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If snowy was a wolf, she would've let me die. She didn't have to keep me. She could've said she had to choose one of us or we both die. I don't think snowys a wolf.

If you were chosen to die, that would've looked really bad on Snowy. Something still doesn't feel right to me.
 
If you were chosen to die, that would've looked really bad on Snowy. Something still doesn't feel right to me.
The way I see it, Snowy had a few choices:

1. Choose Coopah to die: if Coop is village, Snowy would be suspected by some because she saved herself, yet if she is village, she would at least KNOW she saved one villager and could not be as sure of Coop. If Coop is a wolf, Snowy is praised.

2. Choose Snowy: Snow would have to be village and assume Coop REALLY was village as well.

3. Choose both: why?

4. Save both: If Snow is a wolf, this would buy some credit with some players and hence more time. If Coop is a wolf, well, that sucks for Snowy. If both are village, then this saved both village lives.

Option 4 is probably smartest for a wolf and debatably so for a villager if allowed.
 
Why would have that looked bad on me? Lots of people thought Coop was sketch. Why would me choosing to kill her be good/bad?
 
Okay so what happened: a person I am pretty sure is village (AM) tells me she is sure another player is village (coop). If we are down to end game, we want to keep as many villagers alive as possible so we have to work together. I know I'm village so I didn't want to kill either of us.

If AM is a wolf, I'm sorry - but good job because no one is suspicious of you. If people dont trust AMs vouch for her and still think coop is wolf then lynch her tomorrow..
 
What doesn't feel right to you AM? you are tunneling me now and we need you to help us get a wolf. Is there anything that would maybe convince you I am village?
 
So AM is fine with trh, and me as well. We don't know about snowy. I don't think anyone knows anything about fireman at all. Kam was seered as neutral. Does anyone know anything about Jilary? She's still top of sketch list. LoTF is unknown as well.
 
So AM is fine with trh, and me as well. We don't know about snowy. I don't think anyone knows anything about fireman at all. Kam was seered as neutral. Does anyone know anything about Jilary? She's still top of sketch list. LoTF is unknown as well.
I think my play points me pretty darn village. I think my conversations via PM have all shown that too. But I see my viewpoint really well and yours not so much.

I am pretty sure I hinted or flat out told all of you who I am so you can compare if you want.

If I live through the night, I'll just say it, so if the wolf has any questions as to who has what abilities, I don't help tonight.
 
I think my play points me pretty darn village. I think my conversations via PM have all shown that too. But I see my viewpoint really well and yours not so much.

I am pretty sure I hinted or flat out told all of you who I am so you can compare if you want.

If I live through the night, I'll just say it, so if the wolf has any questions as to who has what abilities, I don't help tonight.

I was talking regarding a certain mechanic, I have you as leaning heavily village. Snowy leaning village too but that's just me. My next canidates are fireman and Jilary.
 
N13 -

Ladies and gentlemen, we turn our attention now to the sky. Some of you may recall seeing a dragon fly across the moon on previous nights. Once again, it arched gracefully through the clouds, its rider barely visible as a tiny speck on its back. Said rider clung to its spines, but she was not careful enough. No, not nearly careful enough. As she felt one of the spines stab through her chest, and as she made the long descent back to the earth, where she knew her body would be obliterated upon impact, she had time to think. To wonder. Who had sent this dragon to her? Why had she chosen to ride it? And just before she hit the ground, she wondered about the nature of her death. Was it chance? Fate? Or design? We may never know. She certainly never will.

Dead is @Coopah, who was Filly Bay, a villager who could silence one person every night but had to do so on even nights.

With her death, the great dragon was finally free and flew away from this dark place to find a new home.

It is now Day 14. Lynch deadline is 10pm EDT.

