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Rooter76 said:
PHX will double to ~48 people this year. I thought they interviewed everyone who is in-state at Tucson, and almost everybody in Phoenix?
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I think they interviewed most everyone at Phoenix. I want to say that someone in my interview group in Tucson was assigned a community inteview rather than a Phoenix one...but I may be wrong on that one.
 
Rooter76 said:
PHX will double to ~48 people this year. I thought they interviewed everyone who is in-state at Tucson, and almost everybody in Phoenix?
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Everyone with a 21+ MCAT was interviewed at least at Tucson, then like 95% of those people were also interviewed by Phoenix.
 
why do they interview people with a 21+ mcat? I mean, does the UA actually accept people with such a low mcat? I know people who had 28 and above and were rejected? Does this mean those of us with lower mcats got a chance here? 🙄 lol hoping so for my sake...
 
Hatman said:
why do they interview people with a 21+ mcat? I mean, does the UA actually accept people with such a low mcat? I know people who had 28 and above and were rejected? Does this mean those of us with lower mcats got a chance here? 🙄 lol hoping so for my sake...
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Sure, some lower MCATs do have a chance. I think more than many other schools, they take into account (or weigh more heavily) other selection criteria.
 
Hatman said:
why do they interview people with a 21+ mcat? I mean, does the UA actually accept people with such a low mcat? I know people who had 28 and above and were rejected? Does this mean those of us with lower mcats got a chance here? 🙄 lol hoping so for my sake...
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UofA only considers people from Arizona, they are very strict about this (I had to appeal my domicile decision there, as did a lot of us.) and as a result only about 600-800 people are eventually considered. So having highly constraining MCAT policies would cut their pool down to very low levels. Before this year they didn't have any cutoff for the MCAT at all. So if you are from AZ and you have a 21+ MCAT you are almost guaranteed an inv (at least in Tucson, at PHX most likely) but if you are out of state you cannot even apply. The only exception is a couple WICHE students, but they are always highly qualified.

That doesn't mean they will accept you, their average in Tucson is a 29 and in Phoenix about a 30. A little bit below national average so they do take other things into account but you still need a respectable score.
 
Rooter76 said:
That doesn't mean they will accept you, their average in Tucson is a 29 and in Phoenix about a 30. A little bit below national average so they do take other things into account but you still need a respectable score.
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I don't have an MSAR handy, but I remember UofA accepting a couple people with extremely low Bio scores (last years MSAR showed the range of accepted scores and they had accepted someone with a 3 in bio...) Surely there aren't too many people like that since their averages aren't much lower than the national average, and I think their GPAs tend to be a little higher than average.
 
elderjack21 said:
I don't have an MSAR handy, but I remember UofA accepting a couple people with extremely low Bio scores (last years MSAR showed the range of accepted scores and they had accepted someone with a 3 in bio...) Surely there aren't too many people like that since their averages aren't much lower than the national average, and I think their GPAs tend to be a little higher than average.
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True. There are always those at every school. A 3 though, wow!?
 
goddddddddd why do they have to do this to us!!!!
I don't have any other acceptances, just one waitlist and that is a long shot.
I don't know if i should study to retake the mcat or what... WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME UA?
I Hate you.
9 more days... what are you guys doing to pass teh time? And don't tell me "Just don't think about it" because that is not an option at this point.
 
This is so exciting! What parts of AZ are you all from?

Good luck you guys! :luck:
 
chicksdigdocs said:
goddddddddd why do they have to do this to us!!!!
I don't have any other acceptances, just one waitlist and that is a long shot.
I don't know if i should study to retake the mcat or what... WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME UA?
I Hate you.
9 more days... what are you guys doing to pass teh time? And don't tell me "Just don't think about it" because that is not an option at this point.
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No reason to stress at this point. The decisions have already been made on who is in, who is out and who is in limbo. I sent an update letter about a month ago and told them that I would send the original snail mail, they said not to bother because the ADCOM would have already made all their decisions by that point in time.

All you can do is wait, good luck!
 
I've lived in Tucson and Phx. I am passing the time by working 9-10 hours a day and trying to get my paperwork together for the FAFSA and taxes, and catching up on Lost.
 
swim2006 said:
I've lived in Tucson and Phx. I am passing the time by working 9-10 hours a day and trying to get my paperwork together for the FAFSA and taxes, and catching up on Lost.
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Hey did you guys send your FAFSA in yet? I got their letter and I was surprised they wanted us to send it in before we were accepted. Another school that has already accepted me hasn't even requested it yet. I sent it in to UA but I was pissed I had to dredge through all my taxes before I expected to. lol
 
I am orginally from Peoria but now I am in Tucson.

