Nor'east Ski WWeekend (Basics) - Game Thread

[Mad Jack]

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You goin to post anything meaningful?

No

 

[SportPonies]

So these are the quotes that made me feel weird about coffee yesterday:

I see why this originally caught attention. Village leans refer to how you feel about others... village leans can't be put onto another player and expect everyone to follow. So it is weird to village lean yourself because as was pointed out if you were village you'd count yourself as confirmed village or not even mention yourself.

Furthermore, I could see a noob wolf coming up with this strategy of "Oh I was a wolf last time so I'm clearly not likely to be a wolf this time"
...but?
You weren't RNG as wolf. You were subbed as a wolf, and there are no statistics for that.

HOWEVER. I don't like how obvious it seems, for D1.


D1 is random votes with a purpose of trying to find a direction to go to.

This one in particular. Was her first significant post of substance and a lot of mechanics talk, not a lot of anything else.

1. No I did. That's what I mean. He IS a noob, either way, so if he doesn't know one way or another, how is leaning less wolf than simply more noob?
2. I have gone back and is why I quoted dolphin's post. There is nothing other than "she seems different", didn't respond to your post (which didn't require much of a response), or tried to find a legit reason to vote MSU, which is a fair thing to do, and as you said you were doing the same thing.

What do you think of her more recent posts?
3. so be it

This response feels.... off.

I'm not defensive about my comment, I'm explaining my comment, but the logic seems to be going over your head so I guess it's pointless

This is after me saying that she was setting off my feels, but still is icky.

I've noticed some better play from her today, but a whole lot of questions and not a whole lot of individual analysis on her part. Is there anyone with a better grasp on Coffee's meta? Is this normal for her? I feel like it's been a century since I've played with her.

 

[muttmanager]

You're not my supervisor

You don't know that 😏

 

[SportPonies]

You don't know that 😏

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

No

Then why play?

 

[Mad Jack]

You don't know that 😏

I do

 

[Mad Jack]

Then why play?

Because I was on call today and really busy, the next few days I'll be more active

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Because I was on call today and really busy, the next few days I'll be more active

Ok sounds good

 

[Animal Midwife]

So these are the quotes that made me feel weird about coffee yesterday:


This one in particular. Was her first significant post of substance and a lot of mechanics talk, not a lot of anything else.

This response feels.... off.



This is after me saying that she was setting off my feels, but still is icky.

I've noticed some better play from her today, but a whole lot of questions and not a whole lot of individual analysis on her part. Is there anyone with a better grasp on Coffee's meta? Is this normal for her? I feel like it's been a century since I've played with her.

I don't know much about coffee's meta other than there being a strong correlation between her posting levels in regards to whether she's lynched.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Sooo yeah... fair warning about the lowposting @CoffeeQuestionMark .

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I don't know much about coffee's meta other than there being a strong correlation between her posting levels in regards to whether she's lynched.

that makes me sad, you've played every game that I have...

 

[Animal Midwife]

that makes me sad, you've played every game that I have...

No, I haven't.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Sooo yeah... fair warning about the lowposting @CoffeeQuestionMark .

>low posting
>has been on thread since getting home 3 hours ago
😡 ((THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SAD FACE BUT IT KEEPS CHANGING))

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

No, I haven't.

oh duh noob game

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Well now I feel like I'm just joining the gang but I'm keeping with my intention that I mentioned earlier and

lynch snowy

I never saw you say you were going to Lynch snowy. am I missing something?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I never saw you say you were going to Lynch snowy. am I missing something?

You are

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I'm driving home now so will post analyze at my computer but have been watching the thread discretely at work and based on what I've seen today I actually agree more with AM on snowy than mutts at this point but a couple other things caught my eye which I will find later.

Also I woke up at 4 am to go to the gym cause I am full of great ideas

 

[SARdoghandler]

So these are the quotes that made me feel weird about coffee yesterday:


This one in particular. Was her first significant post of substance and a lot of mechanics talk, not a lot of anything else.

This response feels.... off.



This is after me saying that she was setting off my feels, but still is icky.

I've noticed some better play from her today, but a whole lot of questions and not a whole lot of individual analysis on her part. Is there anyone with a better grasp on Coffee's meta? Is this normal for her? I feel like it's been a century since I've played with her.

