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Abney said:
And now I'm inclined to be suspicious of promo and nyanko. I'm the "convenient" target right now so lynching me the second I came on smells off to me
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Oh, please.

There was an effort to lynch guis yesterday. It was building again today. I posted above about how it was likely guis was going to be modkilled for inactivity, else I would have voted that way. Someone else said that a straight modkill would be unbalancing to the game if guis were anything but vanilla, which makes sense. You got subbed in. If you inherited the role, then you inherited the suspicion that was already being cast that way.

Like I said, if you can come up with a good alternative, I'm all ears. But there are solid reasons to pursue you. Trying to flip that back on me isn't going to help you much.
 
Promethean said:
Oh, please.

There was an effort to lynch guis yesterday. It was building again today. I posted above about how it was likely guis was going to be modkilled for inactivity, else I would have voted that way. Someone else said that a straight modkill would be unbalancing to the game if guis were anything but vanilla, which makes sense. You got subbed in. If you inherited the role, then you inherited the suspicion that was already being cast that way.

Like I said, if you can come up with a good alternative, I'm all ears. But there are solid reasons to pursue you. Trying to flip that back on me isn't going to help you much.
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Don't get your panties in a wad
 
I am legitimately catching up on days worth of posts and you expect me to jump out with who I'm suspicious of. I don't read that fast! That was just my immediate visceral reaction
 
Unlynch guis, lynch promo

I find more inconsistency with his not wanting to lynch guis because low posting then being just fine lynching abs right when she took over. If he had said his abs vote was more a joke because of last game, I'd probably not be suspicious but him claiming that he voted abs because of others being suspicious of guis when he had just stated that he would look elsewhere for the lynch, that's odd.
 
I will explain once more...

I would have voted guis, but figured that low posting (in a game where keeping up with that is a rule) would do it for me. Why lynch someone who is going to be removed anyway? I was working on figuring out who to go for instead.

If Abs inherited the role, then they also inherited the suspicion. What is different is that they are no longer going to be removed for not participating. So the reason not to vote for them is gone.

I'm not taking this stand at 830pm. There is ample time for a defense. Yeah, it was half joke, but it is also that Abney took over a role that I (and others) had feels for.

Also, I voted Genny yesterday (and declined to change that vote when Gen gave the ICU excuse.) I thought she was a wolf, I stuck to those guns, and so she was. Not wolfy behavior.
 
dyachei said:
the feels?

Do you guys think if i were a wolf I'd bring this much attention to myself by arguing with SOV? Especially after his "plan"
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Yeah actually, Unlynch Dy. Looking back at the convo with SOV, everything she brought up is something I agree with (re: WZ) and something that needed to be said.
 
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Lynch Finn, if I'm not missing something looking back, she didn't offer a compelling defense when she was up for lynch with Lotf, and hasn't been revisited since.
 
I know she can't be lynched today, I just want to get my suspicions about Crayola on the thread in case I get lynched today. She has almost literally said nothing but "oh this is fast paced, oh no I can't keep up, ooooooh the fun banter is fun". If you don't point fingers then fingers are less likely to get pointed at you. I dont trust her andthat would be my vote if she wasn't in the nether. However, she is and I will continue to analyze.
 
Day 4 Official Lynch Tally

PBC (2) - BBC, MQ
Abney (4) - Dy, Deva, Promo, Ny
Mq (1) - Kcough
Kcough ()
Dy (2) - Ally, STL
Hayley (1) - SOV
Promo (1) - DVMD
Finn (1) - Kam

12/18 Voting. 10pm EST Deadline
 
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I'm not feeling the Dy lynch. I felt she acted very villagey during the SOV argument.

Promo is giving me feels though, even though he voted for genny yesterday and that was far from a runaway lynch. I also think he would have drawn attention to himself if he switched to guis/abney, so that could play a part. I thought it was weird asking who was minecraft and who was dali. I wonder if he has a role that only works on one or the other. Something also makes me suspect he has something to do with placing people in the nether.

I could also go with the Finn lynch since that was my vote d1 & d2.
 
I think I'm going to

Lynch BBC

Maybe she is just a confused individual but her "I'm not important" and "oh noes I'm not sure what I am" (when google will readily tell you if your role is associated with minecraft or Dali, and how were you not researching your role from the get go if you didn't know) and the "I'm a pixelated something so I'm minecraft" are just making me squinty eyed. *I* am minecraft and it says nothing about pixelation. And while pixels do not a wolf make, her posts do not add up to me.
 
Jilary said:
I'm not feeling the Dy lynch. I felt she acted very villagey during the SOV argument.

