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I didn't even get to the end of the first page before I decided the OP is a *****. Honestly after everyone basically answering the question that HE came here to ask, and he's still doubting and ask more irrelevant questions, I say let him fend for himself.
 
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I didn't even get to the end of the first page before I decided the OP is a *****. Honestly after everyone basically answering the question that HE came here to ask, and he's still doubting and ask more irrelevant questions, I say let him fend for himself.

It scares me that people like this get into medicine....... honestly GPA and MCAT once again have proven to still have many false positives.
 
I always chuckle to myself when people make threads and say "Well I could retake the MCAT and get in the 99th percentile" or "If I get 4.0's the rest of my college career I could end up with a __ gpa". I mean I "could" go on a date with Taylor Swift...

Also, in reference to the initially question, OP you, sir, are an idiot. There's probably a reason other than your MCAT as to why you've had limited success this cycle...
 
It scares me that people like this get into medicine....... honestly GPA and MCAT once again have proven to still have many false positives.
There's no reason for you to talk to a potential future colleague like that

OP is naive about many things, but that is no reason to jump down his throat and question his intelligence. That is why he came here looking for advice

To OP: I interviewed at PSU and am still waiting on my post-interview response from Downstate. PSU definitely is better in terms of research opportunities (but Downstate, you can easily commute to NYU to do research there). Downstate seems stronger in clinical teaching. Both are in completely different settings. PSU's hospital is doing better financially. And PSU has more class time requirements.

You can do well with either option and it mostly comes down to personal preference. And you might end up wanting to be in Philly in the end, who knows? Enjoy your acceptance and do the best you can
 
It scares me that people like this get into medicine....... honestly GPA and MCAT once again have proven to still have many false positives.

Godwin's SDN law, I win.

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I just don't know whether i can truly get a competitive residency in my home state (NY) such as orthopedics, neurosurgery, derm, etc if i go to penn state since i know many residencies prefer IS medical educations

NOT true.

For its recognition and education, is Penn state considered a low tier or mid tier school in terms of clinicals and research.

Mid

Would you guys say that attending Downstate over Penn State would increase my chances of getting a residency in NY?

No difference

I could vastly boost my MCAT to over 90 percentile and I have a full time research job and may be getting 2-3 publications so i would say thats a decent improvement along with more volunteering and shadowing

In time for primaries? If you truly believe your application will go from an average matriculant MCAT 31 to 37+
and have 2-3 pubs and significantly more volunteering and shadowing for primaries then its worth a gamble.

It's unfortunate that these things will be heavily overshadowed by a declined MD acceptance

I disagree if the above is attained.
 
Hey so I was in somewhat of a similar situation, and I'm not an SDN buff so this is coming from a normal person. These are the things I considered:
1. If you really think you want to apply again next year, then withdraw your application before you get accepted ANYWHERE. That's ok, but do not decline an acceptance to reapply.
2. Unlike law and business schools, U.S. MD school rankings don't mean much. Every accredited US MD school has a great MD education because it has to in order to keep up with our country's medical needs. Nobody is going to be like "OMG you went to X medical school and not an Ivy?" No, they're going to be like, "Wow, you went to medical school!" The only difference where rankings really matter is research opportunities and funding, but for me personally, I don't plan to do any big research projects in med school.
3. Price. A state school is so hard to pass up on. This is something I still struggle with, but hey, all medical schools are expensive unless they are the state school. And if you're going to reapply anyway to try to get into a top-tier school, then you're going to pay that much anyway.
Well I hope you make the right decision for you, and I hope I gave you some thoughts to ponder! Good luck!
 
withdraw your application before you get accepted ANYWHERE. That's ok, but do not decline an acceptance to reapply.

