WildZoo's WWild ZZoo Part 2 - Game Thread

[Santygrass]

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Santy, early on you said you were townreading PSV because in her wolf game her pushes didn't seem like they had conviction behind them (or something like that). Have you seen that towny conviction from her here? Cuz I'm not really seeing any strong pushes.

Tbh I'm more surprised Santy thought I ever have a lot of conviction because I typically just go "okay push here".
Ex: last game. "AM is probably a wolf" but I usually go off of vibes and that's *really* hard to justify in a way that gets other people to vote with you.
So, this game I've been attempting not to replicate that and actually try to substantiate my thoughts/feels. Also though I'm going through some WW fatigue and I was really hoping to be dead by this point 'cuz I'm kinda running out of steam.

Ehhh, last game in comparison you were rrally genuine and your pushes altho kinda lacking in substance had *conviction* . Idk english hard to explain

Tho I can agree that everyone else has gotten townier since D1 and PSV is kinda in that same headspace still. Guess Im still pocketed just by the meta comparisons early and just the energy that you had to unveil stuff. Khepri also said that your Lawpy Meta seemed genuine .

If anything , I lean on PSV running around like a headless chicken without much direction or agenda rn.

And in my position rn reevaling other slots when I Have a slot that I have reasons to sus + Having better reasons to tr everyone else its like no good use of my time rn/?

 

[Zenge142]

Yeet Clem

Water ewe dew inn!?!?

(I'm driving rn. bad me driving and WWing)

 

[Santygrass]

I don't want to yeet True though 🙁

I'm not going to move my vote off True until he is yeeted or game ends tho. Sadge but *true*

 

[kaydubs]

I think we are goong to yeet Dubz

Thanks, now I can go sleepies.

 

[Zenge142]

I'm not going to move my vote off True until he is yeeted or game ends tho. Sadge but *true*

Did you not find Nate’s points about True compelling?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

If anything , I lean on PSV running around like a headless chicken without much direction or agenda rn.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I'm not going to move my vote off True until he is yeeted or game ends tho. Sadge but *true*

Why not?

 

[NateTheLesser]

I don't want to yeet True though 🙁

Do you think he's town?

 

[Zenge142]

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Are you wolfing PSV? You can tell me. Put it in a spoiler so no one else sees. I’ll keep the secret 🤐

 

[kaydubs]

Day 3: Big Brain Vote Tally

Truey (3) - Santy, Khepri, Clem
Khepri ()
Santy (1) - True
Clem (1) - PSV

5/8
Missing: @NateTheLesser @mkg323 @Zenge142

Deadline: 10pm EDT TODAY (~4 hours)

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Water ewe dew inn!?!?

Yeeting True feels sad. Yeeting Santy doesn't feel right either. Obviously yeeting you is not the answer. Santy feels strongly about not yeeting Khepri or Nate.
I still don't really feel like mkg is villagery but tipping the scales toward Lawpy EOD yesterday... that'd be some serious bussing.
Clem and mkg I both forget are playing lol.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Do you think he's town?

I'm not sure. I just get sad to yeet True.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Are you wolfing PSV? You can tell me. Put it in a spoiler so no one else sees. I’ll keep the secret 🤐

 

[Zenge142]

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[potentialsheltervet]

🤔

 

[NateTheLesser]

Did you not find Nate’s points about True compelling?

He's been fairly clear that he does not 😀

 

[Santygrass]

Did you not find Nate’s points about True compelling?

I replied to Nate on why I disagreed.
Summarized, there is Wlfy motivation in Lawpy to dismiss an unpairing read between you and True. I dont think there is a perspective slip there that spews True as Villa

 

[NateTheLesser]

And idk, if I only look at today I don't think I'd be townreading True. It's mainly that it seemed like Lawpy was setting up to push him yesterday. (Which still begs the question why Lawpy set up the push and then never actually followed through with it despite being in the hotseat himself)

 

[Zenge142]

Yeeting True feels sad. Yeeting Santy doesn't feel right either. Obviously yeeting you is not the answer. Santy feels strongly about not yeeting Khepri or Nate.
I still don't really feel like mkg is villagery but tipping the scales toward Lawpy EOD yesterday... that'd be some serious bussing.
Clem and mkg I both forget are playing lol.

Okay. With regards to your Clem vote, do you think Lawpy and Clem were bussing each other?

 

[Zenge142]

An hour + 15 before yeet close

@potentialsheltervet are you saying Clem and Lawpy in this tally are bussing each other?

