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genny said:
Yes, I am aware of that. I am hoping to attract additional pressure, as I do not have multiple votes to use. I think it's in our best interest to have more than one leading candidate while lynch deadline is still several hours away, as it puts pressure on more than one person to say something. If Hayley doesn't show up until 30 minutes before deadline with a great defense, and everyone has piled on her, then it's just a scramble to figure out who else to vote for. Maybe the last-minute craziness is unavoidable, but I'm at least trying to think about a way around it.
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I agree with this so much. Multiple candidates instead of everyone piling on one person and then the lynch wagon just hopping from person the person. Gives us more information for future days as well.
 
I'm villager and I'm freaking stoked about my role. Don't lynch me, please.

Plus biochem is over (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and I have all next week off from work. I have time and energy to dedicate to the villager cause, y'all!
 
I will say that the "villager gnome" role name for Hayley seems odd to me at the moment, so I'll be keeping that in the back of my mind.

Caiter said I could change our vote if I had someone better in mind but I'm actually OK with the Kam vote for now. Not a fan of the bandwagon hopping.
 
LetItSnow said:
Meh. I am all in favor of leaning on people - we all know that - but this is PARTLY how we end up with the stupid "omg there are five minutes to go and we don't know who to lynch situations" when everyone piles up on someone, and then that person defends and everyone jumps to someone else, and they defend, etc.

At some point it's better just to decide who you think is scummy and go with it.

The pre-vet gang is too NICE. As soon as someone says "oh please don't lynch me I promise I'm not a wolf" everyone is all "oops! sorry! sorry! *unlynch unlynch unlynch*!"
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I mean, a lot of that is a result of having heavily themed games. We generally have role names and abilities that mean something, so leaning on people until they tell them and moving along is a valid tactic. A lazy one, but it works in early game and a lot of them have no huge penalty for revealing roles (beyond giving wolves info to work with for cover). Until we have games that de-emphasize the role side of thing it's going to keep working like that. :shrug:
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I'm villager and I'm freaking stoked about my role. Don't lynch me, please.

Plus biochem is over (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and I have all next week off from work. I have time and energy to dedicate to the villager cause, y'all!
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Unlynch BBC, lynch PBC

You, excited about a villager role? Weirds me out yo.
 
WildZoo said:
I will say that the "villager gnome" role name for Hayley seems odd to me at the moment, so I'll be keeping that in the back of my mind.

Caiter said I could change our vote if I had someone better in mind but I'm actually OK with the Kam vote for now. Not a fan of the bandwagon hopping.
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I am also 'villager (magical creature)' so I'm inclined to believe her role claim.
 
Trilt said:
I mean, a lot of that is a result of having heavily themed games. We generally have role names and abilities that mean something, so leaning on people until they tell them and moving along is a valid tactic. A lazy one, but it works in early game and a lot of them have no huge penalty for revealing roles (beyond giving wolves info to work with for cover). Until we have games that de-emphasize the role side of thing it's going to keep working like that. :shrug:
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Not just giving them info to work with for cover, but also for seer hunting. Pressuring people to show up and talk is fine but I don't think the goal should be role reveals.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I am also 'villager (magical creature)' so I'm inclined to believe her role claim.
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I figured that was the case (or that there was a wolf gnome out there), which makes me nervous that dubzaiter may not have villager as a prefix....
 
WildZoo said:
Not just giving them info to work with for cover, but also for seer hunting. Pressuring people to show up and talk is fine but I don't think the goal should be role reveals.
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I mean, that one kinda depends on how obvious the seer is based on roles. But I get your point. I guess I just very much understand people leaning to role reveals D1 when there's no chance to point to your past play or anything. 🙂
 
heyyimhayley said:
I figured that was the case (or that there was a wolf gnome out there), which makes me nervous that dubzaiter may not have villager as a prefix....
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This made me need to go check my role. I knew I was a villager, but couldn't remember how I knew.

