Nov 4, 2019
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Dental Student
Hi everyone,
Is there anybody who can switch Interfaith interview times with me? I am scheduled for the December 6th 9am session and would like to switch to the December 6th 1pm session. I’m pretty desperate to switch and willing to offer an incentive! Please let me know!
 
Oct 12, 2019
4
4
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Dental Student
I need some advice! I interviewed on Friday at a Non-Match program. I thought my interview went pretty well and they said they'll let us know if we have a position within the next 2 weeks or so (way before Match). My dilemma is: if I get the position, do I have to withdraw from Match? I've had a few more interviews that I think went okay and planning on ranking them. I don't know what to do.

Also, do other programs seem to really sell their program to attract more applicants? I feel like on Friday all they talked about was how amazing the program is but then they only have 2 full-time faculty for 8 residents and no other specialists besides pedo on staff (no endo, no ortho, no OS), not to mention that the health system they're affiliated with has a reputation of losing GME accreditation for medical residencies.
If they offer you a position, you typically only have a week or so to accept, from what I've heard. Once you accept the position, you are required to withdraw from the Match system. Otherwise, you can decline the position and remain in the Match pool. It's a tricky situation if you're offered a spot, and I wish you the best if they reach out to you! Was it Children's Michigan? I declined to interview there mainly because of that very issue: if they offered me a spot, I don't think I would accept it because it isn't anywhere near my top choice for a program for personal reasons, and it would invalidate all the other interviews I invested time and money into that I felt were successful.

If you were to accept and somehow not withdraw from Match, you would face legal ramifications. Once you match with a program, you are legally bound to attend at that program. And I believe if you accept a spot at a non-Match program, they make you sign something that requires you to withdraw. So there isn't really a way to back out of it once you accept.
 
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Aqtie002

2+ Year Member
Sep 30, 2017
21
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Dental Student
I need some advice! I interviewed on Friday at a Non-Match program. I thought my interview went pretty well and they said they'll let us know if we have a position within the next 2 weeks or so (way before Match). My dilemma is: if I get the position, do I have to withdraw from Match? I've had a few more interviews that I think went okay and planning on ranking them. I don't know what to do.

Also, do other programs seem to really sell their program to attract more applicants? I feel like on Friday all they talked about was how amazing the program is but then they only have 2 full-time faculty for 8 residents and no other specialists besides pedo on staff (no endo, no ortho, no OS), not to mention that the health system they're affiliated with has a reputation of losing GME accreditation for medical residencies.
Agree with everything saxman526. Did you have some interviews at programs that participate in MATCH yet? Because if you did then I would sit down and start thinking of pros and cons of each program you’ve been to so far.
You are spending 2 years at this program so really think about what you want out of these places. After making your pros/cons, if the non-match program is your top choice then go for it and decline the other programs. If it isn’t, then you should consider taking the risk and ranking the Match programs. At this point, you worked hard to earn these interviews so I wouldn’t pick the non-match just because you’re guaranteed a spot, or you’ll end up unhappy for 2 years if it doesn’t provide for you what other programs offer.
 
Mar 28, 2018
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Dental Student
Hey everyone! I'm looking into peds residency as a D3. This kind of caught me by surprise because I didn't realize I liked working on kids until, well, I worked on some.

I have not been hustling in school when it comes to my grades. I didn't know I wanted to specialize until recently, so I just focused on relaxing and learning, getting mostly Bs and a few Cs in my courses.

DMD GPA: 3.24
Class Rank: Bottom Quartile
I'm concurrently pursuing my MPH with my DMD and am doing well in those courses.
I have good contacts for letters of recommendation
I have 2yrs experience volunteering with kids in a mobile dental clinic from Undergrad
I've done 2 mission trips in Africa working with kids
I have one externship to a pediatric dental school confirmed, and will be looking into another one.
I've done three events at my school for kids; two were education focused, the third will be next semester and will be hands on dentistry.

So I'm concerned with my GPA and class rank as it pertains to my chances for peds residency. What do you guys think? Is my overall application strong, or do you have any other strategies for boosting my portfolio? What do you think my chances are?
 

dentinthecomments

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Jan 9, 2016
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potential 2020-2021 cycle applicant here with a question: is there a comprehensive list of programs that allow externships? does boston children's offer them? thx
 
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ege

2+ Year Member
Jun 7, 2017
21
1
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Dentist
Did anyone receive any communication from places they interviewed that they would be ranked highly?
Quote from the match communication rules:
  • “Although allowed, many programs choose not to inform applicants of their intent to rank them in order to allow the Match to proceed without pressure for communication between parties after interviews.”
 
Oct 25, 2018
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Did anyone got any communication ( school where I did not receive any interview) that they are done with interviews but still kept my application on hold??? What does it mean ....I never got this kind of rejection letter ever... I got many. Cannot disclose the school though
 
Dec 16, 2019
2
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Dental Student
I am trying to rank my list, but dont know which to put in front of the other. Between Interfaith or Jacobi hospital in NY. Any advice??
 
