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Melchizedek said:
Also there was another kill attempt last night (and yes I double and triple checked this one before I ran my mouth off this time) which means that we're either looking for an original wolf or there's a Vig out there with village intentions.
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Either you're a wolf or chaos. No other explanation for you to know how many kill attempts happened on each night.

Still sticking with you're just BSing.

I don't buy you as village at all.
 
PippyPony said:
It wasn't that -- you might not recall but I had actually moved you village based on that. It was the timing of when she was doing it, and the fact that it seemed to be in a way to throw suspicion but not really go hard for either one of us.
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But then that makes her an original and not a convert. And you want her to be both...lol. Sorry, just had to. 🙂
 
Mayor Day Tally:
LIS (3) - LIS, DVMD, VMH
WZ (2) - WZ, britzen
Pippy (1) - Pippy
Sporty (5) - Jilary, Sporty, allieh, Snowy, FS
Mel (4) - Mel, Teeps, Cyndia, AM
genny (1) - genny
16/18

Missing: MJ, Crayola

Day 2 Lynch Tally:
DVMD ()
Cyndia (1) - WZ
WZ (1) - pippy
Teep (1) - Mel
britzen (12) - genny, AM, Teeps, Jilary, vmh, DVMD, allieh, LIS, Snowy, Cyndia, FS, Sporty
15/17

Missing: britzen, MJ

Day 3 Lynch Tally (pre extension)
Pippy (1) - Sporty
Jil ()
FS (1) - LIS
Teeps (4) - Pippy, Mel, Snowy, AM
VMH ()
Mel (1) - Jilary
allie () -
snowy (3) - allie, WZ, Teeps
Sporty (2) - genny, FS

12/15
Missing: Cyndia, vmh, MJ

Day 3 Lynch Tally (post time extension)
Pippy ()
Jil ()
FS (1) - LIS
Teeps (5) - Pippy, Mel, Snowy, Cyndia, WZ
VMH ()
Mel (1) - Jilary
allie ()
snowy (5) - allie, AM, Sporty, VMH, Teeps
Sporty (2) - genny, FS
AM ()

14/15

Missing: MJ

Day 4 Lynch Tally
Snowy (6) - FS, Sporty, allieh, mj, VMH, jil
WZ (2) - LIS, snowy
Mel () -
jil (6) - am, pippy, WZ, mel, genny, cyndia
mj () -

14/14

Day 5 Lynch Tally (pre genny dropping info)
Jil (6) - mel, am, dubz, genny, vmh, MJ
AM (2) - teep, jil
FS (2) - pippy, LIS

10/14

Missing: allieh, DVMD, Sporty, FS

D5 Lynch Tally (post genny dropping info)
Jil (12) - mel, am, dubz, genny, vmh, MJ, DVMD, sporty, LIS, pippy, allieh, teep
AM (1) - jil
FS () -

13/14

Missing: FS
 
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Why does no one talk about the mayor tally? It was very useful in snagging a wolf.
 
SportPonies said:
@vetmedhead, can you confirm the bolded? Mel and I shared brief theories during the first PMing day, but I was not part of a conversation concerning any of the above during yesterday's PMing. We know genny's village now, but I still feel like it's worth fact-checking.
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Mel and I did not talk about those specific theories in our PM yesterday. However, I think the PMing he had with other player(s) yesterday was probably related to other game mechanisms and not necessarily wolfy in nature, if that makes sense. @Melchizedek
 
I don't like the look of the votes from Sporty and Dubz.
Edit to add: and Froyo.

I can go into why if people are interested, but I am not sure they are.

I know that genny had some seering capabilities; she looked into me. She said she hoped someone other than her would look into @SportPonies, but didn't know if anyone had done it. I'm not sure anyone has.
 
And to follow up on my own statement...

If Jil put Sporty Spice on the board for mayor, then Sporty is likely village or unseerable in terms of affiliation. Same goes for Dubz voting for herself and Britzen voting for Dubz. If there is someone who can look into affiliation, I don't think they would be great seering targets because of that.

Probably better just to lynch them. I'd recommend starting with Sporty Spice; will probably move my vote there shortly.
 
PippyPony said:
I don't like the look of the votes from Sporty and Dubz.
Edit to add: and Froyo.

I can go into why if people are interested, but I am not sure they are.

I know that genny had some seering capabilities; she looked into me. She said she hoped someone other than her would look into @SportPonies, but didn't know if anyone had done it. I'm not sure anyone has.
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Why wouldn't people be interested?
 
PippyPony said:
I think this is likely.
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So if you think he is non-village, regardless of wolf or chaos, why would you continue to allow him to live? I guess I need an explanation as to why you would want a non-village player still alive.

