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[Animal Midwife]

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I mean I'm all for keeping my overall macro reads but like, my overall village macro read on cheezit is basically based on you and paws saying he was ok (I can't read the kid for ****), and my macro read of you was just "Feels villa" d1 and then "my god we need to stop voting together we're always wrong." Not exactly inspiring...I don't really have good reasons.

So my paranoia is like "Well maybe it was just a pocket the whole time"
and then the guy on my other shoulder is like "Calm down, you're being a little self obsessed, no way wolf AM care about your opinion enough to make sure you vote for the same person every day"
And then the paranoia claps back and it goes back and forth...

Yeah, see. When I'm a wolf, you can pinpoint why I'm a wolf. But that pause is something worth consider.

Yeah I've uh...heard that before

This is different.

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah, see. When I'm a wolf, you can pinpoint why I'm a wolf. But that pause is something worth consider.



This is different.

No I can't, look at Mattress Store, cray had literally been seered and I still thought you were less wolfy than she was 😛

 

[WildZoo]

I think I need you to spell out why you are so sure about sporty, when you weren't sure enough about her yesterday to push us to vote there instead of genny, and also like...I don't know, how this is different from the other times you were sure.

 

[Animal Midwife]

No I can't, look at Mattress Store, cray had literally been seered and I still thought you were less wolfy than she was 😛

This isn't Mattress though.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think I need you to spell out why you are so sure about sporty, when you weren't sure enough about her yesterday to push us to vote there instead of genny, and also like...I don't know, how this is different from the other times you were sure.

Can you just trust me on this one?

 

[WildZoo]

~Interlude~

D1 quotes and interactions (I didn't include mine, because that's extra work and not useful for me 😛 )

Spoiler: Cheezit and Sporty

This interaction is just....weird. Mild sketch points to both of you, shelter for the change in gameplay, Dubz for the shade throwing and then quick 180.

I would agree with this, but would KD allow both of them to be wolves two games in a row? Especially games she’s modded in?

I would tend to say no.

I’m annoyed she said it before me but I’m not inclined to sit here and ponder the actions of mods which could be ambiguous and fickle. I’d rather focus on something concrete like people’s gameplay

Also slightly annoyed at you because Kara used a similar reasoning (I am busy and asked the mods to mess with RNG and make me a villager blah blah) as a defense to being questioned. (And then flipped wolf).

Spoiler: Sporty & AM

Hmph. Even if we still have 6 hours to close, I'm not gonna let my vote sit on a joke vote if it's gonna be part of a tie.

unlynch mom
lynch dolph

So you're making a new tie?

Yes?

If it's gonna be a tie, I'm not gonna make it a tie with someone that hasn't felt wolfy yet?

Feeling alright with the other 1 vote candidates?

currently, yes.

Spoiler: Cheezit & AM

I'm okay with a shelter lynch

Lynch Shelter

Why?

So I can not spend the rest of the game tunneling her and WZ for the stuff I pointed out earlier

Would any flip clear the other one?

A village flip on shelter would make me less suspicious of WZ.


You know that I was exaggerating when I said the whole game, but I have tunneled over less
It reads like a w/w interaction, where one of you is trying to clear the other or at the very least throw us into a WIFOM situation about the other if one flips wolf.

Would it make anyone else more suspicious?

If village - Kata and Capri become more suspicious
If wolf - Kata and Capri cleared. WZ, Skimble, and Genny get sketch points.
ETA: Lawper gets sketch points if Shelter flips wolf too because I just saw his weak waffle.

Spoiler: Cray & Cheezit

I wouldn't know. It seems like most of me and Mel's on thread interactions when they occur, is to try to lynch each other as hard as possible.

These lyrics popped into my head as soon as I read this post:
"You and I go hard at each other like we're going to war
You and I go rough, we keep throwing things and slamming the door
You and I get so damn dysfunctional, we start keeping score"

 

[WildZoo]

This isn't Mattress though.

How do I know it's not?

Can you just trust me on this one?

...
You're pullin at my heartstrings here

 

[WildZoo]

See now I have to think about whether AM is an emotionally manipulative wolf. That's a whole other layer. If that line had come from someone like Pip, I'd be screaming wolf to the heavens. But this gives me pause.

