WWhere There's a WWhisk, There's a WWay! - Game Thread

[Melchizedek]

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Just because the logic makes sense to me doesn’t mean I’m totally convinced she’s not bussing a fellow wolf to get village cred.

Or you could be bussing Snowy using Trilt's logic as a cover.

Edit: deleted a quote from trilt that got formatted in by accident.

 

[Trilt]

Term "bussing" is being thrown around an awful lot for someone we don't know is a wolf or not...

 

[Melchizedek]

Term "bussing" is being thrown around an awful lot for someone we don't know is a wolf or not...

Me discussing bussing is a counterargument for Capri saying that you're bussing Snowy. I don't actually think that Capri is bussing snowy.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Um, what are the very silly mistakes from jboo that make you think she's a wolf again this game, exactly?

Last game jboo made a huge slip up using the if I were a wolf I would do X action logic which we both saw in MI basically doesn't fly. This game early on she said something along the lines of discounting D1 voting which she should know D1 voting is important, but I think got sorted out between her and Pippy if I remember right so she wasn't high on my radar list, but someone to watch who I felt was wolfy.

 

[capri1722]

Tbh when I say I have no opinion of someone I just mean they haven’t thrown up any red flags that stick in my mind. I was a lil lazy writing that list so I went solely based on memory without going back and looking at the thread. Figured I would have more time to look when I’m not being directly questioned. I’m still voting who I think is most wolfy, but I can be convinced to switch to KL or Stella, or any inactives (though I think the latter is pointless because mod smiting). If that gets me lynched, so be it. There’s always next game.

 

[killerleaf]

good afternoon, all. have had a lovely weekend, where I got to sleep extremely late, and just rest. Hence, not the very high post count.

FYI--I am a she, still fighting the effects of chemo brain, this is only the 3rd game I have played (played in the noob Circus and the noob game just finished), and probably only the 6th day total I have been alive in said games. I am amazed at the detail that everyone pulls out of the early day discussions. I read ya'lls reads, and go back, and wonder how you infer what you do. I am thinking I just don't have the talent to do that. So yes, it appears that I bandwagon some (but I think that I was the first to put a lynch vote on lawper on D1)..but that is because, as I pointed out earlier, I try to take cues from the veteran players. Because I don't feel smart enough to come up with the detailed reads on my on. And I don't type fast enough. 🙂

With that said:

VA (is that vicious asparagus??) has made me raise an eyebrow, simply because of the "vote for myself, sound pissed off, peace out" post they made last night. It reminds me of MJ (I think) who would go off on a rant, vote for himself, everybody would back off, and he would turn out to be a wolf. or chaos. It makes me wonder if VA is pulling the same strategy.

###lynch VA####

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm basically certain killer is a wolf, but they aren't pack leader, so there's no point in lynching just yet. Better to pursue lynches that might disrupt pack tactics or yield more information.

What do you mean by pack leader?

 

[Crayola227]

good afternoon, all. have had a lovely weekend, where I got to sleep extremely late, and just rest. Hence, not the very high post count.

FYI--I am a she, still fighting the effects of chemo brain, this is only the 3rd game I have played (played in the noob Circus and the noob game just finished), and probably only the 6th day total I have been alive in said games. I am amazed at the detail that everyone pulls out of the early day discussions. I read ya'lls reads, and go back, and wonder how you infer what you do. I am thinking I just don't have the talent to do that. So yes, it appears that I bandwagon some (but I think that I was the first to put a lynch vote on lawper on D1)..but that is because, as I pointed out earlier, I try to take cues from the veteran players. Because I don't feel smart enough to come up with the detailed reads on my on. And I don't type fast enough. 🙂

With that said:

VA (is that vicious asparagus??) has made me raise an eyebrow, simply because of the "vote for myself, sound pissed off, peace out" post they made last night. It reminds me of MJ (I think) who would go off on a rant, vote for himself, everybody would back off, and he would turn out to be a wolf. or chaos. It makes me wonder if VA is pulling the same strategy.

