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Had gotten feels here and there from her posts. It was nothing super strong. Like I said, didn't feel particularly enthused about any vote.
What do you think of the 5 people jumping on that with ~15 min left in voting? I know you’re voting alley at the moment, but how are you reading the others?
 
Not loving the early morning fishing for PR-related flair. I like info dumping, but pushing people to do it feels off.
I’m not trying to get who’s what power role. I just want to try and figure out what is wolfy vs village.
She’s mentioned a post restrictor that she thinks is village and a tracker that she thinks is wolfy and I want to know what makes her think that. Cause I think she’s a wolf.
 
What do you think of the 5 people jumping on that with ~15 min left in voting? I know you’re voting alley at the moment, but how are you reading the others?
I think it's a little hard to parse out because some of it was likely an attempt to save sunny. But I haven't looked at it closely yet.
 
@samac can you explain why you think I'm a wolf, exactly? You're pushing it to the level of a frantic fever pitch right now and I still haven't seen a good explanation for why you even think I'm wolfy. Or like, any explanation at all, other than that I voted for you.

And why do you want my night results if you think I'm a wolf?

How do you get a squirrel to like you? Act like a nut.
 
Alley didn't strike me as wolfy yesterday and the vote for her yesterday looked like a good place for wolves to hide. Not super enthused by that vote.

Need to go back and read, but in the meantime,

Yeet bread

His contributions yesterday were majorly unsatisfactory.

What kind of car does an egg drive? A yolkswagen.
 
@samac can you explain why you think I'm a wolf, exactly? You're pushing it to the level of a frantic fever pitch right now and I still haven't seen a good explanation for why you even think I'm wolfy. Or like, any explanation at all, other than that I voted for you.

And why do you want my night results if you think I'm a wolf?

How do you get a squirrel to like you? Act like a nut.
I’ve laid out some reasons. You’re by far my top wolf read right now.
I hope others take a leap of faith with me.

and with that goooooood night/ good morning. See y’all on the other side of some sleep.
 
I’ve laid out some reasons. You’re by far my top wolf read right now.
I hope others take a leap of faith with me.

and with that goooooood night/ good morning. See y’all on the other side of some sleep.
Where are those reasons?

And did you miss the part where I said like 6 times yesterday I can prove and it will backfire on you if you keep your vote on me?

Why did the math book look so sad? Because of all of its problems...
 
Alley didn't strike me as wolfy yesterday and the vote for her yesterday looked like a good place for wolves to hide. Not super enthused by that vote.
So then why aren't you voting for AM?
 
Where are those reasons?

And did you miss the part where I said like 6 times yesterday I can prove and it will backfire on you if you keep your vote on me?

Why did the math book look so sad? Because of all of its problems...
I think all of that “imma big villager!” is you being full of crap.
 
So then why aren't you voting for AM?
I'm thinking about it; need to go read the interactions again.

I liked some of her Ms P comments last night, although I think that was more of a village Ms P move than a wolf one. You can see right afterwards where I acknowledged it looked a bit more like village AM.

Unrelated but I don't like how you, shorty, and Zenge echoed each other yesterday voting for sunshine. Sketchy in retrospect.

That car looks nice but the muffler seems exhausted
 
I'm thinking about it; need to go read the interactions again.

I liked some of her Ms P comments last night, although I think that was more of a village Ms P move than a wolf one. You can see right afterwards where I acknowledged it looked a bit more like village AM.

Unrelated but I don't like how you, shorty, and Zenge echoed each other yesterday voting for sunshine. Sketchy in retrospect.

That car looks nice but the muffler seems exhausted
I just don't get saying the alley vote was a place for wolves to hide when one person who was on it flipped village and you're not actually wolf-reading the other.

And the "echoing" was already pointed out and addressed yesterday. I can't speak for shorty/zenge (though shorty seems normal to me, haven't seen enough from zenge yet), but I already said I hadn't seen their posts when I made my comment. And sunshine herself admitted that the reasoning was the same as what she said in England, so the comment itself was valid.
 
