WildZoo's WWild ZZoo Part 2 - Game Thread

[potentialsheltervet]

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Its Skill Issue in self preservation

I'd rather die pls. I feel like I always live to endgame or close to it and I'd rather be granted the honor of being NK'd early at least once in a while.

 

[Khepri]

Ok so a quick skim through things, and I think True is the only player who can be the last scum.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Ok so a quick skim through things, and I think True is the only player who can be the last scum.

Why's that?

 

[Santygrass]

I think the Villacore of Nate/Khepri/Psv/Genny/Zenge/me is a lockWin at this point.

 

[genny]

I think the Villacore of Nate/Khepri/Psv/Genny/Zenge/me is a lockWin at this point.

what about nanook?

 

[Santygrass]

what about nanook?

I think they are fairly villa tbh? But not towncore material. Prob my mind is like Mkg / True > Clem as in to look tomorrow

 

[Truenamer]

I think they are fairly villa tbh? But not towncore material. Prob my mind is like Mkg / True > Clem as in to look tomorrowtomorrow

Santygrass > MKG/True > Clem

 

[Truenamer]

Ok so a quick skim through things, and I think True is the only player who can be the last scum.

Lmao absolutely not, try again.

 

[Truenamer]

I think they are fairly villa tbh? But not towncore material. Prob my mind is like Mkg / True > Clem as in to look tomorrow

Gonna have to step me through the logic of your whole PoE being Lawpy voters

 

[Santygrass]

Gonna have to step me through the logic of your whole PoE being Lawpy voters

I think if you read my post you should know that I am not sussing anyone who didnt vote for Lawpy, and Lawpy wagon has half the game? Like lol

Mkg Switch was not too decisive I think? Maybe recheck that. But overall their content doesnt have anything that makes me clear there /shrug.
You were literally the cw, and even them you showed resistance to vote there
Clem has like, the weakest reasoning / sus on Lawpy, but he was there since almost start so thats why he is a tier above

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Wow, I'm still the highest poster after two whole cycles?
S k i l l issue, all of you!
(Ik it's because shorty and Dubz and samac aren't playing... but let me have this one!)

 

[Khepri]

Also, with Zenge's push out of my mouth now. I will also say that Lawpy saying that they were going to focus on fluff voters, and going to try to start a Clem wagon, when True already had a vote and didnt have a... Good vote in Fluff either is something I have in mind wowee.

Town post from Santy.

 

[Truenamer]

People I will brook no argument about the villagosity of:
Zenge
genny
PSV

People I will brook some argument about the villagosity of:
Clem
MKG

People I'm set to brook arguments about:
Santy
Nate
Khepri

 

[genny]

Mkg Switch was not too decisive I think?

mkg switch was what flipped the vote to lawpy.

 

[Santygrass]

Contingency Yeet Truenamer

 

[Santygrass]

mkg switch was what flipped the vote to lawpy.

This is a good point. That plus the fact that Lawpy chose to vote Clem makes me go auto True tbh.
Maybe tomorrow I'll reassess who knows

 

[genny]

People I'm set to brook arguments about:
Santy
Nate
Khepri

I think this is unpairing for Nate:

Day 1: Life Finds A Way Vote Tally

Khepri (2) - Zenges, genny
Zenges ()
Santy (1) - True
mkg ()
fluff (2) - AM, Nate
Clem ()
Nate (4) - Lawpy, fluff, PSV, Clem
Truey (2) - Khepri, Santy

11/12
Winning: @NateTheLesser
Missing: @mkg323

Vote closes at 10pm EDT TODAY (~15 minutes)

 

[Khepri]

I don't want to say Lawpy because he isn't here to defend himself and it's the "safer" option and I haven't played with him much

I don't know. I don't know.

Wolfy.

 

[Khepri]

I'm the consensus because people are lazy and it's safe to fall behind the consensus. It doesn't mean they played well.

Caught for the wrong reasons frustration.

 

[Khepri]

Christ, he's being weird as hell and he might not be here because he doesn't need to worry about anything.

He also resolves Zenge. He probably resolves Clem, who is also sus.

Yeet Lawpy.

Wolfy/bus vote. Very different from the fluff vote.

 

[Santygrass]

Day 1: Life Finds A Way FINAL Vote Tally

Khepri (3) - Zenges, genny, PSV
Zenges ()
Santy ()
mkg ()
fluff (6) - AM, Nate, Santy, Clem, Khepri, True
Clem ()
Nate (3) - Lawpy, fluff, mkg
Truey ()

12/12

Vote CLOSED

Singnaling the EoD 1 Votecount.