###lynch VA####

THIS was the best most insightful post on why lynch VA. The bizarre posts never really do it for me as far as establishing wolfiness. Never seen a wolf be that bizarre on purpose. Will probably happen at some point but so far not so much.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Catch up on what went down at lynch after I went to bed:

###lynch lawpy####
cause I still find his way of shortening names annoying.

So you are going to vote to lynch someone who annoys you, and not someone who you think may be a wolf? Not too strong of a reason there....

D1 I voted for lawp because it essentially means nothing for everyone. It's a free for all kind of day. But you're continuing that trend onto D2, which is pointless.

###lynch killerleaf####

Now that I'm awake I have to agree with brynd on the fact it's D2 get with it. I don't like it. I'd like to hear alot more from you today @killerleaf

These two posts actually make me lean you more village because it's such a thing to immediately assume that everyone on your lynch has to be a wolf when you're still getting the feel for playing

Yeah. I have no problems with theories, just think it's a good idea to hold off on taking them as fact until we at least get some information from a wolf lynch or something similar

Lynch bryndiana.jones
If I die, I suggest village to look into Mel, killer (seriously, killer's vote is bandwagoning and others have pointed out their low quality posts), bryny, mixy, cray and nokia, as they are possible wolves.

The more Lawper talks the more I get the village vibe, but the issue was that they did not talk about any strategy for so long today...
Edit: misspelled word

I see how this is village and the more Lawper quit giving commentary and actually started giving real substance I had left. I agree with brynd why lawper ended up getting lynched. Having been on, I probably would've switched my lynch.

Too much mirroring with other players. I didn't like that you immediately latched onto other players' reasoning to the point of even willing to vote quickly. I feel like by doing so, you're trying to get village clearance from them.

And it does not help village at all. There are multiple people who have been under fire today for multiple reasons and killerleaf is not even bothering to address any of that. I may swing my vote to killerleaf before close
For D1 analysis I think that's fair, I don't think I would agree with it about today, but that's okay.

You know what, screw it. killer is blatantly bandwagoning, and of all the reasons I saw in votes on me, killer's reasons are the worst thing I have read.
unlynch bryndiana.jones
lynch killerleaf

This feels like village agreeing with now known village to me and village rage for getting lynched.

I have deep respect for the veterans and respect their opinions. especially since they can come up with all of their reads on D2,. I am still trying to go back and forth to read and reread their thoughts--and trying to put it all together. and then trying to draft a response that won't get "those aren't original thoughts"...

and maybe I just respect those who have already voted for Lawler, and feel that they are on the right track?

please reread. I said I have read and reread...and have thought deeply.

I don't like any of this. None of it is helpful or strategy. Sounds like a wolf trying to give the runaround.

I will admit I see your point here.

Unlynch Lawpy
Lynch Stella
I know it won’t make much of a difference at this point, but Lawpy does kinda strike me as village now that you mention it. Stella I just don’t like her play style. Plus she hasn’t been on thread all day.

I get the unlynching Lawper, but I don't like the switch to Stella especially inactivity=mod kill.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Unlynch Lawper
Lynch Finn

sketch for early post/vote
sketch for extreme defensiveness over pos/I's pressure D1
Neither of these were enough of a reason for a vote, but then see response to VMH to what pushed Finn into lynch territory.
If Finn flips wolf I'm coming after you for chainsaw defense just FYI

There's this yesterday not long before lynch close....

A little bit of @Stella Mudd in my life
A little bit of @fromthebox by my side
A little bit of @cdoconn is all I need
A lot of Crayola is what I see
A little bit of @Skyerien in the sun
A little bit of @killerleaf all night long
A little bit of @finnickthedog here I am
A little bit of you makes me your man
People I/others want to hear from
Lynch Capri btw

Nope, because I've spent the past two days trying to get you to participate and show some effort via pressure in PM and on thread, the best you've given me is super-shallow reads. I was willing to overlook that as noob not being able to dig deep, but now the easy sheeping Trilt's logic makes me think you're a wolf.
@SkiOtter here's the dance
There's also a background theory I'm working on.