I'm still playing catch up (page 9) but this is a fairly good summary of the feels I had on Coffee and why I voted for her D1. She just feels off to me, something in the tone and content.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

You are

Yeah, I saw that comment you never posted this:

but a couple other things caught my eye which I will find later.

So??

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Yeah, I saw that comment you never posted this:


So??

You can search for my posts by using the search function, specifiying this thread, and searching my name, or looking at my recent posts, but it should be clear which post it was where I mentioned those.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

>low posting
>has been on thread since getting home 3 hours ago
😡 ((THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SAD FACE BUT IT KEEPS CHANGING))

And you've been on the thread for three hours but only posted about condiments it appears

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

You can search for my posts by using the search function, specifiying this thread, and searching my name, or looking at my recent posts, but it should be clear which post it was where I mentioned those.

I'm well aware how to use the search function. Nice try though.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I'm well aware how to use the search function. Nice try though.

My point was that, it is easy to find, and it definitely exists, there is no reason for you to be asking me to find it for you

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

My point was that, it is easy to find, and it definitely exists, there is no reason for you to be asking me to find it for you

I was not asking you to find it for me. I already iso-ed your posts and there was really nothing of substance. Hence me asking. You didn't really make an argument for snowy and then you just posted a lot about condiments, like I said.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

And you've been on the thread for three hours but only posted about condiments it appears

Hmmm do you have a topic in mind you would like to discuss?? Because I've said all I need to say at this point. Wouldn't want to skew my post/like ratio too much.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Back home. These are what caught my eye today.

I feel like it's a circle because to me this reason comes off of as HIM not reading the thread carefully either, which he says he does as a wolf. So agree with @Melchizedek here.


What in the world does this even mean?


This seems very well thought out. Since you mentioned not wanting to lynch a noob, though, I'm interested to know your thoughts on the other candidates... e.g. capri and snowy, who are experienced?


This pinged as looking for a different kind of answer than dolphin provided, like in a fishing kind of way.







Why the switch here? You didn't mention capri in your wolfy feels. You told grebes you would re-evaluate after she posted, but she said nothing inbetween there and when you switched.

FOR GOODNESS SAKES ZIGGY. GO TO BED YOU'RE TIRED.

 

[Melchizedek]

Hold on can someone clarify something for me real quick?
This morning it looked like people were in agreement that we think the wolves killed BJ to purposely make capri look bad.
Meaning we think Capri is village.
I thought that most people had agreed with that line of logic?
Then how did Capri still end up one of the leading lynch candidates today?

 

[WildZoo]

Hold on can someone clarify something for me real quick?
This morning it looked like people were in agreement that we think the wolves killed BJ to purposely make capri look bad.
Meaning we think Capri is village.
I thought that most people had agreed with that line of logic?
Then how did Capri still end up one of the leading lynch candidates today?

I don't think anybody really agreed on anything...not that I saw anyway

 

[Animal Midwife]

Hold on can someone clarify something for me real quick?
This morning it looked like people were in agreement that we think the wolves killed BJ to purposely make capri look bad.
Meaning we think Capri is village.
I thought that most people had agreed with that line of logic?
Then how did Capri still end up one of the leading lynch candidates today?

Not liking her numbers comments on D1 and self-prez was the reasoning.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

FOR GOODNESS SAKES ZIGGY. GO TO BED YOU'RE TIRED.

Nope, I read this. Like I said, I can READ. And I also can use the search function. Like I said, I don't see an argument there. Still don't after you've posted it like 10 minutes since the last time I read it.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Hmmm do you have a topic in mind you would like to discuss?? Because I've said all I need to say at this point. Wouldn't want to skew my post/like ratio too much.

Sketch points

 

[SportPonies]

Hold on can someone clarify something for me real quick?
This morning it looked like people were in agreement that we think the wolves killed BJ to purposely make capri look bad.
Meaning we think Capri is village.
I thought that most people had agreed with that line of logic?
Then how did Capri still end up one of the leading lynch candidates today?

Sound logic....
Post sounds like wolfy Mel though

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Called out for not posting enough, gets defensive about this, still posts nothing worth evaluating, then wants to go back to not posting

 

[WildZoo]

Not liking her numbers comments on D1 and self-prez was the reasoning.