Pretty stoked to hear back after such a long wait. I was at one of the first interview days and they were 1 day apart and a blur. Seems like forever ago.
 
I'm waiting on Phoenix...
I just signed up with sdn to "meet" some of my future classmates. Anyone already in Phx? (I am.)
It would be fun to do an outing, burgers and tasty beverages or something...
 
flagstaff? what's so great about flagstaff?? i'm from mesa (aka the best place on earth)
 
trogdorrr said:
I'm waiting on Phoenix...
I just signed up with sdn to "meet" some of my future classmates. Anyone already in Phx? (I am.)
It would be fun to do an outing, burgers and tasty beverages or something...
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Frosty beverages, but let's wait until we hear in 9 days.
 
UofA is my best shot...I'm going antsy....
I have no idea on what to think of my application...
31R with only a 3.35 (from ASU) cum and only a 3.13 science but upward trend (3.8 in the last year where I knocked out 37 credit hours) and 3.78 non-science...I just want to know already.
Thanks for reminding me I need to fill out my FAFSA.
 
U of A was the only school I applied to. I was waitlisted last year, so I'm hoping for a better shot this year. As I have lived in both places, I'll take either Tucson or Phoenix. I prefer the Phoenix area, but it probably won't matter once med school starts.
 
Rooter76 said:
PHX will double to ~48 people this year. I thought they interviewed everyone who is in-state at Tucson, and almost everybody in Phoenix?
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I also chose Phoenix as a first choice, sounds like that is the trend. I grew up in Tucson, and wouldn't mind going back there for medical school, but I have lived in Tempe for 4 years working on my undergrad degree and enjoy Phoenix more.

As far as interviews, I beleive they interview everyone at both locations. If Phoenix was your first choice, then both Tucson and Phoenix will consider you application. However, if Tucson was your first choice, only Tucson will review you application. This is what I was told at my inteview.

Hope it helps
 
So for those of you who already have other acceptances, what do you think will make your decision if you DO get accepted at U of A. Obviously the price tag will likely be lower at U of A even if you get some decent aid at your other acceptance. Do you think you'll drop your OOS acceptances for U of A if you get in? I'm curious to hear what the general consensus is.


Please discuss...
 
Final stretch everyone...one week!


NC Doc said:
So for those of you who already have other acceptances, what do you think will make your decision if you DO get accepted at U of A. Obviously the price tag will likely be lower at U of A even if you get some decent aid at your other acceptance. Do you think you'll drop your OOS acceptances for U of A if you get in? I'm curious to hear what the general consensus is.
Please discuss...
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I thought UofA was as good as the next. It's a good all-around program. It doesn't have any name dropping effect or anything but in my opinion, you get the same thing regardless of what school you go to, so I am not sure I could justify the cost of going OOS should UofA accept me. But should they not, I'm hoping I get some good scholarship offers at these other ones.

Hey I saw you got into Case, congrats, great school. I think I'm headed for a waitlist there!
 
Rooter76 said:
Final stretch everyone...one week!



I thought UofA was as good as the next. It's a good all-around program. It doesn't have any name dropping effect or anything but in my opinion, you get the same thing regardless of what school you go to, so I am not sure I could justify the cost of going OOS should UofA accept me. But should they not, I'm hoping I get some good scholarship offers at these other ones.

Hey I saw you got into Case, congrats, great school. I think I'm headed for a waitlist there!
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Thanks a lot! I am excited about my acceptances, but like you said, its hard to decide how much the cost should influence my decision. I thought the same as you, that UofA was just fine all around.

And Rooter76, good luck with your decision at Case, it really is an oustanding program! That's what makes the decision so tough.

Anyone else have any thoughts on the topic?
 
elderjack21 said:
So did anyone pick Tucson as their first choice?

Only 7 more days...
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I think strategically it is the best option to pick PHX. It seems as though Tucson will consider you and accept you regardless of what you preferenced. But at phoenix, apparently if you get accepted there and picked Tucson, they just defer you down there and give the phx spot to someone else. So if you picked PHX, you could theoretically have two acceptances and then get to pick and choose, but if you prefer Tucson than that is all you get regardless of if they accepted you in Phoenix or not. I think most applicants have picked up on this in a way, as UofA isn't shy to say that their long term goal is to have the cream of the crop go to PHX.