Then there's this...you just seemed so gungho on Finn I'm surprised you switched today and seems a bit weird. I'd like to hear your background theory on why Capri though.

 

[PippyPony]

I don't actually think that Capri is bussing snowy.

Why not?

For people who aren't aware of this because it was behind the scenes: she bussed 2 wolves last game of her own volition. So, if the thinking is that the noob wolves would not bus fellow wolves, then I can tell you that is false.

I haven't gotten much of any kind of read on Snowy, and am historically pretty terrible at reading her. Side-eyeing capri sun a bit for jumping immediately on others' logic and then posting a list of reads that pretty much entirely netted to "neutral on everyone".

But basically, don't fool yourselves into thinking the noobs from the noob game would not bus. There is precedent.

 

[Melchizedek]

There's this yesterday not long before lynch close....



Then there's this...you just seemed so gungho on Finn I'm surprised you switched today and seems a bit weird. I'd like to hear your background theory on why Capri though.

People that have crossed my threshold into lynch territory:
Finn
Snowy
Egg
Capri

Of these four I had contributions to make about Capri today so I shared those on thread. I haven't let up on finn. I purposely pulled Finn back onto the thread. No one else sees that this whole blatant refusal to wolf hunt and reduction in post volume/significant content is wolf-Finn meta. Snowy and Egg are already being investigated by Trilt and others.

ETA: No. Background theory stays in the background. If it was productive to share it on thread, I already would have.

Why not?

For people who aren't aware of this because it was behind the scenes: she bussed 2 wolves last game of her own volition. So, if the thinking is that the noob wolves would not bus fellow wolves, then I can tell you that is false.

I haven't gotten much of any kind of read on Snowy, and am historically pretty terrible at reading her. Side-eyeing capri sun a bit for jumping immediately on others' logic and then posting a list of reads that pretty much entirely netted to "neutral on everyone".

But basically, don't fool yourselves into thinking the noobs from the noob game would not bus. There is precedent.

I don't think/know if Capri is bussing Snowy because I don't know if Snowy is a wolf. If Snowy flips wolf, I'd brook the theory of bussing.

 

[finnickthedog]

No one else sees that this whole blatant refusal to wolf hunt and reduction in post volume/significant content is wolf-Finn meta.

I know it's hard to consider being wrong, but maybe because no one else sees it, because it isn't the case.

If I had a dime for every time someone point out my low post volume and lack of significant content (especially early game) and used it as a reason to throw suspicion on me, I might be able to pay my tuition.

So the way I see it you're either a villager who is misinterpreting things because you want to justify your own feels or you're a wolf who is intentionally running with misinterpretations in hopes that people follow you to a mislynch.

Despite your claims to contrary, you really did let up on me today so I also find the fact that you acted very certain of me yesterday but hopped over to capri to just be more sketch points.

 

[Melchizedek]

Despite your claims to contrary, you really did let up on me today so I also find the fact that you acted very certain of me yesterday but hopped over to capri to just be more sketch points.

Your attempts to discredit me here would go better if I hadn't called you out literally my second post of the day.

 

[finnickthedog]

Your attempts to discredit me here would go better if I hadn't called you out literally my second post of the day.

Maybe we can call this another difference of interpretation deal, but as far as I'm concerned "let up" means you dialed it back as compared to yesterday. Given that all you did was tag my name among several other people and said nothing else about me until someone questioned you about it, I'm gonna stand by my opinion you let up today.

 

[Melchizedek]

Maybe we can call this another difference of interpretation deal, but as far as I'm concerned "let up" means you dialed it back as compared to yesterday. Given that all you did was tag my name among several other people and said nothing else about me until someone questioned you about it, I'm gonna stand by my opinion you let up today.

