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Everyone else watched, because if you look closely, it wasn't a tie.
Did someone break the tie and vote Mel out with his stolen vote?
Everyone else watched, because if you look closely, it wasn't a tie.
Because I’m not a wolf
Je peux trouver ça. Plusieurs fois. Je peux également vous dire que vous ne croyez pas vraiment ce que vous dites en fonction de qui vous votez en ce moment.No, she was criticizing me because I was hesitant to vote for Mel, yet she wasnt even voting for him herself. Show me anywhere this game ive actually defended Mel in any way. He was in my reads list as one of the OG's. She's trying to twist it into some kind of thing where me and Mel are somehow linked.
Lol so do we think wolves misread Mel's role and tried to block me 2 nights ago, and didn't kill me because they didn't know they could neutralize a protector? Now taking bets
Did someone break the tie and vote Mel out with his stolen vote?
Liked for the last part of this lolThis is a big part of why I couldnt see that block as a wolf... there have been what looks like 2 successful protections, when they could have just blocked and killed the same person and not risked that. Did they really not put that together??
Liked for the last part of this lol
I know that Jen's protection on MOOSE failed N1 because of Mel's block.. also something to consider. If it was a wolfy mechanism, wolves could basically kill who they wanted whenever they wanted, because Mel's action would block them from being protected.
Eeehhhhhh.
Do they know that?
Well I guess they do now.
I guess the question is do they go for a protector, a tracker, a confirmed mason, or a tinkerer
I kinda think they will not go for you though... so if I'm wrong, maybe you make me a rez item, eh?
Same though. Just casually dying a million times in HZD.****************************
Sorry y'all I wasn't around for night close. Playing video games instead haha
Gooooooooooooowoooooooooooooofs!
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Probs animal crossing 😉****************************
Sorry y'all I wasn't around for night close. Playing video games instead haha
Gooooooooooooowoooooooooooooofs!
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Lynch jboo
Je viens de me réveiller.
Dois-je vous rappeler mes sentiments à D1?
Si vous voulez, mais c'est le deuxième jour maintenant.
Oui, mais j'observe généralement plus le premier jour et je ne dis pas grand-chose parce que je n'aime pas ça. Nous avons eu cette discussion cinq fois maintenant, AM.
Bon alors. Je ne vous empêche pas d'observer ou de stimuler la discussion. N'hésitez pas à continuer.
c'est un peu difficile à faire maintenant![]()
....270 millions d'autres personnes le font. Cela ne vous empêchera certainement pas d'obtenir des points.
Ceci est le premier loup. Erreur de débutant.
Jésus, AM, je ne sais pas si je t'ai déjà vu aussi épicé
....Unlynch jboo
Lynch Fern
AM is very reactive to one vote for her.
....I hate lynching AM d1, because she's good to keep around when she is village. But I don't know. Is she always this reactive to votes for her?
Really? I'm not sure I remember AM rage quitting before. Spicy salt yes, actually leaving of the thread? Eh
....I feel like she's done it before. Not forever. She'll probably be back after lynch close.
And in terms of the is french speaking role a wolfy one in terms of canadianess... I agree with ferny that it is nai. Theres a lot of contempt as well as a lot of pride in Canada about french speaking and Quebec. So it depends on her exact role and that we probably will never know. So using how she plays is going to be much more helpful then this kind of talk.
Do we know for sure that AM is restricted? Is it possible AM started the french thing for fun and then the post-restrictor saw that and thought "ayyy let's restrict JBoo with that?"
okay I see I was ninja'd with a better explanation about her linguistics background.
@Animal Midwife why cubs? And @PippyPony thoughts on moose after today?
Son ignorance de mes messages menant à la lecture d'un de mes plus longs, ce qui l'a fait changer de vote pour des raisons encore inconnues. Ensuite, je cherchais les messages à lire, en sautant complètement celui où je lui demandais ses interprétations des autres joueurs/chariots.
Oh yeah that is super wierd. But besides his interaction with you, what makes you think he's a wolf? I just don't see it. He is posting insightful, new thoughts, and critically looking at things. All those scream village to me.