 

[Animal Midwife]

How do I know it's not?

Because I'm village here.

 

[Crayola227]

Yeah, see. When I'm a wolf, you can pinpoint why I'm a wolf. But that pause is something worth consider.



This is different.

I'd love to hear why you're more sure this time.

 

[Crayola227]

I mean I'm all for keeping my overall macro reads but like, my overall village macro read on cheezit is basically based on you and paws saying he was ok (I can't read the kid for ****), and my macro read of you was just "Feels villa" d1 and then "my god we need to stop voting together we're always wrong." Not exactly inspiring...I don't really have good reasons.

So my paranoia is like "Well maybe it was just a pocket the whole time"
and then the guy on my other shoulder is like "Calm down, you're being a little self obsessed, no way wolf AM care about your opinion enough to make sure you vote for the same person every day"
And then the paranoia claps back and it goes back and forth...

but is she making you vote? it seemed to me that you were running the town

 

[Crayola227]

AM, you are more sure of Sporty being wolf than Mel?

 

[Crayola227]

Someone is going to have to change their vote.

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM, you are more sure of Sporty being wolf than Mel?

Yes.

 

[WildZoo]

but is she making you vote? it seemed to me that you were running the town

Me? I don't think I've really been running anything since the skimble debacle.

 

[WildZoo]

I didn't say she made me vote anywhere. And a couple of those lynches aligned with my feels initially, and then started to feel bad as the day went on.

But when I had doubts, she said she was sure, so I went with it. That's why I'm making sure my own doubts are resolved before I do the same thing today.

 

[Crayola227]

what's the tally?

did Mel drop his vote again?

 

[WildZoo]

Because I'm village here.

Well I thought you were village there too. And you convinced me of it pretty well.

 

[WildZoo]

what's the tally?

did Mel drop his vote again?

I think it's still the same

 

[WildZoo]

I'm just reading day 2 like "Wow this is not wolf AM"

So I am willing to concede that you are not an original @Animal Midwife 😛

 

[Crayola227]

AM, if I could see what you see about Sporty, then I would probably vote with you. The fact that you won't try to make a case, means this is all just some mind game in one way or another. I get that you might not trust that I'm village, but if I were, wouldn't you want my vote with you? Why not just make your case and see what that does?

I guess the mind game only works if you trust no one, don't clue them in to what you're thinking. Aren't there other ways of working with people at lylo than this ridiculous ethnic standoff?

 

[Crayola227]

Yeah, I highly suspect conversion now.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well I thought you were village there too. And you convinced me of it pretty well.

Well, I don't what to tell you because I actually am this time.

 

[WildZoo]

unlynch AM lynch sporty

I want to see how it feels

 

[Crayola227]

wtf

 

[Crayola227]

I want a tally on each page dammit

 

[Crayola227]

while doing nothing myself while acting entitled

 

[kaydubs]

D6! SHENANIGANS Lynch Tally:
Melby (2) - Sporty, Cray
Sporty (2) - AM, WZ
AM (1) - Melby

Tieeee
5/5

Lynch closes in ~2.25 hours

 

[Melchizedek]

 

[Crayola227]

This feels like a check move.

 

[Crayola227]

D6! SHENANIGANS Lynch Tally:
Melby (2) - Sporty, Cray
Sporty (2) - AM, WZ
AM (1) - Melby

Tieeee
5/5

Lynch closes in ~2.25 hours

 

[WildZoo]

~Day 2~

Spoiler: AM & Cheezit

Well I'm bored

@StayingPositive2017 @Animal Midwife How do you feel about cheezit?

He seems well-aged and of the highest quality. Very easy to trust.

[...]

Is someone frozen?

Paws beat me to it, but I’m personally waiting to hear from @capri1722, specifically why did she switch and break the tie to shelter yesterday (if I remember events correctly).

ETA: I thought I’d hit post on this 20 mins ago. I’m in rare form today.

Spoiler: AM & Sporty

*quoted one of my posts*

I don’t like this post. Not for content. Just for. Feels. It reads to me too much like some things I’ve seen her post as wolf.