I tagged you in hopes of you coming back and being useful to village. Lo and behold you beetlejuiced, made another dodge vote, and parroted theory about Egg's sketchiness. The exact opposite of what I was looking for. The rest of my posts were me running down a lead on Capri.

 

[SkiOtter]

If trilt and mel are wrong about capri & snowy that might be wolfy. If they are right they might be village.

Or they could be bussing the hell out of them. (Less likely for them to kill half their pack though but I’ve seen stranger things happen)

 

[Trilt]

If trilt and mel are wrong about capri & snowy that might be wolfy. If they are right they might be village.

This is a nothing statement.

 

[finnickthedog]

I tagged you in hopes of you coming back and being useful to village. Lo and behold you beetlejuiced, made another dodge vote, and parroted theory about Egg's sketchiness. The exact opposite of what I was looking for. The rest of my posts were me running down a lead on Capri.

It's really not relevant why you tagged me. The fact that all you did was tag me appears as letting up to an extent. From my perspective of course.

Also, I always thought parroting was repeating what other people said. Is it still parroting if I'm repeating my own thoughts?

 

[Karabiner13]

D3 All you Knead Lynch Tally

Paws (1) - Cray
Snowy (3) - Trilt, capri, vmh
Cray (1) - Pippy
Mel (3) - VAsp, finn, kski
capri (2) - mel, stella
skye (1) - AM
VAsp (1) - KL

😏 A Tie! 😏

Missing: @StayingPositive2017, @MixedAnimals77, @allieh8607, @SnowshoeDog143, @Skyerien, @bryndiana.jones, @nohika, @cdoconn, @fromthebox

12/21

Deadline 12am EST (~6 hours)

 

[PippyPony]

The rest of my posts were me running down a lead on Capri.

Sorry, I may have missed this. What lead are you running down? Like, do you have actual info?

 

[PippyPony]

ETA: No. Background theory stays in the background. If it was productive to share it on thread, I already would have.

Ok but y tho.

If it's a theory, then that is just concealing your opinion for the hell of it (or because you don't actually have one and are bull****ting right now).

If it's info, then different story, but in that case then damage has kind of already been done by you making inferences about it.

 

[capri1722]

So you will still vote who you think is most wolfy OR pointless

No, I said that I think voting for someone who isn't very active, or someone who's missing, is pointless given the mod smiting/modkill rules in effect, not that any particular player is pointless. And despite your and KL's lack of post volume, I still find both of you sketchy.

 

[Skyerien]

good afternoon, all. have had a lovely weekend, where I got to sleep extremely late, and just rest. Hence, not the very high post count.

FYI--I am a she, still fighting the effects of chemo brain, this is only the 3rd game I have played (played in the noob Circus and the noob game just finished), and probably only the 6th day total I have been alive in said games. I am amazed at the detail that everyone pulls out of the early day discussions. I read ya'lls reads, and go back, and wonder how you infer what you do. I am thinking I just don't have the talent to do that. So yes, it appears that I bandwagon some (but I think that I was the first to put a lynch vote on lawper on D1)..but that is because, as I pointed out earlier, I try to take cues from the veteran players. Because I don't feel smart enough to come up with the detailed reads on my on. And I don't type fast enough. 🙂

With that said:

VA (is that vicious asparagus??) has made me raise an eyebrow, simply because of the "vote for myself, sound pissed off, peace out" post they made last night. It reminds me of MJ (I think) who would go off on a rant, vote for himself, everybody would back off, and he would turn out to be a wolf. or chaos. It makes me wonder if VA is pulling the same strategy.

###lynch VA####

As much as I didn't like your gameplay yesterday, you've made a good point. Sorry you're going through a rough time IRL.

Others thoughts on VA?

 

[Skyerien]

No, I said that I think voting for someone who isn't very active, or someone who's missing, is pointless given the mod smiting/modkill rules in effect, not that any particular player is pointless. And despite your and KL's lack of post volume, I still find both of you sketchy.

Capri has a good point Stella. Seems sketch with skirting your votes, which makes me think you're being extra cautious.

 

[nohika]

I'm comfortable with lynch CheezyD, based on a skim of the past two pages.

You guys post way too much. Gonna go re-read later once my dogs are home.

 

[Trilt]

I'm comfortable with lynch CheezyD, based on a skim of the past two pages.

You guys post way too much. Gonna go re-read later once my dogs are home.

Oh no we post two pages in most of a day cycle. So much. So hard to keep up.

Give me a break. This is hardly high volume.

 

[nohika]

Oh no we post two pages in most of a day cycle. So much. So hard to keep up.

Give me a break. This is hardly high volume.

It's not the page count as much as it is Cray's info dump of info dumps that I haven't had a chance to sort through.

Also, I'm quite willing to give you a break if you request one. And hey, it's high volume for me. A lot of times I just skip around the thread. 😀

 

[PippyPony]

It's not the page count as much as it is Cray's info dump of info dumps that I haven't had a chance to sort through.

Just ignore most of them. All the cool kids are doing it!

 

[PippyPony]

This is a nothing statement.

And this is a little harsh.

 

[Trilt]

And this is a little harsh.

C'mon.

If people lead lynches on wolves, they might be village!

If they push them on villagers, they might be wolves!

Oookiiiiieeee.

 

[PippyPony]

C'mon.

If people lead lynches on wolves, they might be village!

If they push them on villagers, they might be wolves!

Oookiiiiieeee.

That's not exactly how I read it, and even if it said that, maybe the snark level is why some of the noobs are suddenly feeling like they suck.

(Clearly I'm still pro-snark, I'm just saying that I thought the wording there was a little bitchy).

 

[killerleaf]

is it just me, or has trilit seemed more aggressive/snarky than usual?

 

[bryndiana.jones]

@killerleaf thank you for your thoughts on VA. Still have yet to hear from FTB, and even yesterday she did not add too much to the discussion.

Strongest feelz so far and village.

Does this mean that you have strong feelings I am village?

 

[Trilt]

That's not exactly how I read it, and even if it said that, maybe the snark level is why some of the noobs are suddenly feeling like they suck.

(Clearly I'm still pro-snark, I'm just saying that I thought the wording there was a little bitchy).

I don't think anyone sucks. I just don't like people saying nothing statements that get counted as strategy. I would have been up Lawper's butt last night for the same thing if I hadn't been dead to the world.

 

[Trilt]

is it just me, or has trilit seemed more aggressive/snarky than usual?

Every game.

 

[kaydubs]

D3 All you Knead Lynch Tally

Paws (1) - Cray
Snowy (3) - Trilt, capri, vmh
Cray (1) - Pippy
Mel (4) - VAsp, finn, kski, nohi
capri (2) - mel, stella
skye (1) - AM
VAsp (1) - KL

Missing: @StayingPositive2017, @MixedAnimals77, @allieh8607, @SnowshoeDog143, @Skyerien, @bryndiana.jones, @cdoconn, @fromthebox

13/21

Deadline 12am EST (~5 hours)

 

[PippyPony]

Would be nice if people voted

Edit: I forgot the lynch deadline is so freaking late lol

 

[capri1722]

Does this mean that you have strong feelings I am village?

Indeed. I don't feel super confident in any of my reads of the vets but I can get a better read for noobs who played in WWinter. You seem like you're playing very much like how you played last game. So far.

 

[Skyerien]

Would like to hear more from VA and Stella, but for now

###lynch VA###

 

[Karabiner13]

Edit: I forgot the lynch deadline is so freaking late lol

I'm closing tomorrow night so tomorrow will be a couple hours earlier 🙂

 

[cdo96]

Finally caught up with the thread:

See above, found the quote for you.

So far my thoughts for this morning
1. Lawper has been contributing more, which seems like how they played in the noob game (unless being tied for next death woke them up a bit).
2. If I lived through the night my plan was to ask LIS why he voted vmh, since he repeatedly did not answer when I asked him (very hypocritical since the whole reason he went after me was my reasoning behind my lynch votes). Since he's dead, I would like to call out @VicariousAsparagus, and ask if he or she has any thoughts at this point about who he or she thinks is sketchy. My vote may be VA today if they are not willing to share anything of substance (though they are entertaining).
3. It also appears @fromthebox was not modkilled, so where are you?

Okay so @bryndiana.jones you keep saying that this is your strategy post. Of these 3 points, 2 of them are facts/ fact-like (1 and 3). Point number 2 essentially just says "well I wanted to talk to LIS but he's dead, so now I'm asking VA what he thinks". None of this is your thoughts, your opinions.

 

[cdo96]

Help. Who da heck is eggy?

uhh hi. I'm Egg/ eggy. It's a dumb nickname that's also an inside joke from a bunch of people from a social thread. aaand it stuck.

Well, CDO has a 2-page synopsis only 1 day in, which I cannot fathom. I just don't see enough data to even fill 1 page.

Inactivity is frowned upon and associated with wolfing.

The players come in varying degrees of prickly, ranging from freshly-shampooed Malamut to caltrop-covered cactus.

That's about all I've got.

No posting restriction, just Real Life(TM)

Once again, I really don't like this. It sends off too many red flags and is distracting.

 

[cdo96]

Finally caught up with the thread:

Okay so @bryndiana.jones you keep saying that this is your strategy post. Of these 3 points, 2 of them are facts/ fact-like (1 and 3). Point number 2 essentially just says "well I wanted to talk to LIS but he's dead, so now I'm asking VA what he thinks". None of this is your thoughts, your opinions.

Bryndiana- agreed with Pippy’s argument against Mixed Animals (tin foil hat discussion). 19th Lynch (VMH) in regards to Allieh’s comment. “Contributed” to conversation by backpacking on ski’s comments. 28th Lynch (Lawper) because Lawper is quiet. Getting very defensive when questioned.

okay and then with this I want to

lynch brindy

While a Mel lynch would be okay with me, this is what I'm focused on now. Imo this is very characteristic of a noob wolf.

 

[Trilt]

uhh hi. I'm Egg/ eggy. It's a dumb nickname that's also an inside joke from a bunch of people from a social thread. aaand it stuck.

Once again, I really don't like this. It sends off too many red flags and is distracting.

Does it set off wolfy flags for you?

 

[cdo96]

Does it set off wolfy flags for you?

wolfy red flags? no. Just flags that set of alarms that ding and ring and light up to let you know that something isn't okay with this scenario

 

[Melchizedek]

I'm comfortable with lynch CheezyD, based on a skim of the past two pages.

You guys post way too much. Gonna go re-read later once my dogs are home.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on why I should be lynched.
As far as I can tell Finn and Ski are tunnelling on me, VA is confused noob. If someone has anything significant for why I should be lynched please let me know. Otherwise I suggest you look at the people I pointed out because those actually have some solid reasons.

 

[capri1722]

wolfy red flags? no. Just flags that set of alarms that ding and ring and light up to let you know that something isn't okay with this scenario

I would have thought that all red flags by default are wolfy red flags. How are they different?

 

[fromthebox]

***** off topic*****
SKOL!!!
If anyone is wondering what FTB is doing.


Sent from my iPhone using SDN mobile

 

[bryndiana.jones]

@Stella Mudd was a bit quiet in the last game as well, but today she has mostly just offered "I don't like this logic that Capri uses", but do you have anything else on anyone? This is (I think) the first actual thought process we have gotten from you.

@killerleaf offered some insight to how they feel on VA (though more insight into other players would be cool too).

Indeed. I don't feel super confident in any of my reads of the vets but I can get a better read for noobs who played in WWinter. You seem like you're playing very much like how you played last game. So far.

I feel the same way about the vet players, so I'm trying to pick up on what I can from those in the noob game.

lynch brindy

Okay, I already went back and forth with you yesterday so I don't have much to add if you want to vote for me today too.

I have suspicions about others

Would you mind sharing about who, and why?