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I feel like Dubz should be picking more fights.
Why Dina and cray?
I keep reading the urge to placate Midwife as wolfy. I mean, villagers want to impress people with their villagery-ness as much as the next wolf, I guess, but don't you also just want to like, help village with your reads?
I disagree noob wolves love the buddy system
Jeez, started at 10:45 pm and finished at 2 am. I can't keep this up.
Cray was mostly tone for D1
I agree, I don't think kras would have made this shot (if only for the sake of not having WORSE arguments in future games). this moves kras slightly less wolfy for me, but not cleared of wolfishness - the shot could have been taken by another wolf banking on the fact that the context would help clear kras.Mayo and I are IRL friends. It's NAI, just like AM and genny liking each other's posts
And it would be super dumb!wolf to shoot AM in the middle of arguing with her. What an excellent way to draw attention to myself 🙄
or it could have been smart, since when she flips village it gives you some protectionYeah and it would've been dumb for me to shoot AM since she was village reading me, but I thought we were just calling each other out for posting around the time it happened
agree. Even when I was chaotically killing people as Darkwing Duck, I had a much bigger village cushion for some of my more misguided* shots (with the exception of the final yolo). I don't think even I would have taken this shot as a villager, we're down too many and AM was neutral-to-village on most people's reads.I don't see any villager in their right mind shooting AM in this game state, cray
again, agree that its probs a wolf/3P shot (or an even more chaotic village vig than I was, but I'd be surprised to have more of those since we already had 2)I agree.
I think the wolves probably have an extra shot, maybe to balance out all of the village/3P firepower. Maybe 3P.
Why is the lainey part in here? I follow all the other scenarios but that one, I haven't seen anyone express that suspicion before at all (including you, unless I missed it). I could see it being the case now that she's flipped vig, but we didn't know that before. I'm sad about lainey's early death too, but I feel like you've really been playing that up. I want to believe you're really just that nice, but it's feeling wolfyAs mentioned, it could be someone who was tired of hearing the AM/Kras fight. Or it could be out of spite. Or it could be because they genuinely suspected her as wolf. Or if they, like me, thought maybe she was responsible for Lainey's death and for whatever reason didn't like that move. That last one is kind of going out on a limb though because there would have to be a number of assumptions made to get that shot right
I wonder if the game would be as easy as some sort of mass claim thing, where all us villagers send an emoji and then the next day everyone claims, and the wolves if they didn't have the ability to do so, would be hosed. I would like to think the game would be protected from that and the wolves can moji too.
Hey listen, villagers yeeting villagers is a 2 way street. I genuinely though shorty was being suspicious. I had other suspicions (which I shared) but they weren't in the running and I didn't feel any stronger about one vs another. Also, upon checking my spreadsheet, I see that you also suspected Shorty and voted for her! so are you suspicious too?!
Who should I be fighting with?I feel like Dubz should be picking more fights.
Her placement is a relative one. I don't have a lot of wolfy points for her per se, other than the weird April soft clear, but I don't have any village points for her. The people lower than her on the list have earned village points for one reason or another.Trying to understand why you have alley so high. I'd like to think after wolfing with her last game that I might better detect any lycanthropy of hers this game, but I might not.
Why is the lainey part in here? I follow all the other scenarios but that one, I haven't seen anyone express that suspicion before at all (including you, unless I missed it). I could see it being the case now that she's flipped vig, but we didn't know that before. I'm sad about lainey's early death too, but I feel like you've really been playing that up. I want to believe you're really just that nice, but it's feeling wolfy
AM - Tone sounds village. I think might be involved in the Lainey death because she was the only one really pressuring her and I think Lainey pressed a few of her buttons. Not wolfy, not sure what 3p AM sounds like??
Barks - explained earlier about what crossed me as odd yesterday, slight wolf lean
So you did mention it, but it still feels like it could be wolfy to me. A wolf would've known the lainey kill was vig/3P, allowing you to play up the integrity angle.OH SHOOT I WAS RIGHT
AM was a vig!
