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I would have thought that all red flags by default are wolfy red flags. How are they different?
Essentially they're flags that basically say that if VA is alive at end-game, it's bad. They're reminders. Because at end-game there will be one wolf, one villager, and one villager (assuming VA is village) that's been sketchy since day 1. Wolves don't like to kill sketchy people because it's easier to lynch them and save themselves for a night. Make sense?
 
Okay, I already went back and forth with you yesterday so I don't have much to add if you want to vote for me today too.
yeah and I already broke down your "back and forth" and there's nothing there.
Finally caught up with the thread:

Okay so @bryndiana.jones you keep saying that this is your strategy post. Of these 3 points, 2 of them are facts/ fact-like (1 and 3). Point number 2 essentially just says "well I wanted to talk to LIS but he's dead, so now I'm asking VA what he thinks". None of this is your thoughts, your opinions.
 
Unofficial D3 All you Knead Lynch Tally

Paws (1) - Cray
Snowy (3) - Trilt, capri, vmh
Cray (1) - Pippy
Mel (4) - VAsp, finn, kski, nohi
capri (2) - mel, stella
skye (1) - AM
VAsp (2) - KL, Skye
bryndy (1) - cdo

Missing: @StayingPositive2017, @MixedAnimals77, @allieh8607, @SnowshoeDog143, @bryndiana.jones, @fromthebox

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Deadline 12am EST (~4.5 hours)

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Essentially they're flags that basically say that if VA is alive at end-game, it's bad. They're reminders. Because at end-game there will be one wolf, one villager, and one villager (assuming VA is village) that's been sketchy since day 1. Wolves don't like to kill sketchy people because it's easier to lynch them and save themselves for a night. Make sense?
Um what?
 
I’m confused what you’re confused about?
I'm confused about:
1) why you have such a weirdly specific scenario there
2) why you're "suspicious" of someone you say in that post you think is just a sketchy villager
3) if you think he is not a sketchy villager, but is in fact wolfy, why you would wait to lynch someone who you think is wolfy
4) why "flags" for someone are contingent upon them reaching end game

Do you want me to go on?
 
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Quick response on my break. Will comment more later on the day after work. I'm looking at skye, mixy, and mel so far today. But I haven't iso'd many people. @Trilt I am always a hedger. You should know that's why I get lynched every single game. And yes, I would go to a coffee shop just to ww when I'm vanilla village 😛
Perhaps something to work on, yanno. 😉

Just waiting for an argument from ya.
 
Sketch points to all of the following:
FTB has is still not contributing all that much substance, but has made some appearances to make little comments. She has not been too helpful overall which makes me think that maybe she is taking a backseat so as to not post with any inconsistencies or cannot come up with much about the other players (I mean no offense).

VA is a bit of an oddball, but is somewhat humorous at times. Thus far he/she has only contributed opinions on KL and Mel, and I don’t understand why if you think KL is so certain a wolf, why you wouldn’t just lynch them?

Skye you have yet to post any of your own thoughts today

Stella said she would be more active today, but has yet to really say all that much and this is D3

Killerleaf has not posted all that much content, but I am willing to vote elsewhere because others seem more sketchy to me.
 
Cray and I have briefly chatted in PMs enough for me to have cooled down over her earlier posts in response to mine. That's not to say I'm completely forgetting about her but for now there are people I find sketchier than her.

Would really like to hear more from @Animal Midwife and @fromthebox .
I'm used to AM being a lot more aggressive on the game thread, as several other people have pointed out. Was willing to give her a pass during D1, maybe even D2 but it is now D3 and she's voted Skye both today and yesterday with minimal pressure. I'm curious who besides Skye she think may be a wolf?
FTB pops in periodically with either fluff posts or things that aren't terribly helpful or that don't contribute much...can we get some player analysis or anything from you please?
My vote is most likely going towards one of those two.
 
my thoughts about crayons is that she is consistent with past impressions of her vilkage play-- lots of comments at weird hours. so I am leaning she is villager.

Mel seems to act the same no matter which side he is on...loud, pushy, arrogant, and sometimes with off the wall references. just not sure about him. I can see him as wolf and as villager.

AM has been quieter than usual. others have said this may be because she is wolfy; I am wondering if maybe just weekend busy? maybe keep an eye in future.
 
Can I help address any of my wolfy points I've accumulated from today?

In addition to everything else.
I really feel like something is up with AM she's not being her super tunnel like self so it definitely seems weird and will be watching closely if I live. Jboo seems like wolf again, she made very silly mistakes when she was wolf last game and seems to be like that again. I don't like that Lawper came in and did all this "hi" stuff got a few lynch votes for themselves and left, it feels like greeney from last game she was wolf, so probably won't move my vote from here unless I have to for self-preservation. I didn't like bryndiana's response to LIS on her sketch list, you can determine some people you find sketchy even if you're not voting for them. Not sure how I feel about the hydra but will watch over the next few days. VA, killerleaf, and sky are all posting non helpful fluff, unsure if noobness, post restrictions, etc. so will keep on watch list.

