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WildZoo said:
I'm stuck on his interactions with Mel though
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I could see them doing that though. They are both experienced enough, and SOV probably thought he'd be seered early, so that's a good way of giving the other cred after the first one went down.

EDIT: Or would you rather I voted for you today? 😛
 
Day 9 Lynch Tally

dinamite (1) - sov
sov (2) - skim, dinamite

3/6

Deadline 10pm est (~10 hours)

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Skimble said:
I could see them doing that though. They are both experienced enough, and SOV probably thought he'd be seered early, so that's a good way of giving the other cred after the first one went down.

EDIT: Or would you rather I voted for you today? 😛
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If I was seeered early, and I must have been given all the suspicion on me, someone would have been consistently voting to lynch me. I can’t be a convert ergo I must not be a wolf...and I am not.

I don’t think I can be any more straight forward and village than I have been this game, don’t blow it on me.
 
Skimble said:
I think based on voting, dina, cray, zig and I are all in the strong village category, which leaves sov and wz. I’m really not sure where to go with that one. I feel like sov would be more likely to convert docE though, so that is where I’ll vote for now.

Lynch sov
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Dina didn’t vote for Mel most recently..,was in early on coffee, that is Not strong village at all.
 
Skimble said:
I could see them doing that though. They are both experienced enough, and SOV probably thought he'd be seered early, so that's a good way of giving the other cred after the first one went down.

EDIT: Or would you rather I voted for you today? 😛
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I think you're being really inconsistent in your reasoning. Why does Dina get more credit than SOV or I do?
 
I think it is time for the seer to release results. We have Few enough players that we should get it close to 50/50 and maybe eliminate a choice,

I am pretty sure who the seer is, and I have thought so for a while, I assume wolves are avoiding them because they want to find protector first (who I have vaguenthoughts on),

Not naming names under any circumstance, cause maybe wolves are dumb, just think at some point seer inf9 has to come out for us,
 
StartingoverVet said:
I think it is time for the seer to release results. We have Few enough players that we should get it close to 50/50 and maybe eliminate a choice,

I am pretty sure who the seer is, and I have thought so for a while, I assume wolves are avoiding them because they want to find protector first (who I have vaguenthoughts on),

Not naming names under any circumstance, cause maybe wolves are dumb, just think at some point seer inf9 has to come out for us,
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Well I was under the impression there was no seer...
 
Also you've never ended a day on a Mel vote either
 
StartingoverVet said:
I think it is time for the seer to release results. We have Few enough players that we should get it close to 50/50 and maybe eliminate a choice,

I am pretty sure who the seer is, and I have thought so for a while, I assume wolves are avoiding them because they want to find protector first (who I have vaguenthoughts on),

Not naming names under any circumstance, cause maybe wolves are dumb, just think at some point seer inf9 has to come out for us,
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Yeah I think the tracker and the jailer were the closest we got to a seer and protector
 
I can only confirm DocE was wolf yesterday, and killer was village d1. Beyond that I'm not sure how to color code without knowing when conversion happened.

Also I don't feel like fixing my color back to black since I'm unconfirmed lol too much work

Day 8 Lynch Tracker

contingencies
cray (1) - zig
cray (1) - zig
dubz (1) - zig

day start
dina (1) - dubz
SOV (1) - sporty
DocE (1) - dina
dubz (0) - zig
cray (1) - zig
sporty (1) - DocE
dubz (1) - sov
sporty (0) - DocE
cray (2) - DocE
DocE (2) skimble
SOV (0) - sporty
dubz (2) - sporty
cray (1) - zig
dubz (3) - zig
cray (0) - DocE
dina (2) - DocE
dubz (4) - cray
dina (1) - dubz
DocE (3) - dubz
dubz (3) - cray
DocE (4) - cray