In actuality, it would be a tough choice for me, eventhough I preferenced PHX. Like we have already discussed (must have been a couple months ago now!) PHX will be pretty awesome after they get it going and established, but that will be after we are finished there anyways. For now TUC is the established campus/program. It would be a toss up for me if I get into both. Well, let's see if I get into one first! This is gonna be a slow week.
 
NC Doc said:
So for those of you who already have other acceptances, what do you think will make your decision if you DO get accepted at U of A. Obviously the price tag will likely be lower at U of A even if you get some decent aid at your other acceptance. Do you think you'll drop your OOS acceptances for U of A if you get in? I'm curious to hear what the general consensus is.


Please discuss...
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The obvious price tag factor would be huge for me. I am in at a couple private schools (Big $$) still waiting like everyone else for financial aid packages, and other schools I am OOS at, so they cost a lot as well.

It isn't all about the money, but when you are talking a difference of 20k a year plus interest, that isn't small change (for a medical student). Plus there seems to be more opportunities for scholarships when you are in-state as well.

If I get in at AZ-PHX I would drop a couple of my acceptances immediately, but still have to ponder what my final choice would be. Phoenix did a great job of selling their school, even though there wasn't a whole lot there physically if you know what I mean.

Not sure what I would do with an acceptance to Tucson though...I wasn't really feeling anything inspiring about the program (probably just me though). I grew up in Tucson and never went back after I graduated high school...so I kind of feel like it would be a step back for me. Guess we'll see in a week...
 
buffdoc said:
U of A was the only school I applied to.
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You are much braver than I (I think I applied to like 14 or so initially, but withdrew early on from at least half of them...what a waste of money!)...they say UofA has a thing with re-applicants, best of luck!
 
elderjack21 said:
they say UofA has a thing with re-applicants, best of luck!
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That's what I figured when I saw that 33% of their matriculants were reapplicants in 2006, and 25% in 2007. I decided not to waste the money. Plus, I really don't want to move out of state. But I guess I'll feel really dumb if I don't get accepted. Best of luck to you, too!
 
I am definitely going to UA Tucson if I'm accepted. I'm kind of surprised that I'm the only one on this thread that actually prefers Tucson. It's shocking that the next four years of my life will be decided in a week or two. Good luck to you all!
 
I selected Tuscon as my first choice. I really liked the college town atmosphere of Tuscon and I would HATE commuting every day to school. I realize that Phoenix may be the stronger program but I really see myself being happier in Tuscon.
 
Kingfish said:
I selected Tuscon as my first choice. I really liked the college town atmosphere of Tuscon and I would HATE commuting every day to school. I realize that Phoenix may be the stronger program but I really see myself being happier in Tuscon.
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I wouldn't say that Phoenix is the stronger program. Tucson is way more established with excellent faculty and preceptors, and a well respected university hospital. If I was choosing the stronger program, I'd pick Tucson. I just don't want to move too far away from my friends and family, and the idea of not packing all my furniture and stuff sounds really nice too.

Anyway, good luck to you!
 
I preferred phx because I really want to follow through on my research proposals and I really like the longitudinal primary care expereince. If I get into UA-phx I would drop my other acceptances as well as a few waitlists. There is one maybe two schools that I would go to over UA.
 
1: Neither of the admissions committess will ever see your preference form so if you chose Tucson you can be accepted at BOTH programs. This is what I was told at least and my interview was in December.

2) I chose Tucson even though I like a lot of what they are doing with Tucson.
The reasons were:
1) A library is important. Phoenix has two bookshelfs and a table.. so I'd be commuting to Tempe everyday for their facilities likely.
2) I like larger classes and having more people around me. I loved being an undergrad and getting to meet new people everyday. With Tucson you have the college of nursing and of pharmacy next to you, along with the entire UA campus across the street.
3) While I like the longitudinal study this is something you can also set up yourself if you know a doctor that would be willing to take you on so it wasn't a huge selling point.
4) The scholarly project is cool but I didn't like how it would limit my flexibility in the summer and I was kind of concerned that it had to be geared towards what you wanted to specialize in...I have NO IDEA where I'll end up yet.
5) UA Tucson has a hospital.

Now with that being said I'd possibly prefer to do my rotations in Phoenix likely; Mayo's an excellent place to train and many of the rotations are there.


But there are a lot of positives to the Phx campus as well:
1) More interaction with your professors and classmates since the class sizes are so small.
2) That lecture room is amazing.
3) Their facilities are really top-notch.
4) They have some really amazing professors and staff.
 