So mixy had a lot of "insightful" but not really analysis D1 and this post where she pretty much says everyone is sketchy. I don't find many original thoughts from her and so she is one of my top wolf picks.

The casual mention of a D1 spreadsheet - I know many of you keep notes and such, but it just feels too much like "look what a helpful villager I am." I've seen a wolf give us vote tally lists. When you have something to give village, do it, fine. But the and some other stuff isn't ringing true for me. Not just tunneling, I'm just calling them as I read the posts.

Hmm I think this is a good thought. cdo's long list D1 and false bandwagon vote could be wolfy, but I'm actually getting mostly village vibes from her posts (and yes I finally read them ya'll)

Perhaps something to work on, yanno. 😉

Just waiting for an argument from ya.

Sorry got off work and then had to find a place in my house with wifi so I could read more. Mel I have points for because AM felt like he was acting similar to games he's wolfed in, vmh made a comment about how he tries to feel out who is most sketch and start a vote against them as a wolf (which he has seemed to do by switching his votes to someone with a reasoning they typically get lynched for or someone who is already leading). I don't think him and mixy are both wolves because of something mixy said yesterday where she quoted mel a lot which I don't think a noob wolf would do. But I was totally wrong about mel/dy interaction last time mel was a wolf, so not much to that. hmmm

lynch mel
 
my thoughts about crayons is that she is consistent with past impressions of her vilkage play-- lots of comments at weird hours. so I am leaning she is villager.
She did the same thing as a wolf. Wolves generally attempt to keep up their village style if it’s something that a big change from it would be noticed. Because it would be noticed. I don’t think that Crayola posting lots of comments and posting at weird hours has anything to do with her affiliation since when she was a wolf she did the same thing.
 
Unlynch Capri
Lynch Snowy


For previously stated reasons + preservation. Y'all are making weak arguments for my lynch, reevaluate if you are just lynching me on feels or if you have some concrete sketchiness.
 
ski--great point. just when I think I have something figured out I realize I dont!
 
Sketch points to all of the following:
FTB has is still not contributing all that much substance, but has made some appearances to make little comments. She has not been too helpful overall which makes me think that maybe she is taking a backseat so as to not post with any inconsistencies or cannot come up with much about the other players (I mean no offense).

VA is a bit of an oddball, but is somewhat humorous at times. Thus far he/she has only contributed opinions on KL and Mel, and I don’t understand why if you think KL is so certain a wolf, why you wouldn’t just lynch them?

Skye you have yet to post any of your own thoughts today

Stella said she would be more active today, but has yet to really say all that much and this is D3

Killerleaf has not posted all that much content, but I am willing to vote elsewhere because others seem more sketchy to me.
That's mainly because the people I've agreed with others on being sketch haven't responded at all. I asked Stella to explain his/her logic and got nothing.
 
Mel I have points for because AM felt like he was acting similar to games he's wolfed in
Can you find this? Sorry, I quickly iso'd AM and don't see it but could just be missing.
vmh made a comment about how he tries to feel out who is most sketch and start a vote against them as a wolf
...is this not what villagers do? :bored:
 
100% hedge
I said this because the last speed game I played with her, I had her as village right away when she was a wolf. I just am not confident about reading her correctly. Now I have her at a village lean because she is so obsessed with mel and tunneling is usually more common as village. But same thing, I don't want what happened last game where I put her in village when she's been a wolf all along.

Throwaway, then no further pushing.

Yeah probably should have pushed allie more, but her quote about lurking to not be lynched for something dumb made me feel bad for her because she has gotten a lot of flak and killed for one dumb D1 post in the last few games I've played with her. She sounded like a frusturated villager. The one wolfy thing I have for her at the moment is some post where she was trying to make the wolfy excuse of "I'd rather be lynched for ____ instead of what I am being lynched for"

This caught my eye that day because it's... not necessarily the type of thing I think of a vanilla Snowy doing. Could be wrong, sure, but it pinged a little note in my head to consider her as wolf or PR. I'm suspicious that this game is very vanilla (as explained above), so it nudges a bit wolfy now that I'm tunneling. 😛

Unlike the rest of the Dubz family, I way more prefer to village so it actually be more likely I'd do this as village then wolf but wifom to you I realize.

Can you explain your nohika village lean? And precisely what pushed you to Mixy?

Already explained mixy. For nohika: I feel like a villager is more likely to make a joke vote or try to make a strategy vote D1 then just a vote because they are annoyed by someone. Retalitory voting mostly makes me think village-y. But AM's comment about nohika usually getting angrier/annoyed as village being lynched is interesting.

Pocket hedge?

I don't even know what the hedge you saw in this post was.

Hedge and a bandwagon vote...

Or this. And lawper wasn't a bandwagon when I lynched them.



