**Official 2020 Pedo PASS/Interviews/Match/Non-Match**

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2infinity&beyond said:
I need some advice! I interviewed on Friday at a Non-Match program. I thought my interview went pretty well and they said they'll let us know if we have a position within the next 2 weeks or so (way before Match). My dilemma is: if I get the position, do I have to withdraw from Match? I've had a few more interviews that I think went okay and planning on ranking them. I don't know what to do.

Also, do other programs seem to really sell their program to attract more applicants? I feel like on Friday all they talked about was how amazing the program is but then they only have 2 full-time faculty for 8 residents and no other specialists besides pedo on staff (no endo, no ortho, no OS), not to mention that the health system they're affiliated with has a reputation of losing GME accreditation for medical residencies.
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Agree with everything saxman526. Did you have some interviews at programs that participate in MATCH yet? Because if you did then I would sit down and start thinking of pros and cons of each program you’ve been to so far.
You are spending 2 years at this program so really think about what you want out of these places. After making your pros/cons, if the non-match program is your top choice then go for it and decline the other programs. If it isn’t, then you should consider taking the risk and ranking the Match programs. At this point, you worked hard to earn these interviews so I wouldn’t pick the non-match just because you’re guaranteed a spot, or you’ll end up unhappy for 2 years if it doesn’t provide for you what other programs offer.
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Can someone please switch Mount Sinai interview with me? Mine is on December 9th!
 
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potential 2020-2021 cycle applicant here with a question: is there a comprehensive list of programs that allow externships? does boston children's offer them? thx
 
Did NYU Langone Tennessee ever send out invites? I heard they are only post match would be shady IMO
 
Did anyone receive any communication from places they interviewed that they would be ranked highly?
 
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freshdds said:
Did anyone receive any communication from places they interviewed that they would be ranked highly?
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Quote from the match communication rules:
  • “Although allowed, many programs choose not to inform applicants of their intent to rank them in order to allow the Match to proceed without pressure for communication between parties after interviews.”
 
Did anyone got any communication ( school where I did not receive any interview) that they are done with interviews but still kept my application on hold??? What does it mean ....I never got this kind of rejection letter ever... I got many. Cannot disclose the school though
 
Does anyone know or have heard about how the Pediatric dental program is at Interfaith Hospital in NY?
 
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I am trying to rank my list, but dont know which to put in front of the other. Between Interfaith or Jacobi hospital in NY. Any advice??
 
dentmaster123 said:
Can anyone go over the details of how post-match works?
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As far as I know last year after match when the non matched positions were out , send your application through post match site of school / hospitals. There are more chances if you had applied to those schools/ hospitals or already had interviews with them. I got one interview in post match but was not offered position. You can also see some trends that some schools/ hospitals etc are having open positions after match from so many consecutive years like NYU etc
 
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These last few days are torture.
 
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Anybody else obsessing over their chances of matching knowing full well they’re being ridiculous and have no control at this point.. or just me..
 
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Pedo09876 said:
Anybody else obsessing over their chances of matching knowing full well they’re being ridiculous and have no control at this point.. or just me..
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Focusing on patients is getting tougher and tougher
 
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Where will the match results be posted? On the dental match program website where we submitted our ranking list? At noon?
 
dentmaster123 said:
Where will the match results be posted? On the dental match program website where we submitted our ranking list? At noon?
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They will be emailed to you, usually around 8am. Program directors get match results around noon. Make sure to check your spam folder if you don't see anything and avoid a heart attack. Ask me how I know.
 
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arlmay said:
They will be emailed to you, usually around 8am. Program directors get match results around noon. Make sure to check your spam folder if you don't see anything and avoid a heart attack. Ask me how I know.
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THANK YOU! 8 AM EST or CST?
 
Can someone please post a list of post match programs tomorrow
 
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Match results out. Good luck everyone!
 
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Congrats to everyone that matched! It's an exciting feeling and I wanted to start sharing information on where we all matched.

Let's get this thread going...

Program Matched:
Dental School Attended:
Year Earned DMD/DDS:
International Student (yes/no):
NBME scores:
Class Ranking/Size:
Externship(s)/where:
Research:
Extracurriculars:
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked/Ranked position:

And to all of those who didn't match this cycle, keep your head up and best of luck with post match and your future endeavors!
 