8 players remain. Please note group movement.
Roster:
hSDN: “Hi all, I am in 9th grade, and am worried that my B+ in English is going to hold me back, and I only have 300 hours of shadowing. Should I give up at this point?”
4. @Jilary
15. @SnowshoeDog143
28. @that redhead

Pre-Vet: “Secretly a subforum of Mafia Universe”
[CLOSED DUE TO DISCOVERY THAT THE WATERING HOLE WAS FILLED WITH PURE VODKA AND NOT WATER]

Pre-Allo: “The place where you go if you want to experience the inner circle of….”
[CLOSED FOR REALIZATION THAT IT IS ACTUALLY THE INNER CIRCLE OF HELL]

Veterinary: “The place where vets ignore in favor of posting in pre-vet.”
16. @LadyOtheFarm

Spouses and Partners: “A place for those that have to put up with the likes of us”
18. @Fireman
19. @nohika
22. @Animal Midwife
8. @Kam325

Sociopolitical issues: “Because SDN didn’t have enough drama already.”
[CLOSED TO LIMIT THE DRAMA]

The Lounge: “A place designed for all forms of debauchery, since professional students need an outlet.”
[CLOSED FOR UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES]

IRC Chat: “Whatever you do, don’t click on that picture DocE just sent…”
[CLOSED DUE TO SUBMISSION OF ILLICIT PICS]

NPC: @Bottle of Bear

SDN Chat: "Does anyone even use this feature?" (Aka land of the dead)
10. @PippyPony - MAD JACK
24. @Teepster87 - TRILT
2. @PrincessButterCup - NY ANKO
27. @Ceke2002 - PRINCESSBUTTERCUP
5. @nyanko - KAYDUBS
7. @Filly Bay - CDOCONN
26. @DocEspana - WILDZOO
29. @Therapist4Chnge - DPMD
6. @Trilt - DVMD
17. @genny - WTF

12. @StartingoverVet - CYNDIA
9. @kcoughli - Mrs. SoV
21. @cdoconn - AM
11. @Mad Jack - Kcoughli Converted to LIS
30. @LetItSnow - CAIA
1. Lucifern - KAM
25. @dpmd - BI
23. @ddstothecor - DOCESPANA
3. @DVMDream - LUPIN21
20. @Haxx - ABNEY
14. @SARdoghandler - NUTMEG
13. @Coopah - FILLY BAY
 
Why would have that looked bad on me? Lots of people thought Coop was sketch. Why would me choosing to kill her be good/bad?

Basically what LOTF said.

What doesn't feel right to you AM? you are tunneling me now and we need you to help us get a wolf. Is there anything that would maybe convince you I am village?

The whole situation with Coop just seems off and cleverly planned. Just keep actively wolf hunting and maybe I'll come around.
 
Um, so apparently I was also attacked last night. (Someone approached with ill intent. ..) But I had a defense item.
 
What was asked yesterday?

Current List of Questions:

How many wolves are in the game? (5)
How many possible conversions? (1)
How many factions? (3)
How many players that are neither village nor wolf remain? (1)
How many people currently can avoid a lynch? (2)

This last question was asked on Saturday. I not sure who had the caaaarrrrr in between then.
 
So two nights ago I was able to take someone's night ability via the "Library Card" which let me "check out" someone's power. I chose nohika's redirection power. I tried to use it last night and redirect coopah's night action, but was blocked, and she ended up dead.

So I was blocked and obviously couldn't have killed coopah. And nobody was redirected last night.
 
Current List of Questions:

How many wolves are in the game? (5)
How many possible conversions? (1)
How many factions? (3)
How many players that are neither village nor wolf remain? (1)
How many people currently can avoid a lynch? (2)

This last question was asked on Saturday. I not sure who had the caaaarrrrr in between then.
I had the car during the day a few days ago (I'll check when I'm off my phone) and asked if we had any seers left and the answer was yes.

That's why I think we have a wolf seer left.
 
AM - did coop tell you anything about the dragon?
I could talk to Coop yesterday and all she said was that she had gotten the dragon and asked if I knew what it did.