Especially if you think he is chaos because many times they have very specific lynch requirements.
 
DVMDream said:
So if you think he is non-village, regardless of wolf or chaos, why would you continue to allow him to live? I guess I need an explanation as to why you would want a non-village player still alive.

Especially if you think he is chaos because many times they have very specific lynch requirements.
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Eh I don't mind playing nice with chaos.

He has been lynching wolves (for the most part) so I am assuming that his win condition is somewhat village aligned.

I'd rather get the wolves first and then deal with any chaosy nonsense we have floating around out there. There's a little bit more reasoning I have behind why I would prefer that order, but suffice to say he is not my top priority.
 
DVMDream said:
So if you think he is non-village, regardless of wolf or chaos, why would you continue to allow him to live? I guess I need an explanation as to why you would want a non-village player still alive.

Especially if you think he is chaos because many times they have very specific lynch requirements.
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And especially since we don't know what is win condition may look like if he is chaos. Which can, arguably, make him an even bigger threat than the remaining wolf(ves).

***Again, this is all based on you thinking it is more likely he is chaos, not saying he can't be a wolf***
 
PippyPony said:
I'd rather get the wolves first and then deal with any chaosy nonsense we have floating around out there. There's a little bit more reasoning I have behind why I would prefer that order, but suffice to say he is not my top priority.
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That right there is dangerous thinking. His win condition could be to rid the game of the wolves, in which case, you are losing the game by just ignoring him. Or his win condition could be to get rid of z number of villagers. Or get the game tied up with villagers and wolves. Or to lead a lynch on x type of player, y number of times.
 
PippyPony said:
It's odd for me to flirt?

Come on, I think you know I like a little danger in my life 😉

:flame:
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It is odd for you to ignore a villager threat. I just can't understand how you can go "yeah, I think he isn't village and is chaos, but it is fine, no worries, nope I don't know his win condition, but we'll deal with that after he has won."

Might as well just throw in the towel now. Why even bother?
 
DVMDream said:
That right there is dangerous thinking. His win condition could be to rid the game of the wolves, in which case, you are losing the game by just ignoring him. Or his win condition could be to get rid of z number of villagers. Or get the game tied up with villagers and wolves. Or to lead a lynch on x type of player, y number of times.
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Yeah, these are all good points. As I said before though, I'm not sure it's worth the time suck it might end up being.

You do you, though
 
WildZoo said:
So why does that make you think we are looking for an original (if it's not a village vig)?
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Because if the failed kill attempt on N2 and last nights failed kill attempt are linked then that means one of the original wolves who has extra kills up their sleeves is still alive (or potentially the whole pack has a set of extra kills they can try to dole out). This would make more sense if last night was an even number night, which is why I'm considering the possibility of last night's extra kill attempt as a village vig kill.
 
vetmedhead said:
Hey @Melchizedek, was the thing we were talking about looking into yesterday two words long?
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Lol I was just trying to figure out how to bring this up with PM's closed. Yep, it was! And now I'm more comfortable with my opinion on that.
 
PippyPony said:
And to follow up on my own statement...

If Jil put Sporty Spice on the board for mayor, then Sporty is likely village or unseerable in terms of affiliation. Same goes for Dubz voting for herself and Britzen voting for Dubz. If there is someone who can look into affiliation, I don't think they would be great seering targets because of that.

Probably better just to lynch them. I'd recommend starting with Sporty Spice; will probably move my vote there shortly.
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PippyPony said:
Oh why not

Unlynch zombie DVMD
Lynch Sporty Spice
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Unless they are an incredibly recent convert I do not think sporty is the droid you're looking for
 
PippyPony said:
Why are you so concerned with chaos hunting all of a sudden?
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YOU think he is chaos. I am pointing out that it is odd for ANYONE to not lynch someone that they think is non-village.

Personally, I am not convinced on the chaos part, I still think he might be wolf, but could make argument for chaos.

I am simply pointing out that YOU think he is chaos and how bizarre it is to NOT lynch someone that you deep down feel is non-village. Get it?
 
