other 2 gangs started out tiny, with 3 or less members then maybe that works. Nowhere in my description does it mention that I'm recruitable (though that could just be variability in description), but I'm not affiliated with any gang so maybe there are a couple of tiny ones.

Seems like a lot more than I was expecting to be unaffiliated. Not saying it's wrong, but changes my perspective a bit.
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Eh, I think it could work. Don't forget that the 2nd largest group had likely been recruiting players each night so I doubt they started with 6. If everyone not in a gang is recruitable (which probably includes some wolves), 15 doesn't sound too high. 35 players minus 15 recruitables, we're left with 20. At least 9 in the largest gang - 11 players. That leaves 3-4ish players per gang for the remaining three groups. If a gang started with 4 they could have gotten to 6 or 7 by the time the first group was no longer #1. If there are some non-recruitable players out there then the 15 number would sound too high. Also, no idea where MJ got that number.

ETA: Not sure if Hayley would have been recruitable or not but that still leaves 10 players for the remaining 3 groups which is still 3-4 per group.
 
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Stb1473 said:
Eh, I think it could work. Don't forget that the 2nd largest group had likely been recruiting players each night so I doubt they started with 6. If everyone not in a gang is recruitable (which probably includes some wolves), 15 doesn't sound too high. 35 players minus 15 recruitables, we're left with 20. At least 9 in the largest gang - 11 players. That leaves 3-4ish players per gang for the remaining three groups. If a gang started with 4 they could have gotten to 6 or 7 by the time the first group was no longer #1. If there are some non-recruitable players out there then the 15 number would sound too high. Also, no idea where MJ got that number.
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I forgot about recruiting. So yeah that math makes even more sense, it just seemed crazy that one gang would start with 9 and the others with like 3 or 4. I feel very much in the "I have no idea what's happening with this game" category not being in a gang 😛
 
kcoughli said:
15? How'd you come up with that number?

If Gwen was 9th in command in the largest gang, they had at least 9 members. There were 4 gangs so if one had 9 to start, lost 3 and was no longer in first, that means the next largest gang had at least 6 but likely 7 members. That's 15 people already in gangs. Game started with 35 players, with around 15 in the 2 largest gangs, leaves 20 for the other 2 gangs plus the rest of us. If the other 2 gangs started out tiny, with 3 or less members then maybe that works. Nowhere in my description does it mention that I'm recruitable (though that could just be variability in description), but I'm not affiliated with any gang so maybe there are a couple of tiny ones.

Seems like a lot more than I was expecting to be unaffiliated. Not saying it's wrong, but changes my perspective a bit.

4 blockers? As in 4 players who can block or 4 blocking mechanisms in play? Does that include the night cancelling action?
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There are definitely four blockers or blocking mechanism. I'm a blocker and haven't used my ability for a few nights, but I've been double blocked two nights in a row, and trilt was blocked the night before last.

Some of the gangs are smaller and others are larger- the 15 estimate came from another player crunching the numbers with what she'd gathered, I don't know how accurate it is. But there's a lot of recruitment that is going on- hell, my gang can recruit two people tonight.
 
unlynch WZ

not convinced on her.
not convinced on trilt.

I'm ok with the MJ lynch, but am tired of our group being the kicking post. Not that finding a wolf will help.

lynch teep

sketchy dangerous role.
 
kcoughli said:
I forgot about recruiting. So yeah that math makes even more sense, it just seemed crazy that one gang would start with 9 and the others with like 3 or 4. I feel very much in the "I have no idea what's happening with this game" category not being in a gang 😛
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We actually started with 10
 
finnickthedog said:
Who suggested he was a convert?
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There's no way I was an original. Not only was I the prostitute role, which really doesn't really ring wolfy, but I've had like 8 people all up in my *** every night since night two. Somebody's got to have checked in on me, this is riggoddamndiculous.

Edited to remove connotation that could be viewed as sexual but was definately not meant to be. Even though I'm the prostitute. And it would fit.
 
Mad Jack said:
There are definitely four blockers or blocking mechanism. I'm a blocker and haven't used my ability for a few nights, but I've been double blocked two nights in a row, and trilt was blocked the night before last.

Some of the gangs are smaller and others are larger- the 15 estimate came from another player crunching the numbers with what she'd gathered, I don't know how accurate it is. But there's a lot of recruitment that is going on- hell, my gang can recruit two people tonight.
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Trilt was blocked the night before last? Can you clarify what makes you say this?
 
Meaning she PM'd with you last night?

Because if that's the case, it changes a few things....
 
Kam325 said:
Meaning she PM'd with you last night?

Because if that's the case, it changes a few things....
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We're in the same day chat. And we've both ended up in the druggie chat every night for the last four nights lol.
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Still not making sense to me, because Trilt used an ability on me the night before last, and I'm not sure how she'd do that while blocked.
 
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