 

[Truenamer]

Well I seem to be the only who thinks you're Town, everyone else is either scumreading you or just at "yeet him and see if the game ends".


OMGUS really isn't going to help you.

Sorry. This is just the most exhausting game I've played at probably the lowest real-life energy time I've ever played one. Trying to interact with Santy and Khepri in particular feels like arguing with a brick wall. It's not fun and it's leading me to losing my cool. I shouldn't be venting on thread, but I am. Part of why I stepped away last night.

 

[Santygrass]

And idk, if I only look at today I don't think I'd be townreading True. It's mainly that it seemed like Lawpy was setting up to push him yesterday. (Which still begs the question why Lawpy set up the push and then never actually followed through with it despite being in the hotseat himself)

*The choice of voting Clem when True already had a vote despite their said approach doesnt adds up
*Lawpy Didnt self-press into True

Like, you have to a really good set of mental gymnastics to ignore that and be like 'aight Im good with this slot endgaming'

And that is not taking into account the reasons they were scumread previously + their approach/flip on me after the Lawpy yeet + The nk pointing at them in my eyes

 

[Truenamer]

If we yeet True and I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time I've spent an entire day defending a wolf, but at least in this case the game would be over and I still win despite being the village idiot 😀

If you yeet me you'll have to do this again tomorrow, except they'll say that you or Zenge or PSV are obviously wolfy and clearly deserve to die.

 

[Santygrass]

True, ignore me and try to solve. Like, what is the team approach of W!Lawpy + W!Khepri/me ??? Go on through the days and why does that make sense to you? I dont feel like you have done that at all, and instead are just finding things to latch on and say 'no u'.

Why does Lawpy not self pres D2 even tho the True wagon was formed by their partner?
Why do I put Lawpy in Towncore D1 to then drop it EoD1 and then let them by PoEd??? Specially with the AM kill who was to benefit Lawpy mostly? Why do I take such heat-getting position with how I acted D2? Like moving to Zenge there just bad in general lol.

You were townreading me despite me pushing you, and the trigger to be so sure in one on me/Khepri being a wolf is tha Lawpy flipped Wolf? Why?

What is the benefit of Khepri dropping the sus on you start of D2, the moment after EoD were you could pick up so much heat, to go and signal boost Zenge correct read and start a wagon on their partner?? To then leave and abandon the cred if they were bussing? Like wtf is the team play there.

 

[Zenge142]

Get back here @potentialsheltervet

 

[Truenamer]

No pls. VCA heavily points against it.

And not against me? Literally the only time I've ever voted for a packmate, she was outed by a Seer and the game was mathematically concluded.

 

[NateTheLesser]

Just for reference, here's all 10 of Lawpy's posts during EOD yesterday. He showed up ~30 minutes to EOD when he and True were tied.

Spoiler: Lawpy EOD2

Today was not a fun day.

This is why I always sign up to sub given the unpredictability of my schedule. And will continue to do so indefinitely going forward pls

Hold pls while I try to catch up with the many posts and mentions I missed.

Alright, can I get a quick tl;dr what’s happening here pls?

Highly doubt the fluffy wagon is pure. Thinking Nanooks, Truey, Sevens, Nates, you. I think you and Nates are village.

I think you framed me given your D2 activity thus far

Active pushing = Zenges
Passive pushing = Nanooks

You’re saying this like this didn’t happen before even though I gave at least 2 examples illustrating AM’s neutral read on me even with her reservations

The game you’re thinking of with wolf!AM and wolf!me is Meats’s Reading List from 2020.

Yeah i’m feeling good with village reading Nates here

It’s certainly a basis for the case on me starting from early D2 onwards

@Truenamer if not self prez, who are you actually wolfreading?

And now it’s time for me to bow out as per usual and return to my normal permasubbing duties

Good luck village

/Lawpy out

 

[Clem J]

That seems harsh

 

[Truenamer]

I'm in a production facility until 8-8:30, at which point I need to drive home. I can post on my phone when I get a chance to step away, which is irregular. I don't have the bandwidth or time to do any isos or anything.

If you play on SDN, you know my stance about pushing/voting for wolves. I am not a wolf. I would not have played the way I have if I was a wolf.

I do not know who the wolves are. I'm sorry about that, according to Santy it is apparently entirely my job to find them or I get yeeted because... he says so? Because he's king. Tomorrow I'll be dead and another villager will be dead and he'll still be king, and he'll tell you who to vote for tomorrow. Or maybe I'm wrong, and it's not him, and he's just tunneling me.