Meh. My vote was originally there because she had posted zero content and continued to post zero content.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Hold on can someone clarify something for me real quick?
This morning it looked like people were in agreement that we think the wolves killed BJ to purposely make capri look bad.
Meaning we think Capri is village.
I thought that most people had agreed with that line of logic?
Then how did Capri still end up one of the leading lynch candidates today?

I saw people post this theory, didn't see a consensus of people agreeing

 

[Animal Midwife]

Meh. My vote was originally there because she had posted zero content and continued to post zero content.

I forgot you were on the vote. Just glanced at the final tally.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Nope, I read this. Like I said, I can READ. And I also can use the search function. Like I said, I don't see an argument there. Still don't after you've posted it like 10 minutes since the last time I read it.

ZIGGY. I'm not interested in lynching someone for their math, or thinking they're lying about having a PR role. These are not arguments.

What are you missing?
-The fishing
-The inconsistencies in voting
-The lack of reasoning for voting (capri) when she voted based off of Dubz's reasoning, who later said she was wrong about that post

It may have been wrong, but these are exactly the kinds of things you should be looking for. Inconsistencies and lack of reasons.

edit: I'm going to add to this, ziggy, you played with me when I was a wolf, so think of that when you're trying to reference my play now

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Sketch points

SARCASM

 

[Melchizedek]

I don't think anybody really agreed on anything...not that I saw anyway

I saw people post this theory, didn't see a consensus of people agreeing

hmm yes, just went back to see how that all went down and saw that dubz floated it. I know I agreed with it silently I guess I was projecting onto others because I didn't particularly see anyone refute it either.

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Melchizedek Do you mind sharing your current leans?

 

[muttmanager]

Hold on can someone clarify something for me real quick?
This morning it looked like people were in agreement that we think the wolves killed BJ to purposely make capri look bad.
Meaning we think Capri is village.
I thought that most people had agreed with that line of logic?
Then how did Capri still end up one of the leading lynch candidates today?

I didn’t agree with that.

Not liking her numbers comments on D1 and self-prez was the reasoning.

I didn’t like her lack of quality content.


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[Animal Midwife]

I didn’t like her lack of quality content.

Anything specific you want to hear from her?

 

[SARdoghandler]

Did anyone else see how MPM went from reading Ziggy village on D1 to suddenly reading Ziggy as her strongest wolf feels today?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Did anyone else see how MPM went from reading Ziggy village on D1 to suddenly reading Ziggy as her strongest wolf feels today?

I didn't but thanks for point it out.

 

[SARdoghandler]

I didn't but thanks for point it out.

The spreadsheet, man.

 

[WildZoo]

The spreadsheet, man.

I dunno how you have time for that lol

 

[SARdoghandler]

I dunno how you have time for that lol

I don't know how either. But at least it's useful for inconsistencies

It's why I've been catching up for over an hour and I'm still only on page 11 now. It's extra painful if you spend a few hours making sure it's utd and then you get killed.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Barks could easily have been back in the lead if people had moved off cubs. I'm certainly not saying every person on that lynch is a wolf, but I could see a wolf staying on it
1) if they thought there was a chance barks might still be lynched (definitely a possibility)
b) if there was a reasonable argument for missing the reveal (it was subtle and there was a lot of activity on thread)
) if they didn't want to appear to believe the reveal too quickly and be called out for that (have seen people get lynched for this before)

Thank you for livening up the numbering system again. I was getting bored.

 

[muttmanager]

Anything specific you want to hear from her?

I'd like to see some more non-self prez reads

 

[Melchizedek]

@Melchizedek Do you mind sharing your current leans?

Wolf
SOV

Wolfish
ZJ (yes, still going back and forth on this one)

Slight wolf lean
Dina - chat comment still has my teeth on edge
Dubz - see above.
AM - seeing how Snowy flipped.
SAR - Her post on D1 that hedged between cubs and barks felt weird, but some of her questions to people feels like genuine wolf hunting.

Neutral to village leans on everyone else.


EDIT: SAR ninja'd me with her catch on MPM. Move her to slight village lean.
EDIT again: Add skimble to the Wolfish list, she's playing similar to a game two novembers ago I remember I called her out for her dropping votes and vanishing and she ended up flipping wolf.