....L'absence de discussion sur de nouveaux contre-chariots me dérangeait, car il ne semblait pas vraiment avoir de problème avec Fern. J'aimerais toujours voir une liste complète d'interprétation à un moment donné afin que je puisse voir ce qu'il fait.
v
cubs
LAWPY
pippy
miranda
w
Mel
dolphin
Napoleon Bonapartewife
From like whenever ago
Why mel, dolphin, and AM?
Dolph dissasociated
midwife is a joke
mel hasnt contributed jack
....oh clarification
im not calling midwife a joke
the read on her is a joke
bc i dont know what she's saying
where's the typical AM comment about resistance to yet another MOOSE lynch?
I still am not convinced that lawpy isn't slightly wolfy based on fanning the flames and lack of activity. Moose skipping last night made me pause, but I don't think it clears her either because it can really benefit/hurt either alignment. I have her more neutral than before because of it though. Mayo and Barkley are solidly village because their comments sound like they are trying to contribute but also feel investigative, also just feels. Dolphin's absence has me questioning them, but nothing they've said has outwardly sounded wolfish to me. I don't know what to make of the Flushy/Pippy/Mel situation, and because of the confusion there, they sound more wolfy than where I originally had them.
Pouvez-vous voir un monde où FTF, Pippy, et Mel sont tous des loups ensemble?
Yes, that could be possible with all of them playing off each other. I didn't think Doggo sounded particularly wolfy, but they were subbed out fairly early and I think it would have been too early to tell based on their playstyle.
TERRIFYING. JUST TERRIFYING.
Pensez-vous qu'il est sain pour les loups de se jeter aussi fort sous le bus et d'avoir encore une bonne chance de vivre?
It would be a risky play. Maybe 2 are wolves with an unknowing villager playing into it?
Selon vous, quels sont les deux plus susceptibles d'être loup/loup et pourquoi?
Difficult to say, but until this situation, Pippy seemed pretty village to me. Mel I can't tell. I always have a really difficult time with him. I don't know FTF, but I think FTF and Mel are more likely to be the wolves with a villager pip in this situation.
Cela me semble encore suicidaire pour au moins un parti, étant donné la redirection massive du contre-courant + le vote anticipé hier, mais nous verrons comment les choses bougent, je suppose.
I agree. This is just what I would think IF the situation was a wolf/wolf/village situation. If it was a wolf/village/village situation, who do you think the wolf would be?
....Peu susceptible d'être Pippy à ce stade. Sinon, je ne suis pas sûr. À mon avis, ce groupe contient au plus un loup, donc pas envie de labourer là-bas sans plus de points de données sur la carte.
Also, I know this is a rabbit hole, but Mr. Sketchballs needs to be questioned more
Qui est Mr. Sketchballs?
C’mon AM. The king of sketchiness himself.
Pensez-vous qu'il est sain pour les loups de se jeter aussi fort sous le bus et d'avoir encore une bonne chance de vivre?
C'est qui?
J'attends @johnnaboo.
Are we still on who is Mr. Sketchballs? It’s Mel. Didn’t think that was hard to piece together.
D'accord, pensez-vous que FTF/Mel sont des loup/loup?
It’s certainly possible. Mel has done crazier things.
C'était FTF qui faisait tous les messages, pas Mel cependant. Mel était seulement sur FTF comme une sorte de vote de plaisanterie? Semble-t-il réaliste d'essayer de démanteler une revendication de gratification gratuite sur Mel, qui n'avait aucun vote sur lui à l'époque, et de le faire lyncher à la dernière minute, et aujourd'hui, s'ils sont tous les deux des loups?
I am not privy to machinations of Mel’s mind. I’ve seen him do some crazy ****. Do you not see my quote in his signature??
I agree it’s unlikely, but Mel’s always an egg that needs to be cracked at this point in the game.
Mais vous vous lancez dans cela en lynchant FTF, ce qui me semble étrange si vous pensez qu'ils sont loup/loup est peu probable et semble penser que l'uber loup de Mel ici.
.....Ehhhh my translator is not interpreting this well for me. @PippyPony ?
AM are you going to stay on noobnoob?
