Nova Southeastern Univ (NSU-COM) Discussion Thread 2013 - 2014

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Temperature101 said:
Top 5 IMO... Better than a lot of MD schools. Great Location. Solid rotations etc...
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The location and rotations might be great but their residency match list for last year wasn't that impressive. There are other DO schools that had better matches for their students. But regardless Nova is still a good option for most.
 
Word on the street is that the adcom extended too many offers of acceptance last year and as a result, my class is over-filled by about 20-30 people. Apparently this is why they've decided to change the admissions process up- they want to better control how many people to accept. Take that with a grain of salt because it's just what a friend with some connection to the staff told me. Someone brought it up earlier in the thread, but I doubt that Anastasia leaving has anything to do with it. The lower amount of II's on SDN could very well be a result of the change. If this is true, it's good news for those of you who receive II's because it could mean a good chance of acceptance in the long run.

Lastly, a lot of interviewees have been asking about the WL. I've been told that this also has to do with the change in the admissions process and is supposed to prevent over-accepting applicants. It sucks, but it's a way for NSU to re-review and compare applicants in larger chunks. It also gives candidates who interview in the Spring a chance of acceptance still, since less seats will be filled by then compared to last year. As a side note, I know receiving a WL instead of an acceptance is less than ideal, but remember that schools don't owe you anything. It's easy to feel entitled during this process after putting in years of work, but there are thousands and thousands of applicants competing for a limited number of seats. Anyway, good luck you guys. Hopefully there will be some WL movement soon.
 
I understand what you're saying Neko, but (just my opinion) I feel Nova is going to lose a lot of talented students this year by making this change. Those who worked hard to have their applications submitted on the first day have demonstrated the drive to succeed that is necessary for school. Why else would we have busted hump to get everything in so early? By Nova passing on the vast majority of us, that had opened the door for us to attend other schools. I know that's my circumstance. I would have cancelled all other interviews had I gotten a Nova acceptance instead of a WL, but I didn't and now I'll be matriculating elsewhere.

Again, I understand where you are coming from, but I believe Nova made a mistake with all these WL's so early in the cycle and students aren't going to wait around until April for them to come calling.
 
NB always setting us premed straight.

Still weird that there's lack of II's tho. Also this isn't anything new, a lot of MD schools tend to do this so that there's still spots all the way to the last day of interviews.
 
Back 5 said:
I understand what you're saying Neko, but (just my opinion) I feel Nova is going to lose a lot of talented students this year by making this change. Those who worked hard to have their applications submitted on the first day have demonstrated the drive to succeed that is necessary for school. Why else would we have busted hump to get everything in so early? By Nova passing on the vast majority of us, that had opened the door for us to attend other schools. I know that's my circumstance. I would have cancelled all other interviews had I gotten a Nova acceptance instead of a WL, but I didn't and now I'll be matriculating elsewhere.

Again, I understand where you are coming from, but I believe Nova made a mistake with all these WL's so early in the cycle and students aren't going to wait around until April for them to come calling.
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I'm in the same boat here. Not always fun to hear that they'll only go to the dance with you if a hotter guy doesn't come to call haha. The mentality only gets reinforced when people have to put down deposits. I know it's a drop in the bucket in the long run but if the differences between certain schools aren't that great for some people, eating a chunk of change could sway a person. I know I loved nsu when I went, but I also got an acceptance from another of my top three, so it's definitely hard to say no to not having to deal with the extra stress of waiting for an answer from nsu after getting an wl so early in the cycle.
 
I wish I could know if I were even complete or not lol. My NSU portal doesn't tell me anything lmao.
 
No one owes the other party anything in this process. However, it's still highly inconsiderate of NSUCOM to interview people without giving a sizable portion of them any serious consideration for acceptance by shuffling them onto the WL soon thereafter.

Most of the people who interview have finite resources, and this process is decidedly expensive. If NSUCOM wants to be more selective, then it's the COM's prerogative. They can be more reasonable with how they are being more selective, however. They can be more selective by extending less interviews to people instead of the en masse post-interview WL method they're currently utilizing. By selecting fewer people at the pre-interview stage, they can save themselves and applicants money.
 
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My main criticism is that Nova is basically pushing away qualified applicants who cared enough and were able to submit their application early. Sure, they may get an acceptance eventually, but I doubt that many people are going to wait to hear back from them. I personally would not, and seeing the mess that the admissions office is in, I'm not very interested in the school anymore.

I feel like a non-rolling admissions process would have been the best choice, based on my limited knowledge of the school. It would allow them to compare larger pools of applicants while wasting fewer resources on waitlisting/accepting/rejecting applicants that they would otherwise do something different with. It would also eliminate the expectation of a quick response and high chance of acceptance that many applicants had from early interviews.
 