Lawpy said that their plan was to focus on fluff voters today. And from there I think Nate is just spewed V . And overall I say is probably.... Pure? Only one maybe scum there is True. But in V!True worlds I'd look maybe at genny and mkg.

@Zenpocrit I'm looking at True, genny, mkg, and Clem.

Do you think its possible this is all Villa?

 

[Khepri]

I'm sorry for how my post came across, my intention was not to upset you. I understand your frustration with how the vote is going, I promise you, I've been there many times. I literally reread all of D1 in order to get to this conclusion, so while I havent been as active on the current game thread as many others, I have been putting time into this game. Is that still less time spent than some others here? definitely. Do I wish I was able to spend more time on thread? Of course! but this is the best I can do right now with my other commitments, and that isnt going to change. I'll be around till vote close if you'd like to talk about other wagons.

Incredibly obvitown.

 

[genny]

I don’t think it’s impossible that he and LaWWpy are paired.

Please say things before you die

 

[NateTheLesser]

Updated:

Vote Spreadsheet​

For your wagonomics pleasure. I'll probably just keep editing this post to update it (as long as I'm alive), so bookmark it for later.
- All the day's votes are listed in chronological order, and on the right side is a running vote count that shows what the vote count was after each vote.

Day 1 Votes

Day 2 Votes

All Votes By Player

EOD Wagons

 

[NateTheLesser]

I have a VCA hot take but I'm gonna save it.

 

[Zenge142]

I have a VCA hot take but I'm gonna save it.

For what!? You could be dead!

 

[NateTheLesser]

For what!? You could be dead!

Because if it's terribad I don't want anyone to sheep it 😀

 

[Truenamer]

Contingency Yeet Truenamer

Mans is *flailing*

 

[Truenamer]

Wolfy.

Caught for the wrong reasons frustration.

Wolfy/bus vote. Very different from the fluff vote.

I hope you're a wolf, otherwise you need to put some reps in at the "reading Truenamer" gym

 

[Santygrass]

Wowee you were village reading me even though I was sussing you through the day and now you are so sure that I am a wolf? And that is flailing?

Thank you for howling for me in that way I guess

 

[Truenamer]

Wowee you were village reading me even though I was sussing you through the day and now you are so sure that I am a wolf? And that is flailing?

Thank you for howling for me in that way I guess

Santy, go back and check my posts where I talk about you, I've been stressing about your alignment since day one. Literally read them, I can call them up for you later if you need the help.

You might not be a wolf, but you are flailing. You're welcome for helping catch Lawpy. Or, alternatively, sorry if I helped catch your partner.

 

[kaydubs]

night 2 closed, results pending

 

[WildZoo]

Woah, the italics are so...spooky

 

[Santygrass]

No heck, bro, I can only type so fast

also haven't eaten since literal breakfast, clam down



Rough reads as they stand

God I Hope They're Village:
PSV
Santy

Really wish I knew what the heck you're doing
Khepri
Nate
Clem

Oh no baby, what is you doing?
Zenge
Lawpy

With guest appearance reads

How Am I Supposed to Bake a Cake with No Flour?
MKG
genny

Omg, the power of checking the past posts!

What's in my head? It's that two of you want this and the rest of you don't want to stick your necks out and go against the Santy Train.

Unfortunately, your conductor is wrong and doesn't seem inclined to switch tracks.

And here you are just addressing me as Villa. Sorry not sorry True. Your progression on me doesnt add up

 

[Truenamer]

Omg, the power of checking the past posts!


And here you are just addressing me as Villa. Sorry not sorry True. Your progression on me doesnt add up

Oh my god, you actually are a wolf. Either that, or it finally makes sense to me why MU folks can't seem to win any village games.

 

[Santygrass]

Care to explain your progression on me rather than be disrespectful and community bash?
I have Skill Issue, not the MU people pls

 

[Truenamer]

Care to explain your progression on me rather than be disrespectful and community bash?
I have Skill Issue, not the MU people pls

You are actively and aggressively cherry picking my posts. And you have to cherry pick them pretty hard, because even in the two that you quoted I express some concern and doubt about you.

For example, saying that you are the one driving the train does not indicate that I think you're being a good villager.