....Improbable.
@Animal Midwife thoughts on jboo?
....A commencé avec une interprétation du village sur elle, mais je suis confus quant aux positions et aux messages d'aujourd'hui. J'aimerais en savoir plus, mais elle se repose actuellement au sommet de mes neutres.
....Unlynch jenjen
Lynch jboo
pour l'instant
Rezzer abilities don't totally mean you are village. I'm pretty sure rezzer could be either affiliation
I haven’t seen a rezzer as a wolf before. But feel free to prove me wrong, haven’t played a ton recently
I mean this is definitely true, but I think it depends on whether you are village reading barks or not.
Jboo hinted this to me in pm which is NAI because a wolf would have done that too. But barks has been reading pretty village to me since she's come back. I don't know why a wolf would rez a villager so I've had jboo as confused village. Though I don't like how she's still focusing on jenjen and mel today as I think they are low likelihood of getting a wolf now.
Certainement arrivé plus d'une fois.
I'm not liking this snowy jboo interaction tbh
Que vous dit-il sur leurs affiliations?
....Thinking w/w honestly. I'm gonna look more there (hopefully) after dolphin
I don't like snowy's soft vouches
Encore un peu loup. Je sais de quoi mon débutant est capable.
@Animal Midwife thoughts on cubs? You changed your vote off him the other day. Still confident about that?
Il est neutre parce que j'ai toujours Lawpy au village et cela semble être son objectif principal.
....N'oubliez pas, vous pépites, que la résurrection est une capacité NAI avec des effets NAI à moins qu'il ne soit exactement lié à un loup mort. Snowy n'est jamais décrochée et Barks ne devrait pas être condamné pire qu'elle si nous jouons brusquement comme moi.
Pourquoi réagissez-vous au message du loup mort mais pas au mien, @Melchizedek?
....Because her stars caught my attention when I woke up.
aww are you feeling neglected and jealous?
I feel like I've already shown you a fair amount of love 😉
Also slightly concerned that @Animal Midwife seems a lot more passive this game then her usual intensity of her lynches.
Et à qui la faute?
maybe it comes with being a french wolf?
....Oh, ça devient plus sombre que ça.
@Animal Midwife , what are your feelings on Mel today? He makes me nervous this late in the game.
....Sentiments neutres de Mel.
Lynch Zepp
fully admit that I’m sheeping AM and Pippy and feel comfortable doing so. My cubs/MOOSE pack theory seems to be unlikely and I haven‘t really thought much about the game today.
Unlynch Zepp
Hmmmm...why?
Parce que.
Here you go people
Cubs
Jen
Mayo - mason
Pippy - tracker
Snowy - Item distributor - I dont understand how this can be a wolf role, unless theres some stipulation that all items must be sent to villagers which doesnt really make any sense, because if she were lynched and flipped wolf, that clears every player who ever received an item.
Moose/Wondering - MOOSE claims killing jboo. Vouches for Wondering. I know Wonderings role but I dont know what it does or means. They are most likely on the same team V/V. Moose was vouching for her to me yesterday when I started asking questions.
BUT - You cant completely rule out a W/W scenario. If wolves had up to 5, or 4 and knew they were getting a conversion, then a bold strategy would be to have MOOSE kill jboo somehow for the cred, while also claiming the night cancel (NAI, but she keeps reminding us about how village both actions are).
3M - Vote thief. Im just not convinced that this is village. How is it helpful? Pippy says she had been pushing the jboo lynch, but they could have set up the bus for Jboo's for death, knowing she had already used her ability to rez a wolf to get the village cred.
That leaves other potential wolves as
Mel
AM - french speaker
Lawper
Barks
And if Barks wasnt rezzed as a wolf, then any one of the above could now be a wolf if conversion has happened.
Est-ce que tout est basé sur les capacités et non sur le jeu, sauf pour MOOSE? Parce que je ne comprends pas pourquoi personne dans la catégorie des loups n'a de raisonnement.