I think I might be overestimating the integrity of wolves but I also don't see why a wolf would want her dead. Then again I've never wolfed so maybe there's a reason I can't understand yet. I'm just getting the vibe that there's a vig somewhere out there especially given FOUR kills in one night and I want to look back to see who might have been sus of Lainey
Hmm, ok. I did get that nodding along feeling, or at least I could follow her thought processes. I also think AM is usually able to read her well so that moved her a bit down my list too. The comments she made about reading AM and cray vs reading me and genny felt genuine to me.Some early posts from Dina pinged me as trying to look like she was contributing without saying much when you read them back - I normally feel like when she's village I'm nodding along to her points and logic and I haven't had that feel. Cray was mostly tone for D1, however I can see in the past page of me scrolling that I will probably re-evaluate that lean as I continue on my catch up.
And for this I remember that back and forth with sunny, and dina did end up being wrong, but her comment was about the timing of sunny's vote, not the fact that she was voting for shorty.I really like this post because it kind of sums up the type of posts Dina is making that that pinged me. Seems like a lot of trying to manufacture shade, then got caught out by her own actions being similar
Wait, I just realized @Animal Midwife was milk, that's hilariousDead is @Animal Midwife who was 🥛, a Village Vigilante who may kill one player each night.
Not speaking for WZ, just making a note that Alley has been incredibly quiet this game and when I went searching for her posts last night, found very very few content posts and I think only one reads post, and that was her soft clear of me. I'm not saying this to her defense - the opposite, rather, because she could be wolfing very quietly and that's why you haven't picked up on it.Trying to understand why you have alley so high. I'd like to think after wolfing with her last game that I might better detect any lycanthropy of hers this game, but I might not.
Last game, Alley almost dragged me down with her when she was wolf and I was village. I don't see why her soft clear of me should also give me wolfy points, I wasn't involved in that interactionThe soft clear you're dishing out here makes zero real sense. This gives you and April a couple sketch points.
WZ was pushing me for reads and I only had the time to do a few off the top of my head, so figured if she wanted to hear about anyone in particular, she should let me know before my fingers became icicles.This post replying to WZ, the last sentence triggers wolfy feels.
I know that feeling as wolf "What do these villagers want to hear to read me village? PLEASSEE tell meeeeeee!!!" That's maybe what this reads as.
Seriously?
You're not this naive. Reeks of lie, white knighting or packmate support.
All right, gonna
### vote April ###
You've crossed that line where I don't seriously believe you actually believe what you're saying. And only wolves say things they themselves don't believe.
April, if you're not a wolf, you seriously need to get a little bit pickier on what makes you assign village points, but so far there's twice you went beyond the bounds of belief/reasonable to "soft clear" or give village points. Too chummy.
I haven't soft cleared anyone. What do you classify as a soft clear? Regardless, it looks like you realized that in the post below. As for Z, I was in the process of trying to resolve my neutrals and Z was in that pile, so moved him to very slight village lean (definitely not a clear of any kind). Nothing he's said has tingled me wolfy, just nooby posts, and what he's been saying (including that one post I referenced) let me move him out of my neutrals for the time being. Bad wording on my behalf for saying "this" post, it was more the last bit that I needed to finally move him to slight village, not that I'm reading him entirely off of that one post.For me it isn't April's niceness per se, but the fact that she's exhibiting an almost reckless abandon in her "clearing" of players that doesn't ring right for someone in the uninformed majority.
Shyte, it was alley with the soft clear for April, not April passing out a soft clear.
Still sus of April though.
But now I'm considering coming off that vote.
I feel like Dubz has been pushing people but no one's taken the bait. But maybe I'm biased because of her pushing me for reads multiple times yesterdayI feel like Dubz should be picking more fights.
Okay, to be fair it’s my first game and I had to look up what PR hunting even was. I see now how that could look sus though.Asking me about my role.
Looks like you found my posts from earlier so that answers half your question. Putting the pieces together with Lainey and AM wasn't hard - I initially said I was going to think about who might have killed Lainey and I didn't think it was a wolfy move for reasons explained before. It just took me a brief skimming to remember that AM was pushing her and Lainey was equally pushing AM's buttons (probably not intentionally) and AM of all people would be the one to take that personally, or maybe she genuinely thought Lainey was being coached. Everyone else was village reading Lainey. That, coupled with me and many others feeling AM was definitely showing her village meta, brought me to think maybe AM has a kill capability but isn't wolfy.Why is the lainey part in here? I follow all the other scenarios but that one, I haven't seen anyone express that suspicion before at all (including you, unless I missed it). I could see it being the case now that she's flipped vig, but we didn't know that before. I'm sad about lainey's early death too, but I feel like you've really been playing that up. I want to believe you're really just that nice, but it's feeling wolfy
Sorry guys its been a super busy day! I read through everything and feel as if AM is trying quite hard to sound villager and that seems sketchy.