I don’t care to explain my genny lynch too extensively right now, but part of it was desire to observe this jimble/AM/Dubz mess today from the outside. Dubz hasn’t been reading right to me since yesterday but I haven’t put my finger on it. AM seems more normal for right now. Jil hasn’t struck me as wolfy.

Mel is null, Capri I haven’t looked at too closely

So you don't want anyone to lynch genny?

I didn’t say that. Just haven’t been on my computer all day to more thoroughly look and decide if I want to switch today.

[...]

How about nah to these lynches?

Unclench genny
Lynch Dubz

Which ones? There's a lot of people on the board.

(sporty never answered this question)
[...]

Sporty and capri are peaking quite a bit in terms of wolfiness.

Bite me

Come closer and I will~

Spoiler: Am & Cray (this one has cray's first full reads list)

Is someone frozen?

what does this actually mean

Just no activity due to fearfulness from wolf/wolves.

[...]

If there's actually two packs in a 13 player game, I will sub out.

what if they're two lone wolves? lol

Seems rather unfortunate for the wolves then.

[...]

Also, Lawpy because his thoughts are not linear.

His thoughts are never linear.

Okay. What are your current reads on everyone?

My response to katashark earlier were the highlights. About to a do a box of reads to make sure I don't miss thinking about anyone.

I don't understand what all happened yesterday and today between various people. That's probably not how I process WW although it probably should be.

SP - I really, really, really, want the people voting here to explain more what they find wolfy. I don't have a great meta on village Sporty. If you are village and not wolf, and you are voting for Sporty, you should be more than willing to explain. Plus it makes me feel like "what am I missing here?" So explain yourselves. Otherwise, I can't see what's up with her, and I'm inclined to actually find everyone on her case for seemingly no reason, more suspicious themselves.

WZ - oddly aggressive. She was as a wolf in the last game too. Is it possible when she strikes me as really village, she is, and when she strikes me as wolfy, she is??? It's causing me physical pain trying to deduce if the interaction with Skimble was village on village violence or not.

genny - really wigging me out, because once upon a time I found that I could sometimes read her correctly, I think. She rang village to me last game, and this game feels sort of in the middle of what I think of as village vs wolfy genny meta. I have her as a null which concerns me. You can never tell what genny is unless you can tell she's village. That did make sense, I promise.

Paws - not as aggressive as her wolf games, so far so good, but I don't feel I have a good grasp of her as a player.

AM - I have faith that when she pulls an obviously wolfy move, I'll know it for sure, and by then she's either lynching me or I'm dead.

Dolph - I don't see the big deal with Dolph/Skim, which in turn means I don't really understand the WZ/Skim herfuffle over it, so I ultimately don't get what's wolfy about Dolphin, which then makes me more suspicious of anyone suspecting (him? her?)

Mel - said one thing I feel like is "adding shade" without being backed up by solid Mel logic, and this is typically how I have found wolfy Mel in the past. Inconsistency of logic is always a good wolf clue even excluding meta, so I stand by that. That said, he doesn't feel as evil so let's say he's on the wolfdar but I'm not ready to get my gun just yet.

katashark - my top wolf suspect. So much of it feels wolfy. I'd have to go back to be more specific, but yeah.

capri - When it came down to Skimble vs Capri, I had a much stronger villager feel for Skim. Now that Skim is out of the race, I am finding that some of my issue with Capri is not feeling like I have any strong feelings. That would seem unfair, however someone earlier (I think I quoted them, it might have been katashark) pointed out what about her play seems sketch. It's rough because those habits are wolfy, but they also may be standard Capri.

I think if I was following the player on player interactions more closely (as one should in WW), and less reliant on meta which I often misremember anyway, I'd have a better grasp on the players that are being active. The people I have less of a "grip" on, are therefore attracting more of my notice simply because I don't know what to make of them for the most part.

Spoiler: Cheezit & Cray

lol why do I feel like I'm missing part of the conversation on me? I was gonna ask Paws why she thought I was village, but then decided not to tempt fate with less than an hour to lynch close

lynch Katashark

several throw away posts strike me as wolfy

Honestly I'm starting to creep this way because I feel like she deflected my questions to buy time to manufacture reads, but I don't have anything more concrete than that.

Spoiler: Sporty & Cheezit

How about nah to these lynches?