What the hell do you mean earliest and finest? I was offered an interview in the VERY first batch they were offered, so I must've been a quality/early applicant. I just chose to interview in October for financial reasons, and I think anything before Dec. is early
 
Early applicant being best is a misnomer. Statistically, as the interview season goes on people with higher stats apply later. Another fun thing to think about (I know it's been said before) - how do you know an applicant truly wants to come to your school? Put them on the waitlist. If they are truly invested, then they'll instantly accept if the offer comes.
 
Jwalker said:
If they are truly invested, then they'll instantly accept if the offer comes.
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Would you recommend an applicant to decline an acceptance (ie- not put $2,000 deposit down within two weeks of notification) just in hopes that months down the line, Nova accepts them? No matter how much someone loves a school, that doesn't seem like too great of an idea to me. Why even apply to more than one school?
 
teres said:
My main criticism is that Nova is basically pushing away qualified applicants who cared enough and were able to submit their application early. Sure, they may get an acceptance eventually, but I doubt that many people are going to wait to hear back from them. I personally would not, and seeing the mess that the admissions office is in, I'm not very interested in the school anymore.

I feel like a non-rolling admissions process would have been the best choice, based on my limited knowledge of the school. It would allow them to compare larger pools of applicants while wasting fewer resources on waitlisting/accepting/rejecting applicants that they would otherwise do something different with. It would also eliminate the expectation of a quick response and high chance of acceptance that many applicants had from early interviews.
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I don't think this is the right way to look at things. There's tons of qualified applicants. I mean ****, med school and IB are the two hardest industries to break into and at least for med school you have a shot if you're qualified enough.

Just stay humble and know that your time will come. Trust me. I'm a reapplicant and going through this process freaking sucks, but nothing is granted. Just continue to work hard and your time will come.
 
lamborghiniMD said:
What the hell do you mean earliest and finest? I was offered an interview in the VERY first batch they were offered, so I must've been a quality/early applicant. I just chose to interview in October for financial reasons, and I think anything before Dec. is early
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Those were not my words, and not at all what I was suggesting. These were my words, I suggest you read them carefully: "qualified applicants who cared enough and were able to submit their application early."

I was also offered an early interview in the first batch. Early II or early submission does not automatically equal high quality, and that was not my point. Submitting early requires planning and management of multiple factors, and that clearly should account for something. If not, why would so many people try to submit their applications and interview as early as possible every year, without fail? Of course this is just my opinion.

Obviously Nova (or any other school for that matter) owes nothing to any applicant. However, just as I am expected by medical schools to have a timely, high quality application and interview, I also expect an efficient, unbiased, and systematic application process. I don't feel like Nova has performed their expectations well, but again, that is just my opinion. I believe that this is caused by poor management of the admissions process at NSU-COM. At the end of the day they are the one with power, and I honestly don't expect any change due to my opinion.
 
HopefulReapp said:
Would you recommend an applicant to decline an acceptance (ie- not put $2,000 deposit down within two weeks of notification) just in hopes that months down the line, Nova accepts them? No matter how much someone loves a school, that doesn't seem like too great of an idea to me. Why even apply to more than one school?
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Not at all. Make the deposit. There's no rule saying you can't make more than one deposit. If you have an acceptance, roll with it. If another school you like pulls you from the waitlist down the road, then go to it. Deposits are just seat holders - not full acceptances. Med school only gets more expensive. 2,000 is nothing in the long run.
 
Jwalker said:
Not at all. Make the deposit. There's no rule saying you can't make more than one deposit. If you have an acceptance, roll with it. If another school you like pulls you from the waitlist down the road, then go to it. Deposits are just seat holders - not full acceptances. Med school only gets more expensive. 2,000 is nothing in the long run.
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I have a few hundred dollars left in my bank account after draining it for interviews. If I had 40k in loans I wouldn't mind using it on a deposit, but unfortunately those come next year. The majority of applicants aren't in their second career or have so's who can help with the money. Those with parents who can support them are in a good place, but the rest of us earning $10 an hour for an entry level healthcare job will probably be hard pressed to find an extra two thousand dollars.
 
HopefulReapp said:
I have a few hundred dollars left in my bank account after draining it for interviews. If I had 40k in loans I wouldn't mind using it on a deposit, but unfortunately those come next year. The majority of applicants aren't in their second career or have so's who can help with the money. Those with parents who can support them are in a good place, but the rest of us earning $10 an hour for an entry level healthcare job will probably be hard pressed to find an extra two thousand dollars.
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call the school and tell them you want to come but only have "x" amount of dollars in your account, then tell them the schedule of payments you can make to pay the rest of deposit

then send them the "x" amount of dollars, make payments on your deposit and go to medical school

don't blow off an acceptance
 
Looks like they are working on our apps. I already interviewed and sent in everything but, for some reason it said I had outstanding paperwork that was due. I look at my summary and I see they rerecieved my MCAT scores yesterday, they probably thought I was retaking ( I shadowed a physician at NSu told her I was planning on retaking and never did)........ not concerned though already have accepted to a medical school that was higher on my list than NSU.