Promo is giving me feels though, even though he voted for genny yesterday and that was far from a runaway lynch. I also think he would have drawn attention to himself if he switched to guis/abney, so that could play a part. I thought it was weird asking who was minecraft and who was dali. I wonder if he has a role that only works on one or the other. Something also makes me suspect he has something to do with placing people in the nether.

I could also go with the Finn lynch since that was my vote d1 & d2.
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Interesting
 
Abney said:
I think I'm going to

Lynch BBC

Maybe she is just a confused individual but her "I'm not important" and "oh noes I'm not sure what I am" (when google will readily tell you if your role is associated with minecraft or Dali, and how were you not researching your role from the get go if you didn't know) and the "I'm a pixelated something so I'm minecraft" are just making me squinty eyed. *I* am minecraft and it says nothing about pixelation. And while pixels do not a wolf make, her posts do not add up to me.
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And I am not feeling either of the runners up.
 
Promethean said:
I will explain once more...

I would have voted guis, but figured that low posting (in a game where keeping up with that is a rule) would do it for me. Why lynch someone who is going to be removed anyway? I was working on figuring out who to go for instead.

If Abs inherited the role, then they also inherited the suspicion. What is different is that they are no longer going to be removed for not participating. So the reason not to vote for them is gone.

I'm not taking this stand at 830pm. There is ample time for a defense. Yeah, it was half joke, but it is also that Abney took over a role that I (and others) had feels for.

Also, I voted Genny yesterday (and declined to change that vote when Gen gave the ICU excuse.) I thought she was a wolf, I stuck to those guns, and so she was. Not wolfy behavior.
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I have given every ounce of info I have.
 
I'm not feeling an Abney lynch at this point. Guis was so quiet that I couldn't really get a feel one way or the other.
I'm not really sure what the suspicion surrounding Guis was in the first place but maybe that's because I missed yesterday?

I could actually go for Lynch BBC though
Something just feels off with her.
 
finnickthedog said:
I'm not really sure what the suspicion surrounding Guis was in the first place but maybe that's because I missed yesterday?
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LIS was suspicious of her, he made a post about it yesterday. I don't want to let that fall by the wayside (maybe just leftover regrets from last game) but I'm not feeling it myself right now.
 
Day 4 Official Lynch Tally

PBC (2) - PBC (I know this isn't actually PBC's vote... who was this?), MQ
Abney (4) - Dy, Deva, Promo, Ny
Mq (1) - Kcough
Kcough ()
Dy (2) - Ally, STL
Hayley (1) - SOV
Promo (1) - DVMD
Finn (1) - Kam
BBC (3) - Abney, WZ, Finn

15/18 Voting. 10pm EST Deadline
 
Jilary said:
Promo is giving me feels though, even though he voted for genny yesterday and that was far from a runaway lynch. I also think he would have drawn attention to himself if he switched to guis/abney, so that could play a part. I thought it was weird asking who was minecraft and who was dali. I wonder if he has a role that only works on one or the other. Something also makes me suspect he has something to do with placing people in the nether.
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It was weird to ask who was Dali and who was Minecraft, wasn't it? Perhaps you've also noticed that I'm a big fan of coming up with bizarre theories? I'm less likely to voice them aloud, since doing so helped provide the wolves with cover for their lynch kills, yes? You and I both speculated on odd lynch mechanics which Genny seems to have subsequently used to help explain her night kills. So, I'm less interested in floating my wild speculations in the main thread, lest I provide any other opportunities of the sort.

Though, sticking with your speculation, if it was related to an ability, wouldn't that further suggest that I'm not a wolf, since we've seen both Minecraft and Dali people get wolf killed?

I definitely don't have anything to do with the nether. If PBC hadn't been in the nether, I'd have wanted to lynch her over Genny. I now think that would have been a mistake, so I'm glad she was unavailable yesterday. But no, if I could send folks to the nether, I wouldn't have picked the last two people to go there.
 
Abney said:
I have given every ounce of info I have.
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I see that. And we are cool. I just haven't figured out who I'm going to switch to. I dare not change my vote without good reasons, so I'm going to go back and do a little re-reading of my own.

The quote that you were answering was directed at DVMD who seemed to think that my vote for you was strange and a big change from my reluctance to vote for guis. I just wanted to clarify that there was a sound, strategic reason for that change of heart, that it wasn't a flip flop, but a logical reaction to a change in the equation.

I'm greedy. I want another wolf today. I don't want to make a mistake. And I have this whole gorgeous afternoon to devote myself to wolf hunting and watching netflix.
 
Promethean said:
It was weird to ask who was Dali and who was Minecraft, wasn't it? Perhaps you've also noticed that I'm a big fan of coming up with bizarre theories? I'm less likely to voice them aloud, since doing so helped provide the wolves with cover for their lynch kills, yes? You and I both speculated on odd lynch mechanics which Genny seems to have subsequently used to help explain her night kills. So, I'm less interested in floating my wild speculations in the main thread, lest I provide any other opportunities of the sort.