I told her that the only thing I knew was that there was a dragon in the morning write up, but it was the first I had heard of it.
 
Who had sent this dragon to her? Why had she chosen to ride it? And just before she hit the ground, she wondered about the nature of her death. Was it chance? Fate? Or design? We may never know. She certainly never will.
This has me wondering. This and the dildo killing DVMD. Who among us would have the ability to change items into traps? Or is there an item out there that does this? Does somebody inherit twisted abilities from the dead? (By design) And just for the sake of argument, could each of the items have a deadline and instead of disappearing peacefully, the items become booby trapped? (By fate)
 
This has me wondering. This and the dildo killing DVMD. Who among us would have the ability to change items into traps? Or is there an item out there that does this? Does somebody inherit twisted abilities from the dead? (By design) And just for the sake of argument, could each of the items have a deadline and instead of disappearing peacefully, the items become booby trapped? (By fate)
I was also wondering about a wolf tinkerer.
 
I rode the dragon the night before last without issue. It moved me to a new PM group. So that was either before any tampering happened, or I was immune to ill effects.

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Election Tally
Kam (7)
- Kam, cdo, filly, kco, sar, trilt, PBC
Genny
(4) - genny, pippy, vanilla, DocE
DocE
(3) - DoubleDs, nya, dpmd
Bear (1) - Haxx
Lotf (7) - lotf, jil, snow, AM, nohi, teep, coop
ceke2002 (1) - firebird
DVMD (3) - DVMD, T4C, ferny
T4C
(1) - ceke

27/30 votes

Day 2 Lynch Tally
snowy (1) - SOV
AM (1) - Kam
Kam (8) - ny, coop, Ferny, SAR, T4C, Filly, Trilt, PBC
MJ
(2) - kcough, dds
dpmd (1) - Haxx
vanilla
(3) - trh, cdo, Jilary
Haxx (1) - AM
kcough (1) - DocE
trh (1) - teep
ceke
(6) - pipperoni, snowy, genny, MJ, vanilla, dpmd
nyan (1) - Fireman
pipperoni (1) - lotf
PBC (1) - ceke

28/29 votes

Day 3 Lynch Tally
Kam (15)
- DocE, Fern, SAR, genny, nyanko, coop, Ceke, dds, MJ, nohika, cdo, AM, Haxx, vanilla, TRH
Ceke (1) - Fireman
genny (1) - Kam
fern (4) - teep, Trilt, PBC, sobsob
sobsob
(1) - kcough, snowy
Coopah (1) - LoTF
trilt (1) - Jil
AM (1) - filly

26/29 votes

Day 4 Lynch Tally
MJ (9)
- Trilt, FB, AM, cdo, ny, DocE, trh, Kam, SAR
T4C (1) - Coop
AM () -
DocE (3) - DVMD, SOV, MJ
Trilt
(3) - Jil, dpmd, Haxx
trh (1) - genny
nohika () -
Coop (2) - dds, LOTF
genny (2) - kc, Snowy
Kam (1) - Ceke

22/28 votes

Day 5 Lynch Tally
DocE (2) - DVMD, Ceke
Fireman (1) - kc
T4C (5) - SOV, Fern, SAR, AM, Fireman
Ceke (13) - DocE, trh, Jilary, nohika, cdoc, dpmd, Haxx, T4C, nyanko, genny, Coopah, Snowy, LoTF
AM (1) - Kam

22/26 votes

Day 6 Lynch Tally (pre-assassination)

DocE (4) - Haxx, Jil, genny, SAR
T4C (8) - AM, Coop, Fern, dds, kc, cdo, trh, fireman
DVMD () -
dds (1) - DocE
vanilla
(1) - SOV
Jil (1) - DVMD