That leaves other potential wolves as
Mel - getting sketchier by the day. Tried to sell my lynch to pippy a few days ago based on unconfirmable PM discussion. Dropped the Zepp lynch vote and suddenly his MOOSE/Cubs theory then left. Maybe you should ask him what happened to his theory, since youre pushing me for explanations as well?
AM - french speaker, totally annoying role, distractor, pulled off Zep lynch as soon as Mel dropped his vote - basically wanted to ensure Zep would get lynched but maybe claim having second thoughts about Zep being village, stays off the VC tracker.
Lawper - Wolf vibes the whole game. Shows up in spurts later in the day, almost like he's waiting for a plan from other wolves on the best way to act on thread
Barks - possible wolf rez
....Barks n'est encore que de la mécanique, mais je vais laisser ça glisser.
Lawpy est vague, mais je vais laisser cette diapositive.
Mel est en fait décemment étoffé et je suis choqué que vous ne l'ayez jamais voté pendant tous ces jeux malgré qu'il l'ait appelé sommaire pendant des jours.
En ce qui concerne le Zepp, est-ce la seule chose que vous avez remarquée sur mon jeu après six jours de jeu? Ai-je forcé quelqu'un à rester sur ce vote ou avez-vous, vous-même, fait des commentaires sur la façon dont Mel "manifestait en bus" et "agissait de manière sommaire", mais vous restiez à lyncher ce loup à ce moment-là, pour donner suite à ces commentaires , a choisi de voter Lawpy aujourd'hui.
Veuillez préciser ce que vous entendez par "suivi du décompte des votes".
Lynch cubs
Good luck with that.
Also, is anyone else sick of playing these games where AM just decides someone should die and gets people to follow? I put out a full color coded breakdown of reads that make perfect sense and match up. Where is your list? Nothing from you this game but cryptic messages to pippy.
....I mean AM hasn't really led any of the lynches this game.
I dont even know what Im doing anymore. Which means I need to go in the total opposite direction. And trust people I dont want to trust.
God keep our land, Glorious and Free, O Canada we stand on guard for thee
O' Caaaaaaaaanada! We stand on guuuuaaard FOOOOORRRRR THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
unlynch lawper
Lynch snowy
Edit: Forgot... *mic drop*
....C'est ce que je pensais.
Alors, quel chariot préférez-vous, mademoiselle?
Non, vous êtes seul, mon ami. Je vote pour mes interprétations de loup, pas pour suivre le vote populaire.
Wow. This coming from the person that says only two wagons should be in play this late in the game. Is your disdain for me really that worth it? Or are you just a french speaking wolf that doesnt care anymore?
....Voulez-vous dire que c'est *ylo? Parce que si vous savez exactement ce qui se passe, vous devriez parler maintenant.
@Barkley13 get out of wolfchat and vote so we know where you stand
Elle ne peut pas voter, cubs. Vous devez tous lire tous les messages de ce fil au lieu de paniquer à l'idée que je vous chevauche.
Keep talking. Keep digging.
Vous êtes hilarant étant donné la position de vote que je laisse intentionnellement ouverte à vous.
If you were concerned about Mel getting lynched as a villager you would have been on Snowy before it even came close. Even now you can easily switch to save your idol. But you wont, AM. Why not?
....À qui pensez-vous parler? Je te montre tellement de pitié et de marge de manœuvre et tu veux que je te damne une fois pour toutes, n'est-ce pas?
Yep I totally checked out today instead of reading like I said I would. AM if you're the post-restrictor I really wasn't in the mood to deal with that today after an exam.
It was not a bus.
Ask mayo if you'd like but I'd been voicing concern for snowy in my pms even before today. At the last skim I'd done Snowy was gaining votes and I was like okay that person was a good egg to crack.
Je n'ai vu aucune affirmation dérangeante comme celle-là sur le sujet, alors j'ai été surpris de voir cette théorie rédigée par Mel.
Where's @muttmanager when you can show off a real AM wolfchat rojo?
....Vous êtes toujours débile et j'ai presque fini mon cas car je vois que personne d'autre ne le fera. Monsieur "Mel est trop facile".
you do realize reads change throughout the game, yes? I already explained my position on snowy. Me and Jen had basically no PM activity until D5 when we established some trust, so i was thinking she was sketchy before that happened with the limited activity.
