WildZoo's WWild ZZoo Part 2 - Game Thread

[Clem J]

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What I'm saying is, Santy played my wolf game and last game where I'm village. So if you're saying meta comparison is needed... he's already done that. He played it.

Well that's a more relevant thing to say, isn't it

 

[Khepri]

@Khepri - Talk to me more about your Genny read, I feel like we differ there. I thought she was reasonably towny yesterday. You mentioned a tinfoil Genny/Santy team I believe, do you think she's wolfy independently of that tinfoil?

The tinfoil is Clem/Santy. It's not something I would consider until xylo, however.

As for Genny, I don't think any of her posts so far are beyond what a wolf would make. She's moving more and more into the PoE just because I have town reads on most everyone else.

I was reevaluating if I was wrong about AM, and the pack didn’t make sense for her to really be pairs with most other players except Lawpy, and then I looked at Lawpy individually.

I mean it was a loose working idea I had 2 days ago. I’m not going to clog the thread debating who could have been in AM’s Pack when she’s dead and flipped village.

I would help us to know that you aren't just pulling things out of your arse if you could walk us through your reasoning. That AM couldn't be paired with anyone but Lawpy is a pretty significant claim.

Yes. Santa and psv seem village, Zenge is mostly there too.
You, mkg, Lawpy neutral.
A titch slimy: khepri, Clem
True seems wolfiest at the moment.

I was actually getting ready to unvote you and switch to True, but I think this read list is off. Your slimy tier reads as opportunistic to a high degree. I don't really believe it.

 

[NateTheLesser]

I mean it was a loose working idea I had 2 days ago. I’m not going to clog the thread debating who could have been in AM’s Pack when she’s dead and flipped village.

Yeah I get that. The reason I'm asking is because you presented your thought process as A (AM might be a wolf) -> B (she only works with w!Lawpy) -> C (actually Lawpy is independently wolfy). I didn't get a sense of (B) myself, so hearing more from you about that gives me a better handle on your progression.

 

[Khepri]

I was actually getting ready to unvote you and switch to True, but I think this read list is off. Your slimy tier reads as opportunistic to a high degree. I don't really believe it.

Also, the reads are very safe. It's like Genny is not trying to step on any toes.

 

[Santygrass]

In a village Lawpy world, I’d probably go back to looking at a Khepri + ??? Pack. I had a few people I would be comfortable plugging into the ??? Slot. Clem for example.

I’m leaning that you are most likely village.

I think PSV is most likely village.

With only two wolves and my feelings on this being a wolf!Lawpy world, then really everone else except one is village.

Lawpy’s push of Clem yesterday in response to you, makes me think it’s not Clem. I need to see more from MKG and genny (but if I had to guess I wouldn’t guess genny(but I could be 100% wrong there and it wouldn’t surprise me)). Could potentially see True, less so Nate but not impossible. Still unsure about Khepri.

Can you elaborate on Khepri? I feel like specially early your views aligned into Lawpy, so, what do you think about how they handled Lawpy? Does it seems wolfy to you or not? That type of questions. Because turning out on the other slot that helped you push your sus when you turn out to be wrong is... Something worrying about your push to start with imo.

As for the overall gamestate? You and PSV are solid, not worried about either of you at the moment. Need to review genny and MKG. Zenge and Lawpy both feel a little more aggro than I expect from them, so I'm trying to see how their reads and pushes progress. Having trouble understanding Khepri's everything, they vacillate between very towny and very sus to me. Clem seems to be "blending with the gamestate" in the same way you feel I am.

Can you explain why you feel Lawpy more aggro? Part of the reason I am lowkey nodding with the push on Lawpy is because I dont feel them that way.

Why would it be hard for you to not sus me? You were just in a game with me and I don't think my play was materially different. No need for either of us to have a skill issue over this, Santy. I do acknowledge that I've been extra out of it this weekend aside from last night, but my house is properly clean for the first time in a couple weeks and I ran a 5K, so I can't bring myself to feel bad about not being online enough. I'm going to be stuck at a computer for most of my workday tomorrow, so you will absolutely see more of me.

Proper readlist in the morning.

You had your vote on me a bug chunk of D1, and then your switch onto fluff just seemed like you knew they were town. I see no pushes or solving to a wolf, and I think your treatment of Lawpy this day was like doubtful but in a bad way? Like, not seeing the sus on Lawpy but agreeing to it, so in a V!Lawpy world I think you areletting Villa chop there without pushback. You just need to skate by . That is where my head is at rn.
Last game I was also a wolf(?) But you felt purer and the work you did seemed more... Genuine I guess. Here I can see an agenda or not so much towny motivation behind the stuff you are doing.