Hey all, first time writing on here so please show some decency and care. I am a recent college graduate and have applied for the 2016 entering class. I have gotten rejected from most schools besides a few I interviewed at. I recently got accepted into Penn State Hershey but am still waiting to hear back from my IS schools. My question is if I get rejected from my IS schools, should I accept my acceptance and run or reapply for the next year? I have a near-perfect GPA and fine extracurriculars. I know that my MCAT is my weakest link (specifically just one section). Only thing holding me back from Hershey is thats its a decent distance away from home, the OOS cost is pretty concerning, and I may want to specialize in a very competitive specialty after med school, primarily in my home state. Also, does anyone know how good of a school/tier/rank Penn state is and how competitive I may be coming out from there I want to remain IS but i was told to apply broadly to different states so i did so. I am grateful for the acceptance but I just want to hear from some other valuable sources. Thanks for your time and please try to remain civil and somewhat positive
 
You are applying an intellectual understanding and opinion to essentially what is an "emotional" issue that follows many premeds who move from OCD to neurotic to illogical fears by the end of the long preparation and application to medical school. I am sure most premeds have had lots of irrational worries during this whole long process. My original training as an MSW probably helps me more in advising than I think years of working in advising, admissions, and processing. The OP has fallen into a "fear" so to speak. As prospective physicians, you will all run into patients eventually who fit this "fear" reaction to a seemingly logical and rational issue. Part of our job is to show him/her hold their hand and show them there is nothing to fear and it will work out. Lets help him/her from making a bad decision in this case.
He has been given help and had his question answered with majority of the people saying the same thing. Yet he still doesn't want to listen. It's almost as if he want to hear the opposite answer. If that's the case, and he is deciding to ignore the help he has came here to get, then let's tell him what he wants to head.

Sure OP, pass your acceptance along to someone who would be more grateful and try your luck again next cycle. Best of luck to you.
 
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I just don't know whether i can truly get a competitive residency in my home state (NY) such as orthopedics, neurosurgery, derm, etc if i go to penn state since i know many residencies prefer IS medical educations

Dude, just go to Penn State. It is a great school.
 
So you think Downstate and Penn State won't be viewed much differently from a residency perspective? Also, do you happen to know which fares better in terms of research and clinical? I have been doing research but couldn't find much comparing the 2 programs.

When you have a second acceptance, your questions will become valid and meaningful. It'll still be kind of a toss-up between the two schools, but at this point, the relatively minor differences between the two schools are purely theoretical. You haven't been admitted to any other school.

For now, try to get yourself excited about Penn State. It's a good school that can get you where you want to go and you should get your head around that first.
 
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Oh this is a classic thing anyway, poster joins just to make a post contrary to all logic, then lightly defends it, and watch the forum explode in disbelief, never to post again. Rarely, does one keep the trolling going, and it takes real dedication for a account to last for months, which actually in itself is impressive.

On other forums, administrators have outed people trolling precisely for this reason. If only.
 
You are matriculating into an MD school and you don't even have the common sense to use the search function?

I just don't even know anymore.
 
At least the OOS tuition for Penn State isn't as crazy as other state schools! My friend attends Wayne State, and the tuition alone is 65k+. Penn State is only a little above 50k, so be grateful!
 
You all may be right. I have been hearing nothing but good things about Penn state including its clinical (especially how amazing hershey hospital is) and research assets and their impressive match list. Thanks for the consideration
 
You all may be right. I have been hearing nothing but good things about Penn state including its clinical (especially how amazing hershey hospital is) and research assets and their impressive match list. Thanks for the consideration
Did you attend the Second Look day last weekend? This gave a very student-centered, progressive and adaptive view of the learning environment. COL for the area certainly a plus and a great sense of community.
 
Did you attend the Second Look day last weekend? This gave a very student-centered, progressive and adaptive view of the learning environment. COL for the area certainly a plus and a great sense of community.

Hey i wasn't able to make it. Were you there and if so is there any info and thoughts you can share with me about how it was etc. Thanks
 
This thread is still around? Why care anymore? You have one acceptance, even if you know absolutely nothing about the school, many people will agree that if you decline it, your not getting another chance at a MD. Your worried about not being able to get a competitive residency in New York, when you don't seem to realize declining. will mean you won't be getting any residency anywhere
 
An acceptance to a US MD school in a town with a really cheap cost of living, an amusement park and that smells like chocolate all day everyday. Seriously? Dude, are you trying to get accepted to a school that's located at the literal end of a rainbow? That's the only way this could get better!


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