Day 7 (Drnk, so apologies for typos) Lynch Tracker

contingencies
Dubz (1) - sporty
zig (1) - sporty
sporty (1) - zig

day opens
MSU (1) - skimble
DocE (1) - dubz
dubz (1) - SOV
zig (2) - DocE
Dina (1) - dolphin
DocE (0) - dubz
MSU (2) - dubz
MSU (1) - dubz
DocE (1) - dubz
dubz (0) - SOV
DocE (2) - SOV
DocE (1) - SOV
dubz (1) - SOV
dubz (0) - SOV
dina (2) - SOV
DocE (0) - dubz
dubz (2) - MSU
dina (3) - dubz
MSU (0) - skim
cray (1) - skim
zig (1) - sporty
sporty (0) - zig
MSU (1) - zig
dina (2) - dubz
MSU (2) - dubz
MSU (1) - zig
cray (2) - zig
cray (3) - dina
dina (3) - cray
cray (2) - skim
MSU (2) - skim
dina (2) - SOV
MSU (3) - SOV
dubz (2) - sporty
dubz (1) - sporty
dina (3) - sporty
dina (2) - sporty
cray (3) - sporty
cray (2) - sporty
dina (3) - sporty
cray (1) - zig
MSU (4) - zig

Day 6 Lynch Tracker

contingencies
Mel (1) - zig
mel (2) - sporty
SAR (1) - mel
SAR (2) - MJ

MJ dead - day open
SOV (1) - SAR
Mel (3) - SOV
Mel (4) - skim
Dina (1) - DocE
SAR (2) - MSU
SOV (2) - dubz
SOV (3) - dina
SAR (1) - MSU
Mel (5) - MSU
SAR (0) - Mel
SOV (4) - Mel
Mel (4) - SOV
SAR (1) - SOV
dina (0) - DocE
SOV (5) - DocE
SOV (4) - cheezit
SAR (2)- cheezit
mel (5) - craycray
SAR (1) - cheezit
SOV (5) - cheezit
skim (1) - dolphin
skim (0) - dolphin
cheezit (6) - dolphin

Day 5 Lynch Tracker

contingencies:
coffee (1) - sporty
coffee (2) - zig
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (1) - zig
AM (1) - zig

day start - AM dead
coffee (2)- Dina
coffee (3) - zig
dubz (1) - SAR
skim (1) - dubz
SOV (2) - dolphin
dubz (2) - SOV
coffee (4) - MJ
skim (0) - dubz
le cheez (1) - dubz
dubz (1) - SAR
MJ (1) - SAR
cheez (2) - skim
dubz (0) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
covfefe (6) - MSU
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (5) - sporty
mel (3) - sport
coffee (6) - cheez
mel (4) - craycray
covfefe (5)- zig
chez (5) - zig
SOV (0) - dolphin
coffee (6) - dolphin
coffee (7) - DocE
cheezit (4) - dubz
covfefe (8) - dubz


Day 4 Lynch Tracker

contingencies:

coffee (1) - AM
coffee (2) - Dina
sporty (1) - grebes
cheezit (1) - sporty
mutts (1) - zig

day start

mutts (0) - zig
coffee (3) - zig
cheezit (2) - skimble
skimble (1) - dubz
MSU (1) - SOV
cheezit (3) - coffee
coffee (4) - SAR
coffee (5) - killer
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (6) - dolphin
cheezit (4) - mutts
~Dead mutts~
cheezit (3)
coffee (7) - MSU
cheezit (4) - MJ
cheezit (3) - covfefe
zig (1) - covfefe
SOV (0) - cheezit
zig (2) - cheezit
coffee (6) - dolphin
zig (3) - dolphin