Yeet AM
Can you elaborate on what you mean by what you mean by "trying to sound villager"?
A few times I just feel like they are trying too hard to find out who seems wolf like which would make me think they are trying to over compensate but idk im new haha.
@LaineyLou can I have an answer to the question I asked you?
I want to know what realistic wolfhunting looks like to you.
I guess im not sure, im new to the game. No need to get so defensive about everything.
I'm curious since you said I appeared to be faking it. I'd like to hear what traits a villager, in your mind, would have for you to have perceived me as fake to begin with. There must be a baseline.
I guess I just felt you were startng things off strong and I hadnt seen such strong questioning yet, Nothing personal. Im still getting to know the game and how people act and react.
AM: seems to be trying hard to village, mayo says usually she's often feuding people but why, seemed defensive toward mayo, asking if people have reads right off the bat could be a cover
And then AM stopped arguing abruptly, which is very unlike her and probably because she decided on killing her at that pointI dont get AMs hostility toward you
I'm just curious, where did you learn this from? This is game #4 for me and I've barely even heard of lie detectorsMy thought process in asking was that if someone had a lie detector, getting you to say it definitively would give them an opening to either verify or disprove that.
Last night I tried to send Genny the poke in the eye emoji, to be funny, and my night result was that the message didn't get to her. Maybe that doesn't make sense with my theory here. I don't know, I hate when I go to use an ability and the recipient ends up dead I always wonder if the ability backfired somehow.
It was a thing in the Saturday Morning cartoons game.I'm just curious, where did you learn this from? This is game #4 for me and I've barely even heard of lie detectors
Oh, you reviewed that game? Kudos to you, I'd never have the patience to read a game I'm not playing in lolIt was a thing in the Saturday Morning cartoons game.
I figured he probably heard about it from shortyOh, you reviewed that game? Kudos to you, I'd never have the patience to read a game I'm not playing in lol
If he did, still kudos to him, I don't think my boyfriend would have taken note of such a thing and implemented it in his gameplayI figured he probably heard about it from shorty
I’m sus of Mayo, starting to become one of my stronger wolf reads.@Zenge142 how are you feeling about mayo currently?
okay this is old and of uncertain importance but i just connected some previously missed dots so i wanted to circle back to this
I also sent an emoji to one of the deceased on night 1 -to lainey, for solidarity from recent/kind of still noob to current noob - and was told that I was able to send the emoji to her. No message about it not getting through to her. I haven't modded, but my understanding from looking at spreadsheets after noob game is that types of actions are typically grouped together in priority order (so like, kills first then emojis, or vice versa, though i know there's more complexity). Why would some emojis be successfully sent but not others?
Yeah, she talked about the game a lot when she was playing it, and I remembered the mechanics.I figured he probably heard about it from shorty
*************I figured he probably heard about it from shorty
Who would each of their partners be then?I’m sus of Mayo, starting to become one of my stronger wolf reads.
I don’t like their analysis of my D1 vote. I wasn’t just hopping on, I stand by the reasoning behind that vote, and was very upfront about it being a flimsy reason, but not feeling like there were better options. It was also strategic to try and get the majority not be on shorty who I had a strong village read on.
That being said, I was sus of Dina and still am, so seeing Mayo’s list push hard for Dina to be a wolf gives me pause.
For me, either Dina is in a pack, or Mayo is. Just not in together.
All my emoji got was a laugh react by a mod.i missed this too. My 😲 made it through to sunshineFL.
It might be that wolf kills vs vig kills are different order of operations.
Interesting though.
Okay, I’ve been sitting on this wondering what to do with this information but since people’s sending/receiving of emojis is coming out, it seems like as good a time as any to say that as a village emoji giver, I too sent an emoji to Genny last night, and mine DID go through/was received.Last night I tried to send Genny the poke in the eye emoji, to be funny, and my night result was that the message didn't get to her. Maybe that doesn't make sense with my theory here. I don't know, I hate when I go to use an ability and the recipient ends up dead I always wonder if the ability backfired somehow.