I panicked because the title just had game name- (magical animal/vegetable/mineral), but inside the first line also has villager (magical a/v/m).

So unlynch whomever
Lynch WZ
 
I'm not so much feeling the Hayley lynch, and seeing as how Hayley and PBC said their roles were "villager (magical creature)" and mine was phrased the same way, and WZ seemed pretty unsure of Hayley revealing her role that way, I'm going to go with lynch WZ for now. I'm definitely open to other options as the night goes on though.
 
I'm actually kind of happy with the PBC lynch right now. If she had popped over and said this:
PrincessButterCup said:
I am also 'villager (magical creature)' so I'm inclined to believe her role claim.
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before Hayley had revealed, I would lay off. But considering we have "villager blah-dee-bloohs," it would stand to reason that we may also have "wolf blooh-dee-blahs." So that's an easy claim to make from either side.

And I just don't think I can get over her being excited about a villager role.
 
Fine, @Trilt. Fine. I have an affinity for items and I'm assuming this means I'll get lots of cool things to play with this game, and this is exciting. I'm not excited about the villager part, I'm excited about the actual role.
 
DVMDream said:
Sorry, finn but

Lynch finn
You just stand out as having said the least of those who have posted in my quick read through.
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nyanko said:
finn seems to have a posting restriction where she has to post in questions maybe?
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Would you believe that nyanko is right? Would you also believe that it gets annoying to phrase everything as a question so I'm saying less than I would like to? Did you know that there are only so many phrases I can attach to beginning of statement to make it a question but still indicate I'm making a statement rather than actually asking? Would you believe it gets repetitive?

LetItSnow said:
Agreed. I really, really dislike the players who jump in, vote to lynch someone with no explanation, and bamf out again. That is incredibly not useful. If Finn has some posting restriction, Finn should work around it.

Caveat: Maybe Finn explained her vote and I just didn't see it.

But until hearing otherwise:

lynch finn
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Would you believe that I'll work around my posting restriction when I have a reason to do so?

Did you know that my vote was just a typical, beginning of the day random vote? Did you know there is no explanation for it? Did you notice I was the first vote today? Do you realize I had nothing to work with? Don't we have to start somewhere? Did you know 11 is my favorite number and I usually make that my first vote? Would you believe that I often change my vote later in the day as more discussion occurs?

Are you annoyed by my post restriction yet? Do you believe that I am?
 
Ah, mistake on my part. I only looked at the PM title. In the first line mine does say "villager [blah blah]".

I will point out that questioning the way a villager PM is worded would be a ******* thing to do as a wolf.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
Fine, @Trilt. Fine. I have an affinity for items and I'm assuming this means I'll get lots of cool things to play with this game, and this is exciting. I'm not excited about the villager part, I'm excited about the actual role.
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@Trilt noob game flashbacks to your ability claim..........
 
finnickthedog said:
Would you believe that nyanko is right? Would you also believe that it gets annoying to phrase everything as a question so I'm saying less than I would like to? Did you know that there are only so many phrases I can attach to beginning of statement to make it a question but still indicate I'm making a statement rather than actually asking? Would you believe it gets repetitive?



Would you believe that I'll work around my posting restriction when I have a reason to do so?

Did you know that my vote was just a typical, beginning of the day random vote? Did you know there is no explanation for it? Did you notice I was the first vote today? Do you realize I had nothing to work with? Don't we have to start somewhere? Did you know 11 is my favorite number and I usually make that my first vote? Would you believe that I often change my vote later in the day as more discussion occurs?

Are you annoyed by my post restriction yet? Do you believe that I am?
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Would you guys believe that I actually knew exactly why Finn made the vote she did (and acknowledged it in my response to her)? And that she has been consistent in using that justification for D1 ever since our noob game?