Day 3 Lynch Tracker

SOV (1) - AM
SOV (2) - Cheezit
dubz (1) - zig
sporty (1) - grebes
sporty (2) - dubz
SOV (3) - SAR
killer (1) - SOV
capri (1) - dina
sporty (1) - dubz
capri (2) - grebes
MJ (1) - MSU
grebes (1) - skimble
cheezit (1) - dolphin
capri (3) - MJ
capri (4) - mutts
SOV (4) - barks
SOV (3) - AM
coffee (1) - AM
MSU votes for mutts but does not unlynch first
SOV (2) - barks
mutts (1) - barks
SOV (3) - capri
MJ (0) - MSU
mutts (2) - MSU
coffee (2) - killer
sporty (0) - dubz
dubz (0) - zig
mutts (3) - zig
coffee (3) - dubz
cheez (2) - koffee
SOV (2) - SAR
kovfefe (4) - SAR
SOV (1) - capri
covfefe (5) - capri
coffee (4) - dubz
coffee? (5) - sporty
sporty (1) - dubz
killer (0) - SOV
coffee (6) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
killer (1) - SOV
sporty (0) - dubz
cheezit (3) - dubz
coffee (4) - sporty
cheez (4) - sporty
killer (0) - SOV
mutts (4) - SOV
mutts (3) - MSU
cheezit (5) - MSU
cheezit (4) - dubz
mutts (2) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
SOV (0) - cheeez
coffee (6) - cheeeez
coffee (5) - SOV
sporty (1) - dubz
cheezit (3) - coffee
capri (5) - coffee
coffee (4) - cheez
sporty (2) - cheez
killer (1) - SOV

Day 2 Lynch Tracker

capri (1) - dubz
snowy (1) - AM
zig (1) - skim
dubz (1) - zig
zig (2) - SOV
capri (2) - grebes
mpm (1) - dina
zig (3) - cheezit
capri (3) - killer
zig (4) - mpm
dubz (0) - zig
capri (4) - zig
mutts (1) - barks
grebes (1) - snowy
capri (3) - dubz
snowy (2) - dubz
coffee (1) - sporty
zig (3) - cheezit
SOV (1) - cheezit
snowy (3) - dolph
grebes (0) - snowy
capri (4) - snowy
snowy (4) - genny
capri (5) - mutts
zig (4) - capri
zig (3) - capri
snowy (5) - capri
capri (4) - zig
snowy (6) - zig
snowy (7) - coffee
snowy (6) - AM
SOV (2) - AM
snowy (5) - dubz
capri (5) - dubz
mutts (2) - MSU
capri (4) - dubz
snowy (6) - dubz


Day 1 Lynch Tracker

killer (1) - sobsob
grebes (1) - AM
cheezit (1) - skilary
AM (1) - capri
AM (2) - MSU
MSU (1) - barks
capri (1) - grebes
dubz (1) - sportsport
AM (3) - dubz
dubz (2) - killer
barks (1) - zig
Killer (0) - sobsob
cubs (1) - sobsob
sobsob (1) - cubs
cubs (2) - mpm
sobsob (0) - cubs
AM (2) - MSU
dubz (3) - SAR
zig (1) - cheez
AM (1) - dubz
barks (2) - dubz
sporty (1) - genny
cheez (2) - dolphin
barks (3) - mutts
cubs (3) - MJ
barks (4) - snowy
coffee? (1) - cubs
grebes (1) - AM
snowy (1) - AM
sporty (0) - genny
cubs (4) - genny
dubz (2) - SAR
coffee? (2) - SAR
coffee? (1) - cubs
barks (5) - cubs
dubz (3) - dina
dubz (2) - sport
coffee? (2) - sport
genny (1) - MSU
barks (4) - dubz
coffee (3) - dubz
mutts (1) - coffee
coffee (2) - dubz
snowy (2) - dubz
capri (2) - bj
barks (3) - mutts
capri (3) - mutts
snowy (1) - dubz
zig (2) - dubz
 
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StartingoverVet said:
If I was seeered early, and I must have been given all the suspicion on me, someone would have been consistently voting to lynch me. I can’t be a convert ergo I must not be a wolf...and I am not.