Oct 25, 2018
19
6
Can anyone go over the details of how post-match works?
As far as I know last year after match when the non matched positions were out , send your application through post match site of school / hospitals. There are more chances if you had applied to those schools/ hospitals or already had interviews with them. I got one interview in post match but was not offered position. You can also see some trends that some schools/ hospitals etc are having open positions after match from so many consecutive years like NYU etc
 
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Mar 18, 2019
7
10
Status
Dental Student
Where will the match results be posted? On the dental match program website where we submitted our ranking list? At noon?
 

arlmay

5+ Year Member
Oct 29, 2013
279
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Resident [Any Field], Dentist
Where will the match results be posted? On the dental match program website where we submitted our ranking list? At noon?
They will be emailed to you, usually around 8am. Program directors get match results around noon. Make sure to check your spam folder if you don't see anything and avoid a heart attack. Ask me how I know.
 
Mar 18, 2019
7
10
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They will be emailed to you, usually around 8am. Program directors get match results around noon. Make sure to check your spam folder if you don't see anything and avoid a heart attack. Ask me how I know.
THANK YOU! 8 AM EST or CST?
 
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allsmilesdds

2+ Year Member
Mar 24, 2016
17
6
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Dental Student
Congrats to everyone that matched! It's an exciting feeling and I wanted to start sharing information on where we all matched.

Let's get this thread going...

Program Matched:
Dental School Attended:
Year Earned DMD/DDS:
International Student (yes/no):
NBME scores:
Class Ranking/Size:
Externship(s)/where:
Research:
Extracurriculars:
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked/Ranked position:

And to all of those who didn't match this cycle, keep your head up and best of luck with post match and your future endeavors!
 
Sep 30, 2019
5
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Dentist
Program Matched: Minnesota
Dental School Attended: Colorado
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2014
International Student (yes/no): NO
Board Score Part 1: 90 Part 2: Pass DAT: 93.7 percentile (30 on Ochem)
Class Ranking/Size: 14/52 GPA 3.58
Externship(s)/where: Colorado Children’s (Terrible Experience)
Research: Zilch, Nada, Zero
Extracurriculars: Class President Senior Year, minor clubs.
Work Experience: 5 plus years as a Dentist at a pediatric focused dental practice with 3 of those years completing 10-20 plus cases per month under GA in office.
Programs Applied to/Interview: 18 (I wanted it.)
Invites/Interviews attended/Programs: 5 invites, 5 attended, 5 ranked.
Ranked/Ranked position: Got into first choice: Minnesota

I only applied to positions that paid. Truth is the truth. Only applied to positions that don’t make you get a masters. I like to work. Any extra school ruffles my feather. Refer back to my absolute zero research background. I see it’s benefit. Just not for me.

I’m happy as can be. I hope my info helps someone. I interviewed with a lot of people still in dental school and it intimidated me being (barely) over 30.

Truly, good luck to everyone out there.
 
Aug 11, 2019
5
6
Status
Dentist
Program Matched: UT Health San Antonio (Laredo Site) pre-match
Dental School Attended: University of Florida
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2013
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: low 80s part 1, part 2: pass
Class Ranking/Size: Bottom 1/3 of roughly 80
Externship(s)/where: None
Research: None
Extracurriculars: Involved in coaching youth sports and youth fitness programs over the past five years.
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked/Ranked position: 35/10/7/0(pre-match offer, so withdrew)
My only calling cards were lots of experience treating children and passion for the speciality.

My passion for pediatric dentistry has evolved over the six years of practice treating children as a general dentist. I did not submit a faculty eval, did not have stellar grades, but I had passion to get trained better to serve the population I have seen during my time as a dentist. So if you are someone who has experience, but lacking in other areas, believe. I knew I was committed to do this, and I believe those who interviewed me, could feel that energy in the interviews. I applied to a lot of programs, because I wasn't sure what programs were okay with experience, who was willing to give me an interview without a faculty eval, and having a lower class rank. I pre-matched at Nova also, but declined because it didn't feel right for me, and they only give you a week decide, which I did not know was the case, until I arrive for the interview. Just a heads up for future applicants with Nova.
 
Oct 12, 2019
4
4
Status
Dental Student
I guess the NYU programs cutting their pay didn’t work out for them...
Historically, the Langone programs actually did really well this year--the Maryland site being the only exception. The Tennessee program had something weird going on this year because they didn't extend any invitations to interview prior to Match. Dr. Okuji said that the program's spots would all be available for post-match.
 