I don’t have a tally. Animal RecordKeepingwife probably knows, but you killed her in cold blood, didn’t you?

Regardless, my point in that conversation with PSV was she should reconsider reading you village off loose vibes when she’s never really played more than a cycle with you at best.

I was village reading you, and I did reevaluate, which is how I ended up at the conclusion I’m at currently. I’m asking PSV, with her limited Lawpy experience, to reevaluate and not be so quick to village read a player she doesn’t have much experience with.

Can you explain why you were villa reading Lawpy in D1? Maybe explanation in how you read Lawpy in general would be good imo.

On that note, my focus for today is on the fluffy voters

I see that you have voted Clem.
Can you order the likelihood of being mafia between the rest of Fluff voters? Relooking at the wagon/players, how likely do you think that the fluff wagon could be pure?

I think my push is wolf-driven. I’m displeased with Zenges and Nanooks especially since the former is sussing me in retrospect of making the D1 pushes that he agreed, and the latter just sheeps into his TRs that he acknowledges are surface level.

Ehh I kinda spoiled it a little bit with my thoughts here. But which slots you think are pushing you actively, and you feel like if there are some pushing you passively? Like, letting you got run over when you expect them to act differentbor something like that.

I mean it was a loose working idea I had 2 days ago. I’m not going to clog the thread debating who could have been in AM’s Pack when she’s dead and flipped village.

I want to know it still, because I want to see if your solving is genuine and you arent making stuff up to sus Lawpy.
Like, by current gamestate, I feel like your push on Lawpy has more merit atm? But in V!Lawpy world I would want your head in a spike pretty much. Khepri also said near Start of Day solve worlds in where you and Lawpy seemed like a difference check. And think that is likely, but if its wrong and you are both Villa you showing your thought process and how you got to your view rn would help me be more comfy with you, and maybe believe your push more.

 

[Santygrass]

Also, the reads are very safe. It's like Genny is not trying to step on any toes.

I think genny stepped on True's toes at this point tbh. With how the day was going genny voting True is most likely unparing.

Explain your townread on MKG to me?

 

[Zenge142]

Yeah I get that. The reason I'm asking is because you presented your thought process as A (AM might be a wolf) -> B (she only works with w!Lawpy) -> C (actually Lawpy is independently wolfy). I didn't get a sense of (B) myself, so hearing more from you about that gives me a better handle on your progression.

I guess I feel like the focus on “only works with” is just sort of irrelevant. If I had said “this makes the most sense” instead of only works with, would that have been clearer?

A lot of it was stemming from her inability to get a handle on him, and I wondered if it was a W/W situation where she didn’t want to immediately village read a packmate and keep potential distance when she’s known for having a god read on him.

 

[Santygrass]

Also, I think as some people pointed out, this kill probably points to a SDNer in the team.

Maybe its a little bias, but psv/me were the most townread sots or maybe more consensus one. So I think that a team consisting of two non SDN people its more likely to:
*Kill me, because I have more meta on slots like Khepri or Clem, and have the threadpull atm.
*Kill psv, because they wouldnt have more meta on SDN people to do a kindof fearkill, and AM only pushed fluff today, its unlikely that a wolfteam would feel threatened by her by their current reads.

I think this read in particular is good and can help us box some mecha-woofers. It doesnt help me as much tho because I am towncoring Khepri and Nate already so wowee

 

[Khepri]

I think genny stepped on True's toes at this point tbh. With how the day was going genny voting True is most likely unparing.

Explain your townread on MKG to me?

I don't think so. I think Genny and True are likely paired, and that's the only reason she feels safe with stepping on True's toes. Note that True hasn't really responded to Genny thinking he is scum.

 

[Khepri]

Also, I think as some people pointed out, this kill probably points to a SDNer in the team.

Maybe its a little bias, but psv/me were the most townread sots or maybe more consensus one. So I think that a team consisting of two non SDN people its more likely to:
*Kill me, because I have more meta on slots like Khepri or Clem, and have the threadpull atm.
*Kill psv, because they wouldnt have more meta on SDN people to do a kindof fearkill, and AM only pushed fluff today, its unlikely that a wolfteam would feel threatened by her by their current reads.