I don’t think I can be any more straight forward and village than I have been this game, don’t blow it on me.
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How do you know there is a seer and/or protector?
StartingoverVet said:
Dina didn’t vote for Mel most recently..,was in early on coffee, that is Not strong village at all.
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Wasn’t Dina the first to vote docE yesterday? That seems pretty village to me.
WildZoo said:
I think you're being really inconsistent in your reasoning. Why does Dina get more credit than SOV or I do?
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Because she was the first to vote docE yesterday, your vote for him was self prez, so carries a lot less weight. Cray’s vote broke the tie between you and docE, so also more village.
 
Skimble said:
Because she was the first to vote docE yesterday, your vote for him was self prez, so carries a lot less weight. Cray’s vote broke the tie between you and docE, so also more village.
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So then why does SOV not get any credit for cheezit pushing his lynch earlier on?
Do you see the inconsistency I'm talking about? You're basically saying wolves wouldn't vote for each other first in one case but they would in another.
 
Skimble said:
Wasn’t Dina the first to vote docE yesterday? That seems pretty village to me..
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I find that unconvincing, especially with Espana as a wolf. If he wasn’t setting up his fellow wolf to succeed if he failed, I would be surprised. An early vote for a fellow wolf, especially one who was under suspicion, and especially a player who rarely makes it to end game? That is meaningless. I would never let a wolf pack be that unprotected, and I doubt espana would either.

And the strongest evidence I am not a wolf is I haven’t thrown anyone under the bus. That is the ONLY way I can survive when a wolf. And honestly too much fun for me, to forswear .
 
I think everyone left is vanilla

I thought the Dolph kill was weird, it made SOV look really good. I also thought the sporty kill was weird (I wanted to be victorious in my early pack thoughts).

I was thinking the Dolph thing made SOV village but now I am not so sure. I don't think mel could've switched his vote off of SOV at that point because if he did, it would make a big fat target on him. He had to hope someone broke the tie and only one of them died, or that they didn't both die in tie making (if SOV is wolf)

Skim gets big village points trying to convince dolphin onto the Mel vote. Cray gets big points for yesterday (though it is possible she is wolf, I find it unlikely)

Dubs and Dina still could be suspect. Same with SOV imo.

I find it weird DocE didn't vote for dubs to tie it last second with them. Could be trying to avoid getting them both lynched, or could've just not been thinking on his feet. I thought dubs tied it up and this would clear her, but she did not.

If I have time, I would like to see some interactions between SOV and dubs with DocE.
 
WildZoo said:
SOV is usually a pretty strong busser. I remember some epic and well-timed bussing.
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And i threw so much shade on doc and Mel. Why would you stir up trouble for your fellow wolves and then get no cred when they are lynched, that is just screwing things up for the pack with no gain. If I am gonna bus someone, they are going t9 be squashed and I will dance on their grave. As usual, the best indicator of me being a villager is poor wolf play. I lynch wolves much more consistently as a wolf.
 
StartingoverVet said:
And i threw so much shade on doc and Mel. Why would you stir up trouble for your fellow wolves and then get no cred when they are lynched, that is just screwing things up for the pack with no gain. If I am gonna bus someone, they are going t9 be squashed and I will dance on their grave. As usual, the best indicator of me being a villager is poor wolf play. I lynch wolves much more consistently as a wolf.
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I have been trying to tell people this about myself for the last two games and they don't listen. I don't bus much but if I do I'm not gonna half ass it, because then what is the point? Bussing isn't worth it if you don't get the village cred reward.
 
Biggest interactions between doc and me is doc buttering me up....he was staunchly pro village SoV.. and complimentary of me. In hindsight, he is never nice to me, so that should have been a sign. And again, if we were wolfing together, he wouldn’t make it so obvious to defend me. That is just too dangerous. To me, it should be fairly obvious that there are zero signs I am a wolf.

But always easier to see that when you already know your own affiliation.
 
I find it interesting no one seemed to be upset when sporty was throwing ties around with cray, dina, and MSU.