I think all of that “imma big villager!” is you being full of crap.
Actually you know what, that's fine. Don't reply to my comment. On the off chance you're doing what I think you're doing, it's not what you think, so concéntrate en el partido, por favor.

Have you ever tried to catch a fog? I tried yesterday but I mist 🙁
 
I just don't get saying the alley vote was a place for wolves to hide when one person who was on it flipped village and you're not actually wolf-reading the other.

And the "echoing" was already pointed out and addressed yesterday. I can't speak for shorty/zenge (though shorty seems normal to me, haven't seen enough from zenge yet), but I already said I hadn't seen their posts when I made my comment. And sunshine herself admitted that the reasoning was the same as what she said in England, so the comment itself was valid.
It was only that it felt like a village counter wagon off of the village PR and the last second yeet -- especially because she's getting pushed today. Minimizes village info. I didn't even remember who was on it off the top of my head. That's why I said I need to go back and read.

Awfully touchy this morning about one point against you.

It takes guts to be an organ donor!
 
Alley didn't strike me as wolfy yesterday and the vote for her yesterday looked like a good place for wolves to hide. Not super enthused by that vote.
So then why aren't you voting for AM?
I'm thinking about it; need to go read the interactions again.

I liked some of her Ms P comments last night, although I think that was more of a village Ms P move than a wolf one. You can see right afterwards where I acknowledged it looked a bit more like village AM.

I'm not sure how I feel about the alley vote either, she's another person who is an easy misyeet, but given that there were only 2 people on her vote and one of them flipped village already, the bottom comment feels pretty hedgy relative to the top one.
 
I'm not sure how I feel about the alley vote either, she's another person who is an easy misyeet, but given that there were only 2 people on her vote and one of them flipped village already, the bottom comment feels pretty hedgy relative to the top one.
Oh I thought I was like 3 people

Nevermind then lol

What happens when a strawberry gets run over crossing the street? A traffic jam.
 
Actually you know what, that's fine. Don't reply to my comment. On the off chance you're doing what I think you're doing, it's not what you think, so concéntrate en el partido, por favor.

Have you ever tried to catch a fog? I tried yesterday but I mist 🙁
It’s exactly what you think, I think you’re a wolf.
If you go back I laid out my reasons, I think I made it pretty clear and repeatedly asking me isn’t going to get me to magically say something different.
 
It’s exactly what you think, I think you’re a wolf.
If you go back I laid out my reasons, I think I made it pretty clear and repeatedly asking me isn’t going to get me to magically say something different.
Samac, go get some rest before you accidentally hurt yourself. This is not a threat, this is advice. Please.

What's the best way to watch a fly fishing tournament? Live stream...
 
I actually don't really understand why you're wolf reading Pippy, samac, and I just searched your posts for mentions of her to see if that would make it clearer to me. As far as I can tell, you started out salt voting her for the England shenanigans, and then when she was reactive and retaliatory, you decided that was wolfy even though people who have played with her more said that's pretty NAI for her. And now you're annoyed with her because she won't give you the information you want on the thread.

I haven't played with her as anything other than 3p, but she hasn't pinged me with wolfy vibes so far.
 
It was only that it felt like a village counter wagon off of the village PR and the last second yeet -- especially because she's getting pushed today. Minimizes village info. I didn't even remember who was on it off the top of my head. That's why I said I need to go back and read.

Awfully touchy this morning about one point against you.

It takes guts to be an organ donor!
Not touchy - you know I respond to things as they come up.
 
I actually don't really understand why you're wolf reading Pippy, samac, and I just searched your posts for mentions of her to see if that would make it clearer to me. As far as I can tell, you started out salt voting her for the England shenanigans, and then when she was reactive and retaliatory, you decided that was wolfy even though people who have played with her more said that's pretty NAI for her. And now you're annoyed with her because she won't give you the information you want on the thread.