Proteinpowda said:
1: Neither of the admissions committess will ever see your preference form so if you chose Tucson you can be accepted at BOTH programs. This is what I was told at least and my interview was in December.
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While it is true you can be accepted at both, Phx did say that if you put your preference as Tucson you won't receive an acceptance email from phx (even if you were technically accepted to both). The viewing of the preference forms occurs at the Phx campus after all admission decisions are made.
 
swim2006 said:
While it is true you can be accepted at both, Phx did say that if you put your preference as Tucson you won't receive an acceptance email from phx (even if you were technically accepted to both). The viewing of the preference forms occurs at the Phx campus after all admission decisions are made.
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Sorry I misphrased that.
I was told something along the lines of "the campus preference form will only come into effect if you are admitted to both campuses."
 
Proteinpowda said:
1: Now with that being said I'd possibly prefer to do my rotations in Phoenix likely; Mayo's an excellent place to train and many of the rotations are there.
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I think you put it well (Tucson vs. Phoenix). They really are two different programs, with different points of focus. Nice that AZ now has a little more to choose from now (not that the D.O. programs don't offer some more variety, but we won't even go down that road here).

I heard Mayo is an excellent place to train if you are a resident or fellow...but that medical students are so far down on the totem pole there that you don't get to do much but stand around and shadow...not sure how true that is (just heard it from someone who worked at Mayo).

Just wondering if if Tucson was going to stop sending as many MSIIIs and MS IVs up to Phoenix for rotations now that the Phoenix campus is up and running? Was there any reason that they did it in the first place?
 
I hate to ask this but...where do I stand on the totem pole with a 3.35c and a 31R. I had the best MCAT (by a few points) out of the group at my interviews....but the GPA is low for UA. Any idea where I stand on the adcoms totem pole?
 
elderjack21 said:
Just wondering if if Tucson was going to stop sending as many MSIIIs and MS IVs up to Phoenix for rotations now that the Phoenix campus is up and running? Was there any reason that they did it in the first place?
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I asked one of the Deans in Tucson about M3 and M4s still coming to phx and he said the same number would come for the foreseeable future. To my knowledge the reason Tucson began sending students to PHX for M3 and M4 was that there was not enough "space" for clinical rotations to be done without having too many people on each service.

Proteinpowda said:
I hate to ask this but...where do I stand on the totem pole with a 3.35c and a 31R. I had the best MCAT (by a few points) out of the group at my interviews....but the GPA is low for UA. Any idea where I stand on the adcoms totem pole?
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I think it honestly depends on what else is in your application. UA is known for making decisions that don't always make sense to us outsiders. It is also true that UA does not look down upon reapplicants.
 
swim2006 said:
I asked one of the Deans in Tucson about M3 and M4s still coming to phx and he said the same number would come for the foreseeable future. To my knowledge the reason Tucson began sending students to PHX for M3 and M4 was that there was not enough "space" for clinical rotations to be done without having too many people on each service.



I think it honestly depends on what else is in your application. UA is known for making decisions that don't always make sense to us outsiders. It is also true that UA does not look down upon reapplicants.
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I would have to think that the interview weighs heavily w/ UA; they interview basically everyone; well anyone with an MCAT over 21 who is a resident.
 
elderjack21 said:
Just wondering if if Tucson was going to stop sending as many MSIIIs and MS IVs up to Phoenix for rotations now that the Phoenix campus is up and running? Was there any reason that they did it in the first place?
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Phoenix area is just a lot bigger than Tucson, there are more hospitals up there to rotate through.
 
Proteinpowda said:
1) A library is important. Phoenix has two bookshelfs and a table.. so I'd be commuting to Tempe everyday for their facilities likely.
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Yeah, that was one of my big negatives about PHX. The "library" leaves something to be desired. Although light rail will be up and running next fall and would take us straight to ASU to use one of those libraries.
 
Rooter76 said:
Yeah, that was one of my big negatives about PHX. The "library" leaves something to be desired. Although light rail will be up and running next fall and would take us straight to ASU to use one of those libraries.
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Time spent traveling could be time spent studying. And not everyone is going to want to travel. We're going to be crunched enough as it is. But hey hopefully the light rail won't be too noisy and we can study on it.
 
Proteinpowda said:
Time spent traveling could be time spent studying. And not everyone is going to want to travel. We're going to be crunched enough as it is. But hey hopefully the light rail won't be too noisy and we can study on it.
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Yeah thats what I was thinking, study on the train, then asu library, then train again. It can't be too noisy...
 
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