We have two chances to get this right. Today and tomorrow.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
What are your reasons?
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Wolves don’t need reasons, she is trying to join any bandwagon who isn’t her. Then later she can pick and choose among the discussion, if she had reasons she would have posted them with her vote,

Really if you have time to write lynch abc....you have one more minute to outline basics why.
 
I felt like this lynch in particular might be important, because it seems to me there absolutely would have been a wolf on the coffee lynch. But that wolf might have been killer if she was converted already. So less helpful than I had hoped.

Day 4 Hey You, No Sledding on the Groomed Trails! Lynch Tally

Coffee? (6) - AM, Dina, zigzag, SAR, killer, MSU
Sporty (1) - Cray
Mel (3) - Sporty, skim MJ
mutts () -
Skim (1) - dubz
MSU (1) - SOV
SOV () -
Ziggy (3) - coffee, Mel, dolphin

15/15 voting
 
I am ok making a 2 way tie even if it includes me.

We have 3 lynch candidates...wz, me, and Dina, I just don’t see anyone else being lynched next 2 cycles. If wolf is one of the other 3 I guess wolves have deservedly won already,

If we lynch one person wrong.
2sketch 3 less sketch left
Then after wolf kill 2 and 2
If we lynch wrong again
1 sketch and 2 good left
After wolf kill wolves win,

If we lynch 2 players wrong...
1 sketch and 3 less sketch left
After wolf kill...1 and 2
We lynch sketch and villagers win.

Obviously anytime we get the right person right,,,we win.
so I will be trying to tie it up with wz and Dina. 2 of us die. 1 lives, we are good.
 
For the record, I think this game was skewed wolf. A tracker is a lame seer, hard to catch wolves that way or find much info in a low role game, and a jailer is a lame protector as you essentially block the important role you are protecting. Plus the wolves had a lot of abilities...extra kills, lynch avoidance, etc.

Goes back to @LetItSnow ’s ww theory...game is supposed to be harder for wolves. Not easy. They have all the info.
So when villagers follow my tie strategy and possibly win, I think we really deserve credit. And if we lose....the fix was in by the mods,

THE END.

Edit: this all assumes you people are right there is no seer or protector....the people who I have assumed had these roles all along are still alive so I have hope...small, puny, weak hope.
 
WildZoo said:
I can only confirm DocE was wolf yesterday, and killer was village d1. Beyond that I'm not sure how to color code without knowing when conversion happened.

Also I don't feel like fixing my color back to black since I'm unconfirmed lol too much work

Day 8 Lynch Tracker

contingencies
cray (1) - zig
cray (1) - zig
dubz (1) - zig

day start
dina (1) - dubz
SOV (1) - sporty
DocE (1) - dina
dubz (0) - zig
cray (1) - zig
sporty (1) - DocE
dubz (1) - sov
sporty (0) - DocE
cray (2) - DocE
DocE (2) skimble
SOV (0) - sporty
dubz (2) - sporty
cray (1) - zig
dubz (3) - zig
cray (0) - DocE
dina (2) - DocE
dubz (4) - cray
dina (1) - dubz
DocE (3) - dubz
dubz (3) - cray
DocE (4) - cray


Day 7 (Drnk, so apologies for typos) Lynch Tracker

contingencies
Dubz (1) - sporty
zig (1) - sporty
sporty (1) - zig

day opens
MSU (1) - skimble
DocE (1) - dubz
dubz (1) - SOV
zig (2) - DocE
Dina (1) - dolphin
DocE (0) - dubz
MSU (2) - dubz
MSU (1) - dubz
DocE (1) - dubz
dubz (0) - SOV
DocE (2) - SOV
DocE (1) - SOV
dubz (1) - SOV
dubz (0) - SOV
dina (2) - SOV
DocE (0) - dubz
dubz (2) - MSU
dina (3) - dubz
MSU (0) - skim
cray (1) - skim
zig (1) - sporty
sporty (0) - zig
MSU (1) - zig
dina (2) - dubz
MSU (2) - dubz
MSU (1) - zig
cray (2) - zig
cray (3) - dina
dina (3) - cray
cray (2) - skim
MSU (2) - skim
dina (2) - SOV
MSU (3) - SOV
dubz (2) - sporty
dubz (1) - sporty
dina (3) - sporty
dina (2) - sporty
cray (3) - sporty
cray (2) - sporty
dina (3) - sporty
cray (1) - zig
MSU (4) - zig