Unclench genny
Lynch Dubz

Or I could go kata too.

talk to me about why not Capri and I'd seriously consider switching

Unfortunately I don’t have a great answer to that. She hasn’t set off my feels at all this game yet. On a quick iso, her train of thought makes sense to me so I’m fine with her staying alive right now

Also because this feels pocket-y and I don’t trust you after that one time

Please don't put total faith in me. It gets to me then I am more likely to screw up.

Lol I should have listened to you more 😛

 

[Crayola227]

To whatever wolfpack helped craft this lylo, bravo. I would not have thought a lylo with this bunch be good to wolf in. It's clearly excellent. Bold move your choice, but if you pull off this sweep, it will be impressive.

 

[WildZoo]

I...I think you should vote for sporty. Idk man. I'm still going through. But I'm feeling better about it the more I compile data.

 

[WildZoo]

@Animal Midwife
I'm excited by something I saw absolutely zero of on D1 or D2 (ok, technically there was a little bit of it during n2). Do you know what it is?

 

[WildZoo]

To whatever wolfpack helped craft this lylo, bravo. I would not have thought a lylo with this bunch be good to wolf in. It's clearly excellent. Bold move your choice, but if you pull off this sweep, it will be impressive.

This might be the best lylo I've ever been a part of, in terms of like...well-crafted to be really, really difficult to figure out, and with players who are gonna put in the time to try to do it anyway.

Like the fact that it is taking me this long to read through things, because the chattiest people are still alive lol

 

[Crayola227]

dear god can you guys just tell us and no more questions?

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife
I'm excited by something I saw absolutely zero of on D1 or D2 (ok, technically there was a little bit of it during n2). Do you know what it is?

What?

 

[WildZoo]

What?

Look. I want to see if you see what I'm seeing. Just look at my D1 and D2 interaction posts.

 

[Melchizedek]

Unlynch AM
Lynch Dubz

Self-prez and because (and I can't believe I'm saying this) Dubz is the only one I actually trust right now.

 

[WildZoo]

dear god can you guys just tell us and no more questions?

Where's the fun in that?

 

[Crayola227]

This might be the best lylo I've ever been a part of, in terms of like...well-crafted to be really, really difficult to figure out, and with players who are gonna put in the time to try to do it anyway.

Like the fact that it is taking me this long to read through things, because the chattiest people are still alive lol

mmmm hmmmm

for me it's the fact that every wolf pair you can try to create by just combining two players' names, is enough to make everyone else on the board go, "Oh, goooooooood nooooooo"

 

[WildZoo]

Unlynch AM
Lynch Dubz

Self-prez and because (and I can't believe I'm saying this) Dubz is the only one I actually trust right now.

Well you have a funny way of showing it! 🤣

 

[Melchizedek]

Unlynch AM
Lynch Dubz

Self-prez and because (and I can't believe I'm saying this) Dubz is the only one I actually trust right now.

Idk what I'm smoking. I meant

Unlynch Dubz
Lynch Sporty

 

[WildZoo]

mmmm hmmmm

for me it's the fact that every wolf pair you can try to create by just combining two players' names, is enough to make everyone else on the board go, "Oh, goooooooood nooooooo"

Oh I'm getting to that part soon. Haha. This really is the stuff of nightmares.

 

[WildZoo]

Hmmm. Wonder if paws' protection would have protected from conversion. I feel like no.

 

[Crayola227]

I thought I was kept as part of the gangster crowd of cool cats that are sketchy, devious, and play well

Then I realized how much when I wolf I like to leave at least one weak noob or village idiot for the end.... 🙁

 

[WildZoo]

I thought I was kept as part of the gangster crowd of cool cats that are sketchy, devious, and play well

Then I realized how much when I wolf I like to leave at least one weak noob or village idiot for the end.... 🙁

Aw it's ok cray. You're not a weak noob or a village idiot. You're the other wolf 😉

 

[Crayola227]

AM, it's creating a lot of distrust that you are not explaining what you are doing.

And every time I see WZ and Cheezit making the smoochy faces at each other I'm like

GRAB MY GUN IT MUST DIE

 

[Animal Midwife]

Look. I want to see if you see what I'm seeing. Just look at my D1 and D2 interaction posts.

There's no Cray/AM interaction on D1?