Program Matched: Minnesota
Dental School Attended: Colorado
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2014
International Student (yes/no): NO
Board Score Part 1: 90 Part 2: Pass DAT: 93.7 percentile (30 on Ochem)
Class Ranking/Size: 14/52 GPA 3.58
Externship(s)/where: Colorado Children’s (Terrible Experience)
Research: Zilch, Nada, Zero
Extracurriculars: Class President Senior Year, minor clubs.
Work Experience: 5 plus years as a Dentist at a pediatric focused dental practice with 3 of those years completing 10-20 plus cases per month under GA in office.
Programs Applied to/Interview: 18 (I wanted it.)
Invites/Interviews attended/Programs: 5 invites, 5 attended, 5 ranked.
Ranked/Ranked position: Got into first choice: Minnesota

I only applied to positions that paid. Truth is the truth. Only applied to positions that don’t make you get a masters. I like to work. Any extra school ruffles my feather. Refer back to my absolute zero research background. I see it’s benefit. Just not for me.

I’m happy as can be. I hope my info helps someone. I interviewed with a lot of people still in dental school and it intimidated me being (barely) over 30.

Truly, good luck to everyone out there.
 
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Program Matched: UT Health San Antonio (Laredo Site) pre-match
Dental School Attended: University of Florida
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2013
International Student (yes/no): no
NBME scores: low 80s part 1, part 2: pass
Class Ranking/Size: Bottom 1/3 of roughly 80
Externship(s)/where: None
Research: None
Extracurriculars: Involved in coaching youth sports and youth fitness programs over the past five years.
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked/Ranked position: 35/10/7/0(pre-match offer, so withdrew)
My only calling cards were lots of experience treating children and passion for the speciality.

My passion for pediatric dentistry has evolved over the six years of practice treating children as a general dentist. I did not submit a faculty eval, did not have stellar grades, but I had passion to get trained better to serve the population I have seen during my time as a dentist. So if you are someone who has experience, but lacking in other areas, believe. I knew I was committed to do this, and I believe those who interviewed me, could feel that energy in the interviews. I applied to a lot of programs, because I wasn't sure what programs were okay with experience, who was willing to give me an interview without a faculty eval, and having a lower class rank. I pre-matched at Nova also, but declined because it didn't feel right for me, and they only give you a week decide, which I did not know was the case, until I arrive for the interview. Just a heads up for future applicants with Nova.
 
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Xx1Achilles1xX said:
I guess the NYU programs cutting their pay didn’t work out for them...
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Historically, the Langone programs actually did really well this year--the Maryland site being the only exception. The Tennessee program had something weird going on this year because they didn't extend any invitations to interview prior to Match. Dr. Okuji said that the program's spots would all be available for post-match.
 
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Xx1Achilles1xX said:
Program Matched: Minnesota
Dental School Attended: Colorado
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2014
International Student (yes/no): NO
Board Score Part 1: 90 Part 2: Pass DAT: 93.7 percentile (30 on Ochem)
Class Ranking/Size: 14/52 GPA 3.58
Externship(s)/where: Colorado Children’s (Terrible Experience)
Research: Zilch, Nada, Zero
Extracurriculars: Class President Senior Year, minor clubs.
Work Experience: 5 plus years as a Dentist at a pediatric focused dental practice with 3 of those years completing 10-20 plus cases per month under GA in office.
Programs Applied to/Interview: 18 (I wanted it.)
Invites/Interviews attended/Programs: 5 invites, 5 attended, 5 ranked.
Ranked/Ranked position: Got into first choice: Minnesota

I only applied to positions that paid. Truth is the truth. Only applied to positions that don’t make you get a masters. I like to work. Any extra school ruffles my feather. Refer back to my absolute zero research background. I see it’s benefit. Just not for me.

I’m happy as can be. I hope my info helps someone. I interviewed with a lot of people still in dental school and it intimidated me being (barely) over 30.

Truly, good luck to everyone out there.
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Was there a reason why the externship was terrible at Colorado?
 
(I already posted about this on a different thread, but I wanted to ask the Pedo 2020 pool) :

Is it common for schools to add a post-match position just for an applicant?

This cycle, I interviewed at a decent number of spots, but ended up needing to post match. In the end, I recently accepted a GPR position in NYC. I am planning on re-applying to Peds next year.

I have a couple classmates and friends who also applied this year. They told me that one of their friends has a classmate who got “accepted” to a school program last minute. The interesting part, is that the school initially never had a post-match spot open, and just accepted an extra, for one of their students who didn’t get in on the day of match. During the interview cycle, the school program advertised the initial number of spots to be opened. If people knew of that school offering post-match, I know that many people would have applied, myself included.

Most students of that school seem to know of this case, and told my friend that it doesn’t seem fair for that program to suddenly accept another spot - maybe the student has connections? Or money? All assumptions, but still not fair, for those who matched or post-matched or was looking to match. Is it just me that knows of this case, and feels that it devalues the point of match and post-matching?
 
toothfairy18dentist said:
(I already posted about this on a different thread, but I wanted to ask the Pedo 2020 pool) :

Is it common for schools to add a post-match position just for an applicant?