Day 6 Lynch Tracker

contingencies
Mel (1) - zig
mel (2) - sporty
SAR (1) - mel
SAR (2) - MJ

MJ dead - day open
SOV (1) - SAR
Mel (3) - SOV
Mel (4) - skim
Dina (1) - DocE
SAR (2) - MSU
SOV (2) - dubz
SOV (3) - dina
SAR (1) - MSU
Mel (5) - MSU
SAR (0) - Mel
SOV (4) - Mel
Mel (4) - SOV
SAR (1) - SOV
dina (0) - DocE
SOV (5) - DocE
SOV (4) - cheezit
SAR (2)- cheezit
mel (5) - craycray
SAR (1) - cheezit
SOV (5) - cheezit
skim (1) - dolphin
skim (0) - dolphin
cheezit (6) - dolphin

Day 5 Lynch Tracker

contingencies:
coffee (1) - sporty
coffee (2) - zig
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (1) - zig
AM (1) - zig

day start - AM dead
coffee (2)- Dina
coffee (3) - zig
dubz (1) - SAR
skim (1) - dubz
SOV (2) - dolphin
dubz (2) - SOV
coffee (4) - MJ
skim (0) - dubz
le cheez (1) - dubz
dubz (1) - SAR
MJ (1) - SAR
cheez (2) - skim
dubz (0) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
covfefe (6) - MSU
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (5) - sporty
mel (3) - sport
coffee (6) - cheez
mel (4) - craycray
covfefe (5)- zig
chez (5) - zig
SOV (0) - dolphin
coffee (6) - dolphin
coffee (7) - DocE
cheezit (4) - dubz
covfefe (8) - dubz


Day 4 Lynch Tracker

contingencies:

coffee (1) - AM
coffee (2) - Dina
sporty (1) - grebes
cheezit (1) - sporty
mutts (1) - zig

day start

mutts (0) - zig
coffee (3) - zig
cheezit (2) - skimble
skimble (1) - dubz
MSU (1) - SOV
cheezit (3) - coffee
coffee (4) - SAR
coffee (5) - killer
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (6) - dolphin
cheezit (4) - mutts
~Dead mutts~
cheezit (3)
coffee (7) - MSU
cheezit (4) - MJ
cheezit (3) - covfefe
zig (1) - covfefe
SOV (0) - cheezit
zig (2) - cheezit
coffee (6) - dolphin
zig (3) - dolphin

Day 3 Lynch Tracker

SOV (1) - AM
SOV (2) - Cheezit
dubz (1) - zig
sporty (1) - grebes
sporty (2) - dubz
SOV (3) - SAR
killer (1) - SOV
capri (1) - dina
sporty (1) - dubz
capri (2) - grebes
MJ (1) - MSU
grebes (1) - skimble
cheezit (1) - dolphin
capri (3) - MJ
capri (4) - mutts
SOV (4) - barks
SOV (3) - AM
coffee (1) - AM
MSU votes for mutts but does not unlynch first
SOV (2) - barks
mutts (1) - barks
SOV (3) - capri
MJ (0) - MSU
mutts (2) - MSU
coffee (2) - killer
sporty (0) - dubz
dubz (0) - zig
mutts (3) - zig
coffee (3) - dubz
cheez (2) - koffee
SOV (2) - SAR
kovfefe (4) - SAR
SOV (1) - capri
covfefe (5) - capri
coffee (4) - dubz
coffee? (5) - sporty
sporty (1) - dubz
killer (0) - SOV
coffee (6) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
killer (1) - SOV
sporty (0) - dubz
cheezit (3) - dubz
coffee (4) - sporty
cheez (4) - sporty
killer (0) - SOV
mutts (4) - SOV
mutts (3) - MSU
cheezit (5) - MSU
cheezit (4) - dubz
mutts (2) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
SOV (0) - cheeez
coffee (6) - cheeeez
coffee (5) - SOV
sporty (1) - dubz
cheezit (3) - coffee
capri (5) - coffee
coffee (4) - cheez
sporty (2) - cheez
killer (1) - SOV