I haven't played with her as anything other than 3p, but she hasn't pinged me with wolfy vibes so far.
Let's just drop it. I don't think a wolf would be this loudly irrational, because they would know I'm a villager. I think she's probably village, she's just wrong.

What did the coffee report to the police? A mugging <-- the quality of these is going to start rapidly deteriorating as I run out of high quality stock, sorry in advance
 
Okay, finally caught up.
Current Reads:
MKG: I’m reading more wolfy. Her posts yesterday felt like a way of participating without really contributing. Don’t like that she left her vote on Shorty. Seems like an easy place for a wolf to hide.

Cray: Neutral. I’m still unsure, but even after wolfing with her I’m not great at reading her. I completely misread her for most of the speed game.

Shorty: Seems like village Shorty to me. No big ISOs yet but we’re only just now into day 2.

Bread: I have no idea, Neutral. I don’t think I’ve seen bread woof. I have seen him chronically low post and hide there, come on the thread, make some jokes, etc. He could be wolfing like that. It wouldn’t surprise me. But I’ve also seen him be that way as village. It could also be an easy misyeet, so I’ll be watching who pushes Bread just as closely as Bread himself, who I’d like to see come onto the thread more and engage in more wolf hunting.

April: Wolfy side of neutral. Her vote switch from Pippy to Cray was definitely interesting. I feel like I don’t have the strongest read on Cray, but picking up on one of Cray’s wolf tells so early on seemed odd. I don’t like from either her or Cray that their votes were singletons on each other. Like they both knew to stay the hell way from both the Vis and Sunny votes, and voting for each other was a good way to stay out of it.

Dubz: Neutral. She explained why she voted for Vis. It’s believable but idkif I believe it yet. I feel like I’m always paranoid Dubz is a wolf. But we saw Sunny and Genny jump on the Vis wagon (even though Genny jumped off) and they both flipped village so it wasn’t *just* wolves on the wagon. Firmly in the neutrals for now.

Alley: Wolfy lean to neutral. Don’t like the Vis vote obviously, but again, we’ve seen there were villagers in there too. I don’t feel like she’s posted a lot and I definitely want to see a lot more.

Anthony Lawpy: Genny saw how sketch Anthony jumping on the Vis wagon was and noped the **** out of there. I would have done the same. Since Lawpy subbed in it makes it more challenging, I can’t press Lawpy to explain why Anthony did what he did. I’m willing to give Lawpy a pass this cycle just to see what he does, but I’m watching Lawpy closely.

MsP: Wolfy. She was here posting on the thread during the day but didn’t really contribute anything and then came on and helped get Vis killed and acted like she was making this rushed decision when she’d clearly been here earlier and had time to form reads.

Samac: Wolfy. Again, the Vis vote bothered me here. Her explanation for it, “wanting to keep Sunny because Sunny was more valuable” while I guess, sure that’s technically correct, the way she did this and phrased it skeeved me out. Especially when Sunny ended up dead in the night cycle. It reads like “oh look I saved the important villager by killing a less important one! Oh the important one died too!? Golly gee that’s a bummer”. Her being sorry about killing Vis pinged me like the time she was sorry about misyeeting me as a wolf.

Pippy: Chaos. I’m not saying I think she’s got a chaos role. I’m saying she’s a ball of chaos and I never know what’s happening. I’ve only seen her be a serial killer in Goats and black goo in FTF’s game. I’m not sure I really see the difference in her play here, but I also get the impression she’s just always pretty chaotic. I’ve never seen her be wolf or village so I can’t say I know anything. I’ll be relying on reads from people who know Pippy’s play for insight here.

AM: Village read. Nothing so far stands out as wolfy or outside of AM’s typical village meta.
 
"Pippy seems like chaos; can't read her."

Most original read I have ever heard.

@Zenge142 who besides AM & shorty do you have as village? Anyone you're missing from that list, or do you have almost the whole game as wolfy side of neutral? Because that feels like you're very open to swinging any way the wind blows.