Though, sticking with your speculation, if it was related to an ability, wouldn't that further suggest that I'm not a wolf, since we've seen both Minecraft and Dali people get wolf killed?

I definitely don't have anything to do with the nether. If PBC hadn't been in the nether, I'd have wanted to lynch her over Genny. I now think that would have been a mistake, so I'm glad she was unavailable yesterday. But no, if I could send folks to the nether, I wouldn't have picked the last two people to go there.
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I'm actually starting to think you might be chaos. I don't think wolves can only kill minecraft/dali players, that wouldn't really work as a game mechanic. I could see a wolf or chaos having an ability that only worked on one or the other though.
 
Jilary said:
I'm actually starting to think you might be chaos. I don't think wolves can only kill minecraft/dali players, that wouldn't really work as a game mechanic. I could see a wolf or chaos having an ability that only worked on one or the other though.
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I could also buy there being two packs (or two lone wolves) with Minecraft wolf-wolves being able to kill only other Minecraft roles, and Dali roles able to kill Dali.
 
I'm going to need someone to tell me which part of my defense was not "compelling" enough for you.
I have explained my votes.
I've also given you every piece of information I have other than my role name. I do not have an active ability. I do not have any information.
So what else do you want from me? Or will you only be satisfied once you've wasted a lynch on me?


Furthermore, at this point I can now note that on the day I was close to being lynched LotF and I both had 3 votes and then genny came in and decided to go after me. Now, I understand that wolves vote for wolves but at that point in the game, if there were only 3 wolves, I feel like it would be a stupid move to actively try and get one of them lynched. Especially when the other player up for lynch was acting more suspicious on that particular day. Maybe that's just me.
 
Unlynch Abney

I'm not feeling BBC and I'm not interested in climbing on any bandwagons just for the heck of it, but I don't see any reason to keep Abs in the lead for now.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I could also buy there being two packs (or two lone wolves) with Minecraft wolf-wolves being able to kill only other Minecraft roles, and Dali roles able to kill Dali.
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Except that genny was Dali, and killed Minecraft x2. So they'd be killing their opposites.

Like Promo, I enjoy wild speculation. But if we can't distinguish between villager and wolf based on role or Minecraft / Dali affiliation, I'm not sure that it gets us closer to finding a wolf.
 
Back home, I remember why my spreadsheet notes from last night say I think dy is wolfy.

You might remember that when Zen died Night 1, I believed it was misadventure by mushroom soup. So I said on thread that I thought she didn't die by wolf, and that I could / would explain more. Then I had a moment of, "should I have kept my mouth shut," because while it's my understanding that getting more info out on the thread benefits villagers, saying things inartfully sometimes makes people think you look sketchy.

So I PM'd dy on the grounds that she's a more experienced player than I am, and asked if she thought I should explain further, and her response was to suggest I just let it be, specifically since people seemed in agreement that Zen's death wasn't wolfy.

That, in conjunction with her posting a couple times in apparent support of the Zen wasn't killed by a wolf theory, plus a comment that looked like a subtle push on WZ away from genny and towards guis, plus she was the vote that made genny/guis a tie, makes me suspicious of her.

I could see a "good wolf would never do those things" argument for all of those, but I think I'm going to drink my wine and take my chances, barring any compelling evidence for someone else.
 
for those reading that, my specific response was "I don't think it helps anything at this point. It seems fairly well accepted that she was not a wolf kill?" Especially since ally had already discussed it on thread.
 
Abney said:
I think I'm going to

Lynch BBC

Maybe she is just a confused individual but her "I'm not important" and "oh noes I'm not sure what I am" (when google will readily tell you if your role is associated with minecraft or Dali, and how were you not researching your role from the get go if you didn't know) and the "I'm a pixelated something so I'm minecraft" are just making me squinty eyed. *I* am minecraft and it says nothing about pixelation. And while pixels do not a wolf make, her posts do not add up to me.
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Well, since the votes are starting to go my way I'll explain myself a bit.

1. I'm a confused individual, I usually am. You probably noticed that I thought Minecraft was Minesweeper at the beginning of the game. I am very unfamiliar with the theme, and as I stated I thought Dali was another version of Minecraft. Since my research was on the Minecraft wiki, I didn't know how to tell which "version" my role was a part of. A Google search of "Dali [role name]" came up with jack all, so I was stuck. Once they explained he was an artist it made that clear. For my pixellated comment: the photo on wiki and my role PM was of a pixellated object. So pretty much my role in the game graphics.