I think this read in particular is good and can help us box some mecha-woofers. It doesnt help me as much tho because I am towncoring Khepri and Nate already so wowee

For the record, I would have killed AM. People who only post in assertive one-liners frighten me as a wolf.

 

[Zenge142]

Because turning out on the other slot that helped you push your sus when you turn out to be wrong is... Something worrying about your push to start with imo.

I’m not quite sure what you’re saying here?

 

[Khepri]

My town core consists of 5 (me, Nate, PSV, Santy, MKG) with Nanook as an honorary member. I'd like to town case MKG but it requires a cognitive presence that I'm not able to divert to this game at the moment. She is just kind of obvious. @NateTheLesser @Santygrass

 

[Zenge142]

I want to know it still,

I would help us to know that you aren't just pulling things out of your arse if you could walk us through your reasoning. That AM couldn't be paired with anyone but Lawpy is a pretty significant claim.

I guess I feel like the focus on “only works with” is just sort of irrelevant. If I had said “this makes the most sense” instead of only works with, would that have been clearer?

A lot of it was stemming from her inability to get a handle on him, and I wondered if it was a W/W situation where she didn’t want to immediately village read a packmate and keep potential distance when she’s known for having a god read on him.

There’s my response to Nate asking the same question.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

For the record, I would have killed AM. People who only post in assertive one-liners frighten me as a wolf.

This is exactly how AM scares everyone 🤣

 

[potentialsheltervet]

My town core consists of 5 (me, Nate, PSV, Santy, MKG) with Nanook as an honorary member. I'd like to town case MKG but it requires a cognitive presence that I'm not able to divert to this game at the moment. She is just kind of obvious. @NateTheLesser @Santygrass

What makes you think MKG is obvious?

 

[Khepri]

There’s my response to Nate asking the same question.

I think my question is a bit different. I'm not concerned with how it led to thinking Lawpy is scum. I'm interested in why you think AM was unpaired with everyone else.

 

[Zenge142]

Can you explain why you were villa reading Lawpy in D1? Maybe explanation in how you read Lawpy in general would be good imo.

Thread presence and tone mostly initially felt genuine. Re-reading his posts felt like he was stoking fires

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Thread presence and tone mostly initially felt genuine. Re-reading his posts felt like he was stoking fires

Would you not say that is a typical playstyle for Lawpy?
Might be time for me to revisit Lawpy in LiterWWary.

 

[Zenge142]

I think my question is a bit different. I'm not concerned with how it led to thinking Lawpy is scum. I'm interested in why you think AM was unpaired with everyone else.

My response to that is in there.

Ultimately I don’t really think my choice of “only works with” Lawpy is really relevant. I should have said, I was thinking “if AM is scum, Lawpy is the most likely pairing”

 

[Zenge142]

Would you not say that is a typical playstyle for Lawpy?
Might be time for me to revisit Lawpy in LiterWWary.

No. I think it’s more typical for Lawpy to make game solving efforts which I don’t see here. I haven’t seen any posts that even come close to the kind of analysis I’ve seen from village Lawpy.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Holy smokes. Lawpy has 881 posts in LiterWWary. yowza.
Oho, also might be interesting to revisit what made me think he was scum D1 of CYO since we were both village there.

 

[Khepri]

I'm torn on you.

[...]

As for the overall gamestate? You and PSV are solid, not worried about either of you at the moment.

I don't think True is being internally consistent. His feelings on Santy in his post here contradict each other. Additionally, he has been focused on what the night kill indicates but hasn't directly joined the conversation. Only implying that he is pondering what it means. The obvious people implied are Lawpy > SNDer. People have mentioned both these things so I don't know why he is circling around it. It's similar to how he went about AM's response Day 1 that Genny pointed out.

 

[Santygrass]

I’m not quite sure what you’re saying here?

How I see it. If someone is pushing the same way as you, its like super easy to know if you can vibe with their push or not, cause it is something that makes your views align.
If you think that Khepri is sus and is pushing Lawpy with you, that should be something that make your view waver a little at least?

 

[Zenge142]

How I see it. If someone is pushing the same way as you, its like super easy to know if you can vibe with their push or not, cause it is something that makes your views align.
If you think that Khepri is sus and is pushing Lawpy with you, that should be something that make your view waver a little at least?

Couple of things.

1. They’re really not pushing Lawpy. Maybe a little in the early cycle, but that could very easily be distancing. Not even voting for Lawpy.