I wanted to/ was going to withdraw my app but I am curious to see what they decided on me.

I probably going to get rejected because they probably figure out who I am by what I type on sdn.
 
sb247 said:
call the school and tell them you want to come but only have "x" amount of dollars in your account, then tell them the schedule of payments you can make to pay the rest of deposit

then send them the "x" amount of dollars, make payments on your deposit and go to medical school

don't blow off an acceptance
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I don't think he is blowing off an acceptance. It's a legitimate gripe to have Nova randomly WL the vast majority of their interviews and assume they are going to come running if/when they call in April (or whenever).

$2,000 to one school, $2,000 to another and then an immediate deposit for Nova if they call at the end of the cycle is a TON of money to be spending on this process.

I'm not saying anyone is entitled to anything, but I, for one, will question a schools motivations when they aren't at all open about things. This builds distrust, especially when you have such a large body of evidence that things were dramatically different for years previously.

I really liked Nova. They were at the top of my list. Until this year. I'm not upset and I'm not harboring a grudge, I'm just explaining why I think this year and the way they have changed the cycle without any real communication is not the proper way to conduct themselves.

Your opinion may vary.
 
Back 5 said:
I understand what you're saying Neko, but (just my opinion) I feel Nova is going to lose a lot of talented students this year by making this change. Those who worked hard to have their applications submitted on the first day have demonstrated the drive to succeed that is necessary for school. Why else would we have busted hump to get everything in so early? By Nova passing on the vast majority of us, that had opened the door for us to attend other schools. I know that's my circumstance. I would have cancelled all other interviews had I gotten a Nova acceptance instead of a WL, but I didn't and now I'll be matriculating elsewhere.

Again, I understand where you are coming from, but I believe Nova made a mistake with all these WL's so early in the cycle and students aren't going to wait around until April for them to come calling.
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I agree with you, if NSU let candidate know if they were A/W/R on a pace like ACOM, I would of never interviewed at the medical school which I am now going to matriculate at.
 
HopefulReapp said:
I have a few hundred dollars left in my bank account after draining it for interviews. If I had 40k in loans I wouldn't mind using it on a deposit, but unfortunately those come next year. The majority of applicants aren't in their second career or have so's who can help with the money. Those with parents who can support them are in a good place, but the rest of us earning $10 an hour for an entry level healthcare job will probably be hard pressed to find an extra two thousand dollars.
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Well stated.
 
I feel the frustrations. I was in love with Nova but since then they lost me to CCOM or DMU so at this point I'm just :corny:
 
Lol. Guess we keep waiting. inb4 november 8th.
 
Jumpstartmy5HT said:
No one owes the other party anything in this process. However, it's still highly inconsiderate of NSUCOM to interview people without giving a sizable portion of them any serious consideration for acceptance by shuffling them onto the WL soon thereafter.

Most of the people who interview have finite resources, and this process is decidedly expensive. If NSUCOM wants to be more selective, then it's the COM's prerogative. They can be more reasonable with how they are being more selective, however. They can be more selective by extending less interviews to people instead of the en masse post-interview WL method they're currently utilizing. By selecting fewer people at the pre-interview stage, they can save themselves and applicants money.
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IMO, if they gave you an II, they were seriously considering accepting you.

I agree the application process is expensive and I was also frustrated with how some schools ran things when I applied last year. However, we're at the mercy of the schools. They could select fewer people for interviews and make it easier for everyone, but schools need a safety net of students to fall back on just in case people decide to attend elsewhere. This safety net is the WL. I agree with Back5 that doing this gives students the opportunity to drop NSU all together. However, Nova is definitely not the first or only school to do something like this. They must be confident that they will fill all of their seats. We'll just have to see what happens with WL as time goes on. There's only been 1 batch (to my knowledge) of post-interview decisions after all.
 
Yes, today. At first I was emailed by nsu abt. my paperwork not being complete and then I received an acceptance email from Brian Waitekus.
 
Was there a work experience section on the secondary?

I'm going through the PDF and don't see mine. I think I remember a work experience section.
 
Good luck to everyone expecting a decision soon! I'm just hoping to hear back by Nov 8th.
 
Cancelled my 10/31 interview if anyone wants it! GL everyone!
 
Cancelled my 11/14 interview yesterday & withdrew my application. Good luck to everyone else! 🙂
 
I was notified this morning at 930 est. gpa 3.29 sgpa 3.45 mcat 27. Highest composite mcat 28. I'm not traditional with a post bacc gpa of a 3.93
 
I'm withdrawing my application. I have other acceptances and I can't wait on Nova any longer. Good luck everyone!!!
 
I was completely shocked to hear back this soon. I hope all of you hear back really soon and I am really excited to go here!!
 
Omg i think I remember you. You must've been really special if they accepted you over the other interviews before you, especially a week later!. That's great. I hope I get in this school too :X
 
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