This cycle, I interviewed at a decent number of spots, but ended up needing to post match. In the end, I recently accepted a GPR position in NYC. I am planning on re-applying to Peds next year.

I have a couple classmates and friends who also applied this year. They told me that one of their friends has a classmate who got “accepted” to a school program last minute. The interesting part, is that the school initially never had a post-match spot open, and just accepted an extra, for one of their students who didn’t get in on the day of match. During the interview cycle, the school program advertised the initial number of spots to be opened. If people knew of that school offering post-match, I know that many people would have applied, myself included.

Most students of that school seem to know of this case, and told my friend that it doesn’t seem fair for that program to suddenly accept another spot - maybe the student has connections? Or money? All assumptions, but still not fair, for those who matched or post-matched or was looking to match. Is it just me that knows of this case, and feels that it devalues the point of match and post-matching?
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I’m sorry that you had to go through all the post match. Kudos though for getting into a GPR and your willingness to apply to Pedo again. The situation does seem very unfair if that information you heard is correct. Unfortunately when it comes to applying, connections do make a small difference whether it’s a personal one via externships, interviews or based on who you know. Pedo is a smaller group compared to overall dentistry and a lot of program directors know each other very well through the years. I know a letter from my Pedo program director weighs a lot for certain Pedo programs because she’s friends with those directors. Not saying it’s a guaranteed spot, but it does give certain applicants a leg up because those directors trust her recommendations. Maybe try to get your name out there during your GPR, or start networking so you can make connections with people of the Pedo community and impress them with what you have to offer to the program. Best of luck in NYC!
 
Aqtie002 said:
I’m sorry that you had to go through all the post match. Kudos though for getting into a GPR and your willingness to apply to Pedo again. The situation does seem very unfair if that information you heard is correct. Unfortunately when it comes to applying, connections do make a small difference whether it’s a personal one via externships, interviews or based on who you know. Pedo is a smaller group compared to overall dentistry and a lot of program directors know each other very well through the years. I know a letter from my Pedo program director weighs a lot for certain Pedo programs because she’s friends with those directors. Not saying it’s a guaranteed spot, but it does give certain applicants a leg up because those directors trust her recommendations. Maybe try to get your name out there during your GPR, or start networking so you can make connections with people of the Pedo community and impress them with what you have to offer to the program. Best of luck in NYC!
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I almost didn't believe it too. According to my classmate's friend, it seems that that school in specific advertised to select 8 residents per year, but ended up accepting that one extra just a couple days ago. Only notified the future co-residents via email, that another will be joining suddenly. Not sure what'll happen to those residents' stipends either. The extra added person apparently went from having to post-match/GPR like the rest of us, to suddenly getting his/her top choice of rank. If that system exists why bother going through ranking and matching? Maybe it's out of pure jealousy that I am shocked.

Also, thank you for saying that. Will network more this year, which is fine. I'll have to try harder, like the rest of us who didn't match.
 
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My second question is,
The only NYU Langone hospitals who have an opening for post match are Maryland and Nashville?
 
Has anyone heard from MD/TN's NYU Langone programs?
Any idea why they have so many seats available this year for post-match? :thinking:
 
toothfairy18dentist said:
(I already posted about this on a different thread, but I wanted to ask the Pedo 2020 pool) :

Is it common for schools to add a post-match position just for an applicant?

This cycle, I interviewed at a decent number of spots, but ended up needing to post match. In the end, I recently accepted a GPR position in NYC. I am planning on re-applying to Peds next year.

I have a couple classmates and friends who also applied this year. They told me that one of their friends has a classmate who got “accepted” to a school program last minute. The interesting part, is that the school initially never had a post-match spot open, and just accepted an extra, for one of their students who didn’t get in on the day of match. During the interview cycle, the school program advertised the initial number of spots to be opened. If people knew of that school offering post-match, I know that many people would have applied, myself included.

Most students of that school seem to know of this case, and told my friend that it doesn’t seem fair for that program to suddenly accept another spot - maybe the student has connections? Or money? All assumptions, but still not fair, for those who matched or post-matched or was looking to match. Is it just me that knows of this case, and feels that it devalues the point of match and post-matching?
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I can kind of guess which school it is, seeing that it's a 8 person program. Why wouldn't the school offer the extra spot as a post match option? If this is the school I'm thinking of, in New York, it wasn't a part of the post match list. That's not fair to anyone who is looking for post-match programs...all these people are looking for options!
 
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