15/23 votes

Day 6 Lynch Tally (post-assassination)
T4C (7)
- AM, Coop, Fern, dds, kc, trh, fireman
DVMD () -
dds (3) - dpmd, Snowy, nohika
vanilla (5) - SOV, Jil, DVMD, SAR, CDO
Jil () -
Trilt (1) - Haxx
Haxx (1) - Trilt
trh (1) - genny

18/22 votes

Day 7 Lynch Tally
SOV (15)
- dds, LIS, DVMD, AM, SAR, kcough, genny, cdoc, MJ, Jilary, Lufer, TRH, Snowy, Haxx, LoTF
dds (4) - kam, dpmd, Coopah, SOV

19/21 votes

Day 8 Lynch Tally
SOV (10)
- Kam, mj, thr, DDS, am, lis, nokia, haxx, Lucifern, fireman
Fireman (8) - SARDines, cdo, snowy, kc, dpmd, coop, lotf, SOV
dpmd
(1) - dvmd
snowy () -

Day 9 Lynch Tally
Haxx (2) - SAR, cdoc
dpmd (2) - Coopah, Jilary
cdoc (12) - dds, haxx, LIS, LoTF, TRH, Kam, kcough, AM, MJ, dpmd, nohika, fireman
kcough (3) - Lupes, Snowy, DVMD

19/19 votes

Day 10 Lynch Tally
dpmd (7) -
DVMD, Coopah, dds, AM, TRH, LoTF, kam
Coopah (4) - Fireman, nohika, dpmd, SAR
LoTF () -
SAR (1) - Haxx
TRH (1) - Snowy

13/14 votes

Day 11 Lynch Tally
SAR (8)
- DVMD, AM, Coopah, Haxx, Kam, TRH, nohika, lotf
Coopah (3) - SAR, Jilary, fireman
TRH (1) - Snowy

12/12 votes

Day 12 Lynch Tally
SAR (8) -
Snowy, AM, Haxx, Fireman, Coopah, TRH, Kam, Nohika, LOTF
TRH (1) - Jilary
Fireman (1) - SAR

11/11 votes

Day 13 Lynch Tally
Snowy (3) - AM, LOTF, Jilary
Jilary (1) - Coopah
Coopah (3) - Fireman, TRH, Kam
Kam (1) - Snowy

8/9 votes
 
Oh, haha, so was it you or kam that sent me the silly message yesterday morning?
I haven't sent anything to the living since I killed LIS (MJ). A few of you got my personal ad earlier in the game.
 
I haven't sent anything to the living since I killed LIS (MJ). A few of you got my personal ad earlier in the game.
I did get one of those earlier in the game. I was sad at the time that I couldn't respond favorably, but I guess it was good that I couldn't!
 
Thoughts:

At this point, of the remaining people left, I think jil is my strongest villager read although I think the whole question of lynch avoidance is peculiar. AM seems certain of particular people - coop and myself primarily, and with coop showing villager at the end and knowing I'm a villager, I'm inclined to trust her too. Fireman and LotF are unknowns to me. I assume kam is chaos/"neutral", leaving snowy or nohika as the last possible wolf in my mind.

Nohika didn't vote last night and allowed the tie to happen, knowing another player (snowy) would make the final decision.

Strangely, snowy didn't change her vote from Kam to coop to spare the tie and let coop die. Meaning she wanted the tie to happen, knowing she would be responsible with the final decision. She spares coop, a very possible wolf ploy to gain villager cred at the end of the game where few have spoken on her behalf.

Nohika claims she's stolen kam's night ability, which is simply sending an anonymous message to someone. I call bull on that one - Kam has been throwing up "can't touch this" vibes ALL game and insinuated that she cannot be killed at night by wolves during the coop blocked/no death night/kam claiming attacked. So forgive me for pointing out that's shady as hell.
There was only one conversion in the game - MJ - but my question is if nohika being rezzed as a wolf would count as a "conversion" if it was a game/character mechanic instead of a wolf using a conversion ability. Might be a nifty little loophole to hide behind.
 
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