2. The reads are independent. I could see them as paired, but not necessarily. If Lawp flips wolf I’m less inclined to see Khepri as a wolf, but not impossible. If Lawp does flip green I’d (as of the beginning of this cycle, be more inclined to wolf read Khepri. But even that being said, if Lawp flips green I might just reevaluate everything and come to the conclusion that Khepri is lock town. They’ll be a lot of information from voting and flips.

 

[Khepri]

Khepri also said near Start of Day solve worlds in where you and Lawpy seemed like a difference check. And think that is likely, but if its wrong and you are both Villa you showing your thought process and how you got to your view rn would help me be more comfy with you, and maybe believe your push more.

For the record, I only think that if Zenge is scum, Lawpy is town. And that if Lawpy is scum, Zenge is town. I don't, however, think that if Lawpy is town, Zenge is necessarily scum.

 

[Santygrass]

How I see it. If someone is pushing the same way as you, its like super easy to know if you can vibe with their push or not, cause it is something that makes your views align.
If you think that Khepri is sus and is pushing Lawpy with you, that should be something that make your view waver a little at least?

To explain in other way:
You sus slot A , and have doubts in Slot B.

You start pushing slot A, and notice that slot B boost your findings and vote with you. What conclussion do you draw from this?

* You are right on your sus on A, and slot B is villa too and correctly aligned and boosted you.
*You are right on your sus on A , and slot B is boosting you while lowkey bussing to distance.
*You are wrong on your sus on A, and slot B is scum and is boosting your push in bad faith.
*You are wrong in your sus on A, but slot B is town and also viewed the same stuff from you and aligned with your views and is doing villa efforts with you. (This is the only world you seem to assume is not possible)

So, I want to know in which ways are you reading Khepri interactions with yourself and Lawpy and your thoughts on it mostly to see in which of this scenarios your mind is vibing more with?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Alright, I went back to CYO III (since that is Lawpy's most recent village game iirc, and Okami as a wolf game is... weird)

Spoiler: Quote Diarrhea

Dartboard reads: Staggs, WZ, MKG, Truey

Dartboard again

I’m going by the dartboards 🙁

Unyeet Staggs
Yeet MKG

Still sticking to the dartboard

Wait what happened

I have a secondary dartboard too 🤔

Lol I just thought this was funny

I see 🤔

I RNGed the roster pls

Explaining dartboard

Hold pls as i continue to catch up

Engaged 🤔

This looks odd to me

Wait explain clearly

scum!wondy might be willing to take a gamble knowing she can cause more chaos and take down another villager with her?

Hmm, this is a good point

I need to think

What pressure pls. I’m still active and pretty transparent with my questions and reasons.

I’m not latching onto anything. I just don’t readily buy the goo claim from that single Wondy post. At least Lumi was relatively active and gave additional thoughts in addition to their goo claim that I could understand and justify the chaos vote.

And I even explicitly said in response to Zenges’s post that I’m thinking about the situation at the moment, so I’m not sure why I’m getting criticized for being skeptical when I’m not even voting for Wondy.

Here he got somewhat reactive to me sussing him...

How is it being reactive when I’m explaining my reasons why I’m skeptical to Wondy’s claim which was the reason for your vote on me?

...and reactive to me calling him reactive...

Because I don’t rely on just a single post containing the claim alone when making decisions, and Lumi’s initial claim post in addition to their followup discussions at least gave some substance to work with that made me think their claim was genuine. A singular Wondy post that focused mostly on chaos and Lumi to make an aha! moment that both were fakeclaiming just didn’t sit right with me. That said, I am taking into account how that’d be an unusual step to do as scum!wondy because that’s just unnecessary sketch diverted to herself, which is why I’m still thinking about it and not voting her. I also recognized my earlier bias when I said that I’d rather not yeet Lumi who’s new to SDN on D1.

...and a deeper explanation

This is engaging

So what I'm seeing: some reactivity to pressure, some explanation of his thought process, but a whole lot of "engaged" "displeased" "hmm". All in all, not dissimilar to this game?
@Zenge142 Did you happen to look at CYO III as well? I know you were mafia in that. Yes, Lawpy died N1 that game, but I feel like your issues with him this game are things he did as village in that game (see above) so I'm still not getting your push on him.

 

[Zenge142]

* You are right on your sus on A, and slot B is villa too and correctly aligned and boosted you.
*You are right on your sus on A , and slot B is boosting you while lowkey bussing to distance.