I am open to changing my vote if someone else has a clearer idea of who's a wolf.

 

[Truenamer]

That seems harsh

Sorry. Who is the remaining wolf?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Okay. With regards to your Clem vote, do you think Lawpy and Clem were bussing each other?

I think Clem is occupying zero headspace in my skull cavern and it's making it really difficult to know how he feels or thinks or what he's done thus far.

@potentialsheltervet are you saying Clem and Lawpy in this tally are bussing each other?

Ah, that's why you quoted the tally.
I mean, not out of the realm of possibility. At that point Lawpy wasn't catching a lot of heat so could've been a distancing effort.

Get back here @potentialsheltervet

Excuse you. I was taking my dogs outside.

 

[Truenamer]

Deleted a post that was over the line. I'm not going to directly engage with Santy anymore.

 

[Zenge142]

Excuse you. I was taking my dogs outside.

Pack dynamics! Mechanically Outed!

 

[potentialsheltervet]

That seems harsh

Hello, you're here. Can you please summarize your reads?

 

[Santygrass]

Pack dynamics! Mechanically Outed!

Seems legit

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Pack dynamics! Mechanically Outed!

Clam down! They had to poop!

 

[Truenamer]

I think Clem is occupying zero headspace in my skull cavern and it's making it really difficult to know how he feels or thinks or what he's done thus far.

Ah, that's why you quoted the tally.
I mean, not out of the realm of possibility. At that point Lawpy wasn't catching a lot of heat so could've been a distancing effort.

Excuse you. I was taking my dogs outside.

Clem has made... I think no original (not sheeped) pushes, reads, or contributions? He's a nonentity in the game. I would love a read list or something from him.

 

[Clem J]

Sorry. Who is the remaining wolf?

Idk!

 

[Clem J]

Clem has made... I think no original (not sheeped) pushes, reads, or contributions? He's a nonentity in the game. I would love a read list or something from him.

I did early lol

 

[Zenge142]

Ah, that's why you quoted the tally.
I mean, not out of the realm of possibility. At that point Lawpy wasn't catching a lot of heat so could've been a distancing effort.

Do you buy that though?

In your mind here, Clem is the first vote on the Lawpy wagon and busses him into the ground?

Lawpy stays on Clem, and stays off True.

In a LaWWpy/Clam pack here; neither one moves to True, in an effort to save Lawpy in that game state?

I just don’t see it.

 

[Clem J]

Hello, you're here. Can you please summarize your reads?

A summary of Clem's reads:

Good

 

[Zenge142]

Can @Santygrass or @Khepri or even @Clem J

Talk me through Clem’s comfort and familiarity with bussing?

 

[Zenge142]

Clam down! They had to poop!

What a ****ty way to out the pack.

 

[Truenamer]

Do you buy that though?

In your mind here, Clem is the first vote on the Lawpy wagon and busses him into the ground?

Lawpy stays on Clem, and stays off True.

In a LaWWpy/Clam pack here; neither one moves to True, in an effort to save Lawpy in that game state?

I just don’t see it.

Does anyone recall if Clem was around last night at vote close?

 

[NateTheLesser]

Do you buy that though?

In your mind here, Clem is the first vote on the Lawpy wagon and busses him into the ground?

Lawpy stays on Clem, and stays off True.

In a LaWWpy/Clam pack here; neither one moves to True, in an effort to save Lawpy in that game state?

I just don’t see it.

Clem was the second vote, he sheeped Khepri/Seven. Which I think looks even better for him. He's not really playing like a wolf that was bussing his partner so he can go solo the rest of the way, IMO.

 

[Clem J]

Pot/genny/true/seven/santy all town

Zenge lock cringe

Everyone else is weh

These trs are probably still my trs, accepting self "i dont bus" meta is weh but idc

Idk who I'm gonna switch to yet

 

[Santygrass]

I think they def can do it. Not a busser type of player I think tho.
Specially with being low invested type of the game, going to bus is less likely I think

 

[Clem J]

Can @Santygrass or @Khepri or even @Clem J

Talk me through Clem’s comfort and familiarity with bussing?

Varies wildly lol

 

[NateTheLesser]

Does anyone recall if Clem was around last night at vote close?

He was around in the last hour or so, not sure offhand how much. But he asked for a vote count around when it got tied between you/Lawpy.

 

[NateTheLesser]

Need to walk my own dogs. They are howling.