Je suis au courant, mais votre interprétation sur Snowy a changé en 30 minutes de "la plupart des villages en dehors des clairières" en la lynchant malgré le fait que mayo n'avait même pas encore répondu à la raison pour laquelle il votait là-bas. C'était bien avant que jenjen ne monte.
Comment se fait-il que vous n'ayez jamais dit à Barks que lorsqu'elle vous l'a demandé le jour même? Je ne comprends pas pourquoi vous gérez ce lynchage comme vous l'êtes, et vous n'avez jamais mentionné vos interprétations ajustées du village depuis que vous avez dit qu'elles étaient ruinées ce jour-là. Au lieu de cela, revenez directement à Lawpy sans aucune action sur Mel comme s'il avait répété tout ce jeu.
Never told Barks what?
You realize the mods could come on thread right now, Innocent Child me, and youd STILL want to lynch me?
L'enfant innocent est réservé aux villageois à moins qu'un bâtard ne soit brisé afin qu'ils ne le fassent pas.
Barks a demandé pourquoi vous votiez Snowy environ 30 minutes pour fermer et vous ne lui avez jamais répondu.
Because I didnt want to make it obvious who I was relying on, and in addition she could still be a wolf.
mayo n'est pourtant qu'un maçon. Ce qui, je suis presque sûr, était de notoriété publique à ce moment-là? Quel risque viendrait de dire que vous avez parlé à mayo?
....Qui avez-vous dit alors?
@cubsrule4e why haven't you voted today?
You've been here all day and it seems like you think AM is a wolf, so what gives?
Because Ive been trying to sort out Mel. I know he's telling the truth with his timeline and his targets but I still dont get the usefulness of it and why there would be two types of village protection - but when you think about it maybe it does make sense. A typical protector role blocks kills and other negative effects, right? If Jen can only protect from kills, maybe he is the other half of that.
I am hesitant on AM because I remember you or someone mentioning something about an alpha role. I feel like AM has been so aggressive and goading maybe because she cant even be lynched right now so she doesnt care. Like if she were able to get me lynched after as much as she's put into it, she would 100% be the next target but knows it wouldnt matter, then village is wasting lynch cycles.
....Il y va, abandonnant son interprétation de Mel pour le quatrième cycle consécutif.
@Animal Midwife do you think Mel is a wolf?
And I need you to answer this in the context of your current vote, not with your feely feels.
Je comprends qu'il est devenu un œuf à ce stade, mais cela me fait mal de regarder.
....Le premier, je suppose.
Maybe put 5 votes on AM, 4 on Mel and see what happens? lol
Ce qui se passe, c'est que vous obtenez un lynchage de vitesse demain pour, encore une fois, implorer la résistance de Mel.
So you would not self prez?
Beg for Mel's resistance?
Oui, et je suis sur le point de prouver mon point de vue sur vous.
Tu ne bougeras pas de moi, et j'aurai poussé trois loups, alors que tu avais trop peur de bus deux fois. Préparez vos meilleurs arguments pour demain.
....Unlynch cubs
Lynch Mel
Do you not see im not the ONLY ONE confused about Mel? Yet its all on me if he gets lynched or not?
Vous semblez être le seul à paniquer ce qui se passe s'il meurt. Presque comme si vous saviez ce qui vous arriverait s'il se retournait et que vous ne donniez pas de position concrète.
tout le reste est encore dans la mémoire récente, j'en suis sûr, donc mettre fin à mon travail ici@Barkley13 why are you watching from the sidelines?
I'm still tinfoiling that cubs might be playing the long wolf game here. Idk why but it's looking like wolf 90s cubs to me
Contingency lynch cubs
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Thats right, be a good little Lawper and do what AM tells you 🙂
3M stole my vote.
Im glad that makes you happy, convert 🙂
Do with think that Mel really thought AM was the post restrictor? This was before Lawper role revealed.Yep I totally checked out today instead of reading like I said I would. AM if you're the post-restrictor I really wasn't in the mood to deal with that today after an exam.
It was not a bus.