Why are elevator jokes so classic and good? They work on many levels
 
Alley didn't strike me as wolfy yesterday and the vote for her yesterday looked like a good place for wolves to hide. Not super enthused by that vote.

Need to go back and read, but in the meantime,

Yeet bread

His contributions yesterday were majorly unsatisfactory.

What kind of car does an egg drive? A yolkswagen.
What about every other post of alley's outside that vote?
 
I did that thing where I re-read the entire thread and collected > 100 posts of interest, and now I don't even feel like I have any key takeaways.

@alleycat03 meow?

@WildZoo why are you sheeping AM's vote this morning?

@Animal Midwife what did you think of Bread's joke non-vote on you yesterday?

@Lawpy why did your predecessor move off of my vote when I made threatening noises?

What’s an astronaut’s favorite part of a computer? The space bar!
 
What about every other post of alley's outside that vote?
I think her posts sound fine and in line with her village tone. Though she's defending me pretty aggressively so I guess it could be a pocket, but I don't really think so. I don't see why you think she's wolfy tbh.

Why did you drop your Zenge vote yesterday? All I saw in my re-read was him complaining about lack of activity that he could respond to early in the day (a lack of activity to which he was contributing), and then dropping a heckin sketch vote for sunshine. If you think he's still wolfy, why drop your vote?

Mountains aren't just funny. They're hill aaaareas
 
I think her posts sound fine and in line with her village tone. Though she's defending me pretty aggressively so I guess it could be a pocket, but I don't really think so. I don't see why you think she's wolfy tbh.
Not even the fact that the POE she had to be pressured for was all villagers? Or that her reasoning was inconsistent?
Why did you drop your Zenge vote yesterday? All I saw in my re-read was him complaining about lack of activity that he could respond to early in the day, and then dropping a heckin sketch vote for sunshine. If you think he's still wolfy, why drop your vote?

Mountains aren't just funny. They're hill aaaareas
Because I wanted a viable counter and it was clear no one was yeeting him D1 (you included) by that point.
 
Not even the fact that the POE she had to be pressured for was all villagers? Or that her reasoning was inconsistent?
Those are some of the things that make her seem village to me, actually. I thought her posts sounded genuine.
Because I wanted a viable counter and it was clear no one was yeeting him D1 (you included) by that point.
What? Where on earth did you try to get me/other people to vote for him? Viable counter to what?

Where's your content counter, btw? The last time you counted posts and didn't share that info, you were a wolf.

And that post I called you out on yesterday about activity level felt kinda like a rojo on re-read. Came outta the blue with no explanation or continuity of thought.

Whenever I try to eat healthy, a chocolate bar looks at me and snickers :/
 
"Pippy seems like chaos; can't read her."

Most original read I have ever heard.

@Zenge142 who besides AM & shorty do you have as village? Anyone you're missing from that list, or do you have almost the whole game as wolfy side of neutral? Because that feels like you're very open to swinging any way the wind blows.

Why are elevator jokes so classic and good? They work on many levels
Shorty and AM are my strongest village reads. I don’t think I’m missing anyone.

I put Dubz and Cray in plain neutral, but they’re more village side of neutral. There’s definitely very little from either one I’m looking at as “wolfy”, I just don’t trust either one of them too much this early on.

I’m not reading the whole game as wolfy side of neutral. The breakdown is this:
2 village Shorty and AM.
2 village side of neutral Dubz and Cray
3 Neutral/Don’t know You, Lawpy, Bread
2 Wolfy side of Neutral: April and Alley
3 Wolfy: MKG, Samac, MsP
 
Those are some of the things that make her seem village to me, actually. I thought her posts sounded genuine.
Have you ever played with wolf!alley?
What? Where on earth did you try to get me/other people to vote for him? Viable counter to what?
Maybe the whole day I was on him and didn't move until it looked like a v/v disaster?
Where's your content counter, btw? The last time you counted posts and didn't share that info, you were a wolf.
Wow, now you're lying again. Go get the last game I didn't share it. It's between me and the mod. If you want it, count it yourself.
And that post I called you out on yesterday about activity level felt kinda like a rojo on re-read. Came outta the blue with no explanation or continuity of thought.
What post?
 