It doesn't mean she's not a wolf, but it's her standard fare.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
Fine, @Trilt. Fine. I have an affinity for items and I'm assuming this means I'll get lots of cool things to play with this game, and this is exciting. I'm not excited about the villager part, I'm excited about the actual role.
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Now I'm really really OK with the lynch.

If you're truly excited about a villager role with an affinity for items (delightfully unverifiable... are Wild Things bringing them by, too? 😛) then my read on your general play is super duper wrong.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I'm a fan of wolf brags, so the lack of one today should tell you all something important.
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What do you mean? Why would you wolf brag day one, hours away from lynch when you could still escape said lynch? Wouldn't that be bad wolf play? What is a lack of one supposed to tell us? Does this make sense to anyone else?
 
finnickthedog said:
What do you mean? Why would you wolf brag day one, hours away from lynch when you could still escape said lynch? Wouldn't that be bad wolf play? What is a lack of one supposed to tell us? Does this make sense to anyone else?
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I was only able to get away for a short time this afternoon, and I'll be gone until lynch closes. Anything I wanted to say I needed to get out now. The timing of this comment is pretty irrelevant, since I won't be able to make it later. :shrug:
 
Trilt said:
I'm actually kind of happy with the PBC lynch right now. If she had popped over and said this:

before Hayley had revealed, I would lay off. But considering we have "villager blah-dee-bloohs," it would stand to reason that we may also have "wolf blooh-dee-blahs." So that's an easy claim to make from either side.

And I just don't think I can get over her being excited about a villager role.
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You make a pretty good point.

Unlynch BBC
Lynch PBC
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I'm a fan of wolf brags, so the lack of one today should tell you all something important.
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This is an interesting argument, because I've actually never seen a wolf brag from you. Didn't do one in R&M, didn't do one in Favourite Things, didn't do one in A WW About Nothing... all games where you were a wolf.
 
I've dug myself into a hole here. I never though my enthusiasm would be so suspect.
 
LetItSnow said:
Meh. I am all in favor of leaning on people - we all know that - but this is PARTLY how we end up with the stupid "omg there are five minutes to go and we don't know who to lynch situations" when everyone piles up on someone, and then that person defends and everyone jumps to someone else, and they defend, etc.

At some point it's better just to decide who you think is scummy and go with it.

The pre-vet gang is too NICE. As soon as someone says "oh please don't lynch me I promise I'm not a wolf" everyone is all "oops! sorry! sorry! *unlynch unlynch unlynch*!"
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Right, I agree with this, but you have to be reasonable about what's available for a D1 lynch when several hours have passed and there are only a few votes on the board. I can't tell you who's scummy at that point. No one has said anything. If everyone waits until someone does say something suspicious, we end up with a cluster**** at the end of the day and no time to discuss. But I can add a third vote to a pile and incentivize someone to say something in defense of themselves (this doesn't necessarily mean a role reveal on the thread).

The biggest cause of last minute scrambles is that we all pile on one person only, and no one else feels it's necessary to speak up and defend themselves until the primary candidate checks in at the end of the day and we all switch off. Which is why I agree with Genny it's a good idea to have multiple candidates aware they're up for lynch earlier in the day. But a bunch of single votes spread out across 13 different players until the hour before lynch close doesn't spark discussion either.
 
Did you know that PBC revealed her full role to me? Do you think I was the best person for this job?

Anyways, would you believe she might not be someone we want to lynch? Do you believe that there is more to her role than the affinity for items she claims?
Would you believe that I'm not 100% convinced either way but feel what has been shared with me at least warrants a mention? Do you think PBC was insane to come to me to back her up? Do you realize how difficult this is to phrase? Did this even make any sense?
 
Trilt said:
This is an interesting argument, because I've actually never seen a wolf brag from you. Didn't do one in R&M, didn't do one in Favourite Things, didn't do one in A WW About Nothing... all games where you were a wolf.
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Favorite Things shouldn't count because I intentionally (and very stupidly) revealed myself on the thread in an effort to save Aloha. R&M I was hoping I could get out of lynch. A WW about Nothing was last JULY when I'd played only one or two games before that, and it was my very first time being a wolf.
 