That's what a PGO is (paranoid gun owner) and I had mentioned it offhand as a possibility at one point but I'm not sure if that's what's going on hereI could see a situation where someone has a “protection” where anyone who takes an action on them is killed, or something? So people who unwittingly sent emojis to the wrong person got killed? I’m just kind of spitballing. Who knows, maybe the emojis do actually do something.
My emoji went through to April, and she's still alive. I asked mods what would happen if I sent a "good" emoji vs a "bad" emoji, and they said nothing would happen and the emoji I sent would not make a difference. So I don't think the emojis kill people. This gives village points to Zenge though, since he seems genuine with this post and his uncertainty of the game mechanics. I think a wolf would ask wolf chat this or not bring it up on thread. Personally, I think sending an emoji is this game's version of "vanilla" villager, since so far we haven't had ANYONE who has a vanilla villager role revealed when they died.Okay, I’ve been sitting on this wondering what to do with this information but since people’s sending/receiving of emojis is coming out, it seems like as good a time as any to say that as a village emoji giver, I too sent an emoji to Genny last night, and mine DID go through/was received.
Timing might have been a factor? I sent it pretty much immediately when night cycle opened.
So one of two things happened I’m guessing. Either I sent the emoji, someone else killed her, and then cray sent an emoji which was undelivered. OR I unwittingly killed her by sending an emoji, and then Cray sent an emoji which again went undelivered.
If it’s the latter, super sorry Genny. I don’t think it is though, I think the emojis are just a distraction and they don’t actually do anything.
I could see a situation where someone has a “protection” where anyone who takes an action on them is killed, or something? So people who unwittingly sent emojis to the wrong person got killed? I’m just kind of spitballing. Who knows, maybe the emojis do actually do something.
What emoji did you send and who did you send it to?All my emoji got was a laugh react by a mod.
I think we all forgot that we are allowed to ask the mods questions like this lolI asked mods what would happen if I sent a "good" emoji vs a "bad" emoji, and they said nothing would happen and the emoji I sent would not make a difference.
Still working on getting my reads list, as I am still getting caught up. You can track where I'm at in my catch-up from my reacts. I know this is very inconvenient, but I am trying to stay up to date with the game. Doing online schoolwork without a laptop is very difficult, and I do not recommend it. The Canvas app isn't awful, but it is really hard to watch lectures and take notes using a phone, so WW has kind of fallen to the wayside this weekend. The spreadsheet went kerplut when my laptop hardrive died on Friday. Currently using my boyfriend's laptop, and I told him I was using it to check Canvas and my email real fast. I am going to the campus library when it opens at 2pm, and I am hoping I can check out a laptop from the IT desk there. I couldn't figure out how to do my anatomy quizzes on my phone, so hopefully I can get a laptop there for my schoolwork and also use it to check the thread.@alleycat03 you mentioned early on you'd be using a spreadsheet this game. I don't see results from that effort though - reads please?
I sent AM 🍞 because she was my strongest village lead. Then I figured that I would try and keep looking sketchy why trying to slowly and quietly clear my name but all the while having the wolves be none the wiserWhat emoji did you send and who did you send it to?
That's harder. There's a few names I could plug in and out for both but not for any good reasons. I'm also pretty open to neither being a wolf. If SAR is a wolf, I would doubt Mayo is a wolf, and to a slightly lesser extent, doubt Dina is a wolf.Who would each of their partners be then?
Some early posts from Dina pinged me as trying to look like she was contributing without saying much when you read them back - I normally feel like when she's village I'm nodding along to her points and logic and I haven't had that feel.
I really like this post because it kind of sums up the type of posts Dina is making that that pinged me. Seems like a lot of trying to manufacture shade, then got caught out by her own actions being similar
Looks like you found my posts from earlier so that answers half your question. Putting the pieces together with Lainey and AM wasn't hard - I initially said I was going to think about who might have killed Lainey and I didn't think it was a wolfy move for reasons explained before. It just took me a brief skimming to remember that AM was pushing her and Lainey was equally pushing AM's buttons (probably not intentionally) and AM of all people would be the one to take that personally, or maybe she genuinely thought Lainey was being coached. Everyone else was village reading Lainey. That, coupled with me and many others feeling AM was definitely showing her village meta, brought me to think maybe AM has a kill capability but isn't wolfy.