2. I'm just trying to play a very straightforward game. If you would like my role I am happy to reveal.
 
Forgot to mention this yesterday, but something somewhat important going back to D2 lynch:

People figured that LoTF just didn't know her kill avoidance was not a lynch avoidance. I have reason to believe that was unlikely.

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Also unlynch PBC MQ's reasoning was far from satisfactory. However, it does make me want to give her the benefit of the doubt as well. If PBC was lynched and came back villager, we all would have jumped on MQ for her "fairly certain" reasoning. So unless she was trying to screw over another wolf, it doesn't make sense
 
Day 4 Official Lynch Tally

PBC (1) - MQ
Abney (3) - Dy, Deva, Ny
Mq (1) - Kcough
Kcough ()
Dy (2) - Ally, STL
Hayley (0) -
Promo (1) - DVMD
Finn (3) - Kam, Jilary, SOV
BBC (3) - Abney, WZ, Finn

14/18 Voting. 10pm EST Deadline
 
lynch BBC

breaking the 3 way tie, and just from feels/I believe the other two's defenses more, I'm inclined to vote this way
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
Oh also forgot: a few people have commented on the odd choice of night kills. Could it suggest a noob wolf pack? Genny would fit that


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My theory is that they saw the lynch confusion and attempted to capitalize on it Night 1. Then they were rewarded with Night 1 confusion and decided to capitalize on it for Night 2.
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
Well, since the votes are starting to go my way I'll explain myself a bit.

1. I'm a confused individual, I usually am. You probably noticed that I thought Minecraft was Minesweeper at the beginning of the game. I am very unfamiliar with the theme, and as I stated I thought Dali was another version of Minecraft. Since my research was on the Minecraft wiki, I didn't know how to tell which "version" my role was a part of. A Google search of "Dali [role name]" came up with jack all, so I was stuck. Once they explained he was an artist it made that clear. For my pixellated comment: the photo on wiki and my role PM was of a pixellated object. So pretty much my role in the game graphics.

2. I'm just trying to play a very straightforward game. If you would like my role I am happy to reveal.
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I'm sorry but you donot seem like an unintelligent individual. The very first thing that came up when I googled Dali was Salvador Dali. Who is pretty famous... I went to a pretty ****ty public hs and I know who he is. And I KNOW someone mentioned persistence of memory as one of his paintings.

Sorry Charlie. I'm not buying what you're peddling.
 
Abney said:
I'm sorry but you donot seem like an unintelligent individual. The very first thing that came up when I googled Dali was Salvador Dali. Who is pretty famous... I went to a pretty ****ty public hs and I know who he is. And I KNOW someone mentioned persistence of memory as one of his paintings.

Sorry Charlie. I'm not buying what you're peddling.
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Unintelligent no. Absentminded yes. Feel free to read threads from past games where I have been suggested for lynch because people think I've purposely sounded like an idiot to gain credibility. I typed in Dali then my role, which I am sure got different hits than just Dali. And I was looking for something directly related to Minecraft. I've honestly never heard of him before, maybe he got mentioned in middle school? That was long enough ago that I couldn't be bothered to remember. High school for me involved no art education.

Anyway, I have been consistent throughout the thread. I have said nothing to my PM partners that I have not said on the thread. My ability is not investigative, so my only intel is from the thread and what others tell me.

In terms of seeing in the thread stuff get mentioned: I've been skimming the past few days. I missed the entire day Friday, and only got about 30 minutes of uninterrupted WW time Saturday. I saw Dali get mentioned, and figured it was Minecraft related by the context. I missed the mention of the painting.


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Oh, btw, I just had time to watch a video that I received with my last night's results.

It seems to be a video of a cockatoo and a blonde ( i think) woman in a cadillac saying "peekaboo" back and forth to each other for over a minute.

I am completely perplexed. If there was supposed to be some meaning behind that it escapes me.
 
I really don't feel the BBC lynch just on the basis of not knowing about Dali and/or Minecraft.

Being deliberately obtuse about the setting seems like terrible play for a wolf. That would be some crazy like a fox kinda maneuvering, and I just don't buy it.

I've spent the day reviewing each person's conversations, and I haven't made a decision about who to lynch.
 
Promethean said:
I really don't feel the BBC lynch just on the basis of not knowing about Dali and/or Minecraft.

Being deliberately obtuse about the setting seems like terrible play for a wolf. That would be some crazy like a fox kinda maneuvering, and I just don't buy it.

I've spent the day reviewing each person's conversations, and I haven't made a decision about who to lynch.
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It's not so much the not knowing the theme it's the overly innocent tone I'm getting. I've used it so maybe it's setting off alarms for me but it's not that hard to figure out. And now the fact that she hasn't read the thread and missed a full day? Just rubs me wrong

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