D2

Sporty contingency votes DVMD (1)
Dubz votes Cyndia (1)
Pippy votes dubz (1)
Cyndia votes teep (1)
genny votes the ritz (1) - references "strong feels"
AM votes the ritz (2)
Teep votes the ritz (3)
Jil votes the ritz (4)
meats votes the ritz (5)
DVMD votes the ritz (6)
allie votes the ritz (7)
sporty unlynches DVMD (0)
CheezyD votes teep (2)
LIS votes the ritz (8)
Snowy votes the ritz (9)
Cyndia unvotes teep (1) votes the ritz (10)
Froyo votes the ritz (11)
Sporty votes the ritz (12)

D3
Sporty contingency lynches Pip (1)
Pip contingency lynches Jil (1)
LIS lynches Froyo (1)
Pip unlynches Jil (0), lynches teep (1)
Cheez lynches meats (1)
Jil lynches cheez (1)
AM lynches allie (1)
allie lynches snowy (1)
snowy lynches allie (2)
dubz lynches snowy (2)
cheez unlynches meats (0) lynches teep (2)
genny lynches sporty (1)
snowy unlynches allie (1) lynches teep (3)
teep lynches allie (2)
froyo lynches sporty (2)
teep unlynches allie (1) lynches snowy (3)
AM unlynches allie (0), lynches teep (4) - original lynch deadline
***** hits the ****ing fan*
AM unlynches teep (3), lynches allie (1)
Teep unlynches snowy (2), lynches AM (1)
meats lynches teep (4)
AM unlynches allie (1), lynches snowy (3)
Sporty unlynches pippy (0), lynches snowy (4)
Cyndia lynches teep (5)
meats unlynches teep (4), lynches snowy (5)
dubz unlynches snowy (4)

-----technically lynch end, remaining votes archived for posterity----
teep unlynches AM lynches snowy
dubz lynches teep


D4

Dubz lynches snowy (1)
Cheez lynches snowy (2)
Froyo lynches snowy (3)
LIS lynches dubz (1)
Sporty lynches snowy (4)
genny lynches cheez (1)
snowy lynches dubz (2)
allie lynches snowy (5)
pippy lynches dubz (3)
mel unlynches snowy (4)
pip unlynches dubz (2), lynches cheez (2)
meats lynches dubz (3)
AM lynches jil (1)
genny unlynched cheez (1) lynched MJ (1)
MJ lynches snowy (5)
cheez lynches dubz (4)
Jil lynches cheez (2)
dubz unlynches snowy (4), lynches jil (2)
pip unlynches cheez (1) lynches jil (3)
meats unlynches dubz (3), lynches snowy (5)
cyndia lynches snowy (6)
cheez unlynches dubz (3) lynches jil (4)
genny unlynches mj (0) lynches jil (5)
jil unlynches mel (0) lynches snowy (7)
cyndia unlynches snowy (6), lynches jil (6)
I mentioned yesterday that if Jil flipped wolf, it would make me less inclined to think the people pushing her lynch at the end of the day were wolves. However, her being an alpha complicates this. If the vote swings her way and she survives the lynch, she's likely to draw all the attention off of snowy. Since I believe there's only one wolf left (5 in a game this size...even with the rezzes I don't think it makes sense, especially with an alpha in play), I think there's a fair chance they hopped over on the jil lynch to buy an extra day or two.

I'm going to go back to read that sequence of events more closely.

D5

Mel and AM contingency lynch Jil (2)
Teep lynches AM (1)
WZ lynches jil (3)
genny lynches Jil (4)
Jil lynches AM (2)
----genny drops info that Jil interacted with Mel----
meats lynches jil (5)
pip lynches froyo (1)
MJ lynches jil (6)
LIS lynches FS (2)
-----genny gets more specific: Jil bopped Mel on the head----
DVMD lynches Jil (7)
sporty lynches Jil (8)
LIS unlynches FS (1), lynches Jil (9)
---Mel has a stroke----
Pip unlynches FS (0), lynches Jil (10)
Allie lynches jil (11)
Teep unlynches AM (1), lynches jil (12)

What with everyone but Jil being on the Jil lynch, not too much to go with here. I think we likely only have one wolf left, and as far as their positioning on this lynch goes I see two options.
1) They knew Jil was going to survive the lynch. Since she was already under so much suspicion, might as well push her and shut down the discussion on anyone else for the day. Get on her vote early - and what could be earlier than a contingency vote? Will be looking at Mel and AM some more today.
2) I think this is less likely, but a wolf giving it an extra level of thought may have stayed off her vote initially, make it look like they were unsure, until genny dropped her info...specifically because people would likely be looking at the early voters. This would only apply to teep, pip, or LIS. Teep or pip could be converts, LIS I think is an unlikely convert but possible original (though I have to go back and look for the post DVMD mentioned to see if that changes things for me). Either way I still think this scenario is unlikely, so I'm looking more at the first group.
 
WildZoo said:
I mentioned yesterday that if Jil flipped wolf, it would make me less inclined to think the people pushing her lynch at the end of the day were wolves. However, her being an alpha complicates this. If the vote swings her way and she survives the lynch, she's likely to draw all the attention off of snowy. Since I believe there's only one wolf left (5 in a game this size...even with the rezzes I don't think it makes sense, especially with an alpha in play), I think there's a fair chance they hopped over on the jil lynch to buy an extra day or two.