I wouldn't say I was really playing that up - I think I mentioned it after the Lainey flip and then mentioned it again under AM's notes in my reads. I did kind of play it up after AM died because I'm usually dead wrong and I was pretty excited about getting that guess right. After that, I only mentioned it as a possible reason for someone to kill AM, but I said it wouldn't be my choice of reasons because it's quite a limb to go out on. Was just thinking out loud.
If you're interested, these are the posts that helped me piece that together:
And then AM stopped arguing abruptly, which is very unlike her and probably because she decided on killing her at that point
Some random thoughts to throw out there.
Wolf leans:
Dina - Need to do an iso, but I had a note of him wolfy yesterday before the vote. The shorty vote didn't help. I don't think he killed AM fwiw.
I can't know for sure if AM actually killed Lainey or why, but my guess is that she did, and the reason is probably a little more complex than that. I think AM might have thought Lainey was being anti-village for trying to yeet someone who everyone thought was strong village, or she might have thought Lainey sounded coached, and there's probably a little bit of spite in there too for Lainey calling her defensive and argumentativeIf I'm following this correctly are you saying that AM killed Lainey because Lainey voted for her?
I seriously kind of doubt that. I mean, maybe who knows, but I'm still thinking whoever killed Lainey did so to try and cast suspicion on to either AM or Sunshine.If I'm following this correctly are you saying that AM killed Lainey because Lainey voted for her?
Crays analysis last night has me moving her to village lean. Seems genuine and wolf hunting
So since they've posted now do you have any thoughts on them?
Any follow up to this? How did the reread go?From catching up and thinking about what happened yesterday kras and April have caught my attention. I need to reread and look a little closer at April.
How was your isoAlso need to do an iso of please.
Any updated thoughts on mayo, bread, or zenge?Mayo, bread, and zenge I also son know either, was going to look at them on my reread that I haven't done quite yet
Just to clarify I was the wolf purposely asking how many wolves there were. I was trying to pass it off as me being a villager, but it did not work. I didn't reply to myself and artificially lower the number of wolves. AM replied to me and was correct about there being 3 wolves.###yeet shorty###
for now since last game a wolf tried suggesting a lower number. still have to reread some stuff. Just stuck at work rerunning samples since I switched standard solutions.
+ village point to Kras because she was actually wanting to avoid voting on the two wagons that ended up being villagers. However, she ended up voting for AM as a "salt" vote, kind of wasted her vote there.I also do not understand these wagons. Which makes them smell wolfy.
While I firmly stand by D1 reads being mostly nonsense, I'm not getting wolf vibes from either shorty or prints, so by extension, the folks voting that way are more sus to me
HA I think Genny was hinting about being a vig again??what if they're both wolves? 🤔
But really, AM sounds village to me. Who knows about kras because she wants to be unreadable. Or maybe she's hoping to get shot again!![]()
I think I follow this logic, except we did not know why pawprints was MIA, and she very well could have returned the next day and posted more after a warning. I think voting for a wolf suspect would have been the better option.At first I agreed with this line of thinking but another way to look at it is that if someone’s gonna get modkilled, and we aren’t otherwise confident that we’re gonna get a wolf, better to yeet an inactive player pre-mod kill than to yeet another, active villager and then lose an extra villager by mod kill
That said, I don’t get wolf vibes from paw prints really, and I think there’s a chance we could maybe get a wolf
I agree with this. Anna has a good point here. I don't think vetsplz and TME would be in a pack together.I dont really like this post
I feel like enigma is leaning too much into not having played with most everyone as a guise for not wolfhunting
as opposed to this was true for a bunch of us in the apoc. game, but we didn't really lean into it that much (from what I remember)
so i feel like its kinda similar to shorty's I'm a noob silly me strategy of wolfing in the noob game
YES EXACTLY! You all talking about your fascinating days definitely remind me why I want to become a vet so badly.*****
just reading the little mentions from the vet(erinarian)s about their daily practices is so cool to me. seriously, you guys make me very excited to be a vet. I'm getting all mushy but I feel like you are all really cool, and getting to interact with you in these capacities makes me sure that I've like found my people and even more sure of my career path, and then these little stories are just beyond cool and make me EEEEEE ! !