@mkg323 What are your current reads? Are you going to stick with voting for Shorty today?
@samac Is Pippy your top wolf read? Who else is on your list?
@Ms Procrastinator Do you have any current thoughts on the game?

Edit: Formatting.
 
Maybe the whole day I was on him and didn't move until it looked like a v/v disaster?
This is sketchy af reasoning and right in line with your wolf voting meta.

You still didn't answer my question on why you totally dropped him as a vote today despite replying right up there^ that you think he's wolfy.

Where do young trees go to learn? Elementree school
 
This is sketchy af reasoning and right in line with your wolf voting meta.
Really? Then you're further proving you know nothing about me.
You still didn't answer my question on why you totally dropped him as a vote today despite replying right up there^ that you think he's wolfy.
Oh right, can you give me my quadruple vote so I can vote my POE much faster?
 
This is sketchy af reasoning and right in line with your wolf voting meta.
It wouldn’t be in line with her wolf meta if you’re reading Zenge as wolfy and think they’re w/w. I think it would cause wolf!AM physical pain to sit on a bus the entire day.

I don’t think Zenge is wolfing and I think AM’s read of him is off this game, but I think her parking a vote on him all day yesterday only really fits her meta if they’re w/v or v/v.
 
It wouldn’t be in line with her wolf meta if you’re reading Zenge as wolfy and think they’re w/w. I think it would cause wolf!AM physical pain to sit on a bus the entire day.

I don’t think Zenge is wolfing and I think AM’s read of him is off this game, but I think her parking a vote on him all day yesterday only really fits her meta if they’re w/v or v/v.
Yeah this is a fair point. I don't really have them as w/w... I just think AM has been less helpful/agreeable than normal and I didn't like Zenge's vote for sunshine yesterday after he spent so long lurking. It felt like he was trying to pocket you tbh.

But I agree with you that I don't think AM would sit on a bus hoping it would take off.

I also just wish she would not be so grumpy about sharing things like counting content posts if she's already bothering to do that anyways. It only hurts the village imo and it feels like greedy, isolationist play. There's an underlying implication that she's the only one doing any work, and that's just... not accurate.

I wouldn't buy anything with velcro. It's a total rip-off
 
@supershorty @Animal Midwife

What are your reads on Samac?
Neutral, maybe slight village lean. The fishing earlier today squicked me out a little, but I know samac loves to try to gamesolve based on mechanics. I’ve learned that her enthusiasm and emotional reactions to things are NAI, so I made a note of the reaction to Vis’ flip, but it didn’t give me a wolfy ping by itself (I can understand why it did for you since wolf!samac put on quite the performance after getting you misyeeted). Her tunneling on Pippy feels like village!samac to me too, tbh. I’ll be watching closely when she’s back online to see what she does.
 
What are you seeing that give you that impression?
It's a combination of how she reacted to being up for yeet yesterday and how she reacting towards Pippy today. Seems similar to England and the fantasy of mechanics discussion.
 
Okay, finally caught up.
Current Reads:
MKG: I’m reading more wolfy. Her posts yesterday felt like a way of participating without really contributing. Don’t like that she left her vote on Shorty. Seems like an easy place for a wolf to hide.

Cray: Neutral. I’m still unsure, but even after wolfing with her I’m not great at reading her. I completely misread her for most of the speed game.

Shorty: Seems like village Shorty to me. No big ISOs yet but we’re only just now into day 2.

Bread: I have no idea, Neutral. I don’t think I’ve seen bread woof. I have seen him chronically low post and hide there, come on the thread, make some jokes, etc. He could be wolfing like that. It wouldn’t surprise me. But I’ve also seen him be that way as village. It could also be an easy misyeet, so I’ll be watching who pushes Bread just as closely as Bread himself, who I’d like to see come onto the thread more and engage in more wolf hunting.