Either of these I think are possible. If Lawpy flips Red I would be more likely to think the top, but will wait to see how the day plays out and analyze from there.

*You are wrong on your sus on A, and slot B is scum and is boosting your push in bad faith.
*You are wrong in your sus on A, but slot B is town and also viewed the same stuff from you and aligned with your views and is doing villa efforts with you. (This is the only world you seem to assume is not possible)

Top I think is possible. I don’t think the bottom is impossible. I’ve been wildly off base before.

 

[Zenge142]

but a whole lot of "engaged" "displeased" "hmm". All in all, not dissimilar to this game?

That’s something he would do as a wolf or a villager. It’s irrelevant and NAI.

 

[Zenge142]

@Zenge142 Did you happen to look at CYO III as well? I know you were mafia in that. Yes, Lawpy died N1 that game, but I feel like your issues with him this game are things he did as village in that game (see above) so I'm still not getting your push on him.

Let me see if I can find a more thought provoking and game solving Lawpy game.

 

[genny]

For the record, I would have killed AM. People who only post in assertive one-liners frighten me as a wolf.

I feel like everyone except you has real motivation to kill AM this game, since last game she won as scum with Santy.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 2: The Ants Just Wanna Have FUN Vote Tally

True (2) - Santy, genny
Lawpy (2) - Clem, Zenge
genny (1) -Khepri
Clem (1) - Lawpy

6/10

Missing: @mkg323 @NateTheLesser @potentialsheltervet @Truenamer

Vote closes at 10pm EDT TODAY (~7.5 hours)

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Let me see if I can find a more thought provoking and game solving Lawpy game.

You probably can, but that isn't my point. My point is he was village in CYO III and what I'm seeing there is similar to what I'm seeing here. That game was also "only" a few months ago. Any game you find will be farther back than that unless for some reason you're planning to look at Okami.
So essentially I'm saying what you claim to be AI/wolfy for him isn't necessarily since he did that in a confirmed village game as well.

 

[genny]

I don't think so. I think Genny and True are likely paired, and that's the only reason she feels safe with stepping on True's toes. Note that True hasn't really responded to Genny thinking he is scum.

That’s not how I wolf. That’s how I village: clumsily, in spurts, with few posts. If I had village theme music, it would be:

Spoiler: Listening not recommended

 

[potentialsheltervet]

That’s something he would do as a wolf or a villager. It’s irrelevant and NAI.

It's not irrelevant, though. Your issue is he feels less analyzing than usual here, yes? I don't consider "engaged" or "noting this" to be heavy on the analysis.

 

[WildZoo]

Super random, but I'm trying to imagine the flavor of a leafcutter ant being the jailer. Picturing a tiny ant scrambling to grab leaves and build a lil' leaf fort to keep like a cheetah or bear inside their enclosure. "YOU-" puff puff "SHALL NOT PASS!"

You'd be surprised. Leafcutter ants have lots of friends, and they are very strong.

 

[Zenge142]

It's not irrelevant, though. Your issue is he feels less analyzing than usual here, yes? I don't consider "engaged" or "noting this" to be heavy on the analysis.

I’m saying his fluffy “engaged” posts are NAI he does them as a villager. If I’m right here, then he doesn’t them as a wolf too.

Here are some posts from Madagascar where he was village and I think putting a lot more effort into understanding peoples thoughts and trying to solve the game. I think the contrast from these posts to his “efforts” this game are starkly different.

Spoiler

Why are there 3 votes on zenges? Are they all based on the last game? @Animal Midwife @Aprilthearab @WildZoo

Seeing how fast the Strogs wagon dissipated, it was probable the same could happen to alleys wagon.

Maybe they were trying to save strogs and we had a temporarily bussing wolf in play?

Reads and quick thoughts? I know you said you're drafting a long post but would like to hear some thoughts even if brief. I think you voted MKG before self prezzing

The dodginess with the poems in response to your questions oddly makes him less wolfy to me from the bioshock parallels (he was village sided 3p).

It's like a mix of game discussion + trolly poems. D1 showed he's fixed on you but he did share thoughts on the last minute wagonomics

I was trying to understand why AM put mayos in her POE because i didn't find mayos to be wolfy from his posts

Can you guys walk me through the reasons for the genny wagon? I saw WZ's reads so i get her vote, but i'm lost about others

 

[Zenge142]

I feel like everyone except you has real motivation to kill AM this game, since last game she won as scum with Santy.