ok excited anna rambling done. sorry I got mushy.******
Not sure why I quoted this^ keeping it because Genny flipped village which I think throws some shade onto TME.In an odd way, this moves your read slightly more villager for me? Even though you’re talking about yeeting me. I had been getting wolf vibes from you, but a wolf would know I won’t flip wolf, so this would be end up helping shorty in the end
I agree with Genny. I want Kras to be more pro-village, and I really did not like the fighting happening b/w Kras/Mayo and AM. However, I have a hard time distinguishing general salt at a player vs actually fighting b/w a possible wolf and a confirmed (RIP AM) villager.I think it's a little more nuanced than that. AM reads her play as anti-village, which I happen to agree with. For AM, that means kras has to get thrown in the eel pool. Kras could pretty easily climb out of that eel pool if she'd adopt a slightly more pro-village play style, like she did last game where she actually discussed reads. I was super impressed with the change, and I was hoping it would stick. But alas, we're back to butting heads again. There's room for jokey behavior in WW, but it helps the village team as a whole if there's also some serious waving of the village flag now and then.
I explained Friday night why I was absent at yeet, but honestly I probably would have voted for TME or Kras if I had been around at 9pm on Friday. A lot of your early posts pinged my wolf radar, but right now you seem to be a villager. I also don't get why bread voted for himself.@alleycat03 why still on me, still salt or is it something more
@TelemarketingEnigma why doggo? I'm not seeing it, but don't really have a read on them
@Barkley13 - Same question, I'm not seeing enough to go off of for the please vote. What have I missed?
@The_Breadmann - Did you vote for yourself again or is that wrong? That is super sus
What is the nostalgia with Cray and ties? Did something happen with her and ties in a game a long time ago?Oh man this is giving me such nostalgia
I agree with this. + village points to MayoSame initial takeaway. There seemed to be an effort to protect TE
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The prints vote was never well supported to begin with. Good places to start tomorrow.
I was going to send you an emoji that night, but instead sent one to April hoping it would signal I could trust her. Sorry you died before I could send you an emojiI feel a little like its valentines day at school. I hope I get a nice emoji tonight.
I agree with this. + village points to Mayo1. No good reason to yeet her. Why waste a village kill on someone the mods are going to kill? That's wolfy.
2. The shorty vote made sense to me. There may be a wolf on that vote, but I think it was village driven.
I agree with this. + village points to MayoIt was asked several times today, what was wolfy about her. No one could give a good answer. Wasted vote. Easy wagon. Super sus.
Do you want reads or don't you? There's not winning with you.
I agree with this. + village points to MayoOr safely hidden elsewhere.
I agree with this. + village points to MayoIt was a bad vote and called out multiple times. Sorry your tunnel didn't strike gold.
What part of "there may be a wolf in there" clears the whole wagon. It doesn't make sense for the wolves to make an unnecessary counter wagon when prints is the easy vote. Doesn't mean one of them didn't slip in there.
I'm sure one of them is on neither wagon too. They'd be dumb if they're all on the same vote.
I'm inclined to think the AM kill was not village because I don't think there are many here at all who had AM as sus, and thus quite unlikely it was a villager thinking they were aiming for a wolf. Especially with how much AM contributes to the thread and wolf hunting. Possibly wolfy, and maybe because AM was getting dangerously close to the truth with the wolves... she didn't really have an updated organized reads list but I know she was most sus of SAR so I think that might be an interesting place to start
Yeet SAR
With the understanding that things can change between now and tomorrow's yeet close
I think this is an interesting point and i just wanted to save it for laterI can get behind this logic. It’s a place to start at least.
YEET SAR
I don't mind the fake conflict, I love soapy shows that are over the top dramatic. But I can't do real conflict and it started getting too personal ):You picked a helluva game to play in your spare time.
Just tabbing this bc I've had this little tinfoil inkling in the back of my mind for a day or so now,I'm just curious, where did you learn this from? This is game #4 for me and I've barely even heard of lie detectors