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Jan 23, 2020
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Dental Student
Program Matched: Minnesota
Dental School Attended: Colorado
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2014
International Student (yes/no): NO
Board Score Part 1: 90 Part 2: Pass DAT: 93.7 percentile (30 on Ochem)
Class Ranking/Size: 14/52 GPA 3.58
Externship(s)/where: Colorado Children’s (Terrible Experience)
Research: Zilch, Nada, Zero
Extracurriculars: Class President Senior Year, minor clubs.
Work Experience: 5 plus years as a Dentist at a pediatric focused dental practice with 3 of those years completing 10-20 plus cases per month under GA in office.
Programs Applied to/Interview: 18 (I wanted it.)
Invites/Interviews attended/Programs: 5 invites, 5 attended, 5 ranked.
Ranked/Ranked position: Got into first choice: Minnesota

I only applied to positions that paid. Truth is the truth. Only applied to positions that don’t make you get a masters. I like to work. Any extra school ruffles my feather. Refer back to my absolute zero research background. I see it’s benefit. Just not for me.

I’m happy as can be. I hope my info helps someone. I interviewed with a lot of people still in dental school and it intimidated me being (barely) over 30.

Truly, good luck to everyone out there.
Was there a reason why the externship was terrible at Colorado?
 
Feb 2, 2020
3
2
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Dentist
(I already posted about this on a different thread, but I wanted to ask the Pedo 2020 pool) :

Is it common for schools to add a post-match position just for an applicant?

This cycle, I interviewed at a decent number of spots, but ended up needing to post match. In the end, I recently accepted a GPR position in NYC. I am planning on re-applying to Peds next year.

I have a couple classmates and friends who also applied this year. They told me that one of their friends has a classmate who got “accepted” to a school program last minute. The interesting part, is that the school initially never had a post-match spot open, and just accepted an extra, for one of their students who didn’t get in on the day of match. During the interview cycle, the school program advertised the initial number of spots to be opened. If people knew of that school offering post-match, I know that many people would have applied, myself included.

Most students of that school seem to know of this case, and told my friend that it doesn’t seem fair for that program to suddenly accept another spot - maybe the student has connections? Or money? All assumptions, but still not fair, for those who matched or post-matched or was looking to match. Is it just me that knows of this case, and feels that it devalues the point of match and post-matching?
 

Aqtie002

2+ Year Member
Sep 30, 2017
21
12
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Dental Student
(I already posted about this on a different thread, but I wanted to ask the Pedo 2020 pool) :

Is it common for schools to add a post-match position just for an applicant?

This cycle, I interviewed at a decent number of spots, but ended up needing to post match. In the end, I recently accepted a GPR position in NYC. I am planning on re-applying to Peds next year.

I have a couple classmates and friends who also applied this year. They told me that one of their friends has a classmate who got “accepted” to a school program last minute. The interesting part, is that the school initially never had a post-match spot open, and just accepted an extra, for one of their students who didn’t get in on the day of match. During the interview cycle, the school program advertised the initial number of spots to be opened. If people knew of that school offering post-match, I know that many people would have applied, myself included.

Most students of that school seem to know of this case, and told my friend that it doesn’t seem fair for that program to suddenly accept another spot - maybe the student has connections? Or money? All assumptions, but still not fair, for those who matched or post-matched or was looking to match. Is it just me that knows of this case, and feels that it devalues the point of match and post-matching?
I’m sorry that you had to go through all the post match. Kudos though for getting into a GPR and your willingness to apply to Pedo again. The situation does seem very unfair if that information you heard is correct. Unfortunately when it comes to applying, connections do make a small difference whether it’s a personal one via externships, interviews or based on who you know. Pedo is a smaller group compared to overall dentistry and a lot of program directors know each other very well through the years. I know a letter from my Pedo program director weighs a lot for certain Pedo programs because she’s friends with those directors. Not saying it’s a guaranteed spot, but it does give certain applicants a leg up because those directors trust her recommendations. Maybe try to get your name out there during your GPR, or start networking so you can make connections with people of the Pedo community and impress them with what you have to offer to the program. Best of luck in NYC!
 
Feb 2, 2020
3
2
Status
Dentist
I’m sorry that you had to go through all the post match. Kudos though for getting into a GPR and your willingness to apply to Pedo again. The situation does seem very unfair if that information you heard is correct. Unfortunately when it comes to applying, connections do make a small difference whether it’s a personal one via externships, interviews or based on who you know. Pedo is a smaller group compared to overall dentistry and a lot of program directors know each other very well through the years. I know a letter from my Pedo program director weighs a lot for certain Pedo programs because she’s friends with those directors. Not saying it’s a guaranteed spot, but it does give certain applicants a leg up because those directors trust her recommendations. Maybe try to get your name out there during your GPR, or start networking so you can make connections with people of the Pedo community and impress them with what you have to offer to the program. Best of luck in NYC!
I almost didn't believe it too. According to my classmate's friend, it seems that that school in specific advertised to select 8 residents per year, but ended up accepting that one extra just a couple days ago. Only notified the future co-residents via email, that another will be joining suddenly. Not sure what'll happen to those residents' stipends either. The extra added person apparently went from having to post-match/GPR like the rest of us, to suddenly getting his/her top choice of rank. If that system exists why bother going through ranking and matching? Maybe it's out of pure jealousy that I am shocked.

Also, thank you for saying that. Will network more this year, which is fine. I'll have to try harder, like the rest of us who didn't match.
 
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