But here, please, enjoy all the other posts where I mention you that you decided to just fully ignore. Not sure why you would do that as a villager, maybe it's just skill issue?

I feel good about PSV and Lawpy being Village.

And comparing to last game , I feel like Nate has made more villagery posts tbh, so I am leaning village there too. Psv just said that they are like asking question to see where to follow, but I felt they felt with more *intent* to figure out stuff, they voted a little more freely compared with last game and all. Like, PSV dont you agree that the reasons you are saying rn apply to Nate last game too?


Clem not moving to Kephri also should be alignment indicative weh. Still undecided if Zenge/Kephri are both Villa, gut says no, but also that a misyeeting one of them to flip Villa is kinda bad. And dont want to just be 'lol my reads are better you tr on Zenge mean nothing to me'

Fluff post regarding their gameview also felt villagery. So should re-eval maybe.

Summarized:

Village: Santy-PSV-Lawpy
VillaLean: Nate
Munching: Everyone else
Hmmm Tier: Zenge / Kephri

unyeet Santy

Not convinced he's village but I just can't punish all this legwork he's putting in

I was flustered and felt like I needed to choose one of the three wagons to put my vote on. Felt very weak to spend all that time catching up and not make an impactful vote, but when push came to shove I didn't have a clear wolf-read.

Of the folks up for debate, I felt like fluff had the most clear moments that felt like Wolf!Fluff. I also feel like I have a bias problem against the new folks, and I was trying to compensate for that. Once the vote went through, buyer's remorse kicked in, and fluff's immediate reaction felt like misyeeted fluff, not caught-wolf fluff.


Falling asleep so I will give more in the morning:

Never played with you as a wolf (aside from your valiant attempt to sub into a game last minute), but I appreciate the way you've been playing in the active solving attempts you've been making. Need more time to get a feel for you.

Khepri is very confusing to me. I feel like they're neutral right now, but it's a "has a bunch of village points and Wolf points" kind of neutral, not "floating in the Beige Zone" kind.

Santy's doing a decent JJJ impression, I do think I can say at this point that he feels different from last game. Enough that I want to village read him despite my fear of being gotten by the same person twice in a row.

PSV is very likely village.

Zenge feels good.

AM is AM, recalibrating my reads on her from last game. Hoping we can solve her with voting analysis.

Clem is in a similar confusion wagon with Khepri where I feel like he's got moments I really like and moment that feel very sketchy or "wolf trying to slide by"

MKG feels less wolfy than usual? Like, not very wolfy. She feels like a normal participatory villager.

Uh

I'm missing people. If I'm missing you, I apologize, half asleep, will do everyone proper in the morning.

Noting the coordination between Santy and Khepri. Remind me, how much history together do they have?

I have had a hard time with Nate, Khepri, and Santy. I believe Santy is Village now, or at least good enough. I'm not actively wolfreading Nate, he's still in my neutrals; that comment is meant to be helpful posthumously in case y'all do choke on me.

Of the higher posters, Santy scares me despite it all. This sounds terrible but I hope he gets NK's so I don't have to drive myself crazy thinking I gave him the village pass just for his high-effort and funny play.

 

[Truenamer]

Mr. "Ooh I'm going to jump onto Lawpy's yeet too, about one minute too late for it to count and twenty minutes too late for it to matter" trying to act like he's the keeper of the Village

Good lord

 

[Santygrass]

You are actively and aggressively cherry picking my posts. And you have to cherry pick them pretty hard, because even in the two that you quoted I express some concern and doubt about you.

U put me in the top of your reads true. And now I am your most confident wolfread. Is that cherrypicking? I think not tbh.
Like, you are saying you expressed concern but you have been hedging almost all of your reads that way then lol

For example, saying that you are the one driving the train does not indicate that I think you're being a good villager.

But here, please, enjoy all the other posts where I mention you that you decided to just fully ignore. Not sure why you would do that as a villager, maybe it's just skill issue?

Yes, you saw me leading the train and didnt expess doubt on me or said that I was pushing the ml, you said mostly that I was *wrong*. That is you addressing me as villa

 

[Clem J]

what about nanook?

Yeah really, big sad uwu moment

 

[Santygrass]

Mr. "Ooh I'm going to jump onto Lawpy's yeet too, about one minute too late for it to count and twenty minutes too late for it to matter" trying to act like he's the keeper of the Village

Good lord

And why are you even bringing this up?