Day 2 Lynch Tracker

capri (1) - dubz
snowy (1) - AM
zig (1) - skim
dubz (1) - zig
zig (2) - SOV
capri (2) - grebes
mpm (1) - dina
zig (3) - cheezit
capri (3) - killer
zig (4) - mpm
dubz (0) - zig
capri (4) - zig
mutts (1) - barks
grebes (1) - snowy
capri (3) - dubz
snowy (2) - dubz
coffee (1) - sporty
zig (3) - cheezit
SOV (1) - cheezit
snowy (3) - dolph
grebes (0) - snowy
capri (4) - snowy
snowy (4) - genny
capri (5) - mutts
zig (4) - capri
zig (3) - capri
snowy (5) - capri
capri (4) - zig
snowy (6) - zig
snowy (7) - coffee
snowy (6) - AM
SOV (2) - AM
snowy (5) - dubz
capri (5) - dubz
mutts (2) - MSU
capri (4) - dubz
snowy (6) - dubz


Day 1 Lynch Tracker

killer (1) - sobsob
grebes (1) - AM
cheezit (1) - skilary
AM (1) - capri
AM (2) - MSU
MSU (1) - barks
capri (1) - grebes
dubz (1) - sportsport
AM (3) - dubz
dubz (2) - killer
barks (1) - zig
Killer (0) - sobsob
cubs (1) - sobsob
sobsob (1) - cubs
cubs (2) - mpm
sobsob (0) - cubs
AM (2) - MSU
dubz (3) - SAR
zig (1) - cheez
AM (1) - dubz
barks (2) - dubz
sporty (1) - genny
cheez (2) - dolphin
barks (3) - mutts
cubs (3) - MJ
barks (4) - snowy
coffee? (1) - cubs
grebes (1) - AM
snowy (1) - AM
sporty (0) - genny
cubs (4) - genny
dubz (2) - SAR
coffee? (2) - SAR
coffee? (1) - cubs
barks (5) - cubs
dubz (3) - dina
dubz (2) - sport
coffee? (2) - sport
genny (1) - MSU
barks (4) - dubz
coffee (3) - dubz
mutts (1) - coffee
coffee (2) - dubz
snowy (2) - dubz
capri (2) - bj
barks (3) - mutts
capri (3) - mutts
snowy (1) - dubz
zig (2) - dubz
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Realized I forgot to colorize sporty, so did that and made killer/DocE red & green for the days where I'm unsure what affiliation they were
 
StartingoverVet said:
I am ok making a 2 way tie even if it includes me.

We have 3 lynch candidates...wz, me, and Dina, I just don’t see anyone else being lynched next 2 cycles. If wolf is one of the other 3 I guess wolves have deservedly won already,

If we lynch one person wrong.
2sketch 3 less sketch left
Then after wolf kill 2 and 2
If we lynch wrong again
1 sketch and 2 good left
After wolf kill wolves win,

If we lynch 2 players wrong...
1 sketch and 3 less sketch left
After wolf kill...1 and 2
We lynch sketch and villagers win.

Obviously anytime we get the right person right,,,we win.
so I will be trying to tie it up with wz and Dina. 2 of us die. 1 lives, we are good.
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Just clarifying, you're saying you'll make a tie between me and dina, or are you saying a 3 way that includes you?
 
StartingoverVet said:
I had assumed every game had them, cause every game I played did. Well seer anyway. WW without seer is like WW without wolves. But I see life has moved on without me. How sad.
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Didn’t you also speculate in the beginning of the game that roles were randomized and not necessarily associated with affiliation?