What with everyone but Jil being on the Jil lynch, not too much to go with here. I think we likely only have one wolf left, and as far as their positioning on this lynch goes I see two options.
1) They knew Jil was going to survive the lynch. Since she was already under so much suspicion, might as well push her and shut down the discussion on anyone else for the day. Get on her vote early - and what could be earlier than a contingency vote? Will be looking at Mel and AM some more today.
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You realize that both of these bolded statements look you look real sketch right now, right?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Why does no one talk about the mayor tally? It was very useful in snagging a wolf.
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It was?

Animal Midwife said:
I mean voting context. That's my pride, joy, and greatest asset in these games.
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That's great and all but I'm pretty sure britz ended up changing her vote to Mel so you might want to fix your tally.
Also I'd like to see your actual analysis of those tallies...because just posting it is kinda useless.

PippyPony said:
I don't like the look of the votes from Sporty and Dubz.
Edit to add: and Froyo.

I can go into why if people are interested, but I am not sure they are.

I know that genny had some seering capabilities; she looked into me. She said she hoped someone other than her would look into @SportPonies, but didn't know if anyone had done it. I'm not sure anyone has.
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I'm always interested

PippyPony said:
Eh I don't mind playing nice with chaos.

He has been lynching wolves (for the most part) so I am assuming that his win condition is somewhat village aligned.

I'd rather get the wolves first and then deal with any chaosy nonsense we have floating around out there. There's a little bit more reasoning I have behind why I would prefer that order, but suffice to say he is not my top priority.
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I wouldn't assume that. Even chaos with non-village aligned win conditions will play along with village to keep themselves from getting lynched, as long as it doesn't screw up their win condition.

Melchizedek said:
Because if the failed kill attempt on N2 and last nights failed kill attempt are linked then that means one of the original wolves who has extra kills up their sleeves is still alive (or potentially the whole pack has a set of extra kills they can try to dole out). This would make more sense if last night was an even number night, which is why I'm considering the possibility of last night's extra kill attempt as a village vig kill.
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Hmm. That would require an inherent extra kill in the pack in addition to the possibility of britzen acquiring an extra kill ability. I think that's unlikely, so I'd lean towards the vig option (or, perhaps a lone wolf if we're very unlucky).
 
WildZoo said:
Hmm. That would require an inherent extra kill in the pack in addition to the possibility of britzen acquiring an extra kill ability. I think that's unlikely, so I'd lean towards the vig option (or, perhaps a lone wolf if we're very unlucky).
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Or a chaos with a kill ability. That is, if you believe Mel in that there was a second kill attempt last night.
 
WildZoo said:
That's great and all but I'm pretty sure britz ended up changing her vote to Mel so you might want to fix your tally.
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Checked back, she posted that switch right as the vote closed. Still think if you're going to analyze the mayor vote you should include that data point, since it was closed 7 minutes early.
 
WildZoo said:
Hmm. That would require an inherent extra kill in the pack in addition to the possibility of britzen acquiring an extra kill ability. I think that's unlikely, so I'd lean towards the vig option (or, perhaps a lone wolf if we're very unlucky).
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I'm intrigued by the vigilante option as well. I have some reason to believe that role exists in this game but no way of knowing whether it was used or not with the exception of someone dying in the write up. Not sure about all of the other ostensible kill attempts though
 
PippyPony said:
Does anyone have an accurate record of when the extra kill attempts allegedly took place?
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Mel is claiming Night 2 and last night. But is claiming Night 2 was most definitely not genny.

I do think there was an attempt on genny Night 2, but have stated that is open to interpretation. I still interpret what the mods sent me as I protected her from harm, but very well could be wrong. If I am wrong, it still doesn't change my mind that I think something is not right with Mel.
 
WildZoo said:
It was?
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Heck yeah.

WildZoo said:
That's great and all but I'm pretty sure britz ended up changing her vote to Mel so you might want to fix your tally.
Also I'd like to see your actual analysis of those tallies...because just posting it is kinda useless.
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Note when she voted for you. Then note when she switched to Mel. I'm only counting pre-closed as official. My voting pattern is my analysis.
 
vetmedhead said:
Hey @SportPonies did you ever play any of the games in the Phantasy Star series?
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Didn't play, but I'm mildly familiar with the GC version.

(Edit: I take it I should be looking back at some things in regards to this)

RE the LIS post that DVMD is referring to, I also pushed LIS to village on my list after reading that post. It seems like a stretch to make something like that up.

I am not completely on board with a Mel lynch today, mostly because he truly seemed so village in our PMs, but I'm not about to deny that his recent posts have seemed unusual.
 
Jilary said:
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By the way, I meant to post this earlier but forgot to:

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