 

[WildZoo]

Night 2

The night was quiet. Almost...too quiet. Where were the sounds of all the nocturnal creatures, hunting and playing in the moonlight? It seemed they were all too afraid of the poachers and their machines to risk going out in the dark.

In the aquarium, a cuttlefish chatted with a bottlenose dolphin. The males were dinguses, but her companion was a female, so she felt okay hanging out with her. She told a tale of banana suits, and the dolphin laughed at all the right times. After a while, the levity of their conversation relaxed them enough that they both could finally sleep. Besides, there was little reason for the poachers to mess around in the aquarium. Too much work for little reward. The cuttlefish drifted into a fitful sleep, dreaming of chihuahuas in banana suits and a friendly black lab that was too enthusiastic with its mouthy play.

In the morning, the cuttlefish was gone. There was no obvious damage in the aquarium, just a trail of water leading away from the tank and out into the park.

Spoiler: Dead is...

@genny, who was a Cuttlefish, and a vanilla villager

Over 120 species of cuttlefish are recognized, grouped into six families divided between two suborders. One of these suborders and one additional family are extinct, leaving three families. The best-known species is the common cuttlefish, Sepia officinalis, while the largest is the giant cuttlefish, which can grow to 50cm in length. While they may look rather squishy, cuttlefish have a long, oval bone within their bodies called a cuttlebone, which they use to regulate their buoyancy. They also have three hearts, two of which pump blood to their gills, and the third providing circulation to the rest of the body. They are inquisitive and intelligent, and have the largest brain to body size ratio of all the invertebrates.

8 players remain

1. @Clem J
2. @potentialsheltervet
3. @mkg323
6. @Khepri
7. @Zenge142
8. @Truenamer
9. @NateTheLesser
11. @Santygrass

Dead:
4. @justafluff - Eastern cottontail - vanillager
10. @Animal Midwife - Leafcutter ant - village jailer
uts. @Lawpy - Poacher 2 (Coquerel's sifaka) - Wolf 1x strongman
5. @genny - Cuttlefish - vanillager

It is now Day 3. Deadline is 10pm EDT TOMORROW, 10/12.​

 

[potentialsheltervet]

...hmm

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Gotta recheck genny's reads.

 

[Santygrass]

Gotta recheck genny's reads.

I think it'll be more helpful to think why is Zenge alive, tbh

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Yes. Santa and psv seem village, Zenge is mostly there too.
You, mkg, Lawpy neutral.
A titch slimy: khepri, Clem
True seems wolfiest at the moment.

Most recent reads list

are you going to lead a last minute wafflefest onto zenge now?

Addressing Lawpy

what about nanook?

I.e., why isn't he towncored

mkg switch was what flipped the vote to lawpy.

Seems to move mkg more village... I think?

I think this is unpairing for Nate:

As in, Nate is unlikely to be Lawpy's partner.
So if I'm interpreting correctly, her reads would be something like:
Village: Santa, PSV, Zenge, mkg
Slime: Khepri, Clem, true?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I think it'll be more helpful to think why is Zenge alive, tbh

(Inb4 Sporty angeries) he doesn't bus though, and he certainly wouldn't swing that violently at a partner. He has to be village.
So either his reads are super wrong and wolf felt comfy leaving him alive or they're accurate and wolf wanted WIFOM.

 

[Santygrass]

(Inb4 Sporty angeries) he doesn't bus though, and he certainly wouldn't swing that violently at a partner. He has to be village.
So either his reads are super wrong and wolf felt comfy leaving him alive or they're accurate and wolf wanted WIFOM.

I'm not saying that Zenge is a wolf. I'd say to look which wolves would be okay with Zenge alive tbh.

Because... I dont think a wolf would feel threatened by genny's reads pretty much considering their threadpull, so there was a decision in *not* killing Zenge. And I think we can gather more reads there rather than genny's reads pretty much?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I'm not saying that Zenge is a wolf. I'd say to look which wolves would be okay with Zenge alive tbh.

Because... I dont think a wolf would feel threatened by genny's reads pretty much considering their threadpull, so there was a decision in *not* killing Zenge. And I think we can gather more reads there rather than genny's reads pretty much?

Yeah. There's also something to be said for wolves leaving a detractor alive just because "wow, a wolf wouldn't do that!" That's something that has been discussed on this forum before.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@Zenge142 Who do you think would be least likely to kill you? Or I guess just updated reads since you live.