WildZoo said:
So then why does SOV not get any credit for cheezit pushing his lynch earlier on?
Do you see the inconsistency I'm talking about? You're basically saying wolves wouldn't vote for each other first in one case but they would in another.
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I also addressed this earlier and said it's something I could see mel and SOV doing, it's not something I see dina doing (though I do think she's a good player from what I saw in the noob game).
 
StartingoverVet said:
Wolves don’t need reasons, she is trying to join any bandwagon who isn’t her. Then later she can pick and choose among the discussion, if she had reasons she would have posted them with her vote,

Really if you have time to write lynch abc....you have one more minute to outline basics why.
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I'm at work sorry I don't have time to go back and find posts I'm looking for. I placed my lynch early so it didn't look like a band wagon and two votes does not make a band wagon either.

I already said one reason - no votes on Mel at all. How many wolves have you actually helped get rid of?

Using your meta as an excuse as to why you're village is a pointless argument. "Oh I'm not a wolf because I do this as a wolf" is wifom at best and detracts from actual analysis of your current gameplay. This is something you and dubz both do.

Here's proof of why it doesn't work. 2 nights ago you and dubz were on a DocE lynch. You both came off the lynch because"DocE would never do this as a wolf" and lo and behold he was.
 
Dinashadow said:
I'm at work sorry I don't have time to go back and find posts I'm looking for. I placed my lynch early so it didn't look like a band wagon and two votes does not make a band wagon either.

I already said one reason - no votes on Mel at all. How many wolves have you actually helped get rid of?

Using your meta as an excuse as to why you're village is a pointless argument. "Oh I'm not a wolf because I do this as a wolf" is wifom at best and detracts from actual analysis of your current gameplay. This is something you and dubz both do.

Here's proof of why it doesn't work. 2 nights ago you and dubz were on a DocE lynch. You both came off the lynch because"DocE would never do this as a wolf" and lo and behold he was.
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We don't know for sure that he was a wolf that day. And yes, sometimes that kind of meta analysis fails. Not always though, and you do have to look at each argument in context, not just say "Well that's WIFOM" and disregard. Otherwise nothing we say here matters.

If Doc was a wolf that day, and if SOV is village, then perhaps he voted in that direction because he thought he could save mel but if he failed he could make the argument that he wouldn't do that as a wolf. Medium risk, high reward if mel doesn't get lynched. That is different from directing the village's attention to a wolf and then not voting for them. The benefit of bringing that kind of negative attention to a packmate is lost if you don't end up lynching them. Makes things harder for them, without the reciprocal reward. High risk, low reward, not good wolf play.
 
Dinashadow said:
I'm at work sorry I don't have time to go back and find posts I'm looking for. I placed my lynch early so it didn't look like a band wagon and two votes does not make a band wagon either.

I already said one reason - no votes on Mel at all. How many wolves have you actually helped get rid of?

Using your meta as an excuse as to why you're village is a pointless argument. "Oh I'm not a wolf because I do this as a wolf" is wifom at best and detracts from actual analysis of your current gameplay. This is something you and dubz both do.

Here's proof of why it doesn't work. 2 nights ago you and dubz were on a DocE lynch. You both came off the lynch because"DocE would never do this as a wolf" and lo and behold he was.
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doesnt matter. I am willing to die to take you down, feel likewise?
 
StartingoverVet said:
Either way works
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I'd advise against the three way just because the mods may put your name in the pot twice if you are both tie maker and one of the tied parties

So ideal would be for one of us to make a tie between the other two
 
WildZoo said:
I'd advise against the three way just because the mods may put your name in the pot twice if you are both tie maker and one of the tied parties

So ideal would be for one of us to make a tie between the other two
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Doesn’t make a difference if I die or not, as long as 2 people do, of course I prefer to live, but it is not important. The survivor, if game isn’t over, gets lynched tomorrow,
 
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