 

[Zenge142]

So essentially I'm saying what you claim to be AI/wolfy for him isn't necessarily since he did that in a confirmed village game as well.

I think you’re misunderstanding my point. I’m not saying he’s Wolfy because of the “engaged” type fluff posts. I’m saying he’s Wolfy because the content posts lack depth.

Hopefully the posts I pulled from Madagascar in my other post can help you see the difference in tone and analytical thinking.

 

[genny]

Clearly your motivation is framing Lawpy lol

 

[Khepri]

Unvote: Genny
Vote: True

 

[Khepri]

I'm probably going to be off for the rest of the day so this is where my vote is sticking. See you all tonight!

 

[Zenge142]

Clearly your motivation is framing Lawpy lol

 

[NateTheLesser]

So here's some backstory, because I think it is necessary in this case:
I had a really good track record of reading True. As in, needed maybe two posts to figure out his alignment. Then a few games ago he was a wolf and I decided to ignore the vague tickle in my stomach and yeet him into my village pile. Last game I came in hot thinking he sounded like wolf!True. He was village.
So basically, I'm conflicted because I could see wolf!True, but my heart wants it to be village!True. I'm hesitant to claim a read either way because, uh, I've been pretty wrong lately on him. And it hurts me to yeet True if I'm not confident he's wolfing because it makes me really sad.
He's still sorta neutral all things considered because I don't really think he's said anything AI thus far.

Are you just hoping he'll show up and say something AI?

I think he's an important slot to solve since he's a potential yeet today, and people who are more familiar with him are helpful in that. Genny has him as a pretty firm scumread, does that seem off to you?

 

[NateTheLesser]

I guess I feel like the focus on “only works with” is just sort of irrelevant. If I had said “this makes the most sense” instead of only works with, would that have been clearer?

A lot of it was stemming from her inability to get a handle on him, and I wondered if it was a W/W situation where she didn’t want to immediately village read a packmate and keep potential distance when she’s known for having a god read on him.

Okay, so you thought she was being more indecisive on Lawpy than you would expect. Early on I did get the sense that she was reluctant to give solid reads, but I didn't know about her "god read" so her being neutral on Lawpy didn't stand out to me in particular. But I can see why that would be significant to you.

 

[Zenge142]

Okay, so you thought she was being more indecisive on Lawpy than you would expect. Early on I did get the sense that she was reluctant to give solid reads, but I didn't know about her "god read" so her being neutral on Lawpy didn't stand out to me in particular. But I can see why that would be significant to you.

And that’s not to say AM should have absolutely had a read on Lawpy by that point.

It’s just that not having one yet made me paranoid enough to rethink my AM read in the context of a AM/Lawpy pack.

Then looking at it further felt Lawpy was just generally more Wolfy than I initially realized.

 

[Truenamer]

Hi folks, sorry about being absent today. Was not my plan, showed up to work to multiple fires, one of which was (almost) literal.

Haven't read anything since end of page 20, catching up now before an event I have to attend from 5-7.

Just want to clarify one thing for everyone:

I am never getting yeeted this game and if you are a villager I recommend solving outside me

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Are you just hoping he'll show up and say something AI?

I think he's an important slot to solve since he's a potential yeet today, and people who are more familiar with him are helpful in that. Genny has him as a pretty firm scumread, does that seem off to you?

Yes, basically. Or he'll get yoten and be scum without me having to help.
I think genny typically reads true as scum? She's been pretty quiet which is NAI for her.

 

[Truenamer]

Yes, basically. Or he'll get yoten and be scum without me having to help.
I think genny typically reads true as scum? She's been pretty quiet which is NAI for her.

Briefly popping away from page 20 to say that yes, genny and I have a mild problem of pointing guns at each other regardless of alignment. More my problem than hers, but I don't blame her for having an easier time voting for me given that I've either misyeeted her or sussed her incorrectly since... forever.

Her being quite is NAI, I agree.

Also, you don't want me to be yoten, because you know that I'm not a wolf this game.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I’m saying his fluffy “engaged” posts are NAI he does them as a villager. If I’m right here, then he doesn’t them as a wolf too.

Here are some posts from Madagascar where he was village and I think putting a lot more effort into understanding peoples thoughts and trying to solve the game. I think the contrast from these posts to his “efforts” this game are starkly different.

When was Madagascar?
As in, do you find this village game more likely to be relevant than the one from a few months ago?