I would be okay with a sky lynch, a capri lynch, or a snowy lynch.

Lynch snowy for now since of the three I think they have given the least satisfactory response to lynch pressure in terms of addressing issues that have been brought up with her play.

Also, for reference, I do want to hear more from snowy about most of what was already brought up about Snowy's play, but I also want to hear more about:

The fact that most of your reads above are related to how much you like the person or how much you agree with them rather than your interpretation of their play style thus far

And the fact that your defense for being semi-asked about it was that you're just lazy and you'll get to reading better later

bryndy is the only one I said I liked on this list (but I mean I like most everyone else don't worry 😉). KL and VA I decided are more nooby then wolfy sounding. Pippy seems village to me which scares me because usually when she sounds like that she pocket wolfs me. Trilt I've got as neutral, but I'm having a hard time seeing her kill LIS off N1 especially when he thought she was likely village. Iso'ing AM's posts, I actually think she sounds normal and I'm not sure what I was sketched out about the other day. Allie is still in neutral territory. ftb and stella seem village but not much to go off. In general maybe I have to many people with village reads for a D3 analysis.
 
Also, Sky has a lot of posts that look like they are trying to sound like analysis, but are actually just stating facts. This makes them one of my top sketchy people, but I lynched lawper for the same thing yesterday and they were village, so might just be a noob thing?
 
Would really like to hear more from @Animal Midwife and @fromthebox .
I'm used to AM being a lot more aggressive on the game thread, as several other people have pointed out. Was willing to give her a pass during D1, maybe even D2 but it is now D3 and she's voted Skye both today and yesterday with minimal pressure. I'm curious who besides Skye she think may be a wolf?
FTB pops in periodically with either fluff posts or things that aren't terribly helpful or that don't contribute much...can we get some player analysis or anything from you please?
My vote is most likely going towards one of those two.

I'm getting a dodgey vibe from Skye and it's really bothering me. I'd also like to hear more from FTB, Aspargaus, and nokia.
 
Can you find this? Sorry, I quickly iso'd AM and don't see it but could just be missing.

...is this not what villagers do? :bored:

Having wolfed with you in the last game I know you like to spend some time finding other players who are suspicious enough for you to draw up lynches on later in the game when you or another wolf are under fire. This post feels a little bit too much like suspicion farming and I'm keeping my eye on you

This is what I meant... It seems like he's been doing a lot of this this game.

It scares me when you say stuff like this Mel.

It feels similar to what you said in TLM and MI game.

And these are the AM quotes I remembered.

Maybe I'm just bitter and tunnelling because mel called something I said a blatant wolf tell and voted me but then changed his vote when no one else was voting me yesterday, which is like a repeat of what he did in the MI game.
 
Unlynch Capri
Lynch Snowy


For previously stated reasons + preservation. Y'all are making weak arguments for my lynch, reevaluate if you are just lynching me on feels or if you have some concrete sketchiness.

The thing is whenever it's you being lynched, all the reasons are "weak" and when it's someone you want to lynch your reasons are always "strong and reasonable"...🙄🙄🙄
 
The thing is whenever it's you being lynched, all the reasons are "weak" and when it's someone you want to lynch your reasons are always "strong and reasonable"...🙄🙄🙄
Except for your and Meats point that I cultivate mislynches as a wolf, I haven't heard any good case. And here's the thing thats also what wolf-hunting looks like.
 
And these are the AM quotes I remembered.

Maybe I'm just bitter and tunnelling because mel called something I said a blatant wolf tell and voted me but then changed his vote when no one else was voting me yesterday, which is like a repeat of what he did in the MI game.

I was half-joking when I said that. Mel seems pretty normal to me otherwise in PMs.
 
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OK trying to catch up on thread.
Mel has mentioned previously that he has a background theory he is working on in PM. Have him at village lean currently. It would seem he is working through that rather than just waffling.
 
Except for your and Meats point that I cultivate mislynches as a wolf, I haven't heard any good case. And here's the thing thats also what wolf-hunting looks like.

Sigh. Okay I went back to point out you jumping from one easy vote everyday to another and found you were the first person to point out (or at least lynch) bryndy for unoriginal thoughts. Though I think bryndy is more neutral-village leaning right now, I think that was a good point people were lynching her for. And if AM and trilt have you village maybe I'm just tunnelling.

unlynch mel
lynch mixy
 
ugh. Something feels off though. There's a good chance I'll come back to mel. (look at me hedging trilt - would you rather have me tunnel him?)
 
Sigh. Okay I went back to point out you jumping from one easy vote everyday to another and found you were the first person to point out (or at least lynch) bryndy for unoriginal thoughts. Though I think bryndy is more neutral-village leaning right now, I think that was a good point people were lynching her for. And if AM and trilt have you village maybe I'm just tunnelling.

unlynch mel
lynch mixy
You do realize you just put yourself tied for first now, right?
 
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