Ask mayo if you'd like but I'd been voicing concern for snowy in my pms even before today. At the last skim I'd done Snowy was gaining votes and I was like okay that person was a good egg to crack.
Mayo came to the vote late. Mel’s PM partner. Just something to think about for future convert discussionsI've been reluctant to jump on the Mel wagon. Not because I trust Mel, but because there appears to be absolutely no resistance to it. It feels too easy.
Because Ive been trying to sort out Mel. I know he's telling the truth with his timeline and his targets
So when Mel
Your sure do like to attack anyone who does anything to suggest your sketch, huh?
Calling me a convert is silly. I pushed jboo hard before anyone and could have easily switched to AM yesterday. I took Mel’s vote, lynched Mel early (didn’t hold my vote back like several people we should look at) and used my extra vote to break a tie that lynched another wolf. But sure I’m the convert🙄
Do with think that Mel really thought AM was the post restrictor? This was before Lawper role revealed.
Mayo came to the vote late. Mel’s PM partner. Just something to think about for future convert discussions
How did you know he was telling the truth with all timelines and targets? Because I’m almost certain he wasn’t. On N2 he claims his target was AM but I’m 99% sure it was snowy.
You have yet to even acknowledge that both AM and Mel could be wolves. You could have voted AM and gotten the same heroic result of lynching a wolf. Its not unthinkable that you stole Mel's vote knowing there was a good chance he was going to get lynched, jumped on that vote, and then when he flipped said hey look at me! I stole a wolfs vote! If thats the case, we did you even more of a favor creating a tie, to make it look even better. 🙂
You talk about me getting overly sensitive about having a vote on you. You have no votes, but sure are getting a bit defensive. 🙂
Whats wrong with thinking AM was post restrictor? Have you been post restricted? Do you know what the night result says? Something along the lines of someone rambling in french approaching you and yelling. AM is the one who has been speaking in French the whole game.
Mayo was successfully protected 2 nights ago. Why would wolves TARGET HIM TO DIE if he was a wolf when they had no idea who was being protected? That means that jen also has to be a wolf, which means there had to be 2 conversions and an OG still left. Do you think thats possible?
Because I knew he targeted MOOSE N1 because I knew Jen also targeted MOOSE N1 which is why her protection didnt work.
🙂
You’re coming off super bickery and not so helpful. Why are you even trying to start a fight with me? Because I took your vote? I’ve taken lots of peoples votes.
Of course AM and Mel can both be wolves. You want to automatically lynch AM and see what happens? That’ll tell us. You’ve tunneled so hard on AM, which you even admitted.
Im not trying to fight at all. I had enough of that yesterday. This game can be unhealthy to be honest, my BP was so high at times dealing with pages of AM's assaults, thus all the smileys today. I think it helps take the edge off 🙂 Why dont you ask AM if she has any other wolf read besides me? After all, there has to be 2 wolves left. Why am I all she cares about? Do you see how fast people are now jumping on me? And why? Because AM is playing the long game. The more you hear about Cubs being a wolf later and later in the game, the more you want to believe it.
If AM is a wolf he would know she isn’t the post restrictor...so he was either just lying that she thought she was or he really didn’t know that Lawper was the post restrictor and AM wasn’t...which means AM isn’t a wolf.
I forgot mayo was protected on that night, I admit.
Also, I’ve never been screwed by you as as wolf, so I don’t have any preconceived notions. I just want to figure out who is who.
Right, but why would he be honest about what he thought it he's a wolf trying to create misdirection? Distancing is important, especially when you flip later on. His on-thread opinion that he did or didnt think she was the post restrictor has no bearing on her affiliation.
Did I miss wonders ability? Has she said it?
No, and I know her role name, but not exactly what she does, so I have not outed anything on thread, but have been prodding her for some info. Now that I have a direct PM line to her it seems like her ability is village, but I still dont know exactly what it does, and will wait for her to reveal when she thinks best.
now with Pippy gone...
Convert is possible
Who do you think are wolves?
Pourquoi voudriez-vous tant insister sur mes lectures et ensuite me restreindre?@Barkley13 could you provide your reads?