Dog pile lynch:
Hay(0)
BBC(1)- nyanko
STL (1)- finnickthedog
nyanko(1) - genny
kam(2)- caiter, jilary
PBC(8) - STL, Hayley, dy, Kam, VMH, Trilt, Gwen, AM
AM(1) - MJ
Finn( 3)- BBC, LIS, DVMD
WZ ( 3)- PBC, LoTF, raf

20/25

2.5 hours to go
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I've dug myself into a hole here. I never though my enthusiasm would be so suspect.
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Mine got me killed in the noob game and whatever was after. 🙁 I learned I can't be excited about this game on thread because people like to kill joy. I mean, assume you are a wolf.😵

But it is out of character for you, so I do see the point here. (Shrug)
 
Trilt said:
I'm actually kind of happy with the PBC lynch right now. If she had popped over and said this:

before Hayley had revealed, I would lay off. But considering we have "villager blah-dee-bloohs," it would stand to reason that we may also have "wolf blooh-dee-blahs." So that's an easy claim to make from either side.

And I just don't think I can get over her being excited about a villager role.
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This reasoning seems a little off to me. PBC said that after Hayley revealed, yes, but it was in response to what WZ said about Hayley's role reveal sounding sketchy. So by backing up Hayley, PBC made herself sound more sketchy, without knowing whether anyone else had the same wording. I don't think the first part of your reasoning is sound.

You might be right about the enthusiasm, I don't know. If she isn't lynched today, then we've definitely made her a target for wolves. Any role that PBC would get excited about must be able to do something interesting.
 
I'm not super convinced that it's "caught-you" out of character for PBC to be excited about a non-chaos role. Seems like a stretch.

And she was the first person to bring up that her description also said "villager ___", a pattern corroborated by many.

I don't like this lynch. Feels too forced.

Unlynch PBC.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
Favorite Things shouldn't count because I intentionally (and very stupidly) revealed myself on the thread in an effort to save Aloha. R&M I was hoping I could get out of lynch. A WW about Nothing was last JULY when I'd played only one or two games before that, and it was my very first time being a wolf.
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:shrug: Just saying. Don't really love the argument that we'd be seeing a wolf brag out of you when that has simply never been something you've done.

I have no idea if you're actually a wolf. The way this has rolled out just makes me feel funny, and the whole point of this game to to cruelly murder funny feels, right? :chicken:
 
genny said:
This reasoning seems a little off to me. PBC said that after Hayley revealed, yes, but it was in response to what WZ said about Hayley's role reveal sounding sketchy. So by backing up Hayley, PBC made herself sound more sketchy, without knowing whether anyone else had the same wording. I don't think the first part of your reasoning is sound.

You might be right about the enthusiasm, I don't know. If she isn't lynched today, then we've definitely made her a target for wolves. Any role that PBC would get excited about must be able to do something interesting.
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Genny you're my new WZ. :ninja:
 
Trilt said:
:shrug: Just saying. Don't really love the argument that we'd be seeing a wolf brag out of you when that has simply never been something you've done.

I have no idea if you're actually a wolf. The way this has rolled out just makes me feel funny, and the whole point of this game to to cruelly murder funny feels, right? :chicken:
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I was thinking of the 3 most recent games when I had an enthusiasm-worthy role (I am grimacing so hard right now). In Favorite Things I revealed my role purposefully, but yeah, it wasn't in the normal wolf brag-type way. In STL's computer-themed game I revealed my chaos affiliation (in French, nonetheless!) when it became clear I was going down. So I guess DRoP was my first "real" wolf brag, but I do have a history of revealing wolf/chaos roles and having as much fun and trying to sow as much havoc as possible before I die.
 
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