April: Wolfy side of neutral. Her vote switch from Pippy to Cray was definitely interesting. I feel like I don’t have the strongest read on Cray, but picking up on one of Cray’s wolf tells so early on seemed odd. I don’t like from either her or Cray that their votes were singletons on each other. Like they both knew to stay the hell way from both the Vis and Sunny votes, and voting for each other was a good way to stay out of it.

Dubz: Neutral. She explained why she voted for Vis. It’s believable but idkif I believe it yet. I feel like I’m always paranoid Dubz is a wolf. But we saw Sunny and Genny jump on the Vis wagon (even though Genny jumped off) and they both flipped village so it wasn’t *just* wolves on the wagon. Firmly in the neutrals for now.

Alley: Wolfy lean to neutral. Don’t like the Vis vote obviously, but again, we’ve seen there were villagers in there too. I don’t feel like she’s posted a lot and I definitely want to see a lot more.

Anthony Lawpy: Genny saw how sketch Anthony jumping on the Vis wagon was and noped the **** out of there. I would have done the same. Since Lawpy subbed in it makes it more challenging, I can’t press Lawpy to explain why Anthony did what he did. I’m willing to give Lawpy a pass this cycle just to see what he does, but I’m watching Lawpy closely.

MsP: Wolfy. She was here posting on the thread during the day but didn’t really contribute anything and then came on and helped get Vis killed and acted like she was making this rushed decision when she’d clearly been here earlier and had time to form reads.

Samac: Wolfy. Again, the Vis vote bothered me here. Her explanation for it, “wanting to keep Sunny because Sunny was more valuable” while I guess, sure that’s technically correct, the way she did this and phrased it skeeved me out. Especially when Sunny ended up dead in the night cycle. It reads like “oh look I saved the important villager by killing a less important one! Oh the important one died too!? Golly gee that’s a bummer”. Her being sorry about killing Vis pinged me like the time she was sorry about misyeeting me as a wolf.

Pippy: Chaos. I’m not saying I think she’s got a chaos role. I’m saying she’s a ball of chaos and I never know what’s happening. I’ve only seen her be a serial killer in Goats and black goo in FTF’s game. I’m not sure I really see the difference in her play here, but I also get the impression she’s just always pretty chaotic. I’ve never seen her be wolf or village so I can’t say I know anything. I’ll be relying on reads from people who know Pippy’s play for insight here.

AM: Village read. Nothing so far stands out as wolfy or outside of AM’s typical village meta.
This list is a knee slapper. “Participating without contributing”? Cmon now, I’m not gonna go iso myself but we both know that is BS. And I left my vote where it was, because as previously mentioned, I was still catching up at yeet close because had the time wrong.

@mkg323 What are your current reads? Are you going to stick with voting for Shorty today?
@samac Is Pippy your top wolf read? Who else is on your list?
@Ms Procrastinator Do you have any current thoughts on the game?

Edit: Formatting.
No I’m not voting for shorty today. Rereading yesterday, I’ve put her in neutrals for now. I don’t really want to write up a whole reads list on my phone since it’s about to die, but my current POE is Samac, Lawpy, Alley/AM, April, and Bread. The only reason you are not in it is because I actually like most of your reads list.
 
my current POE is Samac, Lawpy, Alley/AM, April, and Bread.
I’m trying to understand the slash between Alley and AM instead of a comma.

Are you saying you think it’s either Alley or AM is a wolf but definitely not both, or are you saying you think either Samac, Lawpy, and Alley are a pack, OR AM, April, and Bread are a pack?
 
Btw @alissa14 you are a geek for laughing at all these lol

Two goldfish are in a tank. One says to the other, "Do you know how to drive this thing?"
On a quick lunch break! I will be updating tally. I would LOVE to close night early tonight. And yes Pippy, I love dumb jokes. Anthony hates them with a passion and I can’t wait